Manchester United Banter Archive March 06 2014

06 Mar 2014 21:20:50
Hi guys,

Well after a very long 5 or so days I finally feel confident enough to post an update.

My Mrs went into labor last week, all was well and everything was ticking along nicely, so much so my Mrs decided to have the home birth she wanted.
At about 11am the midwife told me to get all the stuff ready, (sheets etc).
At 11:50am it got complicated and to put a long story short the ambulance was called and my Mrs (in quite some distress) was took off to hospital because the thoughts were my boy was 'being a git'.
Little did we know what lie ahead for the net 5 days.

I arrived at hospital in the car, as my Mrs wanted her mother to travel with her in the ambulance & its not like I can start disagreeing with a woman in labor so I agreed to meet them there. I let my dog out and rushed to the hospital about 10 mins behind. When I got to the hospital, I asked the front desk to take me to her and I was took back outside where at that point the ambulance with my Mrs in turned up and the nurse went running up to the ambulance and came back to me and told me how my Mrs had given birth on route and the baby had gone into distress and ended up (to put in in lamens terms) swallowed his own poo and totally blocking all his lungs and needed resuscitating and bringing back to life.

They rushed me and my Mrs into a room and sorted everything out that needed doing (u won't want me to go into details).
after about an hour they told us what had happened to him and took us to the intensive care unit where he was.
I arrived into a room with my boy with about 5 tubes in his mouth and nose and a machine working flat out pumping his lungs and shacking him to hell, along with sensors all over his head to monitor his brain.

That night the Doctor asked me if I wanted him baptized and pretty much told us there was little chance of him making the next 3 days (it was the worst form of this thing she had seen in her life she said).

I came home that night without a Mrs and a baby and didn't expect the latter to ever come home.

I prayed in the hospital chapel that night and when I got home I reached out to this site and asked for some positive thoughts and what I got words could never do justice.

I logged on once a day, normally just before sleep and could not believe the support my boy was getting from many people from many boards praying and hoping for my him and I promise I read every single post from every single person & I thank everyone from the bottom of my heart.

5 days on my boy is fighting strong and has improved so much the doctors are calling him the miracle baby and they are now telling us they expect a near full if not full recovery.
To give u an example how poorly he was, there was a couple with a baby born just 26 weeks into a 40 week pregnancy and I was told my boy was the sickest baby in the ward still.

Football brings people together for many reasons whether that be friendships, relationships, unity etc.
But I'm so glad about 10 years ago I typed into Google 'football rumors' and arrived here, albeit it was very different back then and began checking it daily.
Over them years it has changed so much and all the thanks should go to the edds for that, as well as the fine people that frequent this site from across the boards.

We bicker, whinge and wind each other up (I'm one of the worst, ain't that right Marcellus? :)) but I would just like to say to all the people on here that support many different football clubs. We are often all shown in a bad light and called some quite unsavory things from people who hate what football stands for, but 5 days ago I reached out to u all and with your help and the brilliant work of the doctors and nurses and the, Rosie-Addenbrookes, U helped save a boys life this last week and for that I'm forever to u all and always will be.

Today I saw my boy open his eyes for the first time and I can't wait to hold him, but none of that could of been even remotely possible with out everyone's help on here.

Love you all so much right now
THANK YOU SO MUCH

P.s we named him Jack with a middle name of Goerge (yes after the man himself).

{Ed004's Note - That's fantastic news Chris. Good luck in the coming weeks and that's from all Eds}

That's great news

That's top news CTR, you and your family are still in my thoughts. I'm glad it's good news ATM, I agree we all lose sight of the important things in life at times. I hope and wish you all the very best.

Fantastic news matę! i'm over the moon for you and your family great name too :)

Thats great to hear chris

I'm sure like all of us who frequent this site, I have been thinking about you, your baby and your wife many times a day, and hoping beyond hope to hear the news you have just posted. I am so relieved and delighted that Jack, after due consideration, has decided not to miss out on spending some time with a great father - someone who can teach him all the important things in life, like MUFC.

You must be exhausted, bewildered and dazed. My thoughts continue with you.

All the best

06 Mar 2014 23:18:24
Thanks for sharing a simply incredible story chris
It goes without saying myself and everybody else will spare a thought for the little'un and wish for all the best for it as well

That's brilliant news Chris. Great to hear. Similar experience 8 months ago myself and thrilled you seem to be getting the same outcome. Will still keep you and the family and little Jack in thoughts and prayers. Best wishes mate.

