Manchester United Banter Archive September 08 2012

 

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08 Sep 2012 23:02:19
okay, so I tried to post something this morning about Kloot and it didn't get through, mainly because it was a bit of a hate post.

I was annoyed with his silly little views but in all honestly It's not worth getting angry over.

all i'm going to say is that whether you're from Ireland, India, Ibstock or Iceland it doesn't matter. Being a United fan isn't about supporting our club, it's more than that it's about being part of a community, a global family...now families support each other and that is what we should be doing.

This I live closer to Old Trafford than you do is petty and honestly just seems like 'my dad is bigger than your dad'.

Kloot - You're entitled to your opinion but when they're reasonably extremist then please keep them to yourself. You're starting to sound like a BNP rep.

Everyone else - Ignore him, he's look for a reaction, keep supporting United but more importantly keep supporting each other and the rest of the United family.

Have a good weekend.

The Moon.

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Moon have i ever mentioned race colour or creed and yet you compare me to the disgusting BNP please explain yourself. I AM KLOOT

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Most united players arnt from manchester, dose this mean they shouldnt b part of the club?

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Kloot, I simply compared you because they have this silly idea that Britain should be british. you have a similar view about United - according to you, if you're not from Manchester you're not a real United fan.

See the similarity?

The Moon.

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08 Sep 2012 22:07:15
Fabulous piece of work it is a banter site I give it out so I can take as much as you want to throw. It certainly livened up a non United weekend and got lots of support from some Liverpool muppets. I AM KLOOT
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Is this your subtle way of telling me you Mancs have missed me? I have been away for a while RFT mate. But I promise to check in on you kids the next time I go to jail. I mean 'Safari'

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Thanks Blaire I was saying the same to your mum as I was shaving her back. Most of the people on this site don't get that it is a banter site and it is embarrasing that it takes a Liverpool supporter to get it. I know you will carry on giving me stick and long may it last and long may your mum always swallow. I AM KLOOT

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08 Sep 2012 21:11:11
Here's a question for everyone, who is the best player you have ever seen in a united shirt?

Caolán.

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Ronaldo.

G.A.G.U.S

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I am fairly young so I haven't seen the legends like Best and Charlton but I would say it is out of Scholes, Giggs or what I slightly remember of Cantona. Yes I would go with Cantona but I only remember his last seasons. Wish I saw George Best in his prime.

-JakeW

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Ronaldo is the best I have seen but my favourite was Schmeics.

Jono {Ed007's Note - Roy Keane for me, followed by Cantona and then Brian McClair. I totally regret not seeing George Best because of even what you can watch on the internet, TV etc and regret not seeing Duncan Edwards, to see how good he was, sadly there isn't much footage (or I can't find it) but I had an older uncle who compared every single player to him for years.}

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Best or Charlton 2 different styles only wish I'd seen Duncan Edwards

Pardoe

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Wow. Just wow, Ronaldo slipped my mind, what was I thinking? Feel like a person right now.

-JakeW

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Same jake never seen them players just clips but, when Ronaldo was on top form I think he was just amazing

Caolán.

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Without a doubt Paul Scholes.

Ronaldo could win games on his own.

Scholes could make the 9 other look as if they're winning games on their own.

The Moon.

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Moon

Scholesy was second for me. If I had been alive for the Charlton, Best, Edwards etc era I may well have a differing view but in all honesty the change in the game from decade to decade would make any comparisons null and void IMO.

Jono

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Ronaldo is a freak of nature. If you build a player from scratch, you would get Ronaldo.

G.A.G.U.S

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Best was so far ahead of his time, although the difference now is everyone is so much fitter and stronger. Ronaldo back in the 60s would have been unplayable

Best was pure magic Charlton had more time on the ball he always had space so elegant in his movement never rushed.

Pardoe

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"George Best was the greatest player in the world". Pele.

Eric was talismanic, Ronny was wonderfully flamboyant, Scholes, quietly brilliant....but none of them epitomised what this great club is all about better than Georgie boy. He danced past players on pitches like bogs, dribbling a ball that would be twice the weight of today's balls - heavier in the rain! He was constantly scythed down by tackles from real hard men, and stayed on his feet to dribble past them again. He had magic in his boots. He not only summed up the football that this club represents, he summed up a whole era.

Just a shame his light burned too briefly, but another quote always makes me smile:

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered". George Best.

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So caught up in the emotion, forgot to tag the Bestie post above :)

StevieK

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It has to be SCHOLES although i have not seen george best,bobby charlton and duncan edwards...i think duncan edwards would have been the greatest player of all time if not for the munich disaster....

PRATEEK

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Can we refrain from Pele quotes? The guy was one of the best footballers in history but he knows diddley squat about football. Controversial but true.

