Manchester United Banter Archive July 08 2015

 

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08 Jul 2015 23:27:10
Looks like lots of folks are on the assumption that we will play a front three of Di Maria, Rooney and Depay.

I have a feeling LVG is still not going to fancy Di Maria and opt for Young on the left. Young was great all season, but I don't think he carries the goal threat that Di Maria will have.

I am personally a fan of Di Maria and his attacking style of play - but if LVG is going to misuse/underuse him, then I think we are better off swapping him for a another winger who can provide goals and fits in LVG's philosophy.

What's the point of having one of the best players in the world if he is going to be benched or forced to play in a way that doesn't exhibit his skills?

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09 Jul 2015 03:12:46
Juan do you not think depay will be the left sided midfielder/attacker?

Can see ADM on the right or as the most advanced of a midfield 3. If he plays on the right I see him rotating with mata with Herrera just behind for support. If as the advanced cm then I can see carrick and schneiderlin as the others in the 3.

As we look to be moving to a higher tempo game the only way he won't be a regular will be if he is sold in my opinion.

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08 Jul 2015 22:46:19
Anybody else a little worried that Carrick will be our only number 6 next year? If, and more like when, he gets injured, we could be starting to look very dodgy again in midfield without his calming influence.

I also think we need to stick with Valdes or bring in Lloris when it comes to keepers. It's vital to give Smalling experienced players to allow him to concentrate on defending rather than worrying about sheparding his defensive unit.

Absolutely delighted with Depay signing up. Mentioned him as an ideal signing about a year ago and think he has the potential to be very dangerous very quickly. If he gets a good start, he'll be terrorising defenders with a direct approach we've lacked for a while now, excluding our application of Fellaini last season!

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08 Jul 2015 23:11:33
LVG said he would sign a number 6 but i don't see us linked with many. Mayb it will b someone we havnt heard of or mayb clearing the decks for a worldie will b javi Martinez. LVG insists that 6 is the most important position and i don't think there's any1 better than Martinez atm

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08 Jul 2015 23:14:38
Is that not what Schneiderlin is being bought for?

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08 Jul 2015 23:14:01
Definitely think we will need one more midfiled signing to have us covered on that front. An injury to Herrera will mean we have the Fellaini hoofball show (as LVG only seems to rate mate on the right)

No disrespect to Fellaini as without him we wouldn't have secured that 4th place spot - I just find it worrying that we are one or two injuries away from being forced to play that way. It will not work all the time - esepcially against more tactically astute managers.

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08 Jul 2015 22:17:44
We are clearing the decks for a worldie or two coming in hopefully a CM & ST .The amount off the wage bill is growing by the day .

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08 Jul 2015 23:09:31
The question is who?

I don't see anybody out there for the forward position, unless Rooney is being moved forward with another supporting player being brought in of excellent quality, with a decent striker being brought in too.

Schneiderlin, despite his qualities, cannot be described as a worldie. Maybe the wages will go somewhere else, like the centre of our defence? Like on Ramos?

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09 Jul 2015 01:20:05
Muller or reus? Just putting it out there.

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09 Jul 2015 02:06:41
Muller I tells ya!!

Supasub

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09 Jul 2015 07:22:16
I've wanted muller for years, if he came I'd be very happy!

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09 Jul 2015 09:13:45
Brendan,

You dirty dog.

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09 Jul 2015 09:46:15
Got to have your guilty pleasures GDS.

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08 Jul 2015 22:09:28
LVG said we would be signing a number 6 given that Schneiderlin is more of a number 8 box to box midfielder who do you all want/ think we will get for the role? i'd love to see us get Schweinsteiger but it looks unlikely. Strootman has had a lot of injury problems. Javi Martinez would b ideal but i doubt Bayern would sell. Have we shown interest in any1 other than Carvalho?

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08 Jul 2015 23:47:02
Martinez or Carvalho for me pleaseπŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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09 Jul 2015 09:31:55
wanyama has been awesome i'd like him in there :)

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08 Jul 2015 22:07:18
My worry if we sign up Darmian (which looks possible if the news outlets are anything to go by) is that if we believe what we have read and heard over the last few months then we haven't been able to persuade our first choice targets thus far.

Even with Depay signed up, if you go down the path of looking at some pretty legitimate sources then that would give you the impression that it was in fact Bale who was of main interest to us for the wing but it seemed to be a non starter so we got Depay.

Now before I get the usual 'your a negative nelly' comments, I am not knocking Darmian or Depay but if say Bale and Coleman were first choice it makes you wonder would a club like Real Madrid have stuck to their guns and got their man? I suppose we will see with De Gea.

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08 Jul 2015 22:24:09
No one knows who our first choice targets are or were. Plus that Is the reason you have options and move with changing information.
Ramos would not have been on a list because no one would have thought he would leave. there is nothing wrong with exploring that avenue if information suggests he might.

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08 Jul 2015 22:24:54
Dont think we got Depay 'instead of' Bale personally.

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08 Jul 2015 22:27:01
what makes you think we were after Bale in this window? and what makes you think he would have wanted to leave Real?

All these rumours have came from the papers speculating who our targets are, nothing more.

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08 Jul 2015 22:30:53
Depay was nothing to do with Bale, Darmian by all accounts may have been first choice. There you go.

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08 Jul 2015 22:58:08
We can't buy someone if it is a non starter.

Coleman is too expensive for what he is.

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08 Jul 2015 23:00:11
jmb i don't think so depay and bale have to do anything but o agree with darmian he surely 3rd choice but tat not really the club fault dani was our 1st choice he used us then coleman was our 2nd choice everton said not for sale and other clubs where closing on darmain if its ture v got him i m happy for the 1st time rather then chasing targets which we won't get and loose the other target we done good job

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08 Jul 2015 23:19:59
What is too expensive for Coleman? .

Proven, defends, attacks, and scores goals. I don't remember him having a bad game tbh. πŸ™‹πŸ™Œ

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08 Jul 2015 23:24:13
Coleman may well have been "first choice" but that's only in the correct circumstances. We wouldn't want to pay Β£30-Β£40m Everton would probably demand just to make sure we nail our "first choice" targets. For me, Coleman is a decent RB but doesn't warrant a bigger fee than say Β£20m max. So I'd rather move on if we get told by Everton we need to pay Β£30 odd million. Same for other targets

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08 Jul 2015 23:29:26
didn't one of the eds say we were after depay long before the rumours of bale started?

i can't remember which ed but i'm sure i read it somewhere before the season ended

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08 Jul 2015 23:32:22
Well no British journalists knew we have been in discussions for over 4 months with Darmain until now. So they hardly seems very reliable to me JMB.

I tell u one person who was talking about Darmain a lot, ED02, he was putting his name out there quite a bit from what I've read on others.
Thats not a soppy we need ED02 back comment just saying we might of had a bit more of a clue he was coming if he was still about.

Anyways back to the point, i think this window is proving the British press know not much of our interest in many of our targets so who knows who 1st 2nd or 3rd choice transfer is.

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08 Jul 2015 23:05:42
May have been? What makes you think?

Let's wait a minute here. The story of Darmian has only been running for the last few days for starters and as for Bale he has been linked to us for months and months through some reputable journals and sources like the Telegraph etc.

Ed002 has said that Bale would be available at the right price and that Untied was a possible destination for the player should Real cash in on him. Ed002 also spoke extensively about Clyne and Coleman for months in regards to United having possible interest, not Darmian. So was Ed002 just feeding us BS? I don't think so.

