Manchester United Banter Archive March 07 2014

07 Mar 2014 23:29:12
This is an important thing that everyone should consider:

Manchester United are in need of players in many positions to replace the junk, and with the World Cup around the corner I believe that if any of the targets that we want are not tied up BEFORE the tournament then if those players have a good tournament then their price and interest would sky rocket.

With that in mind Barcelona have openly stated today that they are going to need another centre back when Puyol retires, much like us needing one. Now, Mangala is my first choice centre back to bring in but I can only see that if he has a good tournament (highly likely) then Barcelona will most likely head the list to get him, among many other clubs. Let's face it if other big European clubs come in for him our chances of getting him would diminish.

Also with Luke Shaw now making a senior England debut I get the feeling that after Cole's contract expires at the end of the season, Chelsea will go in for Shaw and most likely get him too.

What are everyone elses thoughts on the impact that the World Cup will have on MU getting their summer targets?

07 Mar 2014 20:57:06
I feel so blessed,
Again a massive thank u to every1.
EDDS, I would like to take the time to thank u all personally for letting all the well wishing posts go through I know they must of screwed up the page and taken the focus away from the football. There are many unsavory things in football but these sites are a credit to the game and the work u do we all take for granted, ure lot are all stars in my eyes.

CTR

{Ed007's Note - No worries Chris, we're just glad that we could help mate. God bless.}

CTR fantastic news that your little guy is on the road to recovery, I stalk the page so many times a day looking for rumours and banter, but this week I've been looking as much for an up date on your baby, when I was reading your post this morning I welled up, I don't know you personally but like all the other regulars I feel like I know everyone, so happy for you mate and hopefully you get to hold me shortly. GGMU

Hold u? Now i'm a little bit worried :-)

Thanks mate means a lot to me.

CTR
I read a lot on this site and post once in a while

So glad your little boy is recovering - my daughter is over coming troubles too - and is now the youngest and the bully in the family :-)

And I'm really glad to see such a strong community spirit on the site with football fans from different clubs

Rivalry is great but when push comes to shove we all stand together

Love the site and the people on it

Jacko

That a embarrassing CTR, hold him I meant to write but old chubby fingers have let me down again. Great news all the same and 3 points today to sweeten the week.

07 Mar 2014 19:41:38
So glad to hear the great news on CTR little one! Amazing news, and hope the full recovery is a quick and easy one :)

Just a few questions:

Who does everyone think will be the surprise package in the World Cup?
Who will be the best player of the World Cup?
Who will win it?
What united player will perform the best?
Who will be top goal scorer?

Mine will have to be:
1) lallana or Gotze
2) Robben
3) Brazil
4) Kagawa or Mata
5) Aguero

1) Luke Shaw
2) Neymar
3) Spain
4) Hernandez
5) Hernandez

1) Mirallas
2) Neymar
3) Brazil
4) RvP
5) Neymar

1. Chile
2. Messi
3. Argentina
4. Rooney
5. Messi

1) Griezmann
2) Ronaldo
3) Brazil
4) Mata
5) Cavani

Will Mata make the squad never mind the first 11

1. Hazzard or griezman
2. Messi
3. Brazil
4. RVP
5. Neymar

1) James Rodriguez
2) Neymar
3) Columbia
4) Kagawa
5) Aguero

{Ed004's Note - 1) Griezmann or hazard 2) Neymar 3) Chile 4) Kagawa/RVP 5) Costa/Benzema}

Gotze will not be the surprise package. he might still be young, but he is on his way ( arguably already is ) to become one of the best players on the planet.

The best player will most likely be playing for one of the favorite teams, my money is on Messi ( his talent is due a good world cup ).

The winners imo will be Germany. They are simply much better than everyone else ( bar maybe Spain ).

The united player most likely to perform well is kind of difficult. I'm going to stick my head out and say one of our fringe players, Valencia and Kagawa. Jones is in with a shout, but I think Rooney and Van Persie will flop ( Rooney because he's rubbish for the NT, Persie because his head might not be in the right place ).

I think the top goalscorer will be Costa if he is a starter, Neymar if not. You cannot discount Messi and Ronaldo though ( but I think Portugal will get knocked out pretty early ).

