Manchester United Banter Archive August 08 2013

 

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08 Aug 2013 22:41:58
Ok, so Fabregas has decided to stay for another year. I'm still of the opinion that his agent tipped us the wink prior to the new manager coming in and courted us first. I'm pleased that Moyes has highlighted and acknowledged the midfield shortcomings and gone for the stellar signing but the shift in Management at Barca has obviously made him re-assess his position.

I actually think the press release after Fabregas's announcement was very classy by United.

In the end we moan about not getting the best players in but at least we've expressed an interest. I don't believe for a minute that Cesc or his agent did not speak to any United representatives and given the status quo he would have engineered a move. If we aim to bring one 'Worldy'' in each year but fail, then integrate some of the younger players along with them, then I'd like to think that fans would settle for this.

Whilst we all appreciate bring world class talent in, we should all recognise that the new regime has got a great squad of talent at their disposal. I really hope Anderson, Jones, Januzaj get their fair share of games

I think Rooney should be sold and give Kagawa the freedom he needs to fulfill his potential to supply the front line. obviously it's who we get as a replacement that's the key but wondered whether Moyes has some rabbit to pull out of the hat with his interest in the German league

I think there'll be a couple of signings in the near future. but nonetheless, if there aren't any signings I won't be giving up just yet.

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Very good post, glad I popped back on, think I have a love/hate relationship with this site at the minute. I agree with what you are saying though with regard to Rooney/Kagawa and the not giving up yet :-)

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Totally!
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08 Aug 2013 22:37:03
Thought the 8th August was supposed to be our big day for a signing or am I wrong? Then I suppose that there are not many available Wow Factor players for sale. Fellani is o. k but he isn't going to improve our team. A squad player at best. Here's hoping that will change.

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Fellaini will improve our team by miles! Have you seen our midfielders? other than Carrick we have no one above average, yes Fellaini isn't the best of the bunch but he will bring the steel to our poor midfield we have been crying out for years.

Pathetic.

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Joey Barton would improve our team by miles

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08 Aug 2013 22:25:21
People need to get behind David Moyes and stop blaming him for our lack of transfer activity, apart from RvP, the past few seasons have seen us left short on the big name signing we all want, unfortunately every footballer doesn't think like us fans. We would do anything to play for united, I would even play for nothing. Maybe we haven't signed players because they don't want to play for united. Most foreigners dream of playing for Barca or Madrid I. e Fabregas, CR7. The list goes on. Don't get me wrong I would love to have players like thematic our club but what if they don't want to, nothing we can do about it, except look for other targets or persuade them with money - which united traditionally frown upon. I think we will probably sign Fellaini and probably Baines too, I know it's quite a step down from the tiki taka style of thiago and fabregas, but get behind the players. Honestly when we signed evra did you think he would turn out to be the best left back in the world at one point, or when we signed vidic or even when we promoted Evans to starting cb he played unbelievably. My point is give them a chance.

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You're right. Non of the big names want to come here as we've developed a reputation for not paying mega money for players.
All the reason why we should have gone for klopp as manager. He can build teams for little outlay and would have fitted into the united way perfectly.
Nomidfield

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Klopp would not have been the answere. With the 'talent' he has at Dortmand, coming to United he would had to do a 'fire sale'.

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08 Aug 2013 22:17:25
supasub I hope you enjoyed camp Bestaville last friday. Did the proclaimers sing Sunshine on Leath {Ed007's Note - Kloot do you know that those two aren't brothers let alone twins? It's all one big act..}

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08 Aug 2013 22:11:50
Howdy Deeps hows things, just saw your reply but it's right down the bottom of the page so did a new post.

I'm well, just been floating in and out to avoid some of the doomsday comments but been scanning the posts most days. I feel that after a little break (fake injury like Rooney? lol) I will be back in better shape than ever!

I'm hoping for a couple of signings to at least appease some fans. Looking forward to the Charity Shield though!

p. s. Ed's really glad you're moving to signed in poster's only, it already seems to have done wonder's on the LFC site and that's saying something ;) {Ed007's Note - I've wanted to switch to that sort of system for years HB but I was always outvoted by the powers that be. It will definitely cut down on trolls and stupid anonymous one line posts. We know at this time of year some people will post anonymously because they are new here and don't know how strangers will be accepted (some forums are a very clique) but the only clique on here is all the regular posters and hopefully any newbies will see that, register and come back. We have always strived for a quality over quantity, better to have 50 meaningful posts than 250 posts of muck.
My own pet-hate is posts that start 'I think...' and then the post is not even tagged let alone off someone signed in, nobody cares about the opinion of someone who is anonymous. It only takes two minutes to register.}

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Good to hear from you mate. Post a little more on here, yours is a dying breed on this forum. I can't wait for this season to start. I hope we can keep Wayne and add a couple.

Forgot my old username, so registered afresh. Bond has clearly set the message - "Shape up or ship out". Beware trolls!

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08 Aug 2013 22:11:40
I'm not just saying this because we haven't signed anyone yet, which I believe we will sign a couple if quality players, the right players. But I believe that we can not loose Wayne rooney, he's a world class player, he brings goals and assist season throughout and he still is only 27, we can't loose that kind of talent knowing how good he is at his peak. Therefore we can not let him go to Chelsea because that is giving them 20+ goals a season and the trophy. Everyone may say he is causing bad atmosphere in the team but who knows what is going on, he might want to stay just how nani feels with a fresh start under moyes.

Overall I believe Wayne rooney has to be in red next season because he is world class at football, not causing speculation.

On the transfers, I believe and everyone has being saying this and I understand the frustration but we do need a solid midfielder, gundogen would be perfect that type of player, it isn't just him, there is many differant players around the WORLD that is like him, so we will see. One winger has to go and I believe that is Ashley young, I think he is like 28 and is not doing it for us, seeing nani back to his beat and zaha playing well I see great potential in our style of attacking. The way man united attack is by the wings! We came second in capturing most crosses last season and scored the most goals from crosses.

So overall on the transfer, I think we have a great ( premier league winning squad) however we do need a midfielder, just to up our class, maybe go further in the champions league!

So we will see on the date if September 2nd what Manchester United we will be looking at! In exited by the squad we have but will be evening happy to see a few players com in!

Thanks for reading

Trev the red

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08 Aug 2013 22:52:34
So where is the big signing on the 8th as everyone suggested. let's be honest we will get Fellani who is not a major signing and no better than we already have playing for us.
Looking at the reinforcements the other Teams have made we are going to struggle this year I'm telling you now inclusive if going out of champs league at group stage.
The only pull we used to have to this club was fergie and now that's gone I just can't see any big players wanting to come to this club.
Rant over
Jacko

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"The only pull"?

Champions of England? Wages of £120,000 plus per week (up to £250,000 per week)? Regular Champions League football? Huge crowds? High media profile? Long history of success?

Get a grip.

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Everyone suggested it did they? You mean the s*n suggested it.

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"The only pull we used to have to this club was Fergie".

Then, my friend, you have absolutely no concept or understanding of the history and romance of this club.

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Ok I guess we should just throw in the bloody towel then! Fabregas isn't Joining so we may aswell sell the club and move on?

We have missed out on plenty of class players and we have been perfectly fine!

Now get out of your little negative bubble and start thinking about the positives.

Pathetic.

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08 Aug 2013 21:51:41
So it really looks as if all hopes of signing Fabregas are gone. This follows Thiago, Strootman and the always unlikely Ronaldo. Many fans are entitled to wonder just what is going on with our transfer strategy. Most will be disappointed if the only arrivals are Fellaini and Baines, decent players domestically but certainly not of the quality to improve our chances in Europe. Whether Rooney leaves or not is really irrelevant, his form is shot, perhaps permanently. We'll be strong in the Premiership but it's difficult to see us playing the exciting football that most of us associate with the history of the club. Perhaps some really unexpected star players are about to be unveiled but I'm not holding my breath any longer.

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I hope DM knows what he is doing going for his own targets. I can understand him wanting to go for his own players, but p1ssing off on a two week holiday when you have just become the manager of Manchester United and then dropping Strootman & Co to go for your own targets is playing a dangerous game. Especially in such a small amount of time. It's dangerous as it's his debut season off the back of the SAF dynasty. I hope DM knows what he is doing. I am not blaming his two week break for the position we are in, but if you had just become the manager of Manchester United, would YOU bugger off on a two week break? I would be keen to get into that transfer market. Would folk be happy with Baines, Fellaini & Modric? With Nani and Rooney staying?

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - I'd have spent the two weeks walking around the stadium and training ground, getting to know where everything and everybody's office was. Have a look at all the paperwork and documentation that you are all of a sudden privy to and generally get myself comfortable and 110% prepared for such a massive job. That could all have been done while most of the other staff etc were on holiday.}

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Paulo
Malaga where robbed out of a Champions league Final are you sure we are not geared up to challenge at this level or are you falling into the close season fantasy world where our great club are not in the position to ram all this nonsense down someone's throat by getting the result at the week end and putting together a run that we are so accustomed to be patient don't let the media get to you where in safe hands.
Dylan

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08 Aug 2013 21:46:50
So Roma have paid 8M for Gervinho. Do we think that Nani is only worth the same as Gervinho? If he can fetch 8M then Nani has to be worth at least 15M

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I believe Nani will stay at the club and prove himself worthy, then sign a new contract.

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08 Aug 2013 21:24:35
Well the 8th. came, and almost went, and no big signing. Fabregas deal had me confused from the get go, at least now he has come out with something, still confused surely we must have had some encouragement.

The only reason we can't compete with cash for transfer is the Glazers using us as a cash cow, that won't change anytime soon so we have to suck it up.

I'm probably being way too optimistic but I do STILL expect a couple of good signings this year.

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08 Aug 2013 21:11:30
just read that willian is transfer listed, wouldn't mind moyes going for him.

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08 Aug 2013 21:10:27
What about signing Luis Muriel as Rooney's replacement
And then Fellaini, Cabaye and Baines then let only Rooney go

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Erik Lamela would be absolutely ideal for us

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08 Aug 2013 20:51:27
Not posted much lately as people have gone insane on here and it was driving me mad. Thought I was the only sane one but going by other posts today, thankfully there are a few of us left out there. We WILL get 2-3 signings and they WILL improve a PL winning team.

No we might not get Fabregas, but before him it was Thiago everyone was going mental over, before that Strootman. There will no doubt be a new name on the horizon so I will now go back into the shadows for a bit to dodge the nutters. My predictions are Fellaini in along with a creative midfielder. WHEN Rooney goes we will probably get a forward of some sort, probably a wider, younger player. That is it in my eyes, but it will improve us and we will be battling for top spot yet again next year.

Bye for now.

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A player wider than Rooney? I chuffin' hope not

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08 Aug 2013 20:51:12
Evening all. I hardly ever post on here anymore but I read what I can every few days, work permitting. Even though we're all a little anxious over the transfer proceedings of the last 5 weeks, I'v failed to see one player that has moved club that we were after. Thiago would have been great IMO but we were never in for him supposedly. The Cesc thing was a shot to nothing.

