Manchester United Banter Archive April 06 2012

06 Apr 2012 23:22:19
I cannot directly comment on posts, I'm on my phone but this is my view on the best united side 'in my opinion'

Schemicael

Neville vidic stam evra

Scholes Keane

Ronaldo. Best

Nistlerooy cantona


Excuse the schemicael spelling
Bench:
Beckham
Rooney
Ferdinand
VDS
Charlton
Ole g.s

So that's my team.. Worthy of gracing any stadia, capable of beating any team would demolish barcelona, and a very strong bench. Its just a team full of positives. There is a lot of players not their whom possibly should be but that's my immediate starting XI and bench all them players in the prime omg I would actually pay a lot to see. Makes me smile everytime I think of the players who have graced this club reaffirms my faith in Manchester United that we will once again have a team with players like that and once again be the team that is to beat in every game they play.

Macca!

06 Apr 2012 20:52:24
Just out of interest who do you guys think is the better player out of Iniesta and Xavi?

Now I know they have different roles and play with slightly different styles but which would you rather have or which do you think is the better player?

Me, personally I prefer Iniesta but that's because he's the man who produces the goods when the backs against the wall and they need something, does it for Barcelona and does it for Spain. I'm not Xavi's biggest fan I think for a player who's been playing at the highest level to only get touted as one of the best when he's 28 shows, for me that he's a player at his peak and nothing special as such.

Albeit both are top draw players currently.

The Moon.

06 Apr 2012 19:17:27
Something for the liverpool fans to be proud of.

they are two places behind chelsea, something they haven't done in a long time. Since chelsea have usually finished in the top 2 and liverpool not in the top 4 since ages


TRUMORS

06 Apr 2012 18:42:20
Sam Jones, a Manchester City youth team player, has been censored by the club for tweeting pro-Manchester United messages during the Red Devils' defeat of Blackburn on Monday, including: "Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh United United United" and "Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what a goal!!!"

wth? {Ed002's Note - You need to remember that not every footballer supports Liverpool.}

06 Apr 2012 16:54:10
If you cift through the rumours some sort of strategy has to be applied. What sort of player are we in for and in what position? If we look at last year it is clear that we were still in the market for a good young center back as well as an attacking midfielder.

I would hazard a guess that we are still on the look out for a youngish center back. That is probably why we are looking at the likes of Inigo Martinez, Grant Hanley and Dede. We are also on the lookout for an attacking midfielder without a doubt, so many names to pick from Hazard to Rodriguez.

What else are we likely to be looking for? Well, i think SAF realises that we do need midfield reinforcement. I'm not saying that is the only reason why we brought Scholes back, but it is definatly one reason of many. So as it stands we could be looking at a young center back, an attacking midfielder and a central midfielder.

In an ideal world SAF will be looking at young talent for elsewhere on the pitch, at full back i think Clyne is the likely signing (even if we are not to get a replacement for Evra which we may not). Kovacic i'm sure will also be looked at, but i think Barkley is a better bet a few years down the line.

The last place we may look for someone is up top. At the end of the season we are going to be left with Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck, Berbatov is not going to be here and Owen is odds on to leave. Keane i'd say needs a loan before being ready also. So a young striker would be fine! Giudetti i think was a great shout the other day, no doubt he will leave City so hopefully we can get him like we got Veseli!

RedDevil19

06 Apr 2012 16:01:17
I really feel that Nani is beeing poorly used
. A player who's crossing ability is notouriously sh** should not be deployed as a winger in a team that relies a lot on wing play. I would really feel that nani is best used through the middle, His dribbling is really good and can create space with his quickfeet. If he is transformed into a second striker he would be much more useful and consistent than as a winger. He plays better through the right side of the midfield but lets be honest, he is nowhere near as good as valencia on the right. And considering the fact that nani has a good eye for goal and can shoot and pass with both feet i cant seem but think he is best played as an attacking midfielder. The lineup would be :

-----------DE gea--------
Rafael--evans--ferdinand--Fabio-
--------scholes--carrick-----
---Valencia---Nani---young--
-----------Rooney-------

i really feel rooney is much more dangerous up top on his own. He is a worldclass striker and a top class attacking midfielder. He misses too many through balls around the area and doesnt have the required dribling skills to become the best, Nani does. I feel we should give this a go because nani's talent is really awesome and it would be a shame to lose it. And the free flowing football we would be employing between nani young and rooney would be extremly effective, with valencia cutting more through the middle as ive been seeing for the last couple of months ( bar his injury ) we would have a worldcalss attaking play. And this formation would give us so many options: play rooney in the hole instead of nani to give game time to chicha, welbeck for rooney or nani or young. And in games where we need midfield stability we should play ando for nani and give the boy a chance to become the worldclass attacking midfielder everyone know he can be because IMO he is not suited to the holding midfielder role.
While a lot of people have been crying for the 433 i would say the 4231 which is not very different from the 4411 we re already using but would give us another form of free flowing football much like real madrid.
On another note i really think we should get james rodriguez if eden hazard proves to be hard to get. The guy is 20 and already has 12 goals ( maybe 14 im not sure ) and around 7 assists. He would not be houting to be our first choice left forward before a couple of years as he will be slowly replacing young. Im also against guetting cissokho although he is a great player but i say lets give fryers and fabio ( injury permitting ) a chance. Fryers is 19 and will be pushing for a place in the first 11 and blackett is not far behind. As for clyne i think we should get him cause we only got rafa as a natural right back and even though i think he is the new dani alves and will be world class in the near future, a talented cover is needed.
PS: i still beleive morrisson is gona be the replacement of wayne rooney and the one playing in the whole unless he doesnt improve his behaviour at westham. And with petrucci, cole and lingrad ( not talking about the under 17 ) pushing for a place im not sure he is needed.
Mick