TK-Red

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Ole for me due to that goal. Bookedredmole

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Scholes

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IMO George Best was the greatest United player, the reason i support United and my love for the club has never changed.
Sir Alex found the player to give our fans the same feeling fans of my generation felt in the 60/70's when he brought Cristiano Ronaldo to Old Trafford.
When at Old Trafford and United are close to scoring, the crowd rises in anticipation, this would happen when Ronaldo or Best received the ball out on the wing, everyone expecting something special to happen. So for me it's George Best from the past and Ronaldo from the modern day.
I would give my left testicle to see Ronaldo back in our squad at Old Trafford.
Flyhalf(Mitch)

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Ronaldo in the modern era by far Cantona was great but could he really do what Ronaldo did for us? Best and Charlton are next but the likes of messi and Ronaldo are so far ahead of their time only people like maradona "fat" ronaldo and pele are in the same league.

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Everyone has forgotten Ralph Milne...

AJH

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The best player i have seen play in a United shirt is, without doubt, Scholes; an absolute genius.
My fav though is Cantona

Matlock Red

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08 Sep 2012 20:39:41
Ok children lets put this to bed as I fear that some of you are getting a little touchy and upset. It was a quiet weekend United weren't playing and I don't give a rubbish about England so I thought I would toss a grenade in knowing that it would get lots of response and abuse but at least it has made some of you think and articulate yourself and very amusingly in some cases. I know Blaire gets very upset as he is a plastic scouser who doesn't actually ever go to Liverpool so he is very touchy about the subject. As for the rest of you United supporters good luck to you whatever your post code is . If you would like me to discuss what i think of our new kit or who should be Englands right back I am only too happy. Please please please most of you don't go read any of United's fanzines because if I offend you with my anti Liverpool nonsence you would probably faint if you read them. There we are I hope I am forgiven and we can follow United together in Spirit if not always in mind. You are all my brothers and don't all families fall out. I AM KLOOT

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You don't need a name Kloot, all you need to know is that your views are outdated and Manchester United is a Global team, like Real Madrid etc. We have a massive following throughtout the world. The majority of the fan base do not reside near Manchester. That is not their fault and does not mean they are less a fan, than any that live in Manchester.

Manchester United are a football team and a business. One is no more important than the other. They both need each other to survive. Who owns Manchester United is not important either. Players are bought every summer transfer window and others move on....thats business. The fact that the Glazers haven't spent the same figures as Manchester City or Chelsea is irrelevant. We don't need to spend massively every season on overpriced players. The Glazers may not be everyones favourite owners, but the success has not ended under them. The way they have bought the club is normal business. businessmen do not use their own money....they use other money to buy businesses.
The way they run it, is their business....it's their club. They own it, the profits are theirs to do with what they want....like it or lump it....It's not your club, you just support Manchester United...they own it.

Football is football, you can't win the league and cups every year....as long as we do our best, that's all that counts. Competition is good for the game and having rivals like Chelsea and City will only improve United and the league.

As for players that have played for Liverpool or Man City joining us......why not. These players are normal people and are professional. They join clubs because of the history, wages and the chance to win trophies. I would have had a Gerrard or Torres at Manchester United anyday.....so if David Silva or Yaya Toure wanted to join us.....would that be bad....I think not. Football is a game....it's not more important than life, the moment you think it is....you've lost.

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The guy is good, credit were its due

Cban

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'plastic scouser' that's the nicest thing you've ever called me RFT mate.

Cheers

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed007's Note - That other thread has been deleted KLOOT, it should never have been posted. Anyone that is just abusing another poster will be banned. At least try to make points, debate or banter rather than stupid name calling and verbal abuse. Bullying or abusing other posters will not be tolerated, it doesn't matter ages or 'he's a big boy/man', bullying is bullying. Especially from a bunch of anonymous trolls. Thanks to the people who brought it to my attention.}

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You did bring excitement to the page I guess, forgiven for now I AM KLOOT ;)

-JakeW

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Ed007 you don't have to delete any posts about me this is a banter site. I take it for what it is banter and don't take any of it personally. I AM KLOOT

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08 Sep 2012 19:49:36
Have football clubs got any kind of insurance covering players getting injured that pays out to pay their wages or a percentage of it? {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

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Bet our premiums are ridiculous!

DodgyBanter

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08 Sep 2012 18:54:01
This might be an off topic... I like the idea of Brenden Rodgers playing possession football and I wish him all the best. It will take long time but it is the best way to play.
I was wondering what will be the style of our next manager. For me, I don't mind whoever it is but its important he employs good style of playing football... And I believe Sir Alex would help our club find the best guy
AJ

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UTD have had nearly ten years to decide on the profile of our next manager, compiling statistics, mentality, coaching phylosophy, style, ability to cope under pressure... the list will go on. We have been in the fortunte position of having years, not months of planning. I'd suggest we have chosen the guy, and if not, it will be a VERY small shortlist.

Whistler.

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Hey AJ - the problem isn't Brendan Rodgers playing possession football - he is probably very good at it - the problem is the rest of his team can't play.