As Fergie said at the end of last season, we need to get behind the new manager. And before there has been a ball kicked in a competitive game, a lot of you are throwing in the towel. I can assure you there will be tougher times ahead than not signing a new player with over half of the window gone!

I had a feeling Moyes wouldn't sign someone straight away without seeing the squad in action first. They're all new faces to Moyes. New players to mould. Fellaini, Baines and a winger of your choice and keep Rooney and we'll keep our Trophy.

If we don't sign anybody decent come the end of deadline day. Then start worrying. Until then, cheer up, it could be worse. You could be RAINFISH still trying to flog 6000 green and gold scarfs to the tourists he hates!

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08 Aug 2013 20:48:52
Russian correspondent on talksh1t radio saying yesterday that Anzhi have made all their players available for transfer and would in his opinion accept 20-27 million Euro for Willian. Surely this has to become an option for us and something the club should explore?
SC

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08 Aug 2013 20:26:23
Haha, just visited the Everton banter page, and no joke, they actually believe there is a fellaini for Rooney swap deal in the works.
Is there something in the water over on merseyside?
I don't even know where to start with this, it's so ridiculous!

Norts

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08 Aug 2013 20:26:02
Varela playing in the ressies tonight. It's not televised, but should be able to find out how well he did.

Sydney!

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08 Aug 2013 20:11:02
Is the site really that negative?
I haven't seen any posts saying we are going to get relegated.
We have lost fergy which is massive, there are issues with 1 of our star players which is a concern and with a good portion of the transfer window gone we have still to make a significant move in the transfer window.

That's not being negative that's just where we are at the moment.

Before the transfer window opened there was post after post about signing this superstar or that superstar about 100 mill transfer spends.
I just think people's expectations have been to high.

There is still 25 days to go and I fully expect us to sign 2 first team players maybe not the ronaldo or bales of this world but 2 players that will improve the first team.

Jred

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Jred

I think people are taking this site way too seriously. There is difference in opinion and some feel a little strongly about whatever is happening. At the end of the day its all opinion and difference in opinion creates banter. Isen't what this site is meant to be? I don't see a lot of posts saying United are doomed, most of them are just angry at the way things have gone.

I am disappointed shall I say, but certainly not getting my balls in an uproar. Honestly I have seen worse on this site. At the end of the day, its all opinion and perspective. Its funny when people are indeed extremely biased and then when there is a difference in opinion, they dismiss whatever is going on as sh!t/ I will keep away from the site. Guess, each one to its own. But honestly, there are very few on here who are doomsday mechants. I am ready to live with it.

Deeps.

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Jred

Problem is mate we need to replace Evra, buy two top quality midfielders and deal with Rooney in whatever way is deemed best for us and seen as we have done none of these in 38 days we are leaving everything very late to sort in a oner.

IMO 2 first teamers still is not enough even if Rooney stays simply as we do not know how he will react to all this.

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I agree but I think we will only get 2 pal.
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I agree you need people to have a different opinion to make the site interesting.
I honestly don't think it's been that negative I just think some people where expecting 100 mill spend or ronaldo type singing.
there has been some good and bad banter over the last year but if you don't like a post just move on.
I just think a few might be a bit upset because so far it hasn't worked out like they expected
jred

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Come on Jred mate, if you can't feel the negativity spewing out of 90% of the posts on here lately, then you're living in a bubble.

It's almost like they're deliberately trying to whip each other up into higher and higher levels of hysteria.

There's no banter anymore, just inane comments like, 'there's so and so gone to such and such a team - why were we not linked to him?

I sometimes wonder how Utd have ever managed to survive and prosper all these years, without taking into account the views of all the football managers and scouts on here.

At least the trolls from other clubs can be excused, but when you see our own lot acting like a bunch of spoilt little princesses, stamping their feet and getting their knickers in a twist because Moyes won't go after THEIR targets, then it just becomes embarrassing.

I'm sure some of them honestly sent in their CV's from Football Manager when Fergie left, and are quite astounded as to how their applications weren't successful.

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Stevie

Its squeaky bum time. Do you expect everyone on here to be calm and collected. Its just an unavoidable phase. Happens every year at this time, happened last year as well. Community Shield and bang, the banter will start flowing in. May be this is what Jred meant. He has seen worse on this site, so have i.

Deeps.

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Deeps, everybody just needs to light a fat one and chill the feck out, mate.

Just seems like some people on here don't have an awful lot else going on in their lives, if this is how skittish they get over a flippin' transfer window.

Utd will still be here at the end of it.

ps. I started on the site this time last year, and I can't honestly remember it being as bad as this

pps. I'm not condoning drug use. Obviously.

pps. I started on the site this time last year, and I can't honestly remember it being as bad as this

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08 Aug 2013 19:49:53
hate to say it but this transfer window so far has been quite embarassing for us.
while we won the league easily, we have got to remember that city and chelsea imploded and we were also poor in europe, they have now got good managers in, have stabilised and several very good players have signed where as we are still the same and our "star" player rooney wants to go.
I have always thought that the money wasnt there and being linked to fabregas, bale, ronaldo etc were smokescreens and have said so several times on this website only to be shot down by other posters.
I have no real hope in moyes as our manager and think that neither baines or fellaini are good enough for us, It has nothing to do with the fact that he hasn't won a trophy, its more to do with the fact that he never even won a game at liverpool, utd, chelsea or arsenal in 11yrs!.
however I will still support the manager, the team and any of the players he brings in, as hard as that may be this year.
I think both moyes and woodward have got it all wrong with the media, and as I have said its embarassing that we havnt been able to attract top players. left with the likes of cleverly, wellbeck, young etc we are in real trouble.

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Thanks for your constructive contribution. Hang on, I meant to say thanks for your negative, whinging glass half empty contribution. If you honestly think Baines and Fellaini won't improve us then you have been watching a different team to me.

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I am entitled to my opinion as are you, I think last year the team over-preformed with some average players. do I think fellaini and baines are an improvement on evra and cleverly/anderson, yes, I agree with you they are, but when I think about going up against the top PL teams and the top european teams then I stand by my comment that they are not good enough and will be found wanting.
I think the general consensus around our fans is that there will be a hard season ahead, but when u hear that woodward is leaving a tour for urgent transfer buisness and 4 weeks later we still havnt signed anybody, when u hear our manager publically talking about a player whose transfer was unlikely, then I think we can expect some players coming in, and again I stand by my comment that its embarassing.
Surely we should have had some players signed, and bedding in during pre-season, and then if they want a marquee signing late on then fair enough, sign him. Instead we will be starting charity shield and possibly game against Swansea with same team as last year which in my opinion needs to be freshened up and improved.

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Depressed Red - You don't think Fellaini is good enough against top EPL opposition?

Well, we were top EPL opposition for him last season, and he tore us a new one.

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Our midfield is/was not top class last year, and he battered us in 1 game. anyone can play well once. imo he wouldn't get into any top european teams midfield so why should we settle.

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08 Aug 2013 19:48:30
Just a thought but how about this one guys

Swap Rooney for suarez

Suarez hates the scousers as much as we do FACT
Rooney hates Liverpool but coleen being in her home town would have a beneficial effect on his marriage so once a blue now a red would be ok FACT
Neither player would have to move house. FACT
Suarez gets European football. FACT
They get a forward who would be their main man
We get a forward that would add a bit of bite to our forward line. FACT
Rooney would get time to spend time with his kids on European nights Fact
No money involved just a straight swap Fact
Chelsea would be pissed off Fact
Arsenal would be pissed off Fact
Maybe Liverpool would be pissed off Fact
City would be pissed off they always are anyway Fact
We could put posters outside all the maccy deees in Manchester showing surez biting into a burger with a welcome to manchester
I think we could maybe live with it
Could be the coup off the summer

Just a thought

I washed david peggs car

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The Manchester United way and ethic is ruined FACT.

As much as he is talented I would rather us sign no ody then him as he is a very poor professional.

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Not to mention the new dressing room dynamics it would bring

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*sigh*

We a happy to lose Rooney as he appears to think himself more important than the club / team. Why on Earth would we want to swap him for another self obsessed idjit, particularly, one who has embarrassed his club and abused one of our players? Fact

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It's 'eejit', AJH.

If you English are going to take our insults, then at least spell them right :)

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Lol Stevie' I bow to your superior knowledge. I think I was trying to retain as may of the original letters as I could.

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08 Aug 2013 19:45:25
The window is not closed so let us not panic yet.

Saying that there are some strange things happening. A CEO racing back from Australia for urgent transfer business from a tour it could be argued he shouldn't have been on, for then nothing to happen. Our new manager confirming interest in a player who seemed unattainable and confirmed an offer for the player, very unusual. That was always likely to result in a difficult situation if it didn't then come off and actually embarrassing Moyes. The surprise today was not Fabregas's comments, which it had to be said were not as definitive as expected, but the fact United issued a response indicating respect for what he said. To be honest I don't think I have ever heard of a potential transfer being handled that way. Inexperience, incompetence or planned?

We have been left exposed with Woodward new to his role and Moyes notably inexperienced in his. I have to ask how the club allowed both SAF and Gill to retire at the same time and to lose such experience in one go, then to compound the situation by appointing such an inexperienced manager? If SAF retirement was as planned as they said surely this would not be the ideal scenario? A new CEO with a point to prove to show his worth but also one stepping into the new world of player contracts

The cynic in me wonders why we stopped bidding for Cesc at £30m or why we bid for him at all and why in the way we did?

The window has time to run but it does appear that we are blundering along. Outside Fellaini if we approach a top quality CM, are Woodwards first words, well you are second choice behind Cesc? We can't deny it because we confirmed the offer. You can't help but think we never had any intention of anyone other than Fellaini but the actions have been an elaborate effort to show we were trying but.

We shall see what happens before 2 Sept but so far the efforts have not been impressive and repeated on the pitch should bring Woodward and the Glazers quickly to reality because they certainly have not delivered the smooth transition we were led to believe would happen. Time for that to change and quickly

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Red Man, you do not know if we stopped bidding at £30m plus add-ons. Things went quiet for a couple weeks so we don't know what has happened in those two weeks.

I think we must go for Gundagon now. He has a release clause, does anyone know what it is?

Sydney!

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The conspiracy theorist in me says the cesc transfer isn't over yet. Have both parties discussed keeping the deal quiet with cesc saying he's happy at barca and utd saying we respect what he says? A coincidence this happens just after a failed bid for Luiz? If it becomes public utd have had say a 40 million bid accepted chelsea will up the price for luiz knowing barca have the money from the cesc deal. Chelsea would want the most out of barca so they get Rooney? Just a theory and I'm not saying there is any substance to it but maybe just maybe things aren't as black and white as what they seem.

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Red Man

Good post mate, I agree the are some strange goings on right now. Tbh, I think the transfer problems date back to Kenyon leaving, it seemed Chelsea secured a number of our targets and since then we have seemed less than sure footed. I have no idea why we pursued Fabregas so vigorously if we had had no encouragement and so many good players have moved recently when we appeared uninterested in them, even though they would have improved us. It's all very odd.

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Sydney

I have read Gundogens release clause was £25m and that was on the Arsenal page.