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09 Jul 2015 08:18:25
Ur right JMB we aren't attracting the players we want no matter how much money we throw at them! So your theory of players only care about money still isn't working out for me this window as I've not seen any examples yet!!!!

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09 Jul 2015 08:56:51
Some people will moan if we spend silly money on the likes of Di Maria and Falcao, then moan again when we try to be more savvy and get the right players for the right price - rather than a flashy name.

All the above is based on speculation jmb (altho in your head it somehow becomes fact) but don't let that get in the way of having a dig at the club.

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09 Jul 2015 09:54:51
I asked ed002 about Darmian approx 4 month ago after I spotted a story online. He was mooted albeit very slightly compared to alves, coleman an clyne. Woodward and man utd seem to be playing a poker style game in the transfer windows over the last 3 and imo are getting better at it playing 1 off another. I expect more signings like everyone else I guess but still think there will be 1 major shock that surprises the massess- atm I would guess at a punt on barkley

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08 Jul 2015 21:26:12
So with the imminent departure of RVP and after turning down the option to sign Falcao, that leaves us with Rooney and Wilson as the 2 recognised strikers. And if rumours are to believed Wilson will go out on loan.

Woodward must surely have a striker in the bag already, either that or he is completely crazy.

I'm going to go for the former and say speculate that we are about to wrap up the signing of a striker. I am excited!

What does everyone else think?

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08 Jul 2015 21:40:23
We still have hernandez

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08 Jul 2015 21:50:41
I can only imagine we have a top player lined up but I've not heard anything from any reliable sources, it's exciting though

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08 Jul 2015 21:52:46
I think the signing of ADM last summer was , as much as anything , Γ  message of intent to the rest of the footballing world. A statement , if you like. I don't think it has turned out to be a good signing in footballing terms , but it certainly dispelled this silly theory that we can no longer attract the "big names".
Personally , I would not be a bit surprised if we made a similar , or even bigger signing in this window. I won't try to guess who , but it will probably be a complete surprise to everyone. And for big bucks too.
I'd PSG's interest in ADM is genuine , another wide front player may be in the cards. Welsh perhaps?

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08 Jul 2015 21:55:38
Don't forget Hernandez is still here, we've also loaned out Keane tonight too, I expect a squad player to be brought in as there's a serious lack of top quality strikers available at the minute.

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08 Jul 2015 22:23:18
i agree.personally think 2 signings will be unveiled at fridays press conference probably not a striker but my bet would be cavarni during the tour

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08 Jul 2015 22:49:54
betty if its true about ADM to psg which i feel its very doubtfull v migth be go for cavani i heard psg close on french striker it make more sense he his lvg kind of player too

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08 Jul 2015 23:21:10
No way ADM is going anywhere. He will come good πŸ˜‰

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09 Jul 2015 00:57:57
Adm to bayern and bring lewandawaski and muller.

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08 Jul 2015 21:07:44
Many worry about our defence, we've made attempts to ratify that so far by targeting Ramos, Otamendi, Darmian, Coleman etc.

What I worry about most is last season we was overly stocked in strikers, with RVP to fenerbahce looking likely now we have Rooney and Wilson. With one of the eds mentioning we are looking to loan Wilson out that leaves us Rooney.

I hope that Ed and LVG have somebody else lined up or else we will be looking very thin up top. Which surely leads to the thought that they must have somebody in mind where the deal is close.

Thoughts?

Also other than Mitrovic have we shown interest elsewhere lately? Likely to have changed on the striker front with us moving RVP on. Benzema or Lacazette would be ideal.

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08 Jul 2015 21:26:46
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Moon views - Episode 3. The Goalkeeper Review.

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08 Jul 2015 20:08:51
How do we know the real KLOOT has returned? I want proof of life!

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08 Jul 2015 20:34:56
Im 99% sure its him, you can even see the mancunian swagger in his comments.
:-)

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08 Jul 2015 21:09:41
im not so sure it is

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08 Jul 2015 21:31:38
His user profile / account hasn't been used since October 2013 , until this week. I think he is genuine.
Also , if you look , he only posts from just before 7pm onwards.
That to me fits the profile of someone who has just been released on licence , probably with a tag and a 7pm curfew.
I'm no Sherlock , but I think yes , it is him :)

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08 Jul 2015 20:51:43
I believe its him; definitely a one man brawl

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08 Jul 2015 22:30:01
Cant be sure but the whole mystery around Pogba thing was very Klootish. I forgot how mysterious he liked to be! He also never answered anyone's follow up questions either, another Klootish trait.

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08 Jul 2015 23:22:23
There hasn't been any ramblings on the replicas yet. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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08 Jul 2015 23:49:17
It's not him. Someone has hacked his ip address.

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09 Jul 2015 00:32:06
It's the perfect crime

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09 Jul 2015 09:24:00
Who would be sad enough to hack into Kloots account, just to post on here in his name? Unless Ed002 is trying to get his/her own back on our site :-)

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{Ed001's Note - or someone had set up a fake account back then to wind him up?}

09 Jul 2015 09:47:12
Couldn't set up two profiles with the same name though could you ed?

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{Ed001's Note - well the upper case and lower case letters could be different...}

09 Jul 2015 10:43:53
But if you look at his posts from 2013, the I is upper case, it's since he started posting again now that it shows as a lower case I. Very strange!

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09 Jul 2015 11:02:38
Couldn't the ip be checked? If its not within 50m of old Trafford we know its not Kloot!

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08 Jul 2015 20:03:31
On the subject of Valencia, if we have the money everyone's going on about, why aren't we double swooping them for Otamendi AND Paco Alcacer? Paco is ONLY 21 and looks the dogs? He's an all rounder as well so will graft aswell as smash goals in?

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08 Jul 2015 20:22:32
I shudder to think what your browsing history looks like ronnie

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08 Jul 2015 20:32:21
That's not a bad shout Ronnie. Alcacer dos very well last season and looks like he'll be a mainstay in the Spanish squad for a long time. Very much doubt we'd look at him though.

I still think Benzema is the best player we could sign to play up front. An LVG type striker is someone who works very hard, is technically very good and is able to create chances on their own. Benzema ticks all the boxes and is worth spending Β£40m on.

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08 Jul 2015 20:35:02
As long as he's not searching for young male talent he might be safe

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08 Jul 2015 20:41:56
Big fan of Alcacer, was brilliant on loan at getafe but he's at the right club for him to develop, being stuck behind Rooney and possibly Wilson won't do anything for his career.

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08 Jul 2015 21:21:39
Alcacer wouldn't ever happen anytime soon. Great player though. Still can't believe Atletico just snapped up Vietto.

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08 Jul 2015 19:39:57
if madrid sell casillas before getting dea gea surely that puts us in a much better way in terms of getting a bigger price for dea gea, as they will be in more of a need to buy him.

just a thought.

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08 Jul 2015 20:36:49
Unless De Gea is a done deal and they're just waiting to sell Casillias

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08 Jul 2015 19:28:12
Hi all

Schweinsteiger rumours have gone down. I thought he would be a brilliant signing. Great experience, top player, yes age goes against him but 7.5mil would be a bargain.

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08 Jul 2015 20:37:20
he came out and said he wanted to win a fourth consecutive title at bayern didn't he?