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08 Sep 2012 18:11:35
think that defence needs to up its game, a loss to
everton and a lucky win over southampton just goes to show, now with jones out for so long they need to be on ball.

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08 Sep 2012 17:43:08
Regarding the Rooney interview. It was all sounding very admirable, until he said the best thing he could do to make things better, was to sign a new contract immediately.

The audacity of the guy - he holds this club to ransom, upsets his team mates, manager and fans, then 'apologises' by signing a new contract giving him an extra £100k a week! And the way he phrases it makes him sound like he was only doing it for us!

What a martyr you are Wayne.


StevieK

ps I'm just grumpy because I have a precious weekend off, and there's no bloody club football on - I've had to do jobs round the house AND go shopping!

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Give the lad a break hes said hes sorry he did nothing more than roy kean did were would we be wiyhout wazza the last few seasons out of the top four a red united fan

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Mete, if you're just worried about the next three points and believe that Utd winning is everything, then no problem, cheer away for the lad.

If however, you believe that this club is bigger than any one player, that it goes through good AND bad times, successful AND unsuccessful, but does so with pride and dignity whatever the result, then you will take exception to some wee scally bending said club over the table and pulling it's knickers down for everyone to see!

'Oh he's a great player', 'what would we have done without him when Ronny left'? Here's what - we might not have won a few titles. Hard to imagine, but we used to do that quite a lot, and guess what, we still carried on supporting the club. Surprised? But at least we could look other fans in the eye, and hold our heads high because we supported this great club.

Young Wazza trampled all over that dignity, as, filled with remorse over his actions, he ran to SAF's office (via his agent's) to apologise and pledge his future to Utd....for a small matter of an extra £100k a week. And people still find excuses for his unforgiveable behaviour....

By the way, I loved Roy - he epitomised the passion of this club, but I would NEVER have backed him over the club.



StevieK

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I agree with some of what you said but what would you rather have a player that comes out and says hes made a big mistake or somebody like nani who going to run his contract down and go for nowt modern footballers nowadays dont give a rubbish about the club just what they can get van persie didnt come for nowt its sad when you see the promising youngsters sticking two fingers up at the club every player we try to sign is going to try and get the best for himself or just go elsewhere thats why i said at least rooney came out and said he made a big mistake if ronaldo came back could you honestly say he would drop his wages just for the love of the club i dont think so a red united fan

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Red United Fan

I don't rate Nani as a player, but at least the guy was prepared to stick around when things were tough, and try and get us back. He's only huffing now because he knows Fergie is looking rid of him.

And if Mr Rooney was truly remorseful about his actions, he wouldn't have used the situation to pocket an extra £100k while he was at it. A simple 'sorry for being such a jumped-up Johnny bigballs, and acting like I'm the dogs b*******', would have sufficed :)

StevieK

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08 Sep 2012 17:37:39
btw whats this about kloot saying,if u dont live in manchester then u are not a united fan i live in norway and i love manchester united and i'm a big fan since the barclays premier league started,soo it is not nice saying that people outside manchester are not real fans i'm 100% sure that over 50% of manchester united fans do not even live in the same country as kloot,i loooooooove manchester united and will always love them and i wont be bothered(spelling)about what kloot our other people say.lets be positive guys and nice 2 each other and i swear that most of things in everybody's life will get better and we will have alot of trophy's 2 as a bonus 4 being nice and good citizens(people) cheers zee:)i always try 2 be positive and think about good things life is 2 short and i dont want 2 live by being bitter or angry 4 the rest of my life,have a nice day guys and edd's:)sorry 4 spelling something wrong(if u smile and are happy and a nice person,then life will give u something good back,i know that.

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Ignore him, he is just a sad little man who has some very short sighted and bigotted views. Personally I feel proud that our club can reach out and.touch people all over the world.

Shappy

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I can assure you about 95% of united fans live outside Manchester if you believe the fan numbers the club reports. That is why it is the club that it is with such a global appeal. Shahram (living in Dubai and loving it)

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08 Sep 2012 17:36:56
Can I just point out that I don't HATE scousers or their city of Liverpool. It's just LFC.

G.A.G.U.S

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What have i ever done to you G.A.G.U.S, like cant we just be freinds mate, lol............lfc

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Oh you must hate their whiney accents though GAGUS

Pardoe

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Pardoe

exactly right mate! It is the accent! How many times do you see a fit girl on telly, and then she opens her bake and that phlegmy, nasally whine sends dogs running to their kennels with their paws over their ears?!? :)

StevieK

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I AM KLOOT should get together with Curt on the Chelsea site since he too seems to rile his own team's supporters

Puzzled

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08 Sep 2012 16:49:42
Been watching the Scotland vs Serbia match, I think Zoran Tosic has been Serbia's stand out player. Its a shame he left so soon as I think he could have been an excellent squad player. Ah well. Also why the hell is Craig Levin wearing sunglasses? Is he hoping no one will recognise him. Lol.