I am interested in your thoughts on Kagawa's contribution to the build up to the new season? Add that to Dortmunds comments and tell me how you read that?

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Red Man, I think Kagawa wants to stay 'IF' Rooney is sold. If Rooney stays then I think Kagawa may want to leave if not this summer, then next. He wants a regular spot in the hole. I think Dortmund would be happy to take him back, but I do not think Gundagon is someone they want to lose. However Kagawa plus cash may get them thinking. I think all depends on Kagawa really. Then again, what Kags does may depend on Rooney? It's a bit of a mess mate I think. Add this to there being a new manager and it's a bit up in the air if you ask me.

Sydney!

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Guys do you never think that fabregas's agent led us on, to show barca that fabregas is more value than the contract he already has, maybe they called a bluff on barca, so barca would give him an improved contract!so barca know he is a wanted man, Manchester United can offer fabregas more money, can you match this?and barca say yes we can!so win win for fabregas and his aagent while utd are lead to believe it
might happen!

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08 Aug 2013 19:42:35
I think the resentment on here aimed at Moyes over lack of signings should be aimed at Edward Woodward as he is the one who is negotiating these deals. His history is at JP Morgan Bank and helped organise the re-financing of the Glazers dept. One of the boys then!

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I think any resentment should be saved until the window shuts and then see where we are in terms of signings
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08 Aug 2013 19:41:06
Im actually quite looking forward to the season ahead.
In DDG, Rafa, vidic and RVP we have the best in the league. We also have genuine young talent that needs to be introduced more such as Jones, Zaha, Powell and Januzaj.
We will address the midfield, with whom appears highly debate able but I think Fellaini would clearly enhance us.
All of the players will be so hungry to dispel the 'myth' that without SAF they are nothing.
Moyes will introduce the high tempo pressing game we have been requesting
Great clubs wanting sustained success develop and keep there own talent and this is what the club must, and I do think they are actually attempting to do.
Evolution not revolution

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I tend to agree. If we sign Fellaini and Baines we will be significantly stronger than last year but sadly, for some, these names are not 'big' enough. Let's get a couple in to strengthen. Let's give our youth a run and let's ship out the bad apples.

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08 Aug 2013 19:28:13
dont understand why people are not wanting fellaini.

He's one of 2, most needed players imo.

obvously just getting him wouldn't solve the problem but if we could get a player like fabregas along with fellaini then our midfield would be sorted!


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Because he isn't comparable with any of our midfielders from 1985-2008 (forgettign Djemba Djemba, Kleberson and Miller) in terms of ability or personality in my own opinion. I think he is a decent player, better touch than people give him credit for. BUT I don't even see him improvin gour first eleven significantly personally. He is a perfect signign for a team liek Everton (and not just talkin gaerially) but for Utd, for me, he is either a desperation signing or he is a signign that is a move down in quality. This window is important fopr Moyes I think in showing where he is wanting to go, probably hence the Fabrega interest. If however it end with us signign Fellaini, I don't see that as a good move forward for the next few seasons. Incidentally I dotn even think we are in for him anyway making all the talk irrelavant
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08 Aug 2013 19:28:59
My last post came across like a moyes hater, but that's not the case, moyes was always the number 1 choice for me to replace the great fergie, but the transfer system is getting everyone anxious and fed up. But I guess we have to be patient, I would be over the moon with fellani, he is a battler, let's hope we hear something before the weekend is out because we all no how hard our start is

Marm

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08 Aug 2013 20:08:06
Does anyone else find Fabregas's press conference a bit staged? He didn't look comfortable, nor did he sound that convincing. All that stuff about not deceiving anyone, or doing anything wrong. what was all that about?

I personally think he was told by the club to talk to the press. He basically said as much.

I'll admit, when I first heard that he stated that he was happy and staying put, I thought that was it; but after the out of character statement from us - and seeing the press conference - I don't think we have heard the last of this.

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I think moyes will do a splendid job but its think for us and the club to do what fergie said and support the manager. The club should act on the dithering of Madrid and puta bid in for bale. They should also offer Rooney and money to Madrid to get Ronaldo. You may say I'm dreaming but money talks guys and if we put £80m on the table for bale spurs will have to take us seriously. Rooney for me has gone stale, but him and 40m would have to be considered. Come on reds back the manager!

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08 Aug 2013 19:13:54
Guys can we please stop moaning about moyes and woodward because let's not forget last year we won the league by a country mile and whilst man city and chelsea have strengthened, in my opinion they are only now at the level we were at last year and are currently at. So if we do sign Baines ( one of the most consistent left backs in the PL and a lot better defensively than evra) and Fellani ( a midfield enforcer who is tall, can score with his head and is good with the ball at his feet aswell as one of the most consistent midfielders in the PL) then we will win the league again. let's not forget fergie signed some awful players in his time and went for consistent players that could be moulded to the united way. So as TRUE united fans let's get behind him and cheer our club to glory!

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But let's not forget, last season we had fergie, not moyes.

Also if rooney leaves, we've lost 15 goals and assists

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We lost Beckham who wil supply RVNs goals!
We lost RVN but managed to move on its in our DNA.
Can't wait for season to start so that all you doubters and moaners realise how good a squad we have
Dylan

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08 Aug 2013 19:13:52
Instead of waiting for a known negative outcome about fabregas transfer woodward should have utilized the time in dealing with complex ownership of eric lamela and we could have signed him by this time. It should have given woodward a great experience as well. if we sign fabregas by the end of month I will come back and eat my words.
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08 Aug 2013 18:53:10
The worst thing we could do is sell Rooney. This transfer window has bean shambles! And embarrassing, where Manchester United yet we can't attract anyone to play at our great club! Moyes coming out and saying there is unlimited funds and that targets where moving on nicely! Ed Woodward rushing back for what??? Saying where in for best players. Offering 9 million for baines? Just pay the asking price! City and Chelsea have found value in the market. Yet where all talk yet again! Wish the club could be honest. It's quite clear there is no money! Our rival fans must be having a good laugh at us. ( yes I no where champions) (yes I no we signed v. persie) but the fact where messing our best player about is crazy. Fellani is what we need and I would expect us to bid 6 million for him any day

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Marm no disrespect but buying players is not like going down the shops to buy a loaf of bread. There is no asking price as you say (unless they have the infamous release clause) and when clubs enquire they get told a price but its expected that both haggle and meet somewhere in the middle (apart from some chairmen like levy for example who expect full amount). City, Chelsea, psg and Monaco just don't put much effort into the haggling

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08 Aug 2013 18:41:41
Well it seems to be the in thing atm, but to am giving the site a break for abit. The self pity and negativity is quite shocking to be honest.

I always try and keep a positive outlook on things and look for the best in a situation. But it seems now that many posters have become detached from reality and all sense. To the point where I get called bias for having a more positive outlook then what seems acceptable.

The negativity seems to be turning us all against each other and i'm choosing to have no further part of it. I don't want to fall out with anyone, I just want to come on here and have a healthy disscussion with fellow fans. But the doom and gloom around the place seems to be stopping that from happening atm.

So i'm having a week or two away from things, maybe it'll help me gain a new perspective.

Well have fun guys and i'll see you on the flip side. Oh and enjoy the good news that should break either on the weekendbor early next week.

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Shappy whilst your off check out the new updated version of inverting the pyramid.

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I think there is a happy medium.
But each to there own I try and take it all with a pinch of salt but let's be honest it's not easy at times.
cs at the weekend then the league starts it will be nice to start talking football again
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You will be sorely missed.

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Hey shappy,

I'm joining you on that, I can't stand the constant negative BS I've seen lately.

I really feel for the eds.

See you on the other side mate!

The Moon.

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I hope this time there are really going to be positive news. We were promised many times before about positive news and nothing happened.

Nicolas_United

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That's a shame shappy, I enjoy reading your insight, I agree though the negativity is unreal, people seem to forget only a few months ago we were celebrating winning the league.
Jase {Ed029's Note - Having spoken to the other Eds they are going to make an effort to keep the site free of nonsense and too much whining, but would prefer posters to register with the site.}

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People take this site way too seriously.

JK92

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2nd post to date,

1st regarding ed's boycott, which I understood and agreed with wholly.

2nd post this regards Shappy and other top posters being driven from the site.

I read regularly the posts (daily) but lately I cringe at some of them.

I am sure there is a mix of our own Manchester United fans, and a sizeable chunk of opposing fans writing this negative garbage, the conspiracy theorists, the hatred, the attacks on our club, manager and team have gone too far a times and this needs to stop.

I am therefore pleased the ed's are going to do something about it, compulsory registration and sign in or no posts accepted!

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08 Aug 2013 18:40:11
Extremely disappointed been led to believe there would be world class players joining. Moyes, Woodward must feel guilty when they get pay slip especially Woodward getting payed for doing **** all. Why did he fly home from oz fergie New all along there would be little or no money available Moyes needs to come out and clear a few things up or come September he will create a fans backlash and that will be the last thing he needs

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Yet another no name post made up of nonsense with no foundation. Go away, you know nothing, and you add nothing to this site other than to bring it down. If you have something constructive to say, or an opinion to air then go ahead, but your post is typical of so much negativity on here lately. {Ed007's Note - Over the coming days we will be phasing out any anonymous posts AJH which will hopefully encourage more people to register on the site. Hopefully then we can get a bit of the community spirit back to the site where posters get to know each other AND who they are talking/debating with.}

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08 Aug 2013 18:36:46
what a depressing transfer window. we have got by last season with a pretty average midfield. we won't this season. Oh for the days of Keane, Scholes, Giggs in his prime and Beckham
We are in serious need of 2 quality midfielders. but who. there is still plenty of quality out there. Woodward and Moyes need to realise that what we have just is not good enough.
Surely they cannot keep pulling the wool over our eyes. we need the impetus of new signings, it gets everyone up for the season. but feel very flat at the moment. Everyone thinks we are automatic for top 4. unless we add quality I am not so confident!

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Imagine a midfield of Keane Schoels Beckham and Giggs in their prime would still be the best midfield in the world at the moment

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08 Aug 2013 18:00:28
Moyesy needs to wake up and realize where he is now, this is not Everton we want our transfer business done promptly. Also does any United fan care how this Rooney saga will affect England's world cup qualifications?

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08 Aug 2013 18:48:18
Who cares? We'd just be an embarrassment anyway and end up losing on penalties to Cameroon or the like.

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As the first reply stated, I couldn't give a monkeys about England - Internationals for English people are horrendously boring.

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08 Aug 2013 17:57:12
I was thinkning today about our lack of 1st team signings and wonderd if it compares to when S. A. F threw all the kids into the team, with the Fledglings, did we sign anyone big that season?.
Is Moyes (and S. A. F in choosing Moyes) thinking we can do it again with Zaha, Powell, Lingard, Januzaj, Keane etc?.

Im still in the camp that thinks Moyes can't attract big players to the club, but it's food for thought.

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08 Aug 2013 18:51:37
How many players choose to go to a club based on the manager?

Can we offer champions league football? Yes

Can we offer competitive wages? Yes just look at what Chunk is on.

Are we competitive in our domestic league? Well 5 titles out of the last 7 would suggest so, and runners up twice.

