Manchester United Banter Archive June 07 2018
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07 Jun 2018 19:12:13
Right, that's it, time to start a petition against Casemiro for injuring Fred, disgrace!
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07 Jun 2018 22:59:41
I hope the injury doesn't go to his head šš.
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08 Jun 2018 06:56:56
Already has 2 votes in 12 hours. SSN will be reporting it soon.
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07 Jun 2018 22:10:16
Did fred get injured.
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07 Jun 2018 22:26:35
Took a knock on ankle in training sat out rest of session iced up. Nothing serious. Would not have made news a month ago.
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07 Jun 2018 22:39:55
We have to look out for our own, .
I'm looking forward to watch8ng him with Brazil.
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07 Jun 2018 23:30:25
Hope he gets some time. Not a regular starter.
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08 Jun 2018 07:35:32
I hope heās safely on the bench for the entire tournament, same as all united players, bloody internationals.
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07 Jun 2018 21:55:39
Theres a particular set of fans out there who criticise Utd for spending money yet have spent Ā£250m since January aloneš¤.
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07 Jun 2018 22:09:32
Ah but its all about the net spend because all their best players keep jumping ship.
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07 Jun 2018 22:16:20
Very true. But they have done some good business. If they add a keeper and another defender they will challenge. Best to focus on ourselves because with some good additions in the right areas we will also challenge.
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07 Jun 2018 22:20:37
We haven't been able to compete with the likes of United, City and Chelsea in terms of spending.
After years and years of selling our best players (Mascherano, Alonso, Torres, Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho) for ridiculously huge amounts, it seems like we have finally turned the corner and are able to spend big on talented and skilled players that fit the team (I'll stop short of calling them world class just yet) .
I'm optimistic but not deluded, City to win the league again with United and Liverpool fighting for 2nd.
YNWA.
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07 Jun 2018 22:25:27
Excellent business in fairness but hypocrisy is astounding!
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07 Jun 2018 22:26:24
Lol Mort, they can add the net spend trophy to their Carling Cup in the last 10 years.
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07 Jun 2018 22:35:16
Do they need Fekir? Probably not. Do they need 2-3 more centre miss? Most likely. Do they need 2 cbs, a rb and a gk? Yes. But keep signing attackers by all means.
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07 Jun 2018 22:52:36
Fair enough sibsama. Seems you have some decent owners who are building something decent. But Klopp has no more excuses as he has spent as much/ if not more than Jose has during his time with us. No more excuses for either manager next season. I think both teams will be challenging with city for the title.
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08 Jun 2018 09:29:43
1.3 billion spent in the premier league era. This season is make or break for klopp given the money spent so far since January. He has to win a cup and challenge.
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07 Jun 2018 18:20:45
No worries Thanks ed002 as always š.
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07 Jun 2018 20:46:34
Almost the exact moment Rashford scores a cracker for England, stories emerge that Jose is prioritising a new backup striker to Lukaku over a left back.
Could be total bull, but if any truth in this, there'll be even less chances for two of the best young striking prospects in the country next season.
And just as bad, it gets more likely that Young and Valencia will be our esteemed full backs again next season.
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07 Jun 2018 21:04:19
Amen brother. Rashford struggles under Jose but looks a completely different payer when playing for England. Bear in mind Jose has won everything and Southgate is a novice. Must be a Rashfordās attitude I guess.
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07 Jun 2018 21:21:15
Maybe because its international football.
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07 Jun 2018 21:36:39
Or maybe attacking players do better when they're given the chance to attack?
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07 Jun 2018 21:45:36
End of season hysteria. We will buy a new LB just give it time.
Also Rashford is looking good for England as he did at the start of the season but he is still young and will have his ups and downs.
I think Jose rates him and over Martial. We won't buy another striker other than a top line support striker in Bale or Griezman. RW the priority.
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07 Jun 2018 22:22:37
I still prefer him at left back to be honest #injosewetrust.
