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25 Apr 2019 13:47:01
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25 Apr 2019 13:14:16
Out of curiosity.
if we could/ should only keep 5 players out of the current squad to rebuild performance and attitude for next season, which 5 would you all pick?
I’m struggling to pick 5, that’s not great is it .

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25 Apr 2019 11:29:48
Pogba in the team of the year. Only representative from a club that is not man city or liverpool.

Might not be as bad as everyone makes out or at least his peers don't think he's that bad.

I am sure he will get the praise and adulation on this site he deserves lol.

We need more players of his quality and ability not less.

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25 Apr 2019 11:41:32
We need players who respect their own teammates enough to put in the hard work required to dominate a game, and not just the highlights reel.

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25 Apr 2019 11:48:18
Team of the year? This is a joke, surely?

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25 Apr 2019 11:54:02
I'd put makka pakka in there before pogba, I'd definitely have put in one of the wolves players before pogba.

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25 Apr 2019 12:07:19
I'm speechless. About 10 good games and his fellow players have him in the team. Perfect example of style over substance.

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25 Apr 2019 12:13:04
Haters going to hate, potatoes will potate, read on this site last year.

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25 Apr 2019 12:27:30
There's no haters, just honest posters saying what they see with their own eyes, a guy with loads of ability just not interested in becoming a top player for Manchester united.

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25 Apr 2019 12:37:18
As i said i am sure the site will support their own player and give him the praise and adulation he deserves for what has been a good season.

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{Ed001's Note - you are very good at the sarcasm, only for a moment you actually had me believing you thought Pogba had actually had a good season rather than a couple of good moments in an otherwise dreadful, lazy excuse for a season!}

25 Apr 2019 12:40:56
Also becks is right, most posters on this sight have some sort of personal animus towards pogba, he has his obvious shortcomings but he is our best outfield player by some distance.

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{Ed001's Note - you really are good at this. You really do sound almost believable.}

25 Apr 2019 12:41:39
A guy with loads of talent, who thinks that this means his teammates should do all the donkey work.

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25 Apr 2019 12:54:36
I do actually think pogba has had a good season, and he is our best outfield player, although that is picking the best out a bad bunch.

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{Ed001's Note - you really have low standards if that is a good season. Is turning up with the right name on the back of his shirt the sole requirement for you to call it good? If so, I agree. If actually bothering to try is part of it, then no he hasn't. He has played at about 1/100th of his ability all season long, that to me is not good.}

25 Apr 2019 13:02:20
That is a fair point of view ed, he does need to up his work rate but i don't particuarly like the tropes that cone out on this site of him being lazy and flashy.

Poor work ethic could be attributed to every player in the squad but some get away with it on here.

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{Ed001's Note - Fred works hard, he is just total garbage (to be nice). Herrera is a hard worker too.}

25 Apr 2019 13:05:30
Pogba has more talent and ability than any other current Utd player. The point is that he does not utilise it correctly.

He ambles around the pitch, holds onto the ball too long and consistently chooses the wrong options. As a result we make criticism and expect more.

He should be dominating the midfield in most games but he doesn’t.

It’s very clear that for some time that Pogba has wanted to leave and that Utd have been interested in selling.

People need to get over this fact and let it go.

Utd will be better off without Pogba in the long term and that is how we must think.

He shouldn’t be in the PL eleven when you consider players at other clubs such as Wolves, Watford, Spurs etc.

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25 Apr 2019 13:06:53
He should have been dragged when Sterling out jumped him to win a header. Regardless of whether we had subs or not!

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25 Apr 2019 13:10:27
Read a good piece by a former player about how players chose who to vote for.

For the most part, players vote for the player they found most difficult to play against. If you are an average Premier League midfielder tasked with stopping Pogba then you can see why he would stand out. He is strong, he is quick and he has good ball control. He floats around the pitch and can pass a ball 90 yards. All in all, a nightmare to DIRECTLY play against as - even if he fails to play at his best - his style is a nightmare to play against.

Now he certainly has his detractors on here and plenty of the criticism is rightful. However, he is one of maybe 5 players in that squad who are actually Man Utd class. It isn't his fault that he doesn't fit the style we play.