Can we offer the chance to play with world class players? Yes. van Persie, Carrick, Vidic are all regarded as world class players.

So do we really think that players are turning us down because of the manager? Piffle.

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We didn't make any major signings but we did have one Eric Cantona return from a 9 month suspension. If dithering Dave can come up with someone of equivalent ability then I'll be a very happy man!

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08 Aug 2013 21:16:52
carrick? ha

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08 Aug 2013 17:45:07
well it looks like to me that at least 5-6 midfielder we have made bids for or inquired about have all snubbed us ie obviously fabregas, modric we bid 35m for and was rejected, thiago going to bayern. marco verratti, marchisio and vidal have all been inquired about as well. so its not looking to good for us fellaini looks like moyes only decent option atm {Ed029's Note - You have been well and truly misled about the players the club as enquired about.}

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08 Aug 2013 17:34:41
I'm not sure I remember a public conversation between two clubs and a until recently silent player quite like this. (Cesc. )

So many words, yet so little direct meaningful communication. Even now, despite not being too bothered whether he joins or not I'm still not convinced this is over.

There's no doubting that other clubs that are more aggressive in the market would not take any of Cesc's comments to mean he's not available.

A bid of £40-£45million and he'll be playing against Swansea. That value is inflated above his value because of the urgency of United's need.

Quite frankly I'd be delighted if the tedium was relieved by Cesc saying "I do not want to join Manchester United", because to my knowledge he hasn't.

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08 Aug 2013 17:30:27
Returned to the page after a week break. I have now decided to take another break, maybe a month this time.

The negativity on this page is unbelievable and is no longer enjoyable to visit, hope everyone enjoys their summer and see you all when the transfer window has shut.

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Jake,

Don't just judge it on today, there has been some decent debates, just whenever there is bad news it's worth staying off for a day or so until it calms down, just like when we lose a match and people come on saying we might get relegated etc.

Don't want all the regulars disappearing, chris the red man has really gone for a bit!

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I've been floating in and out of the site for the same reason although I agree with GDS there were a few good debates over the last few days, intermittently between the tidal wave of negativity.

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GDS

I agree with you on this one. There are a lot of good debates that happen. I have always been an admirer of your positivity whilst being a little pessimistic about things myself. That does not mean I am going to stop watching United come 2nd September, if we don't sign anyone. The support lasts through thick and thin. This should not even be a point of argument for any true United fan.

The only thing that I wanted your view on is about how we have conducted our business this season. Was all the Fabregas comments needed? It could have been done behind close doors. The statements that we have released looks a bit amateurish to be honest.

My point here is, I have serious reservations about the strategy that Woodward seems to be following. For me if we don't end up signing someone, he is the one accountable. David Moyes IMO cannot be held responsible for this. I will question his way of going about certain things for sure.

It is obvious for a lot of United fans to be anxious/insecure with both Fergie and Gill going at the same time. I won't call it stupid. A lot of United fans have a right to be concerned about something they so dearly love. I don't endorse doomsday views and season ticket holders chucking theirs in the bin attitude. But people can be concerned. There are some things that have changed at the club.

Deeps.

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I think I will be joining you, incredible how desperate some of the posts are on here at the moment LOL

Get over it we missed on a target

Shahram

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I'm feeling the same, still coming on and reading though, can't wait till the window shuts.

GDS - why has the "2" been added-been meaning to ask!

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Dont give in boys. think of it as a dressing room. the place needs the experienced heads. I don't post a lot but its the reason i'm on here everyday is to read your opinions. whether I agree or not its these posts that I enjoy. most of the no name s**** I read but let it pass me by. worry for some people. just hope they handle real life dramas a bit better.
Keep going boys. won't be the same. they have already caused too much trouble on here.

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08 Aug 2013 17:27:26
Now Rooney can be our best signing of the summer, if only Moyes would commit to giving him a consistent place in the team. And if we beleive what he said about Rooney's form pre-injury, would be a better player than most of our other 'targets'

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08 Aug 2013 17:26:52
Now, we are all in utter despair at what our new CEO has been doing for the last six weeks. (still working really hard, behind the scenes, Ed?)

What do people think about moving Wellbeck back and playing him as an attacking midfielder rather than a striker?

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The only position I'd like to see Welbeck play regularly is as a wing-forward in either a 4231 or 433.

At this point in time his finishing is not good enough to play up front and his first touch and vision aren't what we need in a central AM position. His athleticism, pace and power are his strengths s well as decent link up play - so I think he's best suited to supporting the forwards from out wide (but only as a squad option IMO).

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Hey Gav, How is it going mate? You are keeping as silent as Rooney these days mate ;). Are you looking for a fat contract from the Eds here?

I will only use Welbeck as a squad player. I think if he does not improve, he will be gone.

Deeps.

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08 Aug 2013 17:12:11
Can someone tell me where this big announcement is that people have been banging on about for weeks?

Anyway, I agree with what some posters have been saying in that I really hope Fellaini is not considered a marquee signing by Moyes. If he was really considered to be that good, a big club would have stumped up the money for him a long time ago

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08 Aug 2013 17:09:23
I don't see why we don't go all out and buy modric and gustavo. both affordable and both quality midfielders. in fact. give me one good reason (related strictly to the football they play) due to which we are not going for these two instead of fellaini who is more expensive and less technically gifted

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08 Aug 2013 16:57:39
Anzi apparently are in financial trouble and are selling the majority of there main players. Could we move for Willian? Quality player and we could get a good deal.

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Willian would be a great signing, totally agree. I'd be happy with a summer of fellaini and willian

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08 Aug 2013 16:57:08
Well, along with almost everything that has been written on this site over the last month we can also lay to rest the "something special is going to happen on August 8th myth".

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08 Aug 2013 16:39:58
Well at least we know where we stand re Fabregas. Feeling down in the dumps because of two things. Firstly we still have not signed anyone as yet, we are being controlled by the media who keep us on the edge of our seats with their constant speculation and dribble and we keep falling for it. Hopefully this will change over the next few weeks when we actually do sign some one.
Secondly all this doom and gloom is getting out of control. I have no qualms with some one expressing their disappointment with our lack of activity, but what really gets me is the amount of no namers posting.
It's simple to register a name so I would ask all these no namers to please register, that way your thoughts and ideas will be taken more seriously enabling you to partake in more meaningful discussion.
It is a pity that we have very little input from the Eds now because of fools who have no cop on or intelligence. After all it was through the Eds that we received most of the reliable info and if we had that source now there wouldn't be as many dispondent posts. Would love to have that channel back.

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08 Aug 2013 16:38:38
Manchester United could actually do with a player like Fellaini, the fact that he was played attacking all season the previous campaigning and that he prefers to play defensive. He could play the much needed role that Yaya Toure does so often for City, stay back and break opponents play when leading, and in desparate situations in need of goals get forward and attack and score/make a few. Fellaini has displayed both in the past two seasons and has been a force to recon with when played against! Hope we really do go out and get him! Would be a welcome addition to the 1st team!

B-Boy!

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08 Aug 2013 16:36:09
So fabergas as expected has committed his future to Barcelona.
United release an official response
"We appreciate Cesc is a contracted player at Barcelona, and completely respect everything Cesc has said today, "

So now on to fellaini as expected
Jred

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Why did we need to respond to his statement?imo its made us look a bit stupid, we have never dealt with potential signings in this manner before so why now, its all very weird

phil

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The club responded quickly as well.


Strange indeed. Completely out of character

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08 Aug 2013 15:31:53
Think that's me done on here for a while, going to take a leaf out of badgers book and leave the site for a bit untill the window has closed and this place gets back to normal.
Honestly some of the people on here are more depressing than seeing my bank statement after a big weekend.
I hope we get a few in guys, zee we need your luck now buddy :-) GDS keep reigning them in AJH enjoy your holiday mate, syd (chicken little), badger, shappy shams jred etc see u soon lads.
GGMU

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08 Aug 2013 17:05:17
Have a good un mate, i'm considering taking a break from the site myself. See you soon.

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I'll be in Spain for two weeks on Saturday, so I'm giving it a break too. Don't want all these miserable, knickers in a twist lot, spoiling my holiday.

StevieK

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Chris
You maybe back quicker than you think, I think we will make 2 signings in the next 10 days
Jred

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Enjoy your break pal! I've been floating in and out for much the same reason, it's just getting too depressing on here.

I hope you come back re-energised towards the end of the window!

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08 Aug 2013 16:28:34
Jesus Christ calm down people. Some of you lot look ridiculous. If uneasy a fan of the noisy neighbors or the dirty scouse I'd be laughing my head off.

Dis you expect Fabregas to say he wants to come & hates life at Barcelona?! Nothing is over yet. Not by a long shot.

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Amen brother

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I think the fact that the club have made a pigs ear of the whole affair is what upset most United fans. I mean, why did the club have to go public? If Fabregas initially gave some encouragement, then it is patently obvious that he and his agent - like other players and agents in the past - have used United. Why do you think SAF missed out so called big signings? It was for the want of trying; he just wouldn't allow the club to be used and abused by petty agents.

Moyes should have just gone out and got Felliani the day he took over. It would have alleviated so must pressure

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It may well be over, but in all fairness I think Cesc worded things very well.

Sydney!

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08 Aug 2013 16:07:46
what amazes me is we wouldn't have to be looking for a 20million fellaini if we just gave pogba more money and minutes

just look at what he has done at juve

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Is this a serious post?

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What has he really done at juve, scored a couple of screamers, tom cleverly has done that last season and not many people would consider him better than fellani

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Pogba is far better than Fellaini, in every footballing way, but he is gone now. Time to look elsewhere.

Sydney!

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08 Aug 2013 17:25:12
Stop it. let's not drag Pogba up again. !

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08 Aug 2013 15:48:42
So does everyone think fabregas deal is dead then? Or is it a case of if we have a bid accepted? Or are his comments going to discourage another bid? Not really read any quotes or seen his conference so just wondering

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I have just read the Cesc quotes and he is saying everything I would expect him to say as a Barcelona player.

Sydney!

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Yes that's the feeling I get. He's not going to say I'm very happy here unless a better offer is made is he. I don't think it's dead if we put a 36-40 million bid in barca could accept which then leaves him with a decision.

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08 Aug 2013 15:45:31
With Honda being in the last 6 months of his contract and free to talk to clubs. does anyone know if any clubs have actually made contact. we could pick this guy up this summer for a very low price. surely this would represent value in th emarket.

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He is in advanced negotiations with AC Milan, pretty much a done deal already

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Yeah very close to signing for AC Milan although I think he's going to wait out the next 6 months and move for free because Milan don't want to pay for CSKA are asking for at the moment.

I think he'd definitely improve our midfield options, versatile, has flair and good passing range, not to mention his set pieces but I cannot see it happening : (

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08 Aug 2013 15:41:46
Does anybody else think it would be funny if we went after Suarez? How would people feel about that? I think it would be worth it just to see the look on the other lots faces!

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Do not want him anywhere near the club, Ferdinand and Evra would smother him with a pillow while he slept.

Ozwald

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08 Aug 2013 15:35:32
The big announcement was Instagram and Google +.