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08 Jul 2015 20:40:59
Agreed i think him and carrick to cover number 6 role. Herrera and schneiderlin for the number 8 role and Mata and Fellaini for number 10 role would give us a much better midfield next season

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08 Jul 2015 21:02:09
Fellaini no 10 ? I hope not

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08 Jul 2015 21:58:32
Strictly for LVG's infamous plan B sparky. Hope we don't see much of plan B next season to b honest

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08 Jul 2015 18:53:45
Sad to see that Jose has lost any interest in Rooney. I wish someone would rid of this overrated scouse money grabber.

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08 Jul 2015 19:45:36
No comment!

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08 Jul 2015 19:54:40
Totally agree.
RVP a better player than him and he could leave.
Maybe offer Rooney + De Gea for ramos

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08 Jul 2015 19:57:21
I don't think he ever did have interest, the way Jose works he was probably using tactics to unsettle him and Utd.

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08 Jul 2015 20:04:45
rohanarora are you mad??

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08 Jul 2015 20:10:23
Brendan81 Do you have an opinion?

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08 Jul 2015 20:17:12
Oh boy. I'm going to need popcorn for this one.

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08 Jul 2015 20:32:09
Amen Kloot

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08 Jul 2015 20:44:08
I agree Rooney is an overrated Scouse money grabber.

However, he is our overrated Scouse money grabber and by far our best player. There are many other players who need shipping out before we contemplate selling Rooney.

Any way how can we replace him now that Fergie no longer pays bent agents to force moves?

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08 Jul 2015 20:49:16
Rooney-the first name on the teamsheet
World class now leave it😈😈

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08 Jul 2015 21:50:17
No one in the premier league better than rooney in a front 2! He needs help if we are serious

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08 Jul 2015 22:32:24
Are you really KLOOT you seem to be just using old stock to rile new arguments? The one thing I always respected about your posts was the obvious love of the club now it just seems you are playing Jeremy Kyle and trying to start arguments where there aren't any ?!

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08 Jul 2015 22:33:27
Ahh I've missed this 😊

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08 Jul 2015 22:47:40
Don't think I can do another Rooney debate pal, everyone knows my views on him as a person, player, captain etc. Just ends up with Wayne and Colleen, you know who you are ;-), coming on getting upset.

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08 Jul 2015 23:35:32
I don't think it's him. But I could be wrong.

He's a very intriguing poster though.

I have my suspicions even if it were him :)

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09 Jul 2015 00:16:02
Hi Kloot
what was the name of that Norwegian kid you had a go at and he subsequently never posted again?

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09 Jul 2015 02:09:07
And Bardsey Brendan.

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09 Jul 2015 10:50:29
I agree, should of cashed in on him when fergie wanted rid. Like Brendan, many know my view and it's not worth the hassle to fight against the rooney brown nosers.

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08 Jul 2015 18:58:43
Would love to see us by Stone from Everton he would be a good replacement for some of the clowns who played Centre Back last season. Every team that plays against Smalling allows him as much time on the ball as he wants, that must tell you something. He stutters and stops with the ball then knocks it backwards. When I think of the centre backs we have had over the years then I look at Evans Smalling and Jones it makes me want to cry. Not one of them is anywhere near good enough if we want to win things

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08 Jul 2015 19:23:48
Although Stones is technically good he isn't so good at defending his goal which is a trait found in most modern day young defenders. He actually has came out and said that he needs to improve that aspect of his game. I see Stones signing for Chelsea next summer if he continues to improve.

And with regards to Smalling I like him, he has obviously improved over last season and let's hope this season we can see the same. I think he'll be our main centre back next year alongside whoever comes in.

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08 Jul 2015 19:31:10
Except from the fact they have won things with us?

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08 Jul 2015 19:31:37
to be fair to smalling he was arguably are best defender last season, since his red card at city he was great,

the only cb we have that looks calm on the ball and wins most aerial duels, i think if we can get another solid cb along side him, he will be a great defender.

i agree with evans he needs to be gone, someone of his experience has gone backwards.

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08 Jul 2015 19:34:10
not sure that smalling is as bad as you think he has improved a lot imo in the last 6 months and would really benefit from having an experienced cb alongside him offering guidance and assurance. Jones will never be a top centre back and Evans will do a good job for a decent epl team when fit but his days at old Trafford look numbered.

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08 Jul 2015 19:44:37
Everton looked a different team after he came back from injury, they struggled without him

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08 Jul 2015 20:01:19
Evans n Jones should go.
New signing or 2 for CB.
Smalling n Rojo as squad players with the young uns as back up.

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08 Jul 2015 20:18:07
I am convinced that if we Get otemandi any CB that plays alongside him will improve. He has great leadership qualities so whether that's Smalling/Rojo or another purchase we would be set with him.

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08 Jul 2015 21:05:32
Smalling will never be a great defender. He is ok but certainly not great.

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08 Jul 2015 22:37:01
Many of the best CB partnerships have/had only one world class player and another who works well in tandem. I'm hoping the likes of Smalling or Rojo can lift their game next to an organised, top level CB.

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08 Jul 2015 22:50:31
Smalling was the best of a pretty bad bunch last season. Evans is crap, looks like he is fitting when the ball is at his feet. Jones hasn't developed at all and just dives around all over. Rojo has aggression and effort but not the best defender, for me. Blackett not good enough I don't think and McNair needs more time, but could come good. We need one top quality CB for definite as everyone knows.

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09 Jul 2015 02:11:23
Definitely not KLOOT. He would never mix up his punctuation so early in a post - by - buy

And if it was him, he'd be winding us up that it wasnt

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08 Jul 2015 18:37:36
Schneiderlin has been left out of the squad for Southamptons friendly could mean something could mean nothing after all he was supposedly Ill.

Anyway thought I'd share

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08 Jul 2015 19:00:48
Good heads up DD! Fingers crossed we are close to getting that deal over the line to get him on the tour with us! Lots of doom and gloom on the transfer activity atm but a couple quick deals like him and otamendi will perk people up

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08 Jul 2015 19:11:19
Internationals were not going to feature for them ?

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08 Jul 2015 17:59:53
Question the the EDs.

How many if any home grown players will be joining main team? or from the U21 that we followed last year?

I mean last year we had some 7 players or so in first team in and out do we have anyone coming on permanent?

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{Ed004's Note - no idea how I could answer this}

08 Jul 2015 19:04:51
Crystal ball?

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08 Jul 2015 19:42:05
DeLorean?

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08 Jul 2015 18:14:00
There is one thing that annoys me over this potential Darmian signing, and I say potential not because I don't think it will go through as I do but because it hasn't been confirmed yet.

There is this belief from many posters that he wasn't the clubs first choice, many even stating that its "obvious" that he wasn't.

What are you guys basing that on? We have had no confirmed bids for any RB at present, and apparently we have already had two bids for Darmian rejected. So from what I can see is we have made consistent bids for Darmain and none for any other RB, from that I can only conclude that Darmian was our main target.

Sure the press have linked us to Alves, Coleman and Clyne. But we haven't bid for any of them. The press would also have you believe we were on the verge of signing Firmino, and yet we never made a move for him.

What it comes down to is believing in certain speculation that suits your view point yet disregarding everything that doesn't match your view point as "just speculation". It's down right craziness, even deluded.

No one can say whether Darmian is first second or hundredth choice until the club comes out and states otherwise, and even then the club would never say any player they signed was anything other than first choice.

It's cruel to dismiss a talented hard working professional based on speculations that has not a shred of evidence to back any of it up.

I've watched Darmian on about 10 occasions, I've also spoken with a couple of people who have watched him for several years, one has even met him on a couple of occasions. And they both say good things about him.