Chris,

That has made me very emotional, sounds like great news and obviously jack the redman is a little fighter. You have been in my thoughts over the past few days and I am so glad he is getting better.

The posts of support you received on here were amazing, put football into perspective for everyone I'm sure.

All the best mate to you and the mrs, hope she's ok and hope jack continues to fight like a true red.

CTR. that's incredible ans fantastic news. May God bless your little boy ans your whole family. Well done to the doctors and nurses who do so much. that's the best news we could've had.

06 Mar 2014 23:52:24
By far the best news i've ever read on this site. I'm so happy for you and your family. All the best mate.

Fantastic news. I am sure I am right in saying that's it's the news everyone on here has been waiting for the most. Made up for you mate.

Superb news that! Made my night! Best of luck to you and your family over the coming week!

Amazing news Chris so happy! This season has not been how anyone has envisaged it, it's had highs and lows, with this being the biggest high.

That is fantastic mate, I'm so pleased for you. For my second baby we had an incident with the poo as well although no where near extreme as yourself so really opened up my eyes on the dangers of it.

It's unbelievable the joys they can bring you and no matter how much they can cry and test your patience I'm always thankful of the most important things in my life. My wife and babies.

We never know what's around the corner so always thankful of what I've got.

Fantastic news Chris, chuffed to bits for u and you mrs.May this wee man go on to have a very safe and happy life.

{Ed007's Note - Just to say how pleased I am to read this Chris, brilliant news.}

Cracking news mate and fingers crossed for the full recovery.

And of course congratulations to you and mrs ctr!

Over the moon having read that mate. Congratulations to you and your family. And you can count on the continued positive thoughts for the best possible outcome. All the best.

Amazing news Chris! Really for you and your family! Also thanks for taking the time to update us, can't be easy with everything going on. Hope the Mrs is all good as well! Loving the middle name too! All the best mate

CTR,
As you have seen over the last couple of days it's not only the United fans that are with you at this time, it is ALL football fans. If we can have any influence at all on the situation (which I'm sure we can!) then all will be well fella!
Although I and the majority of the posters have never met you we wish you and your family the very best and I'm sure the little one will be with us all either in the stands or in front of the telly in the not too distant future!
No matter which team we support, Man Utd obviously being the best, we all support YOU!
Robski.

Fantastic news, congratulation to you and your family! God bless! Just puts into perspective what's important in life!

Yerv got a little fighter there Chris, I, like I'm sure many others, mentioned the little one in my prayers, brilliant news to hear he's getting stronger, and thanks for letting every one know, great news

Fantastic news Chris delighted it has worked out for you all. All the best going forward

Great news Chris, fingers crossed your little man makes a full recovery. Keep strong

Tony

Brilliant news Chris. Well done to you, your wife and family and our fantastic NHS. Hope Jack is home with you soon

This update made my day, Chris. Chuffed to bits for you, mate. Must have been a nightmare for you and your missus over the last few days, but hopefully the wee fella is over the worst of it, and you both can now start enjoying the whole 'new baby' experience.

Good luck, mate.

Puts everything else into perspective. Great News!

Great news bro.

Brilliant news CTR glad your little one is recovering well.

i work at Addenbrookes and in my previous role here used to have to do some auditing on the baby ICU unit. they are fantastic people on there (including ther big lady on reception even though shes a gooner!)

congrats again, I hope you get your boy home soon

Great news mate

Absolutely delighted for the little fella, your missus & yourself mate, great news. Stuff like this puts everything into perspective. Very best wishes for the future.

That's great mate. Good luck for the future.

I cannot begin to imagine how hard it was for you, and I don't know whether all of our thoughts and prayers made the slightest difference in the boy's recovery, bit I'm glad you felt that a bunch of people you've never met stood by you in this difficult time.

Congratulations for you, the Mrs, and everyone close to you. And thank you for the news update, it really picked us up.

Fantastic news Chris, i'm sure everyone here will keep praying for you little man to make a full recovery, football fans bicker and argue all the time but when it comes to something like your story, it always brings everyone together to show their support, all the best mate.

That is fantastic.

All the very best to you, the missus and the new BOY.

Made my day. brilliant news!
Cosh

Best news this season Chris, puts our moaning into perspective.

Great news Chris.

You've got a very special son ( not forgetting Mum!) to keep the Red flag flying!

Fantastic news and hoping all ok from now on. All the best to you and the family.