Shappy

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Shapps

We are not bad now would you not agree? Lacking in CBs but good level of players across the middle but by god does Millar need to be binned. Rhodes all the way for me. Then we can challenge you I think haha

Jono

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Agreed shame about Tosic always looked decent, no patience though just like Pogba.

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Slowly improving, unfortunately I still think your best chance of qualifing for a major tourdament is as hosts. Lol.

Shappy

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I did see an interview with Tosic saying he forced the move and now decided it was a massive mistake by himself

Pardoe

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Tosic was at united for 18months and i think came on for 2 sub appearances. thats more than patient. pogba wanted money it wasnt about money for tosic he was training week in week out and didnt even get to sniff the bench so he had to leave, it is his career were talking about here. the problem at united is that we lose alot of players because we dont give them a chance. i honestly believe hes more useful than that pretender ashley young.

sulei

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08 Sep 2012 16:49:03
I shall now set the new guidelines and the eligibility criteria for being a Manchester United supporter. The following points are a broad framework but are not exclusive. Other points as Sir RFT/KLOOT may deem correct will be binding for all.

1)You need to be born/living in Manchester and no other place would do.

2)You need to be atleast 42 years old and born in an era when 'Pool were all conquering. If you were born in the 80's or 90's, look away.

3)You need to understand the entire Liverpool/United rivalry and that goes beyond the purview of football. It includes Politics/Geographical divide/Slave trade etc etc. Please contact Sir RFT/KLOOT for in depth explanation.

4)You should have visited OT at least 500 times and Anfield at least 299 times. If you watch matches from a Pub/Home you will be called a glory hunter.

5)If you wear a replica T-Shirt you are a muppet, no place for you then

6)You must utterly despise all Liverpudians and Scousers. Even ready to be up in arms as soon as u see one . And this includes your day to day life and not only football weekends.

7)You should have "ULTRA"ish feelings for any Liverpool/Leeds/Man City player who has come back to play for us. This is also intended as a public apology from me Alex Ferguson, i regret the day i signed Owen on a free transfer.

8)If you are a "delicate flower" and cant take abusive banter, stay away or man up. Sir RFT/KLOOT can help you do that.

9)If you think that Glazers are good/indifferent/I dont care and if you absolutely dont blame them for anything that happens at the club, start running. If there are signings that are made you still keep your eyes shut and only talk negative. You can slate me, David, and the entire management. But ensure you are there to criticize everything that happens.

10)Last but not the least, our fan base would only exclusively contain people from Manchester. if you are thinking about supporting a club thats more than a 100 miles from ur native place you are a tool. We dont need you.

Alexander Chapman Ferguson

(With expert advise from SIR RFT/KLOOT. Without his precious suggestions and attitude, we would never be where we are).

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And we thought you were having talks with Guardiola! Turns out you were with RFT/Kloot drafting this immaculate piece of work!

REDFAITH

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This post should be a pulitzer price winner 2012 in the non fiction/banter category lol..............lfc

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REDFAITH

Talks with Guardiola is a smoke screen. Behind the scenes we have all but managed to sign my succesor. It is a real coup, i must mention. And you would be glad to know that it is Sir RFT/KLOOT.

Alexander Chapman Ferguson

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Thank you Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson for clearing that up. Great read and love your work.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Best. Post. Ever.

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Fabulous piece of work it is a banter site I give it out so I can take as much as you want to throw. It certainly livened up a non United weekend and got lots of support from some Liverpool muppets. I AM KLOOT

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Mate, to steal a line from Blazing Saddles:

"you use your tongue better than a 20 dollar whore " :)


StevieK

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08 Sep 2012 15:14:53
This is getting ridiculous! If Nani hit as many crosses against the first defender as Valencia does, he would be slated. Nani has a plan B, and C, and D, etc. He's a flair player who can be inconsistent, but he creates and scores goals as well as any other winger. Once a full back gets used to Valencia's speed and works a way of dealing with it, he's out of the game. Young is predictable and can also be taken out of a game if there's a decent right back. Nani on the other hand can have a bad game but can at the same time put the ball in the net or use his trickery and pace to engineer space for someone else to score. He might be frustrating, but he's electric and offers far more than Valencia and Young.

I'd imagine he won't be sold, like I said he wouldn't be sold in the Summer. He'll have earned his place by mid October, providing he doesn't get injured like he has done in the past 2 seasons, he'll be one of our best players this season.

Percy

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Completely agree percy, valencia is brilliant but can be useless in games where he is sussed out and has nothing to do besides pass it back and give defenders a chance to get back. nani can produce a bit ov skill to get round a player, he frustrates me at times but id much rather have him until we get a replacement and im sure many would agree so why all the abuse, every player has strengths and weaknesses and good spells and bad spells, nanis just seem to get abused more, probably because he has all the talent which frustrates peopl but i think its also down to fergie a little but for not giving him proper chances abit like with anderson, sorry eds for long post

1991devil

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The only reason he wasn't sold this summer was because of his stupid wage demands, else he'd be gone.