He is strong, quick, good in the air, a good reader of the game with strong defensive instincts and an engine that allows him to run all day long. As long as he settles in England he will go on to be one of our best signings in recent times.

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08 Jul 2015 18:20:03
Careful there's shaps that sort of sense is not tolerated on here atm.

:)

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08 Jul 2015 18:24:52
Agreed mate

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08 Jul 2015 18:28:43
one of our best signings in recent times?
im not so sure .

time will tell but i remember people making a case for buttner being a very good signing .

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08 Jul 2015 18:33:33
There are many on this site who give opinions based primarily on speculation. We don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes, most of the time, yet that doesn't stop people from feeling aggrieved about a perceived lack of activity or even the order of transfers!

Tbf it works both ways, there are those who think Darmian is an excellent signing based on seeing 1 game v England (where they prob didn't even pay him much attention), some YouTube clips and just because he's been recently linked.

I guess it's all fun though 😜

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08 Jul 2015 18:39:13
As I remember buttner had 17 man of the match awards! when he played for us he was a legend incredible

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08 Jul 2015 18:46:01
Fully agree mate

I read that we've been in contact with torino for 4 months so maybe just maybe he's been our 1st choice all along

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08 Jul 2015 18:49:33
To be fair Jred I don't think he has a huge amount of competition. Who have we signed in the last three years who has blown you away?

In the last 5 years you have De Gea, Kagawa, RvP, Buttner, Zaha, Fellaini, Mata, Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Blind, Di Maria, Falcao, Valdes and Depay so far.

De Gea was a top signing but took a few years to get to grips with it, van Persie had one good season. I have high hopes for Shaw, Herrera and Di Maria. But none of them have surpassed our expectations with the exception of De Gea. There is still time with most of them so it would be harsh to say they haven't lived up to expectations yet as several have only been here one season.

So yes I do believe Darmian has the potential to become one of our best signings of recent times. If he is first choice RB for the next 6 years he'll probably surpass what most of the players I've mentioned will do.

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08 Jul 2015 18:51:11
. but on a positive note, jred, Evra and Stam were not highly thought of when we signed them and both turned into blinders. To be honest, even buying recognised 'stars' doesn't mean they'll be successful with us, Veron, Falcao, and so far, ADM.
Lets just give the lad a chance and help him all we can.

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08 Jul 2015 19:04:23
i loved watching buttner. he was really took united to victory in many matches.

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08 Jul 2015 19:25:31
stam was a top player when we bought him which is why we payed a world record fee for a defender.
evra had just had a great season with monaco getting to the CL final.

truth is people don't seem to off seen much of darmian , but want to try and judge him as not good enough or one of the best signings we have made in recent times.

honeybadger hit the nail on the head

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08 Jul 2015 19:33:12
OT7,

Stam was very well known when we signed him. Most top clubs wanted him if I recall

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08 Jul 2015 20:21:30
I know the metro os full of trash rumours but they didn't half give him a good write up today made me all the more excited to see him play!

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08 Jul 2015 17:27:10
Article in manchester evening news they picked it up from football 365 that mendez was in paris talking about adm i hope its not yrue cause i reckon he will be a star this season after all had highest amounts of assists for utd last season so let's all give the lad encouragement as us utd supporters allways gey behind our players

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08 Jul 2015 17:23:40
Lads, ladies, what is the story with RVP? I understand he needs more game time with the euros coming up next summer, but fenerbache, he is better than that.

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08 Jul 2015 18:02:46
Surprised someone in Italy have not come in for him.

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08 Jul 2015 18:03:56
Injury prone and on big wages.

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08 Jul 2015 18:34:00
Lol mort

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08 Jul 2015 23:50:07
True, quarter of a mill a week for 3 months work.

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08 Jul 2015 17:03:13
I don't get why a club of our size and commercial acumen have the same man doing two different jobs. Woody is clearly very talented when it comes to business-business commercial deals, brilliant (if it is actually him rather than his sales people, but let's give him, the credit as we don't know the details).

However he is a liability when it comes to transfers imo. Anybody could instruct lawyers and bankers to agree to whatever the seller and agent wants and sign off the paperwork, that is all that has happened in recent years and the whole football world knows it.

I appreciate there is a hell of a lot of time to go before the window closes, but this was meant to be the 3rd window, the one where we are ready to challenge again if we believe promises!

It is just going to be delayed again, in business it isn't good enough to keep over promising and to not deliver.

One thing was clear this summer, we needed business done early as we have a busy August and our team needs to gel and understand the gaffers methods which takes longer than almost any other manager to get across. It's not as easy as clicking fingers of course, I would just expect better from an elite business than to constantly mislead and mishandle important issues.

From top to bottom it feels like there is too much delegating, and too much finger pointing or shoulder shrugging. If I owned the club both LVG and Woody would be held to task, there seems to be no accountability.

Does anybody know if it is normal practice for the guy that sorts our sponsorships to be the guy that sorts out transfers for other PL clubs? I certainly don't let my sales staff handle purchases for the company, recipe for disaster.

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08 Jul 2015 18:04:42
i agree with u beast to much power on one person .

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08 Jul 2015 18:09:21
What about the other top teams who have yet to make major moves (and we've already signed Depay too) e.g. City and Chelsea - should their management be taken to task?

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08 Jul 2015 18:13:10
You should work for Real Madrid Beast! They would like your cut throat no nonsense attitude.

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08 Jul 2015 18:25:10
Jesus mate at least wait until the window closes before slating it as a poor window. Maybe the reason we haven't signed everyone yet is because Woody is getting the price down on these players.

There is no winning with you, if we sign the players quickly you moan that we paid too much and should have spent longer getting the price down. If we do that then you claim incompetence for not getting the job done quickly enough.

Some people are glass half empty and other are half full. Then there is Beast who has no glass at all.

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08 Jul 2015 18:36:48
In the las 18 months or so we have signed mata, fellani blind,rojo, di Maria ,Herrera, depay and falcao on loan does that seem like someone who does not know what he's doing

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08 Jul 2015 18:38:38
He handles transfer negotiations before he does the filing and admin paperwork, but nips off early on a wed because he has to do the school runπŸ˜ƒ
Are you serious beast?
Do you think he does it all himself? There will be legal financial and other personnel involved briefing the CEO on progress and the CEO will become involved in crucial stages along the way. You say 'the whole of the football world knows it' and how exactly do you know that? I'm guessing you read it in the sun.
I think sometimes you moan about the wrong things, we have 2 good signings in assuming darmain goes through and Morgan according to reports will be done before Monday so 3 key areas already done, apart from juve and Liverpool what other big club have done more? Real are jerking us around on de gear and Ramos suddenly appearing possible has I'm sure put a ? Over his cb choice as I'm sure he was not an original target but if he is available he is worth the wait imo .
What you are saying is that because he promised business will be done early he should ignore the likes of a possible Ramos deal or MULLER deal because they might take a while. But 3 in inside first 12 days of the window is doing business early or at least its earlier than every other 'big' club.
Sometimes you are so blinded by your hatred of lvg that you spout utter crap, then again sometimes you have valid points but to moan just for the sake of it insults other posters intelligence and impacts negatively on your credibility when you have a valid gripe even when you make well reasoned credible arguments. πŸ˜‡ Ps none of us are saints.

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08 Jul 2015 18:39:54
But you don't own the club, haven't struck major sponsorship deals with world renowned sportswear companies or signed multi-million pound footballers, who earn millions of pounds. Nor have you won titles in Spain, Germany and Holland, won the European Cup or UEFA Cup or managed your countries national team.