I never thought I would come on the United page and read something that would reduce me to tears.
Well, this just has!
I have prayed for you and you boy from the first time I read about him. And by the sounds of things all the positive thought's, not just from the United boys but from the footballing community in general seems to have, in some small way, helped to bring around such a great outcome.
I am sure the doctors who have fought so tirelessly have done an amazing job.
My thoughts and prayer's will continue to be with you CTR and your family. And I bet your looking forward to the future now things are on the up.
That first home game at OT will be a fantastic day with your son.
Congratulations and all the very best for the future to the 3 of you!
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

BUZZZZING!

I started getting worried that we hadn't heard any developments. Great news. How's the missus mate? I cannot imagine how hard it would be to give birth and then have to deal with this straight afterwards.

Great news bud, hope the little guy comes home soon.

Fantastic news mate. Everyday I have logged on hoping to see some positive news. Wish you all the very best. Take some screen shots and save them to show Jack when he's older that football unites people and that he had so many people rooting for him! Look after yourself mate.

Amazing news.

CTR

Excellent news man. Best of luck to your family!

The best post I have ever seen posted on this site and the one that has given me the maximum joy. Like others on here, this has moved me to tears, albeit happy ones! Congratulations mate. I can't begin to think how torturous the last 5 days might have been.

The baby is a fighter, Jack will come through with a full recovery, like SAF says "No doot aboot it". I am proud of being a part of this little family we have on the site, the support for the kid was amazing.

Finally, Rooney or Not, Moyes or Not, our playing style, our league position etc etc are just such tiny things in the grand scheme of things. LIFE is so much more important.

Love for the little one

Deeps.

Way to go Jack. Your Dad is a super dad.

Delighted to hear everything is fine. Take care.

Great news CTR.

Logged on a few days ago and saw the messages of support but I didn't see the OP so couldn't really comment.

That's an incredible ordeal for the Redman family and it's great to be able to join everyone in celebrating the good news.

If miricles like this can happen, maybe we'll also buy a decent midfielder

Brilliant news, I am so glad for you and your family! let's hope the little one is a future red :)

07 Mar 2014 13:45:08
That's wonderful news CTR!

Brilliant news CTR, glad the lad is scrapping it out and getting there!

That's top news Chris!

Wonderful news, Chris. Like so many others here, I had closed my eyes and asked God to save your little boy, and now we get to read your beautiful story. Wishing little Jack strength and good health. And what you wrote about holding him soon, that just puts a tear in our eyes!

Dear sir
Ngiak is very glad that it's turned out well
And ngiak shed a tear to hear that you saw your kid open his eyes
There is no greater feeling in the world for anyone alive to see their kid
You have been blessed and your life now is complete
ngiak is very happy for you
gan

Great news, all the best for you and your family

06 Mar 2014 09:04:33
Morning eds, what wingers do you suspect we could go for? Personally would love Sanchez or Reus but haven't been linked with them much. Names like Pedro, Gaitan etc pop up in the press. And you have said before that we may move for Konoplyanka?

Where does interest lie now in terms of wingers?

{Ed004's Note - I couldn't tell you. I reckon your best bets would be on Konoplyanka and Di Maria}

Er where can I watch Ukranian soccer on TV? lol.

Go to Ukraine.

06 Mar 2014 13:33:40
Moyes was in France last night to watch the France v Holland game where Pogba, Griezmann and Mangala all started. Also interestingly David Frio was complementary of Griezmann. I hope he is never the top of our list.

Fresh when you say never I hope you meant near lol.

Stupid auto correct lol. Yes I meant near. Sanchez, Reus or Griezmann would be my favoured 3 - and I think we are starting to pay a bit more attention to him. Hopefully David Frio gets Moyes ear.

Oh yeah still drooling from the performances of Vidal and Sanchez for Chile

06 Mar 2014 11:57:59
in certain papers Bayern have signed a midfielder from Frankfurt a 23 three year old on a four year deal hope this means they think kroos is off

They have signed Rode. He was always going to Bayern when his contract expires, not sure he's good enough though.

I would not be so sure. Javi martinez is apparently making a move into the center of the defense, and Rode would not be a frequent starter. It would have a minimal effect on Kroos' position, especially since ROde is an out and out DM.

I think the development of Can and Hojbjerg ( who is one of the biggest talents in Germany ) are more relevant to Kroos' position.

06 Mar 2014 04:10:38
I've just read down a touch and came across a post about how we can only play one or the other of Rooney and Rvp and the selling of one is necessary.

Then read its Rvp going?

Jesus wept guys!