He's been available the last 2 summer windows, kinda suggests Fergie doesn't want him.

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Percy

The writing is on the wall for Nani.

G.A.G.U.S

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When valencia has a bad game, he puts in a defensive shift, rarely loses possession, has a couple of good crosses, has 80 + passing accuracy, drags 1 or 2 defenders and gives more room to the central players, and gives rafael the freedom to roam inside and helps the midfield guetting the ball back while defending. Nani on a bad day is utter crap, cant give a single pass and loses possession often. Same goes for rooney actually, when he is not fit he looks so bad you get the feeling that this is not a proffessional. But rooney doesnt have many bad games. The same cannot be said about nani. I dont know why i dragged rooney into this but you get the point.
Mick

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Nani can't beat the first man at a corner says it all really him and Berba no matter how good are the two most frustrating players we've had in decades

Pardoe

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08 Sep 2012 14:32:55
CAOLAN, just looked at what you said about
best keeper in the world-de gea
best cb in the world-nemia
best young fullback in the world-rafael
englands best midfielder-clev
the best out out winder-toni
now caolan i admit i like a bit of banter , but please mate dont let yourself and your club utd down like this , it has taken me most of my lunch-time to think of a reply ,all i can say is there is medicines out there that could maybe help your condition lol..............lfc

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The medicine is watch Liverpool and see some real world class players.

haha sorry couldn't keep it in ;-).

Jono

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Maybe you should've spent that time reading his post properly as he never said we had England's best midfielder.

TK-Red

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Hi lfc - hows the relegation fight going?

mike

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Dont worry about us , lpool will rebuild this season and bring on these young players-
joe allen-the next paul scholes
jo shelvey-the next stevie g
kelly- the next john terry
sterling- the next john barnes
yesil-the next jurgen klinsman
suso-the next iniesta
assaidi- the new messi
borini-the new , well i dont know-borini
just watch..............lfc

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Didn't you spend 35m on a "world class striker" named Andy Carroll?

How can you even begin to attempt to slate our squad?

Liverpool have fallen from grace and are now a complete joke.


Philiphs93

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Well let's look at your team lfc,
Reina terrible
Johnson can't defend
Skrtel scared of the ball
Downing crap
Suarez couldn't hit a barn door
Gerrard done
Henderson words can't describe how bad he is,

Caolán.

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I hole for your sake lfc that you are joking on the last comment.
Mick

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Well caolAin, here goes- reina-hes still better than your keeper - whats his name-the lanky-one
skrtel- younger , and now a better cb than old - nemia, dont you think hes lost a lot of weight and strenght
suarez- scored 2 in 3 games, one of the most exiciting players in the world to watch, and unlike wayne chubby rooney will only get better
gerrard-saf would drop any of your players to put the gerrard in his team, you know it , and stevie has a couple of top years left in him
glen- johnston, while his defending can be sometimes poor, hes one of the best attacking full-backs in european football
downing- i hate to say this , but you are right on this one, hes nearly as poor as nani , i hate to admit lol..............lfc

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08 Sep 2012 14:12:57
07 Sep 2012 23:44:34
Devil Dust have you ever even been to Liverpool or Manchester. I AM KLOOT
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I see you're still running with the 'if you don't live within a 5mile radius of OT. You're not a real United fan' bullsh*t RFT. Somethings never change, eh buddy? You're still a bitter, twisted little die hard Manc (because you live in Manchester).

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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I feel horrible agreeing with Blair over a united 'fan' but KLOOT leaves me with no choice.

anon

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We all know Blair is a Liverpool fan right?

AJH

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There's more man city fans in manchester then united fans, fact. {Ed004's Note - actually a recent poll in a paper suggested otherwise if I remember correctly}

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55% of Manchester is red, 15% is blue. There's a fact for you. I do wish you children would do your homework and not copy whatever the kid next to you writes.

TK-Red

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Spot on Blair lad.

Whistler.

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Haha no name, good 'fact' that. Not true in any way shape or form. Manchester is mostly red, trust me I live here!

GDS

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08 Sep 2012 14:07:15
Phil Jones out for 8 weeks. Can someone tell me why our players are constantly getting injured a la Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling? I refuse to believe these injuries are run of the mill incidents. Is it the training, medical team?

Dan

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08 Sep 2012 13:56:35
Shrek 'The worse mistake in my career was putting in a transfer request'.

WOW!! The audacity of this low life is sickening but not surprising. If this was his 'worse mistake' then why not give back the extra 100k a wk he got with his new contract. Which he forced upon your club when he asked for the transfer request??

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Maybe next year your win the league blur?.......
Oh then there's the year after that.......
"Shrek" was the wittiest word in that statement.

Supasub

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Tbh I thought that his biggest mistake was cheating on his wife whilst she was preggers.

Philiphs93

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...or the ridiculous hair transplant...