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07 Jun 2018 22:25:12
19 appearances for England 3 goals that's just worse than 1 goal for every 6 appearances with no registered assists. Of course he has just better than 1 goal every 4 whislt playing for united.
The fact he plays well albeit a little inconsistent for united is why he is in the england squad. i'm sure southgate would like to see more of his club stats in front of goal.
Stats can be misleasing but it is a decent indicator that he scores more goals and makes more goals per appearance for united than he does England.
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07 Jun 2018 22:46:17
What's this Jose hates rashford.
He's the player who's played the most since Jose took over.
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07 Jun 2018 23:06:48
That's the best I've seen him play all season .
Actually spent most the game in the opposition half .
But the lad should the potential he has if we was playing for a club outside the EPL people would want to buy him .
Because he is a United player some would rather sell him.
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07 Jun 2018 23:20:24
Park. Are you impressed i stayed quiet on the subject? Rashford looks a world beater under Southgate but looks short of ideas for United. Must be coincidence š.
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08 Jun 2018 00:56:51
AAA haha I am mate fair play š. Thought rashy was class tonight some of his touches were great to watch. Looked really good centrally with that freedom to express himself. Looks much better as a second striker with someone to play off. Credit where itās due to Southgate he has played some really exciting youngsters with Alexander Arnold and loftus cheek also impressing. I think you are right that it is no coincidence he has looked better tonight as joseās Tactics have stifled our creative players. However, sometimes context has to be taken into consideration. Letās see how he performs against one of the bigger boys.
Not taking anything away from him or Southgate though because itās been a long time since I have enjoyed an england game. I donāt see why we cannot just praise rashford without always have to come back and bash Jose. Can the two not be mutually exclusive? Or are we always going to bash the manager when one of our players puts a good performance in during the World Cup? Donāt really think itās necessary tbh. But anyway Iām impressed you kept quiet on the topic mate š.
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08 Jun 2018 05:12:21
Sorry but did i just read England play attacking football? And Southgate is an attacking manager getting the best out of Rashford as he scored 1 goal? Brilliant stuff.
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08 Jun 2018 07:23:19
To be fair to Southgate, heās gone about his job in a very structured and impressive manner and has a good young side playing well.
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08 Jun 2018 07:59:05
Thanks park. Joking apart, Rashford was excellent last night. He was given a free role behind vardy and he did very well.
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08 Jun 2018 08:41:20
Spot on AAA. Eric I agree regarding Southgate. He wasnāt the flashy name or the experienced manager that people were hoping for. But Iām starting to think that will work in his favour. England have gone down the experienced and successful route of Capello which ultimately failed. Again the old head of hodgson failed miserably. They have gone for a younger manager who by all accounts wants to build an identity and style of play for England to move forward. He also seems to be popular with his players and appearances to have good man management skills. Heās not the most experienced but I think he is doing a really good job. Perhaps gone are the days where the England job is given to an old head as their last job before they retire. Perhaps we should be giving it to young and up and coming managers with the hunger and desire, who are more in touch with modern methods? Think this could be a solution for the FA.
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07 Jun 2018 20:15:36
122 minutes in and Rashford looks like a superstar. Could all the Jose lovers explain why this might be?
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07 Jun 2018 20:27:05
12 minutes, obvs.
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07 Jun 2018 20:31:50
Rashford just scored a beauty and is looking quite lively and you want us to talk about Jose? Jeez people really got issues.
ION England are playing well. These types of games they usually struggle. Might surprise a few in Russia.
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07 Jun 2018 20:32:46
Jose out gareth southgate in?
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07 Jun 2018 20:36:59
Thatās because one manager would have said go and and enjoy yourself. Try things make things happen. If you make a mistake donāt worry make up for it later.
The other is Jose :)
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07 Jun 2018 20:38:41
because he only gets to play 90 mins for man united.
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07 Jun 2018 20:39:54
Hoddle summed it up .
" looks like he is enjoying it, doesn't have to run back and play almost as a fullback "
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07 Jun 2018 20:40:18
Exactly what we need.
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07 Jun 2018 20:43:00
No dsg because if he doesn't score after 12 mins against Belgium then it will be southgates fault obviously.