These people have and as much as we hate to admit it, they probably know a hell of a lot more about transfers, scouting and signing players to contracts than us fans.

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08 Jul 2015 18:47:00
Come on Beast, behave yourself.
8 days down and a 54 to go.

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08 Jul 2015 18:49:05
Maybe just Maybe that the agents were used to doing deals with United a certain way which was beneficial to certain parties. When someone new like Woodward comes in and wants to do things straight it puts a couple of noses out of joint and they don't want to do business with us

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08 Jul 2015 18:59:25
Beast , if you owned the club you'd be like the Italian guy that owns Leeds , new manager every 45 minutes

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08 Jul 2015 17:01:15
Is everyone convinced that Schneiderlin is good enough to strengthen our midfield? I might be being niave but for the figures being quoted surely there are better options out there.

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08 Jul 2015 17:53:24
he would be one of my first picks

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08 Jul 2015 18:05:06
Based on what? He was one of the best midfielders in the league last year, and the year before that.

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08 Jul 2015 18:10:31
Care to list these better options? Can't think of many prem proven quality midfielders at a good age for that kind of price

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08 Jul 2015 18:12:46
I think he would make an instant improvement on our midfield and I think 28 million is a fair price nowadays however I do think we will also need another cm.

We have neglected our centre midfield far too long and I think it's our weakest area.

Having said that if Otamendi and ramos came in (highly unlikely I know) then I think schneiderlin would be enough

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{Ed030's Note - I would go all out for Otamendi, great defender in my opinion although Miranda would have been a good choice at a reasonable price. }

08 Jul 2015 18:48:40
Yeah I'd like to hope we do go all out for him as a lot of people rave about him. I have to be honest I've hardly seen him play so I honestly couldn't say what I think. He looks a beast of a player though we need someone tough in there

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08 Jul 2015 18:59:33
shame really ed, we get quoted Β£30m last year and he goes for less than half of that the year after, we really are hard to deal with.

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08 Jul 2015 16:57:34
De Gea out for Β£28m - let's be honest that's a good deal considering only 12 months on his contract. Granted it will take that to sign a class replacement but at least we are not being hung out to dry.

Di Maria on his way for Β£40m would be horrific loss. Though perhaps reflective that we overpaid for him in the first place. I would rather he stayed as do believe he's a class player. Whether he can reproduce that class for us remains to be seen.

Ramos - who knows whether this is yet another using our name to get a pay rise but if he is genuine then considering his age, anything upto say Β£35m would still be a good buy. This is someone who literally has won everything and at 29 would still have 3 seasons at the very top. Coincidentally the maximum time I see LVG being in post if only because of his age.

Darmian - Β£13m looks good buy for new Italian RB. Admittedly not seen too much of him but he looks to have a bit of class about him as a person if you've read his open letter to the Torino fans.

Schneiderlin - anything under Β£30m is a bargain for proven premiership performer in a position we've been crying out for.

I think when you do the maths of the above there may be a monster signing in the offing. Ins and outs above don't come to anywhere near Β£150m we are reputedly going to spend so there's some mega money potentially available for a new striker.

But who would you have, what would you pay and why ?

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08 Jul 2015 18:12:30
Problem with ADM going is we will need to spend on another winger in my opinion.
If there was a big bid for someone I can see another Bale scenario.
As for strikers I would be in for Benzema. works hard for the Team and would score more as the focus of a non Ronaldo team

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08 Jul 2015 16:55:20
Just watched the youtube clip of Morgen Schneiderlin. We don't need to change his play he is the perfect Box to Box CM we need, Just look at the video for proof.

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08 Jul 2015 17:34:14
New undies please!

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08 Jul 2015 17:47:45
looks like a good fit to replace fellaini and play with Herrera and Carrick in a midfield 3. I do not see him replacing carrick in the short term but will provide much needed energy and cover in midfield allowing the likes of Herrera and mata to push further forward.

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08 Jul 2015 16:50:30
There used to bea great selection of rumours from posters on here. but looking at the rumours page now, every one seems to be a question to the Eds, some of which are a tad well, desperate. let's get back to the wacky and crazy rumours we used to talk about and give the Eds a break. Just saying

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08 Jul 2015 17:32:25
I did hear something about Suarez possibly moving to Ballymena United. Big deal involving a fiver, a premium sheep of his choice, and a lifetime supply of Tayto cheese and onion crisps.

Don't shoot the messenger.

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08 Jul 2015 17:33:32
People daren't anymore mate, anyone who posts anything that is remotely skeptical gets shot down and hounded as a liar or just gets sarcastic jibes which puts other people off posting them/those posters then don't post again.

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08 Jul 2015 17:33:44
I just met a guy at the bar who is the 1st cousin of the barber of the dog whisperer who worked with the dog of the lady who is the nana of the guy who met someone at the bar who claimed to be the driver of the taxi in which he had locked Snijder, scniderlin and Vidal to carry to Old Trafford.
Just sharing with you guys what I know.
P.S. Don't shoot the messenger.

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08 Jul 2015 17:41:58
Well, not sure if this is anything, but last night, I was a bit peckish, so I nipped to pick up the usual lamb tikka naan from my local takeaway. Parked up as always and went in, but, when I came out I was boxed in. 3 flashy cars they were, so I took the reg plates and went looking for the b*******. Didn't find them but when I got back they were gone, and my tea was cold. Now the 3 plates were SR4, KB9 and CR7. Any ideas who they could be? Looked like footballers cars to me.

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08 Jul 2015 17:54:17
anon has a point

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08 Jul 2015 17:54:17
anon has a point

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08 Jul 2015 19:05:49
2 points by the look of it!

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08 Jul 2015 20:34:34
Bejaysus

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08 Jul 2015 20:35:07
I think Big V is doing a good job keeping us in the loop maybe he's ed002 in disguise ;)

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08 Jul 2015 21:58:53
I actually typed that and deleted it Brendan as I didn't want someone to come on and call my a hypocrite for just mentioning sarcastic remarks haha

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08 Jul 2015 13:26:34
Hi ed's can you shed any light on what we will be doing with nick powell?

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{Ed007's Note - I'd imagine he will be loaned out again or sold/freed, I don't see him having any future at Utd now.}

08 Jul 2015 12:27:34
Reports saying Darmian is now a Manchester United player and it will be announced by the club tomorrow. €18m. Plus €2m bonus.

Also reports saying Goetze was offered as part of a deal for Gundogan. Any of the eds know of any interest from us in Goetze? Great player that doesn't seem to get a run of games for Bayern. Pep doesn't seem too keen on him.

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{Ed007's Note - I would love to see Goetze in a Utd shirt but sadly it isn't going to happen.}

08 Jul 2015 17:18:31
Me too mate, but to be honest I can't really see where he would fit in and would much rather concentrate on a CB and midfielder.

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08 Jul 2015 17:44:59
Ed said on the euro page that he was offered in a deal for gundogan

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{Ed007's Note - And that's to do with Utd because.........

08 Jul 2015 16:31:03
If we've been after Darmian for 4 months why has it taken sooooooo long to sign him

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08 Jul 2015 16:43:47
Because the transfer window only opened 8 days ago.

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08 Jul 2015 16:51:47
Transfer window has only just opened.

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08 Jul 2015 16:56:19
I imagine it would have been a tester back then to his agent to sound out whether he would be interested in a move.