I know he is many people's saviour, messiah, Demi god even but as a non Englishman I can see Rooney like many opposition fans can as a joke!

Made us out as a joke (twice), got the best deal in prem history off the back of a season where the best manager in the game wanted rid of him, has flirted with city, Chelsea, moyes's ring and ended up stinking of roses and having fans turn coats AGAIN and jump on the Rooney bandwagon of support.

Tell you what, when discussing potential signings do you want the guy desperate to join to win trophies or the one coming for the money?

Because that's what we have with Rooney and Rvp and far too many of you with your white and red face paint on can't see past your nose and realise that one of your own countrymen have taken this club for a bigger ride than ANYONE has in the past and came out with the fans calling for the head of the one man who's goals secured the title last season!

Honestly since the first episode he should have been gone and its only got worse since.

Although I'm not a clevers fan by any means I would gladly throw all my support behind him as a man playing for the shirt than that blindly following that tattie chops scouser to the detriment of our team!

Shocking!

06 Mar 2014 05:37:45
What the flaming heck are you on about? Wayne Rooney has shown respect to Manchester United, did you see his celebration when united scored to draw against a team that time, he's great and deserves 300 k a game

Muppets

I think there are a lot of people who agree with you Jono and would pick Rvp before Rooney all day long. The funny thing is, if moyes does get the boot then we may find the new manager come in and prefer Rvp with kags, mata and one other behind him leaving Rooney on the bench.

Anybody will be sacrificed to maintain Moyes position. Now rumours suggest Moyes is concerned with RVPs attitude and this is to give Moyes the high ground to get rid when chances are that RVP has seen him for what he is, a very ordinary coach.

Very good post jono would have too agree with you on shrek and would also fear moyes is going to fill the team with a select few overpaid superstars playing for there pockets and not our club then fill gaps with average players ie welbeck wiggie.
To top it all after making Rooney top paid prem player even though he wouldn't even be in top 5 of the best prem players at mo, moyes is going to make him captain then he becomes club ambassador when we finally get the money grabbing scosser of the pitch!!
Its wrong wrong

Oh the irony.

You talk about Rooney disrespecting the club etc & how people see past it. Yet fail to realise you annd others are doing the exact same with RvP, a guy who is nowhere near the level of Wayne Rooney in terms of what he has done for this club. RvP is clearly talking against the club in the Dutch camp, he criticised his teammates recently and had to apologise. RvP is clearly not happy and is therefore clearly not giving 100%. That is unacceptable. RvP is sulking, as has been known to do throughout his career. He is not the be all and end all.

On the other hand, When Rooney clearly wasn't happy at the start of the season, what did he do? He got motm against a team he supposedly wanted to sign for. He knuckled down, showed his commitment with his performances and earned the respect and love back of all the sensible fans who don't hold grudges and who respect him for everything he's given the club. The money he is on is not a valid point, it means nothing to us as fans, who cares.

I know which of those two attitudes I would rather have at the club long-term.

Agree with you there Jono, RVP came to United to win trophy's, If he wanted the money why not go to City, PSG or Chelsea.

Rooney was at one point my favourite player but seeing how he took the club for ransom I would rather he have gone and other world class players brought in to replace him.

He slows our play down and makes us more rigid which in todays game is a burden. When Moyes gave in to Rooney's demands my heart sank just a little more.

I forgot that RVP was playing for free.

SteveC

Rooney to get his contract he wanted had to keep his trap shut this time. He knew that without the fans support a second time there was no coming back. It's funny you mention national teams as I'm sure Rooney's convos with Gerrard for example were all 'man Utd is great I really want to stay and win trophies and treat the club with the most respect I can' but wait Gerrard could only answer saying that convo will stay private while smirking. He knew what he was up to same as Gerrard had previously with Chelsea. So I imagine now they are all together with England they are all having a laugh and joke about how he has went full circle from public enemy number one to messiah while signing a contract not warranted in the slightest.

So when you talk about respect you cannot use rooneys running around a pitch as an example when the man is a joke of a professional. He has not been without scandal, weight problems, juvenile behaviour, stroppy ness, petulance etc etc etc was he showing this club respect then?

And the money is a massive point! You probably ask why a world class signing would deserve asking for a massive contract well wtf has Rooney done this last year to deserve it? You think that's not ruffled many feathers in the camp? You think every player is looking at Rooney as a future leader? You think they all to a man think he deserves it? If you do your blind! The team will have been behind SAF stance to move him on without doubt so to have a surprise retirement and new man come in to bow down to massive financial demands when previously guys like welbeck, brown etc couldn't squeeze an extra 10k out of us wil have made a mockery of all SAF and hie regime stood for, of which allot of players followed without hesitation.