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07 Jun 2018 20:43:30
Looking very sharp and a great goal. Hope he has a great World Cup. I think england May surprise a few people this tournament. No expectation to go particularly far.
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07 Jun 2018 20:48:35
Ken, welcome back, sorry this doesnāt match your Jose fanboy agenda. For United Rashford has gone backwards, for England, he looks a different player. Go figure.
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07 Jun 2018 20:51:19
Lovely goal. I think it looks a very balanced squad full of top 6 players and a decent mix of good snr pros and youth. Hope they do well.
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07 Jun 2018 20:58:33
Heās playing like a player full of confidence. Unfortunately he is not doing so under Jose. Hopefully he can kick on next season. On another note, really like the look of loftus cheek he is linking up with rashford beautifully. Chelsea should really be integrating him into their starting line up this season.
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07 Jun 2018 21:18:38
Hasn't got a fancy name but I don't think Maguire ever does much wrong.
Always looks solid.
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07 Jun 2018 21:31:52
Let england play the big boys you will know what these players are made from.
Theres less expectation and pressure on england and the players in the national team then playing for their club.
Totally two diffeerent situations.
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07 Jun 2018 21:33:06
Not been away Ajh. i'm Looking forward to next season. How about you?
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07 Jun 2018 21:39:16
He can get caught out of position a bit jred but he is a brave cb good in the air but looks better at intl level compared to epl i think.
Suits this system well i think.
Not sure he looks as good in a 2.
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07 Jun 2018 21:51:09
Hasn't been much build up to the WC . looking forward to it.
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07 Jun 2018 22:09:20
Yeah me too. I've denmark down as mt best wild card but can't see past spain france or germany. South americans don't usually do well in europe but now nearly every player plays here so that may change. i'd like to see a couple of underdog teams getting a good run.
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07 Jun 2018 22:12:01
Always got to be about Jose. can't even give it a rest for an international game. Its getting pathetic now.
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07 Jun 2018 22:29:36
š bang on mort. Talking nonsense too really. Rash scores 1 in less than every 4 appearances for utd and 1 in every 6.1 for England. Must be the sun getting to people's heads ššš.
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07 Jun 2018 23:09:40
Should have your own page.
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07 Jun 2018 23:22:28
I'm staying quiet.
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07 Jun 2018 20:14:15
Take a bow Rashford
SCREAMER!
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07 Jun 2018 19:58:50
Getting away from the usual stuff how far do ya think England will get in world cup and who do you think will be best player.
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07 Jun 2018 20:36:23
I think England will have a pretty good run partly because people expect little from them but largely because they seem to be playing currently as a team with no fear and no egos. Good to see. I like how quickly they work to get back lost balls. Granted they are playing Costa Rica, not exactly world beaters, all due respect.
Harry Kane is going to be England's most important player, no doubt about that.
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07 Jun 2018 20:44:53
Good luck to southgate and the squad. I likw the way he runs things.
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07 Jun 2018 17:35:56
Seeing reports that Fred had just injured his right ankle in training with the Brazil team.
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07 Jun 2018 18:14:42
Didn't look good, hope that isn't his WC over.
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07 Jun 2018 15:08:49
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Former Liverpool Managers Part 5 - The Uneventful Years
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07 Jun 2018 12:50:11
Hey eds/ all,
Hope everybody is good š
Just wondering if ye have time does ed002 or any of the eds have a possible update on where united are at the minute with possible incomings and outgoings? is there any chance a 2nd cm could come in and martial could stay?
Thanks eds really appreciate the work all of ye guys do for the site š.
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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions about the timings of transfers.}
07 Jun 2018 15:12:46
Could you answer a question about martial ed002. Are the club going to be offering him a new contract or will he be leaving this summer?
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{Ed002's Note - I expect that they will offer him a contract but no guarantees.}
07 Jun 2018 20:15:01
Thanks Ed.
But this raises the question whether he is actually interested in a new deal
Thanks.