AJH

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Or the 'I'll always be a blue' just before he left Neverton

Puzzled

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08 Sep 2012 13:52:17
Oh dear me, Jones is injured for 6-8 weeks, that's horrid news.

I thought he would do well in a defensive midfielder role when he comes back SOON, but so sad he's out for more further weeks.

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08 Sep 2012 13:48:57
So Phil jones is out for up to two months because of knee surgery, Surely we knew about this a few weeks back,So why didn't we get cover for him, yeah we got Buttner but he's a LB/LM we needed a CB cos Rio's at his best anymore speed wise or tackling. (TheInvisibleMan)

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Jones got injured yesterday when he had come back from back spasms ...... We still have Smalling and Evans to go along with Ferdy and Vidic

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Terrible news, sounds like it happened after the transfer window. I am not sure why we get so many injuries in training. this happens all the time.

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08 Sep 2012 13:23:15
I don't like all you children on here falling out, so STOP IT !

Puzzled

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I think you should post on the Southampton and QPR site.

After all your relegation battle is going to be very interesting. 17th ehh? All for the rodgers revolution.

Good luck mate! am sure u will take the Championship by a storm next year.

Deeps...

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08 Sep 2012 12:38:34
Morning Gents

First off, International Weekends wind me up, especially Friday night games as this results in me having to go into town wife the wife this afternoon, thanks alot FIFA!

Now, in regards to Nani, if Zenit who have splashed out on Hulk and Witsel are unwilling to meet Nani's wage demands this should tell everyone all they nee to know regarding Nani's attitude and priorities and people shouldn't question why SAF wants to sell him. He is a good player but if the attitude is wrong then it is time to go and frankly if people believe Anderson has failed to live up to the hype, I think the same can be said for Nani, bottom line is, he is not irreplaceable!

Now I stated that if selling Rooney meant getting Ronaldo then I would a couple of days ago and as much as I love the boy I still would, however I am delighted with his comments in the paper today and his interview in tv, if he genuinely means it then these are the players we want at the club!

Finally, I wanted a CM as much as the next bloke but in football the hardest thing to do is put the ball in the net and with RVP I think we finally have someone to do this who you believe will score every time they run out on the pitch, something I don't believe we have had since Cole, Yorke or Ruud! We have the players to get the ball to him and we have, I believe a strong defence when all are fit, had we had RVP versus Wigan or Blackburn last season we would of won the league. I also believe Cleverly will mature this season and SAF has said Powell is gonna be turned into a CM and then we got Tunnicliffe who I really rate and Pettrucci and other little gems so I think we are in a good position for CM, just need a little patience!

Anyway, just found out my dad once drove through Liverpool once before I was born so not talking to him now :)

Enjoy your weekend chaps.

Ports

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08 Sep 2012 12:12:32
Hello All, how did United get the class of '92 so right in terms of longevity. You had the 2 Nevilles, Beckham, Scholes and Giggs. All except Gary are still playing. Was it just a freak, or did they train them in such a way that kept them fit for longer. I wonder has there ever been a study conducted on this.

J Bones.

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That's a really good point. Having so many players come through together, who all went on to be internationals, who all played for the length of time they did, is unlikely to happen again. Nicky Butt has only just retired as well.

AJH

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It was just meant to be, a load of young talents who all became legends. Would love it to happen again within the next 10 years.

-JakeW

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JBones - a very good point - can someone supply the answer please?

Puzzled

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I think part of the answer is that we have the coaching they had at youth level and specifically Eric Harrison. The class of 92 was the most technically gifted of its generation and I dont think it is any coincidence that technically good players can play on for longer as opposed to those who rely on sheer athletic ability. You only have to look abroad to see that. Players from Italy and Spain have always been able to play well into their 30's and that is down to superior coaching at youth level. English football has made massive strides in catching up in recent years but IMO it all started with that side.

TK-Red

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08 Sep 2012 11:12:21
I have a gut feeling that De Gea may be a bit unhappy in England. Obviously just speculation but the way SAF has dealt with him and the things he is saying about other players/teams. I could be completely wrong and i'm sure people here will rubbish this but I can sort of see it.

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These rumours were always going to surface since SAF's decision to publicly criticize DDG.

J Bones.

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08 Sep 2012 10:11:45
This debate about Nani is pointless guys. The facts are pretty clear when you read what is out there.

1.SAF in his prematch interview before the fullham game says he will walk any player out the door once they have lost their passion for playing for united. Everyone starts thinking Rooney or Nani as both are on the subs bench after rubbish effort during the Everton game.
2. SAF come out and rubbishes rumours about wanting to sell Rooney but does tell everyone that he is unfit and needs to get his a....s in shape but not a word on the Nani rumors
3. Club clearly not willing to meet Nani's demands and no new contract extension
4. Zenit openly talking about trying to sign him and negotiating with him. No denial from club or player or agent.

