Manchester United Banter Archive December 06 2019

 

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Ask The Ed

06 Dec 2019 20:45:14
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07 Dec 2019 12:17:07
Eriksen for £40m would be a super start, Mandzukic a very
Good short term striking option and one other would make this squad much stronger.

Ship out Matic and Pogba too.

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07 Dec 2019 12:48:22
Eric - eriksen looks like he has switched off and sulked because he wanted away in the summer so its a no for me :we've had too many of that type and need to get rid of 1 with the very same attitude in pogba. Manzukic again good short term but if we go that route I reckon Cavani would be better value atm with us also requiring dm/ cm/ am strengthening I would ship out matic look at leeds phillips who can also play cb and look at epl players such as mcginn/ maddison. pogba definately better he goes asap.

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07 Dec 2019 18:28:28
Cat argue with any of that cookyman - don’t know much about the lad from Leeds though and if he’d be any good. Ndidi would be the one for me.

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06 Dec 2019 14:53:25
What's everyones thoughts on a cut price deal for Christian Erikson in January?

EPL proven and will be a huge upgrade on Andreas for the no 10 role.

Set-piece specialist and has a good passing range.
At 27, he will be at his peak now.

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06 Dec 2019 15:30:05
stay clear, its obvious he has downed tools since the summer becuase he was not allowed to leave,

whats to say he wouldn't do the same here?


look at Ramsey he was leaving but still gave 100 in every game.


he might be a good player but i wouldn't touch him.

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06 Dec 2019 16:17:38
Its a tricky one. He is a proven EPL player approaching his peak. I wouldn't was he has downed tools because he wasn't allowed to leave. Another player had an affair with his wife, which has caused tension in the dressing room.

I have two issues with him, first he has rarely performed when up against the top sides. Which isn't ideal for us.
Second, he doesn't really want to join us, his heart is set on Spain. However, that might not be possible. It stinks of Di Maria, a player who wanted to move elsewhere, but couldn't get there so we were the fall back option.

We need to steer clear of players who don't want to be at the club and aren't going to give their all for the club, no matter how talented their are, or how much we might need a player in that position.

I'd rather wait until the summer and sign a player who wants to be at United.

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06 Dec 2019 16:48:50
I think we need a couple of ‘for now’ signings.

Erikson has PL experience and maybe a point to prove.
A big yes for me.

If we can build a spine of experience it will make it easier to bring in this youth generation.

I’m down for Manduzick too.

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06 Dec 2019 17:14:15
Erikson is a wonderful footballer. Would walk into our first 11 and is available. We won't get a better player in January.

Shappy, all involved in that rumour of an affair have denied it. Not very nice to using that against the lad. Unless of course you were hiding under the bed?

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06 Dec 2019 17:16:54
Allegedly 🙄.

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06 Dec 2019 17:19:43
I don’t think he wants to join us, and can’t see why he would when he’ll be a free agent in the summer.

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06 Dec 2019 17:24:16
how much of that story is true is anyone guess.

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06 Dec 2019 17:51:06
He rejected our offer in the summer, so why go fo him? He's a fantastic footballer, but his heart is set on Spain. Wait until the summer and go for Maddison, a United fan who will suit us. Also, Fernandes will also be a good addition and I'm sure we can get him in January if we tried. He's carried on with the good work at SL this year, he's only 24 and creates and scores plenty.

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06 Dec 2019 19:23:16
I agree we need a couple of now signings. He would knit the front 3 (who do look dangerous at times) together.
If he signs in Jan it would be because he wants to come as he will be free agent in the summer.
He is a very good player and ud live to see him sign he would get more from our front players. Add his set piece a ability and you get another box ticked. A big yes from me.

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06 Dec 2019 19:44:16
Mumbles, I think you misunderstand me. Firstly, the affair would be denied whether it happened or not. I've been told by someone who has links within football that it did happen. Regardless, I wasn't using that against Eriksen, I was using it in defence of him. People are suggesting he has downed tools because he didn't get his move, while I'm suggesting that off the field events outside of his control may well be affecting him.

As for your assessment "is a wonderful footballer. Would walk into our first 11 and is available. We won't get a better player in January". Couldn't that have been said about Alexis Sanchez?

Sanchez wanted to join City in the summer, it was blocked. Then he joined us in the January.

Eriksen wanted to join Real Madrid in the summer.

Di Maria wanted to join PSG, but we swooped in and priced them out of the market due to FFP rules. Then a year later we sold Di Maria at a loss to PSG.

Pogba wanted to join Real Madrid, then we swooped in and priced them out of a deal. Now he is pushing to leave and putting in half arsed performances.

I appreciate Eriksen would be our best out field player if we signed him. But at some point we have to appreciate that signing players who don't want to truly play for us just isn't working.

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06 Dec 2019 19:58:24
We've got one half-arsed footballer already in Pogba.

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06 Dec 2019 21:41:11
If it was true it wouldn't necessarily be denied. The thing is, the people involved said it wasn't true, but I'll trust your "contact" in the world of football over them.

Fact is, even on his worst day, he's a better footballer than Lingard or anyone that can play No.10, better than anything we can get and wouldn't break the bank. Ole needs reinforcements in January or he could well be out of a job come February.

Your fact about the comparisons to him and Sanchez are entirely valid. But it is a risk we should be taking to get in a player that will improve our squad.