Finally, compare Pogba and Fred. Both cost astronomical amounts of money. PP has scored plenty of goals and has a few assists despite not being at his best, being constantly slated by fans and the former manager whilst, largely, being used in a role he isn't a natural in. Fred, on the other hand, is - without a doubt in my mind - the worst midfielder we have had since the days of Djemba-Djemba and can't even pass a ball 5 yards.

Anyway, bit of a long post that went off on a tangent but, yes. Players hate playing against Pogba and maybe we would see his true value if he wasn't playing next to a hopeless competition winner like Fred who, truely, wouldn't get a game for any other team in the league.

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25 Apr 2019 13:13:41
2 ex players on sky last night, whatever we think of them, 2 proper midfielders in their day, now 2 honest boys who will say what they see, souness just sat back at let Keane tell it as it is about pogba,
Before the game even started Keane said I don't believe a word he says,
Souness was getting attacked for talking about pogba all season so he was glad to let Keane talk,
Now them 2 can judge a midfielder.

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25 Apr 2019 10:48:38
Morning to all posters and Eds. Not posted for a long time as i didn't want to upset posters or Eds. But here's my two pennies worth on the current situation and my wish for the future of the club.
Current situation is that we have a goalkeeper who seems to have lost concentration with all the contract talks and his annual wish to move away. Best shot stopper around, but lacks command, does not communicate, does not come out fir crosses, and pretty poor at distribution. I'll say thank you David and cash in on him.
The rest of the players, Rojo, Bailly, Jones, Sanchez, are always injured and have to go.
Young, Matic, Pereira, Fred are just not good enough, they'll have to be let go.
Brings us to Pogba and Martial, all the talent in the world but no application and generally can't be bothered attitude is an insult to the shirt and to the fans. Pogba in particular, has no future at United.
The future. Out of all the clubs i Europe, the club that has traditions similar to United for bringing on young players and trusting them is Ajax. They have a superb academy, they give youth a chance, and they play football in the right way. In addition, they have one of our own legends doing a fantastic job as DOF, Edwin van der Sar. The man is a legend, loves our club and is highly intelligent and clued on. If i had my wish, most of our transfer activity will be done with the present Ajax players.
De Ligt is simply the best defender around and at 19 is captaining the Ajax side. Veltman at right back, shackled Ronaldo completely, tough, no nonsense player with an excellent engine on him, and a good cross. Then we have de Beek and Schonė in midfield. De Beek is extremely cultured and can connect defence to attack, while Schonė is like a terrier and that's a quality we don't have in the cutrent team.
If we can add a right winger to the above four players and trust Mctominay as a defensive midfielder or even bring in Rice. Then the above additions will make a massive difference in the rebuild.
We have to get rid of the players who don't want to be here and the ones who are not good enough, and replace them with the Ajax nucleus i mentioned as they are used to playing with each other, plus a couple of the other additions and we will be on the right track.
I realize it is not a simple process, transfers are notoriously difficult to conduct in certain occasions, but we have to try. De Ligt at CB is a must to start rebuilding the core of the team. I hope the club goes in that direction.
Apologies for long post and stupid views!

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{Ed002's Note - De Ligt, Schonė and van Beek will not be moving to Old Trafford.}

25 Apr 2019 12:08:35
Nice to see you back AAA. Hope you are well mate.

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25 Apr 2019 13:14:39
Having watched McTominay really closely for Scotland and Utd I think we are misusing him as a DM. His height and physicality seem to mean he is shoehorned into replace Matic. However, the big man has quick feet and a real desire to get into the box. I think he is a more traditional CM who can go forwards and backwards. Certainly a lot more like a more attacking Darren Fletcher than the sort of strict Matic-esque figure some want him to be.

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25 Apr 2019 10:37:01
Hi Ed002, I remember last year there were mentions of the owners potentially readying up to sell the club. Do you know of any updates regarding this? Would be interesting to know if the glazers plan on sticking around or leaving the club in the mess it's currently in.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed. The club is in a mess due to a serious of self-inflicted wounds not related to the owners. If the club were to be sold institutional ownership would be the most likely or a floatation of part of the club.}

25 Apr 2019 09:23:25
Efc fan here, what is the general opinion amongst United fans about Lukaku. When we had him he was so lazy if he wasnt scoring he did nothing, we do miss his goals but I was never a big fan of his. On a separate note would you rather Manchester blue or Merseyside reds win the prem, I know it's a rock and a hard place.