06 Apr 2012 13:31:43
Its clear to see we need atleast a fullback, a CM and an attacker in the form of a Winger/AM/Striker.

I think we need a more defensive-minded left-back, as the majority of counter-attacks against us/goals/chances stem from the weakness of Evra and his un-willingness to track back. Aly Cissokho is the most recent to be linked with us, and i think he is a good little player, who can actually defend - although i do think his Agent is talking him up. I would be happy with him of Schmelzer of Dortmund, who are firstly both solid at the back and secondly like to push further up to join attacks.

Midfield wise i think we have lacked somebody who can break up attacks since Keane left. Nobody in our current centre midfield have enough aggression and decisiveness to put in a ball winning tackle. Keane used to strike fear into the opposition. IMO we need that ever so much right now, Martinez is the name everybody is calling for. I just cant see it personally, i think he will end up at Barcelona. My call would be Moussa Sissoko. He is very strong, can tackle and chase down players as he has a very good engine. Also he is very much like Keane in the sense that although he is a strong tackler he is quite good on the ball and can bomb forward with ease due to his strength. A little like Yaya over at Sh1tty does.

A lot has been said about our lack of creativity in the centre and coming off the wings. I personally think our creativity is pretty decent, but i would like to see somebody come in who has consistency. We have Tony V (Tony V for #7 BTW) only who is consistent enough to produce. Second to him i think is Young who unfortunately is sometimes too predictable for the PL. There is a lot of love for Nani, but i personally think we could sell and pick up a better option. I mentioned we lack players who scare the opposition stiff. I believe since Ronaldo left we havent had that in our attack either. Hazard would be a good option as he is versatile and very skillful but i think the price tag banded about is a little out of sync with what i would pay for the guy seen as he has not proven himself in a great league. I would like a left footed AM to come in. Ozil would top my list he can play CAM, RW and LW realistically.

I think a team of

_______________DDG_______________
Rafael_____Smalling_Vidic_____Cissokho
_________Cleverley_Sissoko__________
Tony V_________Ozil___________Young
______________Wazza______________

would be very effective.

Just my opinion, wouldnt mind Ozil and another winger though ;).

MUFC_DEVIL

06 Apr 2012 12:06:09
my ideal summer transfers (ins/out)

in:
martinez 25-30m
clyne free
sissoko 10m
hazard 30m.
total- 65-70m

out:
park 2m
macheda 4m
berbatov 8m
owen free?
kzuszack 1m
bebe 2m
de leat 2m
fletcher retire (hopefully not)
scholes retire
giggs retire (legend but just doesn't have the ability to play cm and is behind in the pecking order at LM.)
Total - 19m, plus save a lot on contracts.

so total spent: 46-51m

.....................
-Martinez: IMO is a must buy, he can play CDM,CM and CB and plays all three position brilliantly and next to vidic in defence i think he would be amazing but id rather him play in midfield because of his passing ability and strength.
-Hazard: this guy has no ends of talent and behind rooney he would be lethal, he can dribble, pass, shoot, and link up well.
-Clyne: one for the future, ill be honest i haven't seen much of him but if it's true what all you say about him and he does have a lot of potential and he is on a free then why not..
-Sissoko: this guy is big, strong, fast and is a good defender and attacker so if he is available for 15m i think we should get him.

so, the first team (next season):

_______de gea_______
rafa__evans_vidic_sissok
toni_martin_clevs_Lnani
_______hazard_______
_______rooney_______

this leaves us with a very strong second string:

_______lindegaard_______
clyne__small__ferdy__fabio
___ando_carrick_jones___
young____chico___welbeck

also: maybe swap smalling with evans for first team?
(ive left evra out of both teams and the transfer outs because i don't know if id sell him or not but if he does go then that would be about 5-10m off the transfers in..
i also left pogba out due to nobody knowing whether he will stay or not)

let me know what you think.
(place in banter please ed)
JK92

06 Apr 2012 11:19:20
Just to prove that their is no point to your lists, here is a team of players that non of you have mentioned who could go up against any United team you picked and give them a great game

V D S
R. Byrne
J. Carey
M. Buchan
P. McGrath
D. Edwards
N Whiteside
W. Morgan
D. Law
D. Violet
G. Hill.