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06 Dec 2019 22:02:33
Yes please.

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06 Dec 2019 09:47:08
I thought Greenwood was excellent against spurs. He was making his first premier league start of the season and his first since that dreaded Cardiff game last season.

Up against Alderweiald and Sanchez I thought he did well. He had some lovely touches to link play, was unlucky not to score and his movement was causing problems and opening space for lingard and others. He also pressed very well and caused them a few issues when they had the ball. It was a very mature performance from one so young, and I hope he starters against city.

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06 Dec 2019 10:18:22
Although i agree with most of the things there, i will try not to get carried away. His instincts in the box are really good, hope in 2 years time we'll see 15 goal a season striker in him.

A loan move for him would be wise next season?

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06 Dec 2019 10:55:42
Becks58,

I loan move will depend on how well we recruit next summer.
Also we need to loan to the right club, where he will develop. Perhaps a loan move to Germany would be good?

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06 Dec 2019 11:34:40
I think if ole is still here mason will be getting plenty of chances and likely won’t be loaned. He’s already got 4 goals for the first team this season, I expect him featuring more by the end of the season. Top talent.

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06 Dec 2019 11:47:45
Greenwood has been excellent when called on. I don't think he needs a loan. For me loans are for players who need to adjust to senior level football and need game time to do so, or in the rare cases where the position they play in has an abundance of options in the first team.

Neither applies to Greenwood. I think he will slowly be integrated this season, playing maybe 10 games from the start and maybe another 15 appearances off the bench. Then next season he will be ready to challenge for a first team spot for the whole season.

At the moment we have Rashford, Martial and James who will challenge him for a starting spot as one of the front three. We need 6 forwards to challenge for those positions. So even if we sign another striker and wide player that would only give us 5 in total. So there would still be a place for Greenwood.

I think it will be more important for one of Levitt or Garner to go on loan next season as I expect we will sign at least a couple of midfielders.

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06 Dec 2019 13:49:02
Agree with you Shappy, a loan move will stall his development. Give him his chance and he won't let us down. Team played very well for most if the game. An uplifting game, let's hope we can turn up against City as they're not as formidable as they were last season.

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06 Dec 2019 14:01:02
lets remember he's only 18.

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06 Dec 2019 14:07:50
Agree with Shappy here Greenwood doesn't need a loan, his natural instict to find the net is better than Martial and Rashford IMO, he had a very good game against spurs.

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06 Dec 2019 14:47:07
Bolger, he is only 18, and only recently turned 18. Yet, he has the ability to play in the EPL. A loan to the Championship wouldn't be the step up he needs.

Many top players have played regularly at 18. Rashford and Shaw in our own squad are examples of players who played forst team football at 17. Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi etc have all played regularly at at 18 in the first teams of top clubs.

He will need plenty of support, and have good people around him to keep him grounded. While the fans will have to be patient and allow him to have bad games without getting on his back.

He needs to start getting games in the first team, be that cup games and 10-15 minutes at the end of games. If he proves himself the best option then he should play.

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06 Dec 2019 15:32:35
we don't want to put to much on him tho shappy.

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06 Dec 2019 16:22:58
Bolger, I agree we shouldn't put the weight of the club on his shoulders. But football is a team game, him being one of 5 or 6 players we rotate regularly in our front three won't be putting too much on him. I'm not suggesting not signing another striker and wide player. I think we should sign a couple more forwards.

If we have options of say Rashford, James, Martial, Dembele, Bergwijn and Greenwood as options for three places up front he would be on the bench most weeks but still a part of the squad and there wouldn't up undue pressure on him to perform, while some good performances could get him starting some games. Then he would be there on merit.

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06 Dec 2019 00:33:16
What a difference a round of games make. Jumped 3 places to 6th after one of the worst starts to a season we've had in many a year.

Looking forward to the game at the weekend, very tough test against one of the best teams in europe. But this city team is more vulnerable than the team we played last year.

No doubt we will be put under a lot of pressure. But if we can get a couple of goals, which is entirely possible, maybe we can come away with something from the game.

Ole was on the brink. 4 points or more from these two games is a very good return. I would be very happy to see the rebuild process continue and play out. We have been better than results have shown. I expect a stronger season from here on in.

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06 Dec 2019 09:44:02
Few weeks ago we were getting relegated! January will be key for us, but let’s hope there’s no signings for the sake of it and we get players we need/ want.

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06 Dec 2019 12:59:44
Caolan,

Don’t say things like that, Ole is taking us down and everyone can see it 🙄.

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06 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 6th December 2019

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06 Dec 2019 07:44:06
Absolutely shocking that is Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - hard to believe they considered it ok to go to print!}

06 Dec 2019 12:42:17
I saw it yesterday and had to look twice. Appalling lack of judgment.

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{Ed001's Note - it is unreal, just shows the same stupidity that shone through in the 'it was a compliment' nonsense the Inter ultras said to Lukaku when he was racially abused.}

06 Dec 2019 13:32:35
Didn't the editor try and brush it off as a "celebration" of diversity, and that anyone who saw something wrong with it has "poison" in them.

Not only does it show a lack of judgement, but when highlighted instead of apologising for that lack of judgement, he has said that there is nothing wrong with what they printed and attacked anyone who thought it wasn't an acceptable thing to print.

Truly shocking.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate.}