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08 Aug 2013 15:32:16
I think at this stage in the preseason everyone was expecting signings, myself included. It is really important as a new CEO, Manager, Boss, Teacher, etc. to come in and put your stamp on your position. Which Moyes has not done publicly. With the community shield just days ahead it would have been nice to have Fallaini out there, assuming he is coming and has been back up plan all along. WTF, get your players in and get to work. Left back and two central mids will do the trick. Significantly stronger if we do that. I love Evra massive personality in the dressing room but out of position too much so he has to be replaced. playing catch up isn't going to work this year. No SAF so no Xmas time bump. Come back Rene and let's get going.

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08 Aug 2013 15:23:20
I have been out all day and just looked on the site and scrolled down. Have we gone bankrupt and sold the whole squad or sacked moyes or signed Eric djemba djemba back?

I am confused, there seems to be a lot of negativity from posters that have been on here for weeks saying there was zero chance of us signing fabregas somewhat upset that he has come out at a barca press conference (which he had to do by the way) and announced he is staying.

I think the management change at barca has made him stay for another year and try and get into the first team if I am honest, but I think we must have had word from his advisors that he would come if we had a bid accepted.

Moyes obviously has his ideas about who he wants to bring in and shock horror they are not the same as everybody on here thinks, so we complain about it. Why don't we give him time, stop listening to the media bandwagon and just see how he gets on this season, we were asked to give him time by fergie so let's do that.

I am still sure we have money to spend and we will bring in 2-3 players to strengthen the first team, the mass hysteria on this site when there is a small bit of bad news is quite frankly embarrassing.

I just read down the page that one poster said his season ticket is staying in his drawer. I have friends who can't afford to go to the games that would snatch your hand off for that ticket mate if you want to let us know when I can pick it up? You are a joke of a fan, every player playing for united this season deserves our backing, each and every one of them is playing for the club we love and are premier league champions.

People can slate me for being optimistic, but over 25 years of following my team have taught me not to worry too much in August, because in may we generally have some trophies.

Can't wait for wembley on Sunday, the highest number of fans one team has taken to any match at wembley, fantastic support, wish more of them posted on here!

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Hallelujah! AL LAST SOME POSITIVITY. Superb post, The way some people go on you would think our squad just about survived relegation last season. We are the champions of England ffs and are not suddenly going to turn into Stoke over night. I have a sneaking feeling that a lot of so called fans on here are going to have a lot of egg on there faces by the end of this window. See you at Wembley GDS2 I will recognise you because we will be the only ones their smiling!

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Togthered.

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Now come on GDS! That's not the attitude. You're meant to be panicking, marching on Old Trafford with torches and pitchforks right now to demand an explanation from Moyes. Instead you seem perfectly calm and reasoned, have you lost your head ;)
I completely agree, generally by May we have trophies that's when I will judge our season. A lot of people already seem set on disaster because them being right and having to moan about something is more important than supporting the team.

However, as somebody said up the page, by this time I would have liked to see a bit more movement in the market, only 9 days to the start of the season etc but the window doesn't shut today and you can get plenty of business done in 3 weeks, hell I've had girlfriends last less than that and they were something to really moan about.

Jaxer

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The word of today is that we won't get Cesc and we'll spend another 2 weeks chasing somebody else.

Hysteria, maybe unacceptable, but won't change the fact that we fail to sign him after such publicity.

I just don't believe anymore in any rumor or even if DM itself comes and say we're after. Go get him and then talk.

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08 Aug 2013 15:22:35
Just to add a bit of sanity to the debate, what did you expect Cesc to say? Do you really think that he would come and say:

'I don't want to be here, I want to join Manchester United but they haven't had a bid accepted yet. '

Use some common sense, nothing is over until the 2nd of September. I've learnt that no matter what people say about transfers it's mostly nonsense!

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08 Aug 2013 15:15:53
i really really really hope moyes pulls a suprise with some great and unexpected signings because at the moment things don't look too good, we are missing out on our transfer targets and with rooney expected to move to chelsea it makes it even worse. if we end up just fellaini and maybe baines then I fear for this season. forgive my grammar swahili is my first language

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08 Aug 2013 15:11:21
What was the code for the 'Football Rumours Super League 2013/14' guys? Much appreciated.

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TK-Red

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08 Aug 2013 15:10:58
So what guys, Fabregas ain't coming big effing deal. Even the biggest clubs, obviously MUFC included, do not always get their man. What do we do, give up on targets, don't put a bid in, give the EPL up? Get real people, give Moyesee a chance. I trust he will drive this squad forward cause he's a good coach and is motivated. We want motivated players, players motivated to move to our club for the right reasons. The EPL hasn't started and I for one will give the guy a chance and trust he will improve the squad before the season starts. On the evidence so far he has got players like Anderson and Nani playing well and he has stated he knows midfield is a priority. Anyway that's my view and I personally am looking forward to the scrap this year under our new manager.

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08 Aug 2013 14:45:16
When saf retired the words ' end of an era ' we're very appropriate, he was unbelievable really, almost too good.
The problem with the phrase end of an era is that it goes beyond just a new manager.
I'm not going to get all sulky and down like other posters, I am really frustrated by the lack of transfer activity (so far ), But we have had so much success as fans of this great club that it would be rather spoilt to continually expect it.
I do believe we will continue to compete for every trophy, I highly doubt we will be as dominant though, with the amount of money there is being thrown about at other clubs its not possible.
The stature of the club will never change. It's Manchester United. The biggest sporting brand in the world. I don't care what noise City/Chelski etc. make they are years behind in that respect. I even find myself having a bit more respect for Liverpool as a club and their achievements. although only a bit.
All we be forgotten when we sign Ronaldo and win the champions league ;)

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He has kept silent for all this time and now he chooses to come out and say he is happy and staying put. It seems to me that he has got some firm assurances from Barca about his future, which begs the question why we have wasted our time trying to sign the guy? All it has done is make Moyes, Woodward and the club - look like a bit of a joke.

I hope I am wrong. I hope that it is United who are using Fabregas to hide other dealings. Alas, I think we start the season with the same 11 who ended it. Not a great thought considering we shipped 5 goals.

Sorry for the negativity guys, but I can't believe that we are just over a week away from the start of the new season, and we haven't sorted out the CM problem or the Rooney situation.

You never know, we could all be blown away by a 50 million pound bid for Suarez. :O)

SLred

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08 Aug 2013 16:08:03
I watched Modric last night v Chelsea. What a player, technically sound, creative, and so intelligent in his movement. A player like that can run the game as he did in the first half last night. My question is, amidst all of our frustration about the MF, how many players out there have that ability today to really dictate the flow of the game from the center of the park?

We think naturally of Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes. But who has that kind of ability and is actually available? Carrick is a fine passer but not confident enough on the ball under pressure.

The ideal creator has to be confident enough to receive and escape pressure, have a range of passing, intelligent movement, a pass and move type of player, and the maturity to dictate tempo.

We are finding out that teams with players like Fabregas, Modric, Mata do not want to give them up and rightly so. And I feel that it is the deep lying playmakers that really dictate the game more than the attacking midfielders. I would love to hear other thoughts.

Zidaniel

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You know I think Marco Verratti would have been perfect, maybe a bit young but he's a fantastic deep lying playmaker, a shame we haven't been interested in him.

Ozwald

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08 Aug 2013 14:44:11
Cesc didn't rule us out at all I still think he isn't
wanted at Barca!!



Redmist

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It's over mate. Don't put yourself through any more aggro.

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I understand that sometimes managers, players etc want to achieve something with their words and don't really mean what they say, but I will take Fabregas' quotes for true. Although all he said is that he's happy to stay at Barca and he hasn't contacted United directly, I believe his aim was to end any speculation and to inform people that he will stay at Barca for one more year at least. Hope I'm wrong though.

Nicolas_United

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08 Aug 2013 14:42:33
I will reserve judgement until the end of the transfer window however should we end up with Fellaini and possibly another signing whether it be LB or CM I won't be very impressed. Fabregas isn't coming in, ok fine was a longshot anyway but it better be a mightily impressive 3 weeks if I am to feel we have kept pace with the improving squads around us.

I'm not suggesting for one second that we have a god given right to this player or that player, but I do feel, as champions of the EPL, a club with unrivalled history and a gross turnover to match every other club, that we should be looking to improve our squad with more than just Fellaini. He's a good player and will do well if he comes in, but he's not proven at the highest level.

Constant improvement is a must for teams at the top such as us and with Bayern, Chelsea, Real, City, Juve and Barca improving their squads we need to keep pace or we will not compete in the final stages of europe and will greatly struggle to retain our title.

That being said, if the club comes out and says we are going to promote youth and build a squad that will be competitive in the future, I will of course understand and be behind them 100% but that doesn't seem to be the message from Moyes and co. as things stand.

I'm expecting big seasons from Kagawa, RVP, Jones, Rafael and Vidic but we need to give Carrick a quality partner in the middle and improve the wings with someone who our opponents will fear.

I have my fingers crossed for quality to come in. Gundogan, Modric, Marchisio or someone of similiar ilk. Along with perhaps a project signing of Taider, Kondogbia.

Heres hoping

Stuey

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Why don't we use Rooney to swap for a world class midfield player as there is more value in a swap rather than 30m.
Why do we always have to give top players away and pay through the nose for second rate players?We have enough quality up front to let Rooney go but we need a midfield and wide player urgent.
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Red Baron - WTF! we do not have enough quality up front without Rooney. I think you are banking on Van Persie having as good as season as last season, who knows what he will do, he could get injured. Then we have '2 goal' Welbeck and 'not as good when he starts' Hernandez.
Don't get me wrong I like Hernandez but he is much better coming from the bench. We need to keep Rooney or find a replacement and sort the bloody midfield out, once and for all.
Fabregas sound's honest with his comments I just wish he would have come out sooner and said them and we could have moved on. I now hope Rooney says the same about Manchester United but I think we know that's not going to happen : (
RedMist

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08 Aug 2013 14:40:22
8th August big announcement then? Us spreading to Instagram wasn't the announcement I was hoping for. Davethered

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08 Aug 2013 14:39:24
i've decided that rather than get excited about transfers, i'm now going to get excited about sponsorship deals as these happen quite regular.

I really hope another massive company sponsor us loads of money. I can't wait to find out who it is.

Del Boy!

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08 Aug 2013 14:37:52
Moyes is way out of his depth in my opinion well from what I've seen so far anyway! did they hire him because he can be easily controlled? because its Manchester United and he's just happy to have the opportunity? He's a puppet in my opinion and I'm really p1ssed off! look at all his comments the last few weeks, we have a great squad already, this team won the league last season, I'm happy with my current squad bla bla bla!