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25 Apr 2019 09:50:44
The team does not play to Lukaku's strength.
We do not have out and out wingers in the team. And the fullbacks cannot cross. This is the current situation.

However, Lukaku still doesn't offer much movement. He works hard and improved certain areas.
Not top class but a good option to have in the squad.

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25 Apr 2019 09:51:34
Utd can do better than Lukaku, and if we want to improve we MUST get a better option. Chelsea may have done the right thing sending morata away, maybe utd can do similar but find a better replacement than Higuain.
City Blue - the lesser evil.

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25 Apr 2019 10:23:30
Big useless lump never good enough.

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25 Apr 2019 11:45:21
Feet are slow, and his mind is slower yet. But he does applaud every single pass in the box that he might have finished had he moved quicker.

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25 Apr 2019 09:07:50
I may be going against the grain here but I do not believe that Rashford and Lingard are good enough either. They flatter to deceive and give the ball away too much.

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25 Apr 2019 09:53:06
Rashford is still only 21.
He has lot of scope to improve. But there is no world class forward in our team to guide him on the pitch or take pressure off him.

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25 Apr 2019 10:11:28
I think Lingard is good when we are pressing high with intensity and on the counter. We saw this last night early on and in the first leg v PSG until he went of injured. But when we are not doing either, we are carrying him and this is the issue. A good preseason so the players are at the fitness levels that Solskjaer wants and so that we can maintain a higher tempo for longer I believe we will see a better Lingard.

There has been a lot of pressure on Rashford and I think we are seeing him burning out a little bit now coming to the end of the season which is resulting in his dip in form. Again, a good preseason, a mature approach to managing his conditioning and we will see a more consistent Rashford.

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25 Apr 2019 10:20:17
Rashford will make it. He is displaying all the weaknesses of a 21 year old; inconsistent, poor decision making, wanting to do everything. When he matures he will be great.

I also think he would do better in a better team. He is carrying a massive weight at the moment. He would mature a lot faster with the likes of Keane and Scholes behind him. We need to bring in better players - and leaders - to help him reach his potential.

Lingard i have a lot of time for but he is a squad player - a very useful squad player that works hard. He's just not good enough to lead the line of a team that wants to win trophies, but he is committed and scores important goals.

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25 Apr 2019 10:22:40
Totally agree pal on both of them but would allow Rashford time due to his age but Lingard is pony.

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25 Apr 2019 11:26:44
Rashford is 21 but he has been playing for 3-4 years at the top level in one of the biggest clubs in the world and in the England national team. Being young is relative and you can remain young forever if you compare yourself to an older player. He is younger than pogba who in turn is younger than matic. Add to that the selfishness and the rumoured attitude that he has. He simply doesn't do enough to be leading the line at a club like Man Utd.

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25 Apr 2019 11:46:42
Rashford’s issues are attitude related. He drops out of games if things aren’t going his way, and puts in half the effort if he isn’t played centrally. This is a result of not having any strong senior players setting a good example.

Lingard is a wasterman. Despite his mobility and willingness to run about a lot, he doesn’t have the talent to produce on a consistent basis. He is one of the club’s senior players now, and people still treat him like a 19 year old finding his feet in the big league. Enough said.

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25 Apr 2019 08:28:16
De Gea's performances of late is a worrying sign for us. He has been the savior for the past several years for us and everyone would probably ignore a mistake here and there, but it's the simple basic things he's been doing wrong of late on a consistent basis.

He seems distracted either by his contract situation or maybe he wants to move on or probably the most worrying thing that he might probably be regressing as a player. What do you guys think?

Would people be happy if we sold him and get someone on par with him and who can also command the box well?

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25 Apr 2019 08:44:53
Times up.

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25 Apr 2019 08:46:58
Seems distracted by external factors. Also herrera and mata leaving is not going to be good for him. May be it is best he moves on if he doesn't feel at home here.

He is the best player and asset we have at the club so it is definitely a huge loss if he leaves.

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25 Apr 2019 08:48:00
I think it's time to move on De Gea.
His heart is not here. He is one of the highest earners in the club which would free up significant wages if he is sold.
We may even get a good fee as well from the likes of PSG or Juventus.

Romero next season and slowly integrating the highly rated Dean Henderson would be a good scenario.