You should read Ed002's post about the various stages of a transfer process, very interesting.

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08 Jul 2015 17:37:54
Maybe we struck a deal with Liverpool to ensure prices weren't hiked further. Depay/Clyne and we thought Alves was going to happen. Then realised it wasn't so we went for 3rd or 4th choice. All guess work and probably BS.

That said I am happy with what I read yesterday on here and look forward to seeing him if he signs.

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08 Jul 2015 20:35:38
Because 4 months ago it was March?.

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08 Jul 2015 16:07:37
i see john jo shelvey has signed a new contract. another 1 to mark off the list. what is woodward playing at its a disgrace.

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08 Jul 2015 16:41:05
Another player we have missed out on.

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08 Jul 2015 16:44:35
Its a sad loss, he would have made a fantastic boot washer.

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08 Jul 2015 16:52:00
Post of the day, well played.

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08 Jul 2015 16:57:52
Herrera Potter cast him aside thankfully, no need for the dark lord at our Prestigious School of Witchcraft and Wizardy, I mean Football Club of Wonders and Dreams.

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08 Jul 2015 17:34:33
all jokes aside, I think I hate Jonjo Shelvey more than any other player playing at the minute, anyone else?

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08 Jul 2015 18:27:24
Me too anon,can't stand him

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08 Jul 2015 19:01:42
ever since his red against us where he started pointing at fergie I've been watching him closely and he really is one of the dirtiest most arrogant players I've watched, snarly horrible kid.

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08 Jul 2015 16:03:15
darmian v valencia
2566 min played 2583
28 dribbles 42
70% tackels success 73%
181 duels won 185
748 accurate passes 1459.

for those that like stats.
darmian only has a 78% pass completion which isn't great

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08 Jul 2015 16:54:55
Darmians pass accuracy is similar to that of clyne and coleman, I did a comparison further down the page, it's obvious he won't have a pass accuracy as high as Valencia as all Valencia does is pass it backwards and sideways.

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08 Jul 2015 16:58:52
Valencia passing backwards should rule out about 1458 of those passes.

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08 Jul 2015 17:17:10
Worth remembering that Darmian achieved these stats within the Torino team, Valencia's was obviously within the United team surrounded by better players, winning more games etc etc. your only as good as the team you play in, I'm sure Ronald's stats would take a hit if he played for Burnley.

That said thanks for your efforts jred it's a good bases for discussion and a good starting point, well imo.

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08 Jul 2015 17:17:39
Would be inserting to see how Gary neville's stats compare. As he is probably the best rb in prem history.somebody must be able to find his stats

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08 Jul 2015 17:36:50
Passing the ball sideways and back always increases the passing accuracy.

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08 Jul 2015 17:37:00
For such comparisons to be of real use you need to factor in what united did in all those games v torino did. For instance, united had shed loads of possession so you'd expect Valencia's number of passes to be far higher.

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08 Jul 2015 17:51:50
Valencia accurate practices 1459
Valencia backward and square passes 1458

Valencia can't cross is scared to beat a man and gets caught out of position a lot

Darmian is a massive upgrade for me

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08 Jul 2015 18:21:26
darmian also played 92 crosses with a success ratio of 13%
valencia played 120 with a succes ratio of 19.2 %

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{Ed030's Note - I wouldn't worry to much about stats, It may just be Torino's attackers are not as good at heading as the Man Utd attackers are or Utd may have more players in the box to attack the crosses than Torino, stats can be very misleading. }

08 Jul 2015 18:35:44
im surprised valencia had 19% i can't remember any

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08 Jul 2015 19:44:50
Selective memory, if it was Rooney you'd remember, plus the foot used, distance, ball speed and how many players it beat!

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08 Jul 2015 15:35:37
Well if we close the deal I will be delighted with Darmian. The last player that we bought from Torino was Denis Law and we all know how that turned out!

Let's just seal this Schneiderlin deal! That will be three fantastic signings that will come in hopefully before the tour. We may even get Otamendi in time too.

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08 Jul 2015 16:36:26
Otamendi wouldn't be involved in the tour regardless would he?

Surely he will have an extended break because of the copa America or am I wrong?

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08 Jul 2015 16:41:31
He will have had around 4 weeks if I'm not mistaken by the start of the tour?

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08 Jul 2015 13:59:42
Finally we know hummels thinking. tempted because we are one of the biggest clubs in the world but not ready this year. About time he made his mind up and told us! Doubt we'l ever get him now. Yet another player not up for joining us

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08 Jul 2015 14:24:46
I think he would of joined us I think it was us that rejected him.

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08 Jul 2015 14:30:32
not worth the money quoted for him anyway. Was never my first choice.

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08 Jul 2015 14:45:57
Apparently money not an issue for us so if we are serious about buying a list stars to win us our title back we should be paying over the mark for players like hummels, Coleman, vidal, ramos, benzema(actually can't think of any a class strikers at the moment) but these are the players that will make a big difference and walk into the 1st team! If, thanks to Adidas, we have money to spend we should be throwing it at these players. But woodwork and lvg are happy to bide time, waste time and work off list 'b' and 'c' and lists that never even existed like the ramos list. We will struggle to win league if we only by depay, darmain, shniederlin.

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08 Jul 2015 14:56:30
Taken at face value, its nice to see that sort of loyalty from hummels as its very rarely seen these days

Looks like its otamendi or ramos, with one way more likely than the other

Cant think of too many other names, maybe godin?

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08 Jul 2015 17:42:13
Pep "yet another player" is a bit dramatic isn't it lol

Also, by your example Di Maria and Falcao were the right purchases last summer and the likes of Herrera would be on list b or c surely? The big, flashy names don't always pay off - is my point.

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08 Jul 2015 13:27:02
Banter please. Does anyone feel that there's a certain shrewdness present with regard the signings and potential signings? The irratic way in which felliiani and even mata were signed left them feeling all kinds of pressure, i'd imagine. Depay was a seamless signing and Darmian is a solid, experienced right back, albeit not so much in Europe. I think as much as Woodward has been lauded for his past attempts, he's slowly getting it right.

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08 Jul 2015 13:46:07
Lauded means praised which I don't think any of us have done yet. I remain to be convinced by Woody, the Ramos bid does not appear to be part of a thought through strategy and I don't think Darmian was 1st choice (I'm ok with that). Schneiderlin appears to be a simple deal that we are making more complicated than it needs to be. Time will tell

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08 Jul 2015 14:04:21
Yep completely agree Penfold, they are almost too sensible for United! If we continue in the same fashion and get Schneiderlin and then either Otamendi/Ramos, we've actually done very smart business, whereas last summer seemed to be, "we're out of europe, but look who we can still get", so I'm much happier with these deals this summer so far.

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08 Jul 2015 14:07:52
The only reason I'm glad we didn't sign Clyne, was due to his lack of technical ability. I've only watched Damian against England and he looked good. It was one game though. Possibly shrewd signings so far. I'd imagine most people would have preferred Coleman due to his EPL experience plus he scores a few goals too.

It was a steep learning curve for Woodward. Especially given that he had a new manager to deal with and build up a working relationship when Moues first arrived. Nearly 2 years on and things are looking good. Much will depend on who else we sign come the end of the transfer window. The proof will be in the pudding.

It will be interesting to see how he's handled Real Madrids attempts to sign DDG.