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07 Jun 2018 13:26:38
video of fred's free kick practice, let's hope that he can score a few for us.
goo.gl/htPv4d
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07 Jun 2018 13:24:30
{Ed's Note - Ed055 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool fans join in Tarkowski rumours debate
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07 Jun 2018 13:06:59
{Ed's Note - Ed055 has posted a new article entitled, Right-back, left-back? Or one for the future? Where does Dalot fit in according to fans?
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07 Jun 2018 13:01:14
{Ed's Note - Ed055 has posted a new article entitled, Do you know the difference between Release Clauses and Buy Out Clauses?
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07 Jun 2018 14:40:33
Good stuff Ed š.
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07 Jun 2018 12:27:33
I know itās been very hot but has the weather affected people? There are some very odd posts lately!
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07 Jun 2018 12:50:22
I'm already blaming the weather for my fishing woes and my poor darts form so might aswell stick any ridiculous posts I've done on that too.
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07 Jun 2018 14:32:08
Its not the weather AJH. It's all Jose's fault. Sack him and the posts will be back to normal.
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07 Jun 2018 15:13:19
What examples spring to mind ajh?
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07 Jun 2018 11:42:21
Should we sell Pogba and buy Dele Alli?
If Pogba is not keen to be our future captain and not put in more passion, do you all think we should sell Pogba to highest bidder and buy Dele?
What'd you guys think?
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07 Jun 2018 12:06:44
Iām ambivalent about Pogba but would touch Ali with a barge pole, Lingard outplayed him pretty much all season.
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07 Jun 2018 12:17:24
Yeah AJH I do agree. I do like Pogba and if he could just focus better and play like he did before thatāll be great. I do seriously wonder if Sanchez has dented his passion and confidence or maybe stifle him?
Iām just wondering whatās the real reason for Pogbaās problem. I really hope Jose can really motivate the team else he will be under plenty of š©.
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07 Jun 2018 12:29:25
Heās 22 AJH. When Lingard was the same age he was bit part player for Derby in the Championship, where he scored a grand total of 2 goals.
In Lingardās best season for us, and Aliās worst for Spurs, they scored the same amount, and Ali had far more assists.
Anyone who thinks Lingard is a better player than Ali has been on the silly sauce and funny cigarettes for the last three years.
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07 Jun 2018 13:56:20
Canāt stand alli. Think he is vastly overrated and has an attitude problem. Would never swap pogba for him in a million years. We need to stop thinking about getting rid of pogba and instead need to be building the team around him. It seems we are doing that with the signing of Fred to compliment his talents further forward.
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07 Jun 2018 14:43:20
I think Alli would be a revelation for us playing in the hole. Whilst he does have an attitude, it's one which infuriates opponents. We could do with a touch more 'nastyness' to our team. Pogba is overrated and has an attitude as well, but Pogba's attitude is not as useful in my opinion. I'd like both of them to click and link well.
Lingard is a totally different player and not in the same league. He appears for a minute or two each game, makes clever runs, but you wouldn't know he was playing. Alli was slightly less effective last season, but the media have blown it out of proportion. Alli will be a players talked about for many years to come, Lingard won't be in my opinion.
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07 Jun 2018 14:44:55
Alli before Pogba? No way, not a chance.
Alli ahead of Lingard? Absoluely.
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07 Jun 2018 17:29:24
Im not the biggest fan of Pogba but Dele will never be as good as how good Pogba could be.
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07 Jun 2018 07:27:31
I know it will never happen but it would be interesting to have a fans 11 at a world cup made up of players not selected by all the national teams. Fans could select players from any country to make one team.
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07 Jun 2018 08:59:36
I like the idea and in events like the Olympics you do have those wildcard entries for country's who haven't entered or been expelled like Russia in the winter Olympics.
I imagine the legal side of things would be a nightmare.
There's money to be made though a world 11 sponsored by Cadbury playing in purple etc
So unlikely but wouldn't say impossible when there's a chance of coin to be made.
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07 Jun 2018 06:59:47
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th June 2018
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