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25 Apr 2019 09:01:37
He’s prob been on Prozac with the shambles he’s bad to deal with in front of him the last 5 years, yes he’s made mistakes but these shots should never be coming in at him in the first place, poor defending, not doing the basics and DDG is getting labelled, is he more inclined to have a go at the defenders and midfielders in front of him, he’s a world class goalkeeper.

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25 Apr 2019 09:13:53
I agree that Romero deserves a chance, he has been very good whenever called upon and his distribution is pretty good as well. Probably selling De Gea now and spending money on improving our defense seems a smart thing to do at this moment, especially when he seems unsettled and we need to get rid of players who are probably not fully committed or have their heart somewhere else.

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25 Apr 2019 10:20:15
time to drop him. he looks woeful at the moment and i think Romero deserves a chance. I think his time is up too. Been wonderful over the last 5 years but its best for his career to move on. Also will save us a huge amount of problems in the future if we are stupid enough to give him the crazy wages he wants.

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25 Apr 2019 10:21:43
Think you have hit the nail in the head WRD. DDG has definitely been out of form this season but it's not going to help his confidence when his goal is peppered every game.

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25 Apr 2019 07:46:52
Gary Neville and Roy Keane made a very astute point on sky yesterday. Really knocked it out if the park.

Apparently senior players like pogba should be guiding younger players like lingard, negating the fact they are pretty much the same age. I think pogba is younger in fact.

Just because lingard acts 6 years doesn't mean he is actually 6 years old, he should be treated like a grown up not an adult child.

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25 Apr 2019 08:26:41
May be just need to get rid of mediocre players around Pogba, one's who can't even hold on to the ball or just can't dribble past anyone or the ones who can't shoot? Imagine playing in that midfield and you pass the ball to Lukaku or Martial or Lingard just to know for a fact that they'll lose the ball cheaply now you have to run behind to defend.

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25 Apr 2019 09:03:17
Pogba doesn’t want to be here and he also does not so the basic hard work required, why would we build a team around someone like that who will down tools on a whim, he is one of the most overrated footballers on planet Earth and i'd much rather 3 Scott McTominay’s in there than 1 lazy Pogba.

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Review Of The Day 25th April 2019

25 Apr 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th April 2019

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25 Apr 2019 00:03:22
I wonder and i am hoping that ole was holding back a few players for the chelsea game.
Mctom will surely start dalot and either one of martial or sanchez.
I can see no other reason to start andreas ahead of mctom tonight. a draw see uits chelsea i'm hoping that plays into our hands on Sunday. A win pots its right bank in the hunt for 4th miraculously enough. With Europa semis to come i don't think either will win all their games so if we do we could nick it.

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25 Apr 2019 01:27:38
It's amazing that we still have a chance. Pereira offers very little, not a presence defensively like McTominay and he cannot control the tempo like a top class center mid. A win Saturday and we actually have a real chance to get top four. Hard to believe after our last few weeks.

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25 Apr 2019 04:54:24
United, Chelsea and Arsenal are dropping points at will.
A victory against Chelsea would be massive for us.

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25 Apr 2019 06:09:12
A win on chelsea would put top 4 back in to arsenals hands, would still see us needing them to drop points. Also if one of them or chelsea win europa league does 4th place now drop to europa?

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25 Apr 2019 06:16:14
W16 no it doesn’t, wed have 5 teams in CL.

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25 Apr 2019 06:45:00
No top 4 for me even if we be beat Chelsea because of their superior goal difference. Why has nobody mentioned Son of Spurs for our right side not saying he would come but really rate him very similar to 3 lung park gives his all and has quality.

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25 Apr 2019 07:11:47
We are struggling to do the basics at the moment. We seem to have a lot of players who can't pass with any accuracy. The amount of times in the last few weeks where someone has misplaced straightforward passes is unreal. We also have forwards who can't hold the ball up, defenders who don't close down properly and unfortunately a goalkeeper who looks distracted and is making mistakes he shouldn't be. There seems to be a fitness problem where Ole wants to play at a higher tempo but the players can't do it. That's obviously quite hard to change mid season though.

It really is a mess and the entire club has a huge amount of work ahead.

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25 Apr 2019 09:04:32
5 English teams can go into CL, spurs would also have to win CL and finish outside top 4 for 4th to be EL spot.

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25 Apr 2019 10:22:37
blackpool - son would be a dream. no chance of us signing him though.

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