This is a joke at this stage! I said a couple of weeks ago we probably wouldn't sign any central midfielders let alone someone like Fabregas! you can criticize me all you want but this is ridiculous I know there's still a few weeks left in the market but do they think we're persons? Moyes: "manchester united are always interested in top players" so what top players are we going to sign then? can someone tell me that? I am so so angry! the money men brought in someone they can control and who's just happy to be there! when they said we don't have a budget did they mean we don't have an money? that's what it seems like now!

and I'm sorry but the naivety of some people on this site thinking we were actually going to sign Fabregas and/or Ronaldo! what do you think now! Just for a second think about this. Bayern, Madrid and barca 3 semi finalists in the champions league and they've spent about 170m pounds already! just look at the players they have in midfield between the 3 of them its actually sickening as a Utd fan and we're suppose to be basically on a par with those 3 in terms of biggest clubs in the world and yet we have anderson and cleverly in midfield! says it all really! sorry about the rant but I'm so f***ing angry its not even funny!

Flash.

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08 Aug 2013 15:17:39
A fantastic post I couldn't agree more

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Flash. I couldn't agree more.
You are spot on my friend, were slowly becoming the new Arsenal, lots promises but no end product.

Simmo

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Becoming the new Arsenal? How can you say that before we've even gone a season with Moyes without finding out how succesful we are? MU still win trophies, will continue to win trophies.

Makes me chuckle a bit that we win the PL, we get halfway through the next transfer window failing to sign a couple of decent players and everyone becomes all doom and gloom, negative and losing their heads.

Ozwald

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08 Aug 2013 14:29:42
Wow, all of the doom and gloom because fabregas is staying with barca is a bit over the top don't you think!
It was the same last year until we pulled RVP out of the hat. People are ripping up season tickets and not going to attend matches, that's good, ye might still be able to snap up a city season ticket if you want to support big signings.
Fans go to old trafford to support the whole team, the whole club, the big family that is Manchester United. Not just what ever big signing we might have signed.
Some of ye go on like spoilt little children who didn't get the nice new toy from the toy shop.
Supporting a team is for life, whether we win the league or get relegated, if we did the treble there would still be people on here moaning that we didn't win league cup as well!

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Good post and vert true.

i suspect soem of the negative posts are Cityfans anyway.

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Stringer, no one has stopped supporting the club or the players. In fact it is a bit silly to suggest that.
However, a club like united, should be pulling the big stars, but we are not able to sign any of the big stars. It is frustrating to see all the other big teams strengthening while we argue the toss with all selling clubs over money and ending up with no one.
Club didn't go for thiago, why not? Gustavo is on the move and we are not linked, why not? Instead we go for stupid targets like Fabregas when we know fully well they are not coming here.
So Pls don't give us the attitude on your live for united, we all love united and that's why we want to be the best.
Nomidfield

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Somebody below did state their season ticket was staying in the drawer, so it's not that silly. Good post mate.

StevieK

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08 Aug 2013 14:28:17
What other midfielders that is still left in the market?

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I would be happy with Yohan Cabaye to be honest, proven Prem player and a regular starter for a country with a host of top quality players.

Ozwald

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08 Aug 2013 14:26:41
apparently we bid £7m for geoff kondogbia it was rejected and asked to up it to £8.5m, why haven't we? good player, good price? what's happening?!

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08 Aug 2013 14:11:29
Moyes has no limit to his budget, we are after the best players, big announcement on the 8th. What other lies are us ticket season holders going to be told. We are being made to look silly really IMO

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08 Aug 2013 14:32:17
Looks like the clubs have been played for mugs again, by a player and his agent. Fabregas has basically got what he wanted: assurances from Barca that he will play regularly, and the agent has probably stung United for all sorts of costs, associated with player negotiations.

Embarrassing really. Moyes and Woodward are acting more like Chase and Dave.

I have tried to stay positive; but with all that's going on, it is obvious that Moyes is way out of his depth.

Slred

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08 Aug 2013 14:50:24
Not United related, just a quick question. Do the posters think this goal line technology will make a mockery of football. A referee asks for the cameras to check if the ball has crossed the line. It hasn`t crossed the line. The reason it hasn`t crossed the line is because the defender has deliberately handled the ball on the line. Now you`ve have got clear evidence, that A/ It should be a goal & B/ The defender should be sent off but the referee can do nothing. Seems crazy to me.

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08 Aug 2013 14:07:55
I see several posters expressing anger at the lack of signings. I got slated by the so called expert posters for saying the same.

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I can say that what cesc has said is not true.

He was interested in united. but the level of interest is not quite revealed.

was it to get more playing time, was it to strengthen his position at barcelona, or was it to join united indeed.

no one just bids for fun. like we are with suarez, there is a motive.

unfortunately for you guys he stays. fortunately for me he stays too. I don't want arsenal and X-Arsenal players at united.

why does everyone want arsenal players. there are many more. go after modric for once.

anyway my point being. there is no smoke without fire.

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Very well put no name gunner. Don't know about you but I would rather we discovered our own unknown gems, Ole, Cantona, Schmiechel, Irwin, Kanchelskis, Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Nevilles etc. Spending huge money on big names doesn't always work--Torres, Veron, Carroll etc. Good luck for the new season as you like ourselves are a proper club with a tradition of doing things the right way, spending our own money that was earned & not whoring yourselves to some oil rich billionaire.

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08 Aug 2013 13:48:39
Hi now all the dreamers can stop dreaming cesc is staying at barca and all the stupid posts can stop. I am getting worried though to be honest

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08 Aug 2013 14:02:29
Fast becoming a joke! I really hope I'm proved wrong tho!

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08 Aug 2013 13:41:14
How where things in place for big signings! Joke

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08 Aug 2013 13:26:50
Once again turning into a very frustrating and disapointing summer for united fans

Cesc has stated he is happy at Barcelona and knew he wouldn't leave, his happy there.

The same will happen with ronaldo he wi sign a contract and it will be the same thing, happy at Madrid and was never looking to leave.

With city investing heavily, Chelsea investing the title challenge will be even harder next season, I for one am frustrated with the lack off activity in the window

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08 Aug 2013 13:18:47
what a joke we are we can't attract any decent players, fabregas deal never even had any legs in it, we are being conned, we go for players we know the clubs won't sell to us so it looks like we are trying and keep us happy, not me I've had enough now, my season tickets in the drawer and will be staying there, we should have got mourinho in, he would have attracted all the top players and we all know he wanted the job deep down, gunna be a nightmare season for us and many of you know i'm right,
BIGAL REDFOREVER

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I know u react way over the top to the news according to u never had any legs, instead of leaving your season ticket in your draw why dnt u give it to some1 who can't afford one?

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So Big Al you'd have been happy if we never even tried to bid for top players because your not happy when we do. Surprised you never mentioned the "conspiracy" word i've seen bandied about so often on here. Sorry Ronaldo and Fabregas would prefer to stay with their respective clubs but out of the 3 top teams in the world Barcelona and Madrid will be 2 of them so its hardly like they are slumming it is it? My youngest is entering his 6th season at the Academy and I have a little idea what makes United tick. We're red through and through so don't leave your season ticket in the drawer, give it to a fan who supports the club.

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Sorry Big Al I forgot to leave my name on that post.
Red Staffie

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Any club can bid for a player that's easy, what we want to see is the end result, the player stood on the Old Trafford pitch wearing the Manchester United shirt.

Simmo

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08 Aug 2013 13:12:01
Ok so fabzyy isn't coming, atleast we know ehre we stand. Just need few enforcements to improve the midfield and wide areas.

Singh

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08 Aug 2013 12:50:47
I'm giving Moyes 6 months. Not that he's a bad manager, not that he's in anyway responsible for the shambolic transition the club is currently going through, but because the guy has ambition and pride and he will walk once rather than be the subject of the intense press and fan abuse he will receive in the coming months.
The likely exit of Rooney, the retirement of Scholes and the likely move off the field for Giggs, have significant weakened the squad i'm not buying this 'we are the same team that walked the league' crap. We are not, the team has aged, and we've lost Fergie - whose motivation, management style and bloody mindedness was worth 10 points every season. We need to face the fact, we have a pretty average team, a defence that's either injury prone or inexperienced, a none existent midfield and RVP aside a forward line which struggles to find the back of the net at 5 yards.
We are in real trouble and deep down I think most of us know it. We needed a spectacular transfer window to move the club forward It might still happen, but honestly, realistically, will it?

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Well said mate! Though this transfer window has only been Ed Woodwards fault he should of never went to Australia. Any failure this window should be his fault. He should either get sacked or hire a director of football with immediate effect.

Coups

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I don't really know where to start with this post. I'll just say I disagree with everything you, ve written

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Scolms

You are spot on. it's been like a circus from the end of the season upto the start of this season.
Players rejecting moves to United, players wanting to leave United, Moyes saying the same thing over and over again that we can compete and buy the top players and still we wait.
The likelyhood of it is that we will end up with Fellaini and Baines.
It just isn't good enough and we expect more, it's starting to sound like Arsenal now who have said the same thing for the past 5 years but never end up buying a world class player.
This Fabregas story baffles me. I mean what was the actual point of wasting 3 weeks on a player that never wanted to leave. it's bad management on United's part.
Chelsea and City have quietly gone about there business signing good players and all we have done is attract a media circus around our transfer activities just like Liverpool which is never normally the way at United.
WTF is going on. I am completely pi**ed off with the whole thing now.

Simmo

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08 Aug 2013 12:45:10
Fabregas deal is dead time to move on to other targets.

Moyes says there will be signings and Fellaini seems a dead cert but cannot see Baines coming off.

Could take advantage of the Anzhi situation with Willian and Las Diarra.

Will be busy week before the season kicks off for a lot of teams, hopefully we come out on top and pull out some aces.

Jobby

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08 Aug 2013 12:29:55
I thought there was supposed to be some big announcement today??

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Well there has already been a big announcement, but from Fabregas' side. Apparently he's staying at Barca. I had really high hopes we would sign him.

Nicolas_United

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Yeah, the announcement is Fabregas is not coming. Now there's a surprise!
Nomidfield

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08 Aug 2013 12:29:46
So finally Cesc Fabregas has come out and said that he's staying at Barca, what a shame!

Ozwald

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08 Aug 2013 12:27:20
Does anyone know when this press conference is supposed to be?

JB

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08 Aug 2013 12:09:57
Just watching Neville and Carragher on a website, that's accent must be getting on nev's nerves already and he has to put up with that for the rest of the season lol

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As we all will. What have sky done?!

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I know gary nevilles voice is horrible

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08 Aug 2013 12:06:54
Good luck to Park Ji Sung who has left these shores for a loan at PSV. My mate used to rib me about 'how did he ever get to play for United' but he was a loyal, hard working, uncomplaining, and often underrated servant. Good luck mate

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Still, he was a very average player. Just because he works hard and runs about a lot doesn't make him a good player. I thought the last two seasons he was at United was embarrassing.
The game just passed him by.

Simmo

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Loved Park.

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Got to agree with you Ajh, he might not be a fan favourite but he was a honest and hardworking man. Need more of the sam attitude in our current crop of players

Good luck to him

Singh

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That seems quite disrespectful to me Simmo, Park alway gave United his all and admitted he realised he couldn't cope with the United way anymore.

Good luck in the future Ji-Sung, a true United player who had a good knack of scoring against Arsenal.

MEF

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08 Aug 2013 13:26:14
Park Park where ever you may be, you eat dogs in your own country. But it could worse you could be scouse eating rats in your council house.