1. Bosnia
2. Messi
3. Argentina
4. Rooney
5. Costa (spain)

1. Adam Lallana
2. Neymar
3. Brazil
4. Shinji Kagawa
5. Lionel Messi

1) Uruguay & Ivory Coast
2) Suarez
3) Spain
4) Kagawa then Van Persie
5) Diego Costa or Suarez

1. Ireland
2. Ireland
3. Ireland
4. Ireland
5. Ireland

*cries*

1. France
2. Neuer
3. Germany
4. Hernandez
5. Suarez

1. Greizmann
2. Iniesta
3. Spain
4. Kagawa
5. Messi

07 Mar 2014 23:05:02
1. Griezmann
2. Neymar
3. Spain
4. Hernandez
5. Messi

In a dream world januzaj decides to play for england, gets player of the tournament england win the world cup and rooney is top scorer. one can dream.

Belgium
Hazard
Belgium
The wig
Benteke

Belgium
Hazard
Germany
Fellaini
Aguero

Hazard
Neymar
Brazil Or Germany
Hernandez
Neymar or Costa

07 Mar 2014 19:35:56
CTR glad to hear the update on little Jack, best wishes

Thanks GB62 mate

07 Mar 2014 15:15:00
CTR,

missed the great news last night. Only just read your update and just wanted to say how pleased I am at the news. Hopefully he will make that full recovery. Good luck to all of you.

Ure a gent betty, thanks

07 Mar 2014 14:06:50
Eds, some time ago now I posted a question on who likely summer transfer targets were to be. Reading a few of the recent posts it would seem that you guys have an awareness of who we shouldn't "hold our breath" for.
Could you offer some suggestions in terms of midfielders of who we could expect to possibly be signed?
Really appreciate any response.
KingGiggsy

{Ed002's Note - I can tell you when I know of interest - I cannot say who will sign.}

07 Mar 2014 09:42:28
It seems that Arsenal's season is starting to take a familiar turn. Oezil was booed off the other night by the Germany fans, he seems to be suffering. Wilshere out for six weeks, Sagna refusing to sign a new deal. 2.0 down in Europe and still have to go to Munich. A seriously difficult month's worth of fixtures ahead, BUT they are still doing better than us :)

Syd
R u still of the opinion that they aren't title contenders this year

Of course, City will win the league this season. Arsenal will be out of the running by mid-March like I said.

Arsenal are the best bet right now to fall out of the top 4 imo.

Jred,

I have been of that opinion since the beginning and I stick with it now, I think they will finish 4th, and may even drop to 5th. No team can win the league with 1 striker, especially if that striker is Giroud.

Sydney
So you don't think arsenal have been title contenders this season .
"Arsenal will be out the running by March" I think what you said was they weren't title contenders like city Chelsea and ourselves.
I think they have been title contenders unlike ourselves,
Will they win it? I'm not sure injuries to wilshere and Ramsey have come at a bad time and you need that bit of luck to win it but I think they have a chance.
Chelsea are favourites for me, thank God they never got a striker last summer as I think the league would be over by now

This was/is Arsenal's best chance of winning a title in years, but they always tail off towards the end if they have done well up until Christmas. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe that will not happen again this season. They struggle against the top teams and City are a much better side. City will finish well ahead of them this season and this month Arsenal should start to drop as I suspected. It's a big month for Arsenal, but if we are basing it on previous seasons, then they will probably go the same way. That's just my opinion of course.

Gds
You don't have to win the league to be a title contender.
I agree about the striker I'm surprised they never bought an other in Jan but it's not always that easy

Last year did arsenal not get more points than any other team between January and the end of the season
Arsenal may well drop of but I think it will have more to do with difficult fixture list and injuries that what has happened in previous seasons

Jred, I did not and still do not expect Arsenal to be there at the end of the season, so no I do not see them as genuine title contenders. Sure they were in a group of possible challengers including ourselves, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs at the start of the season, but I do not see them as genuine title contenders. City IMO will win the league.

Jred, I think Chelsea are doing better than expected due to Jose. City have a better squad and first XI. I agree that a top striker like Cavani or Falcao would improve Chelsea, but I still think City will have a better squad and first XI, but Jose maybe the extra man for them. Pellegrini is already showing signs of pressure for me. I think if Pellegrini was at Chelsea this season and Jose was at City, it wouldn't even be close now. Just my opinion.

City having Demichelis in there first team is a missive weak link, just like Chelsea's striker worries but hey Etoo scored a hat trick against us so do they really have striker worries considering that and the fact that they are top?