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08 Jul 2015 14:24:46
Totally agtee moved swiftly to sign depay when it looked like lpool and psg were in driving seat darmin mentioned vaguely in targeted players just vaguely looks like we have sealed that one all the deals that we were meant to be doing i think was just gossip be it false i think we will get ottamendi and schneiderlin and i think we will get a maverick signing be it a striker i think woody ia using the softly softly approach no more excuses of having to leave the club tour on urgent transfer buisness that's my take
excuse my shite spelling

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08 Jul 2015 14:28:16
Manager wanted deals done before pre season - this wasn't accomplished. The key areas we need to strengthen are the CB's still and CM still. Great we signed a good winger and maybe a good RB, but we have competent players in those positions so not critical - it should be the other way around.

We have signed nice to have players, not urgently needed. The spine is the key area so Woody hasn't accomplished Jack. For those defending him saying it's not easy to buy top class in those positions, whose fault is it? Who overpaid and over talked our position for the past 2 years, making us look like buffoons, his job is harder now because of his own incompetence.

I remain unconvinced.

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08 Jul 2015 14:31:24
Agreed with AJH

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08 Jul 2015 15:28:42
Beast, the club obviously had a strategy in place to get the targets that they wanted before pre season. Unfortunately in the real world it does not always end the way one would want.

We have made a fantastic signing in Depay, and it looks like we have acquired quite a good defender for a more than reasonable price in Darmian.

I believe Woodwards handling in previous transfer windows has damaged his and the club's reputation and other clubs have taken advantage of that. But I firmly believe Ed has learned valuable lessons and will start to show why he has been placed in such a position. I think we should give him to the end of this transfer window before we can truly judge him.

He has overseen some of the biggest commercial deals that sport has ever witnessed and put Man Utd on to a different level.

Just the fact that the media are putting us with everybody and anybody shows that nobody knows what is going on regards to transfer dealings. That is down to Woodward.

He has made mistakes but clearly he has learned from them.

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08 Jul 2015 15:29:17
i actually agree with beast, we should have wrapped up the 2 main issues, cb and cm then looked at rb as we have valencia and rafael if the worst come and we couldn't get a rb this window,

but there's still plenty of time to get them in, i'm still confident of us getting the players we need.


and unless schneiderlin isn't our first choice cm and that's the reason we haven't gone bk with another bid.

but with rvp looking like he's going we are going to need a cb cm and a st.

its got to be otamendi, schneiderlin and benzema

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08 Jul 2015 15:32:23
Is it just me who thinks there is still something going on under the radar? It's certainly not all doom and gloom by any stretch. Why do people think these matters are always a case of "I want that one!", and then the deal is instantly struck.

Although who knows, maybe there are deals in place and just some formalities are being Ironed out.

Whatever the weather, I am looking forward to what becomes us ;) 😈😈😈

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08 Jul 2015 15:39:53
Beast otamendi (if he is the CD we are after) will take days off after his international duty. Schneiderlin can still be done before tour. I don't think it has been a bad window. Unless of course you wanted all the signings in the first hour of july 1st.

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08 Jul 2015 15:44:34
I think whole Ramos thing (he is never going to leave RM) is a smoke screen for us negotiating for Benzema, using De ages as bargaining chip also.

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08 Jul 2015 15:59:48
I agree with Beast, so far we have signed:
Fellaini (at a higher price than buyout clause and fellaini had to hand in a transfer request)
Shaw (took a year to complete and paid massively for him)
Hererra (paid his own fee and forced through transfer)
Rojo (forced through transfer)
ADM and Falcao (touted by agents, impulse buys)
Depay (Club wanted to cash in, calls LVG his father so not much persuasion needed)

Id hate to see the list of failed transfers

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08 Jul 2015 18:00:11
Too early to judge Woody but I do prefer the under the radar approach to the brash splashing the cash approach, so let's see.

I get the impression many posters have an over simplified impression of how to make a transfer. Every club always wants their business done early but it rarely works out. City have been linked to Pogba, Sterling and De Bruyne for months and have an endless pot of cash, yet no major signings yet.

All sorts of complications can crop up in making major signings and I'm sure we're working on bringing in our targets asap. Why would we choose to wait out?

I don't necessarily buy into the idea of 'we're buying players in the wrong order' either tbh. I would imagine we work on multiple signings at any one time, some suffer complications and others run more smoothly - but I don't think its fair to expect the club to be in control of which transfer comes off quickly and which dont.

Having said all that I do hope we make at least 2 more signings before the tour (darmian and schneiderlin?) then a CB asap. If we go in for a striker I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen later in the window and the Ddg deal could drag on a while too.

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08 Jul 2015 18:49:48
Whoatealldepays

So how on earth are you going to negotiate a tranfers if you remove all those conditions?? The only odd one is fellaini. Agents cashing, clubs cashing, players cashing that is why there are tranfers in football isn't it?

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08 Jul 2015 20:32:25
PR the point i'm making is he is incapable of approaching a club who isn't already looking to sell a player and negotiate a transfer without a player forcing it through themselves. When you see the likes of chelsea who have nice smooth transitions and most other clubs for that matter. His track record as you can see above is the complete opposite. With the exception of the 2 loans above the players had to force the transfer themselves or being bum slapped for ridiculously high prices rather than woody negotiating with the club successfully for a smooth transition.

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08 Jul 2015 13:15:50
I am sure everyone will agree that even though they are our rivals that Raheem Sterling makes a full recovery from his illness. I am looking to start a fund to help him . So hope you will all dig deep and help with the "Save Raheem" fund.

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08 Jul 2015 13:46:44
I hope Coty sign him as his head is all over place. I don't think he will cope with the price tag or the abuse he will get.

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08 Jul 2015 13:02:20
Well after reading around about lacazette I think he will either stay another year at Lyon, move to PSG who crave that superstar french signing or if he's bound for the EPL then Chelsea will be his destination. If I was him personally I would stay another year and further enhance myself and guarantee a trip to the euros.

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08 Jul 2015 13:51:45
A French utd fan has already said that a few days ago that lacazette won't be moving anywhere as to not ruin his chances of playing in the euros

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08 Jul 2015 15:37:43
No offence devilFan, but smashing it at United would enhance his French selection. Jeeees 😎😘

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08 Jul 2015 15:40:32
May I ask why? Unless injury he'll be first choice? He's young, quick, great ability? If anything moving to Utd would boost his chances surely? Sorry, just don't understand by 'moving' clubs would have a direct impact on his international situation?

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08 Jul 2015 18:30:10
I agree ronnie but I suppose he's comfortable at Lyon and a move, particularly abroad could hinder him if he doesn't pick up the form at Lyon. We've saw it with ADM and many others at other clubs before sometimes it just doesn't click and maybe if he stays that's what's in his head.

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08 Jul 2015 12:58:33
So a lot of rumours of Darmian signing for 18 million Euros with 2 Million add-ons. Looks like he is in the bag, apparently will be announced tomorrow after he has signed his contract.

He has also wrote farewell message online to the Torino fans.

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08 Jul 2015 12:11:29
With RVP being very strongly linked to Fenerbahce, surely we are now on the hunt for another striker. Lacazette perhaps?

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08 Jul 2015 13:04:00
Everyone always bangs on about Lacazette on here but it doesn't seem like there is or could be any potential interest in him from us.