The only point I am trying to prove is that there is no greatest United team as for every player like Ronaldo or Best you need grafters like Styles or Fletcher. Who mentions Bill Foulkes Munich surviver European Cup winner and one of the most capped player. Or Tony Dunne the most reliable left back to wear the shirt. Noel Cantwell captain of the 63 cup winning team. Lou Macari, Arthur Albiston Stevie Coppell. It is like these programmes on Channel 4 where people vote for the greatest record or band of all time and loads of young girls just vote for the latest boy band. Think about it we had Matt's first team of 48 who won the cup Then we have the Babes who were beating all before them and would have gone on to dominate Europe. The 68 European Champions containing the Holy Trinity. Docherty's Devils who rampaged all over every team they played with some of the most thrilling football ever seen. Atkinson's team of the mid Eighties who came so close and were the ultimate Scousebusters. Then We get to Fergie's teams. the double winning side of 94 who had it all power and pace but never allowed to play in Europe as a team. The Treble team nothing more to be said. All those players who have dominated the 90's and 00's

06 Apr 2012 10:46:11
Guys,

I have seen quite a few greatest united teams on here which are interesting, think you can start to see how old some of the regulars and other people are from the lists.

One thing has annoyed me, everyone has Peter Schmeichel as goalkeeper and not one person has spelt his name right. I know it's quite a difficult word to spell (not really) but if you think he was the greatest keeper at your favourite club surely you can at least spell his name correctly? It makes people look like they don't even know who he is and just putting his name because other people are.

It is so difficult to pick a team but I will pick one from my lifetime as I feel I have seen them enough to judge.

Schmeichel
Neville
Stam
Vidic
Irwin
Ronaldo
Robson
Scholes
Giggs
Cantona
Rooney

Subs:
Van der sar

06 Apr 2012 09:05:26
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05 Apr 2012 20:55:42
Okay so, I don't think I've ever seen this on here before. What would be United's best ever team? The best player for every position.

_______Smheichel

Neville_Vidic_Ferdinand_Evra

______Keane_Scholes

__Ronaldo_Charlton_Best

_________Rooney

Be good to see other's teams as I'm not one to ask about this.

Percy


I could never begin to justify my selection for a best ever XI, there are simply to many geniuses to choose from.

E.g. - in your team, no Cantona, but who would go?

TM

I would have Stam and vidic

Yeah, that's the point though, it's a tough question, Rooney, who's brilliant, who leads the team when the going gets tough. Or the mercurial enigma that is Cantona, I prefer Rooney because of his attitude and his ability to step up when he is needed most. It's like trying to choose between Ronaldo and Messi, or Pele and Maradona.

Percy

Very difficult to pick a first 11 but if i had to my choices would be:

-----------------schmeichel-----------------
neville-----stam----------vidic--------irwin
-------------------keane--------------------
ronaldo--charlton-------scholes-------best
-----------------van nisterooy--------------

Young people on here have not heard of the DUNCAN EDWARDS, 1958 Generation.

PLEASE

Ryan Giggs definitely needs to be out on the left, in his prime he was like messi!

Ozwald

No 1 said giggs yet :O

Really? No Giggs in your teams? Wow!
Schmeichel, Neville, vidic, Ferdinand, irwin,
Ronaldo, Scholes, keane, Giggs,
Rooney, cantona (Just PL era)

Every one is right, it is so difficult to pick an all time XI but i would go;

Schmeichel
Neville Bruce Vidic Irwin
Nobby
Beckham Giggs
Charlton Best
Cantona

Winston

Schmeichel
Neville - Stam - Vidic - Irwin
Best - Edwards - Keane - Giggs
Ronaldo - Law

Subs: Van der Saar, Ferdinand, Robson, Charlton, Rooney, Cantona, Van Nistelrooy


Mike B.

Schmeichel
Neville - Ferdinand - Vidic - Irwin
Beckham - Keane - Scholes
Ronaldo - Rooney - Giggs

Subs: Cantona, Stam, Tevez, Bruce, Pallister, V. Nistelroy, Charlton

No one considering Bryan robson? Though to pick a first 11 is near impossible particularly in midfield scholes keene robson charting etc

Thing is you could make three teams all with great merit

No mention of StIles, foulkes ,gregg, violet,ruud ,kanchelskis was awesome too, we are lucky to have untold numbers ofworthy

Goal: schmeical

defence: neville-vidic-roger byrne- evra

mid: ronaldo-scholes-becks-giggs

striker:rooney-cantona

My last 1 was a group with giggs cantona etc only pl era

Massimo taibi
bardsley-de laet-purnier- pat mcgibbon
jordi cryuff-djemba-kleberson-ralph milne
dong fangzhuo - bellion

I'd definitely have Denis irwin at left back instead of Patrice Evra I also think cantona , mcclair , robson , beckham , law , yorke, cole , solskjaer , kanchelskis are worth a shout.

I'll have a think and put my team in

Discountdave

M pretty sure tht u ve got no idea abt d team before 2000... u ve missed out stam n blanc who were considered to be d best in d world @ tht point of time

{Ed002's Note -

06 Apr 2012 03:26:06
PHIm9t Thanks-a-mundo for the article.Really looking forward to read more. Awesome.