Noses will be out of place at what has happened and its not going to change. Rvp will not be the first. I'm glad Ddg didn't go to Spain squad as there will be the next story. Chicho, rafa and others supposedly voicing concerns yet one that's stayed mighty quiet during this is the man sitting on his massive pile of gold laughing his sizeable t*ts off at how he is secure for life no matter how bad the team does!

He is not a winner he is a mercenary that we have just secured for life!

Well done us!

Red Man, I hope you're not listening to rumours, incorporating them into a conspiracy theory to suit your argument, and presenting them as fact again! What have I told you about that?

I think you forgot to add on, 'in my opinion' at the end :) or maybe it wasn't an oversight.

If RVP goes, then so be it. I love the guy as a footballer, and would certainly have him in before Wayne, but if he's going to be disruptive, then I don't care who he is, he has to go. Although I think we're a long way from that. One forthright post-match interview, and a lot of rumours.

It's got nothing to do with whether or not he doesn't rate Moyes, and it really shouldn't matter if he likes the manager or not. Most importantly, he would be disrespecting the club and the fans.

But like I said, it's all rumours just now, so no point in getting our knickers in a twist.

Dear mr Jono
That's the most twisted and inaccurate and most negatively biased opinion of Rooney he has ever heard
Ngiak humbly totally disagrees with you
Rooney has been the most hardworking and the only deserving player of the jersey and badge this season
Gan

Gan

Each to their own mate. I would argue that the only player worth his salt this year is my previous nemesis ddg, hasn't really put a foot wrong other than Sunderland clanger. Rooney has shown more effort than last year but I think many are realistically forgetting how bad he actually was last year and before that. Remember that man that was in charge last year that was desperate to have him gone? I would say he would have had the full backing of the team had he stayed and sold Rooney. Nobody would be questioning it but he had the confident Utd ready to beat anyone on their day whereas moyes simply couldn't come in and move him on incase it all went t*ts up and that would be the main 'failing' he would be criticised for. So if as predicted a few leave this summer and stories leak of unrest and dissent amongst the players at the way Rooney is being treated then would you say the team is better for him staying?

I wouldn't now even before they say anything. If you go by what gcu said he found out in their company it seems a fair few very influential players are severely pi**ed off at it all and grudges don't bode we'll in any team never mind one struggling.

Steve

Like I said above mate, if Rodney's deal has put allot of players nose out of joint would you not describe that as disruptive? Was he disruptive the last time over his contract? Yet as you said the better player is annoyed and voicing his concerns and its ok to let him go? I don't get that mate?

@ Jono

Wow, you really need to relax. Your blatant hatred for a Manchester United player is baffling.

I can't stand him Steven tbh and if his contract has indeed created more unrest in the players I cannot fathom how it came about he was even given one. As I said its a joke.

{Ed004's Note - I agree}

Jono, my views on Rooney are well known on here, mate. I would have had him shipped out before now.

StevieK

I said "chances are" and you do know this is a banter site rather than my schoolbook. I actually thoroughly understand the principles of supporting the manager versus a disruptive player. However the circumstances need to be examined more thoroughly in this instance. If (note if) RVP is unsettled, so soon after arriving and performing so well last season then the club need to understand why he suddenly feels that way. SAF had power to make decisions like that but he had earned it and even then he got it wrong occasionally, Stam for example. It has to be put in context, he may not be the only one who is unsettled. As we know Vidic, his captain is leaving when the manager did not want him to, then there are the results and demeanour of the team. It is too simple just to get rid of a player in this instance. I believe you support the manager and if it was just one player disrupting then absolutely the player goes before the manager but I believe if it is true then the situation needs to be examined in light of the overall situation to find out whether there is a potential bigger underlying issue that needs to be resolved. We don't know what reality is but the club do need to know.

07 Mar 2014 13:53:58
Ya!
Without Wazza's contribution, we would have been around 20 points below top 4 and u would be here happy about the money we saved and smiling about how loyal our players are. Shut up man! PSG ain't got loyal players nor Chelsea or rubbishty . I don't give a rubbish about money or anything else if a player gives his best in pitch. Despite being discarded from his fav position he is giving his best.
May be U r right mate. We should sell one of our best player and give the money we saved to Glazer's or eat burger enough for the rest of our life

Aakroz!

p s sorry edd! I am not able to log in from my cell here.hope u post it