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08 Jul 2015 13:47:35
If RVP leaves, and if Hernandez leaves then obviously we will be in for a striker. Wilson should stay and play IMO but we will need another

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08 Jul 2015 12:09:59
Other then rossi can u tell me if we have ever had any other Italians at old trafford

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{Ed007's Note - Taibi, Macheda, Rodrigo Possebon and Carlo Sartori.}

08 Jul 2015 12:40:27
That is not a very happy list. Hope darmian breaks the pattern.

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08 Jul 2015 12:55:45
Thanks ed feel like a fool now i must say your quick off mark

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{Ed007's Note - There's nothing foolish about asking a question buddy, I knew Taibi and Macheda but had to search for the other 2.}

08 Jul 2015 12:58:21
Throw in Davide Petrucci and it gets worse!

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08 Jul 2015 13:00:49
Who was sortori

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{Ed007's Note - He was Utd's first 'foreign' player, a midfielder who played 55 games between 1965 and 1974, scoring 6 goals.}

08 Jul 2015 13:46:31
I went to school with Sartori's daughter for a few years when I was young. He was a nice guy from what I remember, too young to remember him playing tho.

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08 Jul 2015 13:48:07
Con con, 1 word, Google

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08 Jul 2015 14:11:58
Always thought Possebon was Brazilian, we learn something new everyday. Cheers Ed!

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mbd              

08 Jul 2015 14:27:53
mbd,

Weird one with Possebon, he is Brazilian but played for Italy under 20s due to his ancestory. As he was never capped at full international level I would suggest he classes himself as Brazilian as he has been back there for a long time now, but who knows.

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08 Jul 2015 11:51:26
I honestly can't believe how many people want to get rid of di maria, he's one of the best players in the world on his day! He will have his day in the PL next season if he's played in his preferred position(lw or lcm)and if lvg learns how to manage him properly

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08 Jul 2015 12:03:55
Top 10 player in the World for me. We can only hope this injury with Argentina will be his last for the coming year. Game changer when fully fit. Crossed my fingers he stays fit.

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08 Jul 2015 12:11:43
Good point and totally agree

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08 Jul 2015 12:20:33
The thing is he was still our top assist maker and I think he created the most chances aswell,

The fact he was injured a lot and benched a lot plus add the fact his family were practically robbed at gun point, a new leauge. and culture and he still managed to be top assit and chance creator.

You just have to see how he plays for the argies, if we play him out wide and have a mind set of fast attacking football di maria will flourish,

I wouldn't consider him a flop after 1 season, under the circumstances he didn't have a badish season,

Up until his injury and the stuff with his family he was on form

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08 Jul 2015 12:33:53
His attitude and general demeanour suggested he didn't want to be here. And the burglary is extenuating circumstances. If he has resolved his issues and is prepared to work then great.

However if PSG do offer 60 million, or if Bayern do offer cash plus players (latest rumour suggests schweinsteiger and gotze) then we have to ask him what he wants to do, because if he wants out or isn't happy then no point in keeping him.

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08 Jul 2015 10:57:14
So, United's unveiling of Depay is scheduled on Friday. Hope someone joins him, though it's little late I guess. The WAITING continues ;)

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08 Jul 2015 11:37:30
I thought he got unvieilled alresdy?

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08 Jul 2015 11:56:02
Apparently not at a press conference.

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08 Jul 2015 09:59:53
I see Madrid are singing a goalkeeper kiko casilla will this have any effect on de gea leaving

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08 Jul 2015 10:14:42
I think this means no De Gea - no Ramos. Casilla will be signed to replaced Casillas and DDG to be signed on a free next season.

I suggest we finish the deal for Otamendi now because if RM don't get DDG then we have zero chance of being allowed Ramos.

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08 Jul 2015 10:58:59
Well I for one think it's nice to see woody showing some balls. For far to long Madrid think they can just take whatever player they want

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08 Jul 2015 11:20:08
I've never heard anyone sing that one, what's the tune?

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08 Jul 2015 11:39:47
Sung to the tune of Delilah I believe

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08 Jul 2015 09:45:56
Has anyone seen any footage of Shaw? Just wondering how he has returned after the break.
Hoping.he has learnt his lesson from last year ando come back in fitter state.
If he can have a good pre season I think we could see good things from him next year.
Just think. A left side of Shaw, and Deepay. may need work as a unit defensively but would be scary.going forward!!

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08 Jul 2015 10:25:29
Brad,

I believe he came back earlier than the rest to do conditioning training and has shed quite a few pounds, I saw some pictures of him and he certainly didn't look as big as this time last year. If he stays fit he could be a major positive this year, having a settled defence is so important.

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08 Jul 2015 10:40:58
I hear he has losed a bit of weight and LVG is very hsppy with him.

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08 Jul 2015 10:57:13
He's lost half a stone apparently, hopefully he'll be used to the training regime now and can get a good run of games and start to look like the player we all know he can be.

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08 Jul 2015 11:24:36
Lost 3kg apparently

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08 Jul 2015 12:00:04
That's great. Good to see the lad has taken on board What LVG wanted. Let's hope he stays fit in pre season and Lvg puts his faith in him.

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08 Jul 2015 09:01:30
So Arse-nal want adm! Give him to them and bring sanchez the other way. Sounds like a fair deal !!
Adm is a good player but not suited to our league in my opinion. Time will tell. Hope I'm wrong.

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08 Jul 2015 09:11:35
Where have you seen this Nomidfield?

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08 Jul 2015 09:18:28
Its in some rag this morning angel. Load of nonsense.

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08 Jul 2015 09:20:27
Sure! Why not! Just give them Di Maria and get Sanchez. After all why won't Arsenal sell their best player to us who is on a long term contract and wants to play for them!

And while we are at it why don't we buy Courtois to replace de gea, Costa to fix our striker problems and Hazard to add some real quality.

A player who had half a bad season playing a position which does not suit him getting lambasted is a bit ridiculous. Not to mention he was used that way by a manager who played Rooney in midfield and kept Herrera on the bench for majority of the season.

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08 Jul 2015 10:49:07
redfaith
well said my man

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08 Jul 2015 11:11:54
Which position doesn't suit him?

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08 Jul 2015 11:24:10
Which position didn't suit him REDFAITH? I seem to remember he tried them all and was a flop in every one

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08 Jul 2015 12:55:26
He was initially played in midfield in the 3 at the back formation. He hit the ground running and had a good start to the season, I remember watching him in the early games and seeing real quality.

Then Van Gaal had this novel idea of playing him up front in that same formation the way robben was deployed at the world cup. It was a disaster since putting a player like Di Maria with his back to goal was never going to work. Then Do Maria lost all his confidence and his rhythm was disrupted and then he got injured.

He is a player suited to a fast counter attacking style of play, not the slow pointless possession we keep. In the second half of the season he was rarely used by Van Gaal.

Di Maria is a winger or someone who can play on the left side of a midfield 3 and that is where he should play.

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08 Jul 2015 15:50:09
Oh so what you're saying is because ADM played as a striker 2 or 3 times he lost his confidence for the rest of the season and forgot how to play football?

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08 Jul 2015 08:15:30
Really hope if we sign Darmian that he's proper old school Italian defence minded,we badly need someone that can defend a set piece, just hope Torino haven't sold us another dud, tiaibi comes to mind!!

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08 Jul 2015 09:41:20
Another poster (sorry can't remember who) compared him to Gary Neville. Solid, always a 7/8 performer no matter who playing against.
Have not seen him play but if that's the case I amhappy.

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07 Jul 2015 23:54:32
There's a big event taking place at OT on Thursday to celebrate the deal between United and Adidas. Whether or not this will have any impact on the announcement of signings - I don't know. I expect the new kits will be officially unveiled though.

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