Good luck to him. He was a very good servant to the club.

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Lmfao

shappy

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08 Aug 2013 12:03:03
What was the code for the 'Football Rumours Super League 2013/14' guys? Much appreciated.

AR

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08 Aug 2013 12:00:33
Super Red>> "Timbo, you sound like a guy who loves an fantasises about what's written about us in Rag papers, but doesn't realise the truth staring you in the face lol, troll on yourself!"

Given that you have no idea what my thoughts are on transfer activity as I haven't commented all I have to say is. troll on!

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08 Aug 2013 11:59:11
Kloot, this one is for you

I read your post about ticket sales for Rio's testimonial and u said something about Rio disrespecting the club and that United fans have long memories. What did Rio do to disrespect the club?. I am only 16 and I'm was probably too young when it happened to know about it.

Cheers

JohnTheRedMaroon97

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Same thing Keane done mate

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More than that Chris mate. Or did it by some chance get lost on United fans that Rio Ferdinand met Peter Kenyon fresh out of his drug/dope ban?

By the way I have nothing against Fedy, just stating a fact!

Deeps.

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08 Aug 2013 11:17:43
Let us all today just sit back enjoy and laugh and Laugh at Liverpool FC and those supporters who watched a the vampire drag their club through the mud and supported him all the way wearing Tee shirts and chanting his name. How does he repay this loyalty what does he think of this club. He demands to move as he see's Arsenal as a bigger club. It is hard to keep a big grin off my face as I think of all those Scouse persons and how stupid they must feel. Firstly it was Bruno they loved and he went to Chelsea and now King Louis. I absolutely love it as they sink lower and lower. Please please let's demand that Kenny is brought back, let's face it that poor person lost his job because he backed Suarez. Don't anybody be stupid enough to mention Rooney to me as you all know my opinion of the Spud faced nipper and it hasn't changed since he first held the club to ransom. At least his agent has the common sense to make him keep quiet just in case the move he so obvioiusly wants doesn't go through. Today though is just about enjoying the moment as Liverpool and its supporters are shown up for what they are. Clueless persons. Make sure if you are going to the game at Anfield this season you get one of those Suarez tee shirts they all wore can you imagine the amount of phlem flying about as they vented their anger at us. King Louis I salute you. You are my man of the day. Good work

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This has actually brought a smile to my face.

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08 Aug 2013 12:41:02
I am Kloot

If this was never banter page, And with the Ed I respect, I would have given you the answer you require.
Good luck to the Seaosn.

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To be fair Kloot Arsenal are bigger than Liverpool, at least they made the Champions League :p

MEF

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Bit out of order that kloot. I'm all for taking the Michael but you just sound bitter and small minded.

calling liverpool supporters "clueless" for supporting their player is just wrong. were utd supporters "clueless" when cantona kung fu'd a fan or when Rio missed his drug test? are 61% of people on this site "clueless" for wanting Rooney to stay at utd?

I enjoy the scousers delusions about their club and some good natured rivalry, but you sound like you've descended into a dark place of hatred and bile.

it's just football. get a grip and have some perspective.

having said all that, I do like your t shirt idea

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Spot on Andrew B.
Nomidfield

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08 Aug 2013 11:16:07
It's the 8th and we are waiting for this anouncement so I thought I'd trawl the net and see if I could find anything I found an announcement by the club saying we are expanding our social network to instagram and google+

Hope this isn't what we've all been waiting for

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Yes I'm afraid that is it. Yes it is.
DM

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08 Aug 2013 11:29:52
So the 8th August is upon us - Anyone heard anymore on Ronaldo?

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08 Aug 2013 11:29:27
I'm sure today is the day something big is meant to be announced? 8th of August?

Or am I wrong?

Adam

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08 Aug 2013 11:26:32
Currently on holiday in Crete so not been on much for the last few days. Just scrolled down the last few days and found the comment 'Evra is better than Baines'. Well done to Jono for the best reply but seriously? Evra has been brilliant for us but is in the twilight of his career. I don't get all the Baines doubters, personally I liked him at Wigan and he's got a lot better since then. I expect him to replace Cole this year for Engalnd. He is fabulous coming forward, has excellent delivery from dead balls, can defend (which Pat seems to now struggle with) swho cares about hig age. We should just pay the damn money

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08 Aug 2013 11:08:51
Let us all just take some time sit back and laugh and laugh at Liverpool. Do you remember when those thick Scouse clowns appeared on every media supporting the vampire racist as he dragged their club through the mud. How has he repaid their blind stupid loyalty. By spitting in their faces. You know that for the game at Anfield this season we need to get those tee shirts made up that they had. I can almost picture the sea of phlem as they get all heated about it. Please if you are a Liverpool supporter don't come back with what about Rooney. any one who reads this site knows my opinion on the Spud faced nipper. At least his agent has had the common sense to keep Rooney quiet just in case he doesn't get the move he so obviously wants. I just want this to be a day of joy as we enjoy the total humiliation of Liverpool FC and its supporters. You are being made to look like the small time petty club you really are. let's face it he see's moving to A

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KLOOT, I'm not going to join you as I know quite a few Liverpool supporters who are as disgusted by his behaviour as some of us are by Rooney's.

However, he has to be right up there in the list of most odious players ever, his list of misdemeanours just gets longer and longer, with his total disrespect for his club just the latest. I'm not laughing at Liverpool, rivals they may be, but a club of their stature and pedigree deserves better than to be treated so shabbily by someone they stood by (wrongly) through his problems. The man is thoroughly unpleasant

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Ha ha i'm loving at the minute, all my liverpool supporting mates saying get rid, person, traitor etc etc. Ironic these were the same people who said we must keep him after Evra and Ivanovic.
This matter has nothing to do with Rooney but watch them all come on and give it loads!
Small club, who have just become a feeder for the likes of chelsea and arsenal. I bet Stevie G is so sorry he didn't move to Chelsea a few years ago. A class player with a couole of medals to his name, looking at Giggs/scholes etc must make him so deeply envious. Brilliant

GALWAY RED

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Its alright guys. You have your own problems to worry about. I. E. the fact your manager has not won a trophy or maybe the fact you just had a horrible pre season (:

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08 Aug 2013 11:07:53
This summer the club have added twitter, Instagram, google+ and 3-4 new sponsors around the world. Oh yeah, and a 20 yr old fullback who we hope one day develops into a backup for our current young 20s rb who is on the way to being the best in the world. Priorities much? -KG

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08 Aug 2013 10:39:02
Sorry eds. I apologize for getting personal. Won't happen again. Thx for what u do. -KG

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08 Aug 2013 11:04:18
KLOOT is back. Were you anything to do with the act on the castle stage I got a glimpse of last Friday evening?

Supasub

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08 Aug 2013 11:03:41
We used to be able to negotiate deals that suited us I. e installmants like the rio and Rooney deals. If we win cups etc etc led to additional payments.

However this tactic doesn't appear to work and most clubs would rather have the money upfront to reinvest. We seem to stutter with transfers if we're £5-7 million away from a clubs valuation then pay the difference. I can understand if a club puts an unrealistic valuation on a player. I also understand why Moyes is after quality as opposed to potential as we have a squad that has players full of potential but we have a few quality players.

Mad Hatter

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08 Aug 2013 10:57:21
What do peeps make of the Dutch paper saying Buttner could be sold to Besiktas? I thought Evra and one of Buttner/Fabio will be sold this summer and Baines will be signed. But will Evra stay and leave for free next summer with Fabio backing up Rafael at RB until Varela gets a work permit next summer? Or will Fabio go on loan and Valencia will be Rafael's back-up?

What do people think will happen this summer in the fullback positions?

Sydney!

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Baines in, Buttner out. Fabio / Varela out on loan.

RB; Rafael / Jones & Smalling backup
LB; Baines / Evra backup

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I'm thinking Rooney wil be played at left back is he stays.

Seriously, Buttner is not, and I doubt will ever be good enough. We need a new left back, hopefully Baines

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08 Aug 2013 10:56:04
Anybody see ronaldo pull chelsea apart ladt night? Time we bring him home.

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08 Aug 2013 10:50:57
Fabregas News conference called for later today.
Barcelona based so I think we know which way this one is going to fall.
Shame as he would have been perfect.

I think this means the domino effect of Fabregas/Rooney/Luiz will be broken today so all 3 will stay where they are.

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08 Aug 2013 10:23:05
Anyone any idea what time the press conference or announcement will happen today if at all?

On the Fergie Rooney saga I think we should trust SAF on this one, none of us has any idea of what was or wasn't said when Rooney confronted him. We can all summise as to what was said but you be sure that his lack of forminterest, condition was mentioned. Remember this slump was not confined to Utd it was with his national team also.
If it was in any of our work places that we let our standards drop in the same way his has we would be pulled to one side and told to shape up or ship out. If we went to a managers office and complained about something then it would be ten times worse.
Rooney had the world at his feet, earning crazy money, playing for the greatest team on the planet, idolised by millions, good looking wife, two lovely kids, he even has a full head of hair but no this apparently is not enough. He wants to slouch and have things his own way while wearing the jersey of Man Utd.
Sorry but this is not good enough he has had plenty of opportunity to knuckle down and get back on track. I would have a lot more respect for him if he came out and said one way or another that he wants to stay or go, but all we mere supporters get is silence. Bigger and better players have come and gone at this great club, so although he might have a special talent he is by no means SPECIAL.

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08 Aug 2013 10:20:13
I don't know why there is so much hate towards Fellaini. If Moyes wants to look within the League (which is always a safe bet) then there is really no one better. I think the best part about Fellaini is that he see's himself and wants to be a defensive minded central midfielder. Moyes will not need to play him further forward, he can just sit and be a dominant force (something that we have been lacking). He may not be technically perfect, but he has the players around him to for it not to be as important. We all say how brilliant Jones is at breaking up play and playing in midfield yet he is technically awful. Fellaini will be a brilliant signing and he offers something that we don't have 'Power'. He will improve our defending off of corners and attacking on set plays and will be able to keep up with the Yaya Toure's and Javi Martinez' of this world.

Also would just like to say how delighted I am to here us linked with Lucas Muriel - he is a huge talent, much like Alexis Sanchez and is the kind of player we need up front - someone who can play anywhere in a front 4. Perfect replacement for Rooney in my opinion.

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Fellaini would be awesome with us.

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Fresh

You should really go and see a doctor about all this common sense you keep talking. We have a number of issues - inconsistent wingers, a weakness at left back, but the biggest one is a soft centre. He may not be marque or sexy but Fellaini would address that. Add in Cabaye for creativity, along with Zaha for unpredictableness (is that a word?) and we will have improved a lot from last year.

And as for Rooney, does anyone remember when Keane was shipped out and replaced by Carrick? On paper, that looked a poor move but the 'team' got a whole lot better.

Talk of Ronaldo is fanciful, Fabregas doesn't look like happening, let's concentrate on addressing last season's short comings.

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Fresh, I don't think people hate Fellaini, just that they think there are better players available to fill our midfield.

we do lack some presence and power but I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting a player who can provide that but can play a bit as well eg de rossi

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Bayern: Alcantara
Bacelona: Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas
Madrid: Kaka Ozil, Isco, Alonso

Do you think any of these teams can get to the Champions League Final?