Sydney

I think you are wrong on Arsenal going forward (next year). They are over their financial challenges and will spend again this summer. They have a core of young very good players that they have I expect them to challenge for the PL next year.

I agree with Jred their injuries have been devastating with key players being out(Walcot, Wilshire, Ramsey), whilst chelsea have been the luckiest out of all the top teams with almost no injuries to any key players.

Cant believe wenger saying knowbody is to blame for jack wilshire fracturing his foot!
theres only one person to blame and that's jack wilshire, he went into a 50/50 tackle with a big strong centre half in agger and because he was scared of getting hurt he just dangled his foot like a big girl, if he went in strong the injury doesn't happen! god help some of these players of today if they played years ago, they would never be out the treatment room. I haven't looked at the run in arsenal have but I agree with some that they are the team to catch for 4th!

GCU, I'm really not that sure that Arsenal are capable of spending big bucks every year. Ozil may have been a one off to galvanise the supporters. The got one big big name but have relied largely on loan signings aside from that, and they seemed really reluctant to spend anything during January.

With them offering a contract extension to a 33 year old, injury prone, Rosicky, this doesn't look like a club ready to splash the cash during the summer. They have been very unlucky with injuries, but the truth is that their squad lacks the depth of City and Chelsea, and this gulf will only grow during the summer.

The reality is that clubs like us, Arsenal and Liverpool are likely to fall further behind the new big two during the coming years. Chelsea are looking to bring in top quality strikers, and City will most certainly bring in more quality. Everyone else is already playing catch up, and unless we, or anyone else, is willing to make a massive investment, we'll drop further behind.

Arsenal are a decent side, they were a decent side when they had Cesc, Nasri, Song & RvP too, but fell short all of the time. If they want to get over the hurdle so to speak, then they need to buy proven winners. Players that have won titles. Flamini left Arsenal, came back and now he is a winner. They need a few more winners in their side IMO.

I think they just need another striker.
Ozil will be much improved next season, they have a decent back 4 excellent midfield just a bit light up front .
30/40 mill spend they will be a top team IMO

Shahram, Arsenal are in good financial shape, but their debt hasn't changed, they still owe £250m and that will not be paid off until the year 2031. Arsenal will not spend big every season. They will not go from making profits to making losses. If Arsenal had the kind of funds you are talking about they would have bought Draxler. It took years of fans complaints to get them to buy a player like Oezil, this won't happen every season.

Danny

It is not about spending big bucks but more about spending which they have not done for some time till last summer.

Renewing a 33 year old is not he worst thing mate as we seem to lead the league in those sort of dealings:)

I just don't they are that far behind anyone watching them play and IMO are one striker and a couple of squad players away.

Sydney

I agree they will not spend like chelsea or city but their debt is very manageable given their income and structure. They will be able to spend and their team does not need massive spending to be contending next year.

OOPs

"I just don't believe"

07 Mar 2014 00:09:18
I must say I wasn't surprised to find out that the person who started the cleverley out petition for ingerland was an ABU from Blackpool. Why anybody thought one of our own fans started it I don't know when you think how the Neville's, Butt, Beckam, Scholes and Teddy after he signed for us were treated by ABU ingerland fans.

{Ed007's Note - He's a Sheffield Wednesday supporter from Blackpool so the sad wee scrote doesn't have much going for him. We won't be posting any names for the simple reason that I don't want to give him any more publicity, not that you tried to post it Pancho just to tell others.}

I've had a friend who is a SW fan, and out of all my other friends who support the likes of arsenal chelsea city etc, he's the one who hated United most. Ex friend now!
Every time we lost, the texts would fly. Sad really as sw are such a pathetic little club that has achieved very little in such a long time. Small minded persons who think they're football fans but in actual fact, they're just jealous persons.

No midfield: I think it's the whole Lancashire v Yorkshire nonsense. In Yorkshire they still think the war of the roses never ended. Spent many a hairy trip over there, also remember the horrible atmosphere when Cantona scored a great chip against SW. Small towns small minds etc

That's fair enough ed 7 it was just to point out he wasn't a red as some people thought for some reason. Always thought it would be some ABU ingerland fan as I'm sure the majority of people signing it are.

{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't like to think ANY Utd fan would want to be a part of that Pancho. If anyone on here signed it then you're a disgrace IMO.}