Whether you love him or hate him, looks like the club is going to sell him and will wait for January and if a decent offer comes in he is gone, subject to someone meeting his personal demands.Personally, I rate him as above average and believe there are a number of better players out there that will fill the void once he is gone.

Finally, our success this season will have very little with how Nani performs and more about how Smalling, Jones, Evans, Buttner and perform as Evra and Rio are clearly in decline and how we shore up our back four. A solid back four will allow cleverly/anderson/carrick/Scholes to play a lot more positive and allow guys like RVP and Kagawa do their magic with Rooney/Young/Toni/Nani the interchangeable parts . Shahram

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I think it will depend on how well/fit Cleverly and Anderson play/stay. I'm not against selling Nani and bringing in a better player... Just against flogging him and not improving the squad. People say he's not Utd quality, but I disagree, he is well capable of holding his own against top opposition. But he does choose the wrong option at times, and his end product can be frustrating.

I think he needs more confidence, and to be a bit more selfish in terms of dribbles and runs, sometimes he gets shouted at by Rooney and seems to go into his shell.

Fergy does look like he's playing hard ball on his contract, maybe he'll have a number in mind he is prepared to give him, maybe he's fed up of waiting for him to develop and he's going to move him on. Just hope we get a new player in!

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I really think we will move him. If you look at Lucas Moura and the Hazzard saga, I firmly believe had we landed one of them Nani would have been gone. I also hope we sell to buy a quality left winger in the mould of Giggs (10 years ago) and not sell and bank the money.Shahram

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08 Sep 2012 10:09:05
So Jones is going to be out injured for a little while longer after picking up a leg injury on his return from back spams *sigh*

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For a big strapping lad he does seem to get injured easily. Let's hope it's an age thing and he gets over all these niggles.

AJH

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08 Sep 2012 07:58:49
Right first post in a while we have the a future best keeper in the world in our team, the best centre back in the world big nemja, best young fullback, England's midfield and best out and out winger in the world and best striker in the world.
GGMU

Caolán.

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I'll have a pint of what you've been drinking. We've got some players with real potential but best in the world is perhaps stretching it a bit.

AJH

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DDG - looks good so far. Great shot-stopper and wonderful distribution of the ball. He needs to strengthen up to become more dominant in his area and when dealing with high balls.
Vidic - Will he return to being the best in the world, I certainly hope so, but time is also catching up with him.
Rafael - debatable if he is going to be that good.
England's midfield - this gives an indication of how bad England's midfield's choices are.
Winger - best out and out winger but not best winger - totally one dimensional.

Looks like I'm a glass-half empty type of fellow and you are a glass half-full type.

To be honest, I rather have your outlook.

J Bones.

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England's midfield is rubbish. just sayin...
Mick

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08 Sep 2012 07:43:46
Everyone is asking who would we have played if Nani had left. It's obvious isn't it, we would have given his place to the world beater that is Bebe...

AJH

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08 Sep 2012 07:42:28
Kloot's continuing justification of his Liverpool rant is becoming tiresome. I was at Anfield in '92 on the day we lost the title and I have never experienced hatred like it before or since. It was the only time I have every been scared at a match. However, I also worked in Liverpool and most people were normal, pleasant, decent people. Shock horror, I even have friends who are scouts. Football fans can be nasty, offensive, vindictive, and sing the most appalling songs about others teams, their players, their tragedies and anything else that they think will get a reaction. But...they represent their club, not their city. To hate an entire town or city based on a football rivalry a is irrational and suggests deeper issues. Liverpool fans are extremely unpleasant, Liverpool people generally are like everyone else. Some good, some bad, some decent, some not. Can we move on now?

AJH

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Superb post mate! There are the "good", the "bad" and the "bizarre" everywhere. Time to move on.

G.A.G.U.S , what would you say abt RVP not shaking hands with Gary Caldwell after a Wigan win against Arsenal? Honestly, the Owen refusal to swap shirts was poor but there are way too many incidents like that.

Do i feel short changed for supporting RVP as well? Btw most of your posts are really good, except for the Owen thingie. But i guess opinions ....

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Totally agree. For example do you think players like Gary Neville who is as passionate as any United fan hate Michael Owen? Doubt it to be honest. Also SAF signed Michael Owen so does that now mean he should be hated? No because if you feel that way then it is frankly personic.

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08 Sep 2012 07:40:36
Saw someones opinion that we are not needed another small pacey midfielder and that we need a big strong powerhouse who could become our Yaya in our midfielder. Strong driving runs. Look no further than Kevin Strootman. Kept an eye on him ever since he was strongly linked with us last season and he has impressed and developed even more than I expected him too. At the age of around 22 he already has the build of Carrick but with the training programme we can put him on we can fit him to the EPL's needs. If you didn't see his assist last night it was excellent, 80 yds long ball perfectly weighted.

RedKnight

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08 Sep 2012 06:53:01
Daily Fail reporting Phil Jones recovers from back injury but then sustains ANOTHER injury in training?! Apparently left the training ground on crutches.