Do you see any of them chasing Felaini?

What does that tell you?

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08 Aug 2013 10:19:36
Fantasy premier league code anyone?

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08 Aug 2013 10:17:29
Hi folks just a question or thoughts please. If and I state if we sign fellani and maybe baines, will they do or are we still short. My opinion is well short, thoughts

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Who is WGT? and I am sure Rio's testimonial is tomorrow. Legend in my eyes!

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No, a tad short, and of Roonet leaves possibly a little more

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08 Aug 2013 09:56:06
So today it is the Testimonial for the WGT and he has only sold 45,000 tickets compare this to Scholes Giggs Keane, etc who all sold out the capacity. He may do everything he can to PR himself as a United legend but as Rooney will discover, United supporters have long memories and if you disrespect the club then we very rarely forgive.

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Why what has Ferdinand done to upset you Kloot?

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Being selective aren't you? Neville's testimonial wasn't a full house. He stills counts as a legend I hope! So many empty seats. and the top tier wasn't even available.

are you a cat person Kloot?

Rudi

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Great player Roy Keane but he was a complete TO*SER off the pitch.
If he was made from chocolate he would have ate himself because he loved himself that much.

Simmo

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08 Aug 2013 09:48:37
Hi all, been a long time admirer of this site, and have got to say that even though I moved to Australia, this is the only site that year in year out has grown and produced a fantastic hotbed of transfer activity, albeit 90% educated guessing and tabloid cut and paste, but every year around this time of year I can't get enough of it. Thanks for keeping me in touch with the best in British football {Ed004's Note - Your welcome}

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08 Aug 2013 09:34:41
According to the metro we are looking at a player called Luis Muriel, 22, from Udinese as a possible replacement for Rooney. I haven't seen him play before nor heard much about him but looking at YouTube clips he does look like a very talented and exciting player (I do appreciate that YouTube can make Emile Heskey look like Ibrahimovic).
Has anyone seen him play or know much about him and is this a realistic and possible transfer or just another random name thrown into the hat for fun?
Giggs11

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I heard the scousers were interested a while back which can only mean he is the love child of Messi and Pele.

In all honesty he looks a good prospect.

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08 Aug 2013 10:12:26
Looks a decent player the couple of times i've seen him. Although can be abit hit and miss. Juve have been looking at him prior to them signing Tevez and Lloronte. For the right price he could be a good option. But good luck trying to get a good price out of Udinese.

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Quick feet, strong and an eye for goal. Scored 11 in 15 games last season and was often played wide or behind the striker.

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Seen him play a few times in a very average team (udinese). Has the potential to be something very good but hard to say, some thrive with better players at club like ours and some wilt and can never come to terms with the PL.

Shahram

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08 Aug 2013 09:20:29
Everton fan here. I'm sure you've all heard the rumour of £30m for Fellaini and Baines.

This will not happen. Fellaini has a release cluse of £24m. Everton rejected a bid of £12m for Baines. I'm sure you can do the math and see how silly the £30m rumour is. If they go (before Fellaini's release clause runs out) you can expect it to be for £40m + addons (title wins, etc).

If Fellaini's release clause runs out (which it does on the 14th of August) expect him to go for no less than £30m. While Kenwright has a good relationship with Moyes, it is Ed Woodward who would be handling the transfer. Kenwright has no love for any other United staff and is still considering putting in an official complaint over the Moyes saga. For that reason, if he can stop Fellaini going on the cheap, he will.

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An Everton fan you maybe but you obviously have no contacts with the club or any inside knowledge or you would know that we financially compensated Everton for Moyes. You would also know that it was £9 million we offered for Baines not the 12 the press reported. You may also know that even though Fellaini lives in Manchester he was hoping for a move to London. So far Arsenal are not willing to meet Everton's valuation.

So by all means come on our site if you have some useful information but do not just come on to cry and winge like a little girl about which players we will take off you

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So a team COULD pay £24 million to trigger a release clause but you think they will wait until after 14th August and pay more.
Not quite thought through there Mr Blue nose.
I think Mr Moyes knows the fianancial situation across Stanley Park and will believe he can get The Wig for less than the release clause IMO.

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I would say £37m is the most that they would cost. So £30m plus Anderson may be the figure accepted? Who knows. I think MU will lower the asking price for Anderson from the reported £10m to around £7m.

Sydney!

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Brilliant Kloot!

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08 Aug 2013 07:27:24
Spurs about to sign Capoue the French combative midfielder. Is it me or do Spurs have a real knack of signing players we could really do with?

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I agree you look at some of the signings Spurs have made in the last 5 or 6 years and they have been excellent value

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Bale, Modric, Dembele, Verthongen, Capoue, Paulinho, van der Vaart, Parker, Defoe - all fantastic value. They are also very good at finding a few young ones like Walker & Naughton. I really do rate Levy as a chairman and Lewis as an owner. They may not be popular with us but you can't deny that they always do what's right for Spurs.

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We are so much bigger than them (no disrespect intended to a top club) but they are so much more efficient with their transfer activity. Not only do they buy well, they sell very well too. Cannot say the same for us.

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08 Aug 2013 06:44:10
So jred would you say that when Sir Alex said that Rooney had asked for a move that it was a bumbling gaffe made by a bitter old man who was trying to settle a score regardless of whether doing so would potentially destroy what he had been building for over 25 years?

Or was it a well thought out and calculated move made by an old master in order to manipulate the press like he had been doing for 25 years with great success?

Cus it was one or the other.

Shappy

I think it was a very rare mistake from fergy, maybe he got caught up in the emotion of the day but for an outgoing manager to drop a bomb like was a bit daft.
Jred

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Agreed jred, he totally dropped us in the sht with that needless comment. Totally unsettling and potentially devaluing our most marketable asset (albeit a declining asset on the pitch) and giving Moyes an almighty headache as a handover gift.

Fergie is an unsurpassable legend for us but he wasn't without his major faults.

Rave

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Maybe they understand his camp is about cash and a new deal and did it to put pressure on him from all angles to hand in the transfer request and 1. Allow the club to save cash. 2. Make Rooney out to be the bad guy when the real reason was probably the friction between him and SAF. 3. Allow SAF the parting shot he wanted from the last time. 4. Allow Moyes to take on the sittu and deal with it from a position of strength (i. e he could sell, make up with him, offer new deal, whatever and not look bad) or 5. All of the above!

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Again it's only the two ways shappy says it can be. How about it being the same manager who has fallen out with players, and put a cleat upside David backhams head? So this was fergies plan? Put moyes in an impossible position while removing one of his only elite attackers without having a replacement in place? Shappy you need to get off your high horse and remember that posting on here more than anyone else doesn't make you right, smarter or more of a united fan than anyone else.-KG

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Fergie has always been bitter.

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08 Aug 2013 06:24:15
Well it's August 8th, the big! What do we all reckon? Massive news apparently, I am going for Moyes to say "we are still looking" and we can all gasp in astonishment.

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I think today will pass and we'll know nothing new. Hope I'm wrong. Was the "8th August" speculation not fabricated by a newspaper over the date we'd announce the ronaldo signing?

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08 Aug 2013 05:10:46
Like I said a while back we won't sign anyone of note. Then moyes will come out and say anderson is the one to boost the midfield as he has loads of potential if he avoids injury. Desperate times. Some reason we don't seem to be appealing to players now.

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08 Aug 2013 03:03:18
if rooney goes what does everyone think of luis murial he's 22 has great potential and it would be a good rotation with him lil pea and welbz. murial can dribbles has good vision cah score goal and has a good head on his shoulders. just a theory.

SUMS

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You've been reading
The metro?! Haha.

Quality player, will be awesome in a few years.

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08 Aug 2013 02:39:11
The press conference is just to say we are happy with the squad and we are going to work with what we have. You heard it here first.

diego

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If by first you mean 1421st. Then yes. -KG

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08 Aug 2013 01:34:15
Right, I think a lot of you on here need to wake up and realise what's going on here.
Man utd have bid and failed on the signing of Fabregas, why?because firstly the bid was too low, secondly he loves barca and has tried to hard to get to where he is from arsenal and thirdly Arsenal still have first refusal and barca don't want to sell.
On Feilaini, even though I feel he ain't utd quality or what we need and I do feel lots of you haven't even watched the guy play, because if you did you would know this. a lot of you are jumping on the band wagon, and listening to tabloid bull and thinking oh Moyes is x Everton mgr, oh I think we will get Feilaini, just as the tabloids did recently when it all gone quiet at utd. they are looking for a storey to write so people will take notice and quote they're papers as advertising.
Man Utd have not put in any bids for Feilaini according to Mgr of Everton Martinez, and that is coming from the horses mouth. i'd rather believe that than some rag trying to sell headlines uno!
Nobody knew about the fabregas bid until Moyes came out and said it!
On Rooney, I feel we will try to keep him unless a massive bid of 60-70m comes in which is highly unlikely.
At the moment I don't see Fabregas or Ronaldo coming into Utd, in fact il be surprised if we sign any of the realy world class players at this rate!As I feel we don't have the resources to pay top fees for top players. but I also think we will not waste money on mediocre players as Moyes feels he has the
best squad to win the premier league right now. and we all know how Moyes was good at making do with the small purse he had at Everton. that's why he is at utd at the moment no doubt!coz our purse isn't as big as Chelsea's, city's, barca or Rm for that matter. we won't compete with them in the transfer market.

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Wake up and realise what's going on or read a post where your opinion is stated as a fact?

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No Name, think you are off the mark with this post, time will tell, but wait and see.

A

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Nothing like a know-it-all post from an anonymous poster. You forgot to tell me what I should have for breakfast whilst reading your crap! Troll-on!

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Lol wow! Yeh ure right none of us have watched fellani play, tbh I think ure the only true football fan on here, we should all take notice of this 1 guys, a true footballing genius at work.
I have a question oh mighty one, is bebe not that good then?

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Timbo, you sound like a guy who loves an fantasises about what's written about us in Rag papers, but doesn't realise the truth staring you in the face lol, troll on yourself!
Chris the Redman, the answer to your question is, Bebe is not great at the moment and I'm sure he will be sold or loaned out again as I feel he would have the potential to do well in Championship and still young
mind!dont let 10mins of decent play against a tired AIk cloud your judgement. SAF has been trying to sell this guy on for 2 years, and found it hard to get him loan spells, I certainly don't see him getting much gameplay at Manchester United first team, do you?

SuperRed

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So bebe won't be worldclass?

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08 Aug 2013 00:32:52
Ha the glorious 8th August has arrived and so will our newest signing if its right what several posters have predicted Ronaldo fabregass baines. We wait with for one of them to put pen to paper

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Dont hold your breath on Ronaldo or Fabregas.
It might just be about the team for charity shield.
Nomidfield

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Been Waiting for this day. I imagine we will be disappointed again however :) Here's Hoping for something special

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Rubbish the 8th is a myth by the papers

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08 Aug 2013 00:03:30
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I joined the league, my team name is CHAMP20NS. It's my first time :).

Nicolas_United

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