Can anyone verify this? Injuries galore!

Doc SK

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08 Sep 2012 06:35:22
A note beyond football:::Reports claim that the cut to Rooney's leg was within millimeters of hitting his femoral artery, which very easily could have killed him within minutes. Made me stop and take a second to think about how lucky he is, and all of us, that nothing worse actually happened. Best injury time result in the club's history, forget '99.-KG

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07 Sep 2012 23:44:34
Devil Dust have you ever even been to Liverpool or Manchester. I AM KLOOT

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Dear mr i am kloot
does that make you a superior supporter to the 330 million supporters worldwide?
does that give you the authority to pass judgement on other people
namely fans and players?
does it mean that you are a better supporter than someone who went to old trafford once spending a lifetime's earnings trying to get there that one and only time?
does the length of time you have been a fan make you a "diva" like the way you are acting? ie like a 2 year old spoilt brat?
ngiak waits with baited breath for at least an asinine reply thats totally unrelated to the questions asked
gan

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Well said gan the man

Robbo

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Totally agree gan, I go to every home game but I stil have the attitude of "even if 1 man is in china and has never been to a game in his life, as long as he stil feels the same amount of passion as I do, then he's as big as a supporter as a man who go's to every game" Everybody knows on here how stupid KLOOTS posts are.

Big Mac

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KLOOT you seem to think that just because you are older (possibly too old to be on some little internt forum) you have a higher level of opinion. The fact is, you are out dated, your ideals are out dated and you're quite frankly naive. I'm not suggesting you are, merely asking the question.... are you also racist, because you seem to judge people on what they can and cant do based on where they are from. You also didnt answer my question as you seem to go suspiciously quiet when intelligent posters question you. What do you think of Jack Barmby?
You embarrass me as a UTD fan.

Whistler.

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It would have been easier just to answer my question with the answer No. I am a typical glory hunting supporter who sits in the pub with my replica shirt. It is amazing how quickly supporters in the same position who have to defend themselves all the time for supporting a team hundreds of miles away jump on the band wagon and attack me. If you don't understand the Liverpool thing I understand you have obviously never lived in Manchester or Liverpool. We are very similar cities with a strong Irish imigrant heritage and the rivalry goes way back beyond football. I just choose to have a go at Liverpool and its supporters, Its called banter and i am sorry if it upsets some of you delicate little flowers who don't like nasty words and don't sing along with songs about Gary Neville hating Scousers because that isn't nice. Notice I have very little bad to say against Everton or their supporters who I still respect after Sir Matts death and their immaculate behaviour. Jack Barmby is a very good prospect. He does not carry the sins of his father. Robbo Big Mac Whistler You are the reason why Old Trafford is such a dead lifeless place with no atmosphere and just full of tourists. I AM KLOOT

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There seems to be a lot of this recently on here, people thinking they are better fans of OUR united because of location, season tickets, where they sit in the stands or even the country they live in, lets all stop for a while a look at what we all are.... we are all UNITED we have loads in common due to our love of our football club. lets try to stop knocking down other fans opinions of OUR great club. cause in the end we are all UNITED.
Chris the REDman

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I bet KLOOT actualy hasn't been to a game, he jus pretends he's a die hard fan

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KLOOT - obviously living in Northern Ireland, we're going to have to disagree on where 'proper' Utd fans come from. I wasn't born within sight of the old cotton mills, but following this team has cost my dad, and then me, thousands of pounds over the years, and we're just an ordinary working-class family - does that make me a tourist? Also, do we not pride ourselves on being a worldwide club, since the time of Munich when we received global sympathy and support after that disaster? Or are we just another parochial, small-minded team like Leeds or Blackburn?

I do however tend to agree with you on the Liverpool aspect. Don't get me wrong - I don't wish a meteorite hitting their city and engulfing it in flames. But for all Arsenal/City and Chelsea have been our main rivals over the years, it is still Liverpool games that bring out the worst in me. I'm a mild-mannered guy, who suddenly becomes this tribal, snarling monster during Liverpool games, and yes, I've probably shouted things I shouldn't have, and for which I'm always a little embarrassed after. I can't explain it other than the sheer joy of rubbing their noses in it after all their years of domination it seemed that everyone at school supported them too!

I guess this rings true throughout Northern Ireland, because these games are always the ones that have the pubs packed, no matter how meaningless the game is points wise. You can stick your City and Arsenal games - Liverpool is always the big one. Maybe the Irish connection is one of the reasons the rivalry is still so strong over here. I personally love it :)

KLOOT, I do fear tho, I might see you on the front page headlines someday, like Raoul Moat - you come across as a little tightly wound mate, relax a little :)


StevieK

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StevieK - I will forgive you since you are from a way off but at OT you would never have been in sight of the cotton mills - you are being just a tad stereotypical

Puzzled

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My bad - first landmarks I could think of to illustrate my point.

Consider me duly chastised.


StevieK

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