Manchester United Rumours Archive August 10 2014

 

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10 Aug 2014 21:16:50
A newspaper reporting LvG has told 5 players face to face between 2pm and 4pm saturday that they need to find new clubs before the transfer window shuts.

Nani, Anderson, Fellaini, Rafael and Hernandez.

What does everybody make of this?

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As far as i'm concerned all of them can leave but a replacement for Rafael would have to come if not i'd be worried about right wing back

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No surprises there mate if I am being honest.

It's the incomings I am more concerned about.

Hummels, Vidal and Di Maria would be nice.

But I'd settle for Benatia, Vidal & Cuadrado.

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Mata's Beard,

RWB - Cuadrado/Valencia/Janko

LWB - Shaw/Young/James

If we sign Cuadrado then I think we will be well stocked.

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10 Aug 2014 22:23:05
I'd prefer hummels, Vidal and cuadrado.
Did you see earlier Dortmund have named hummels captain today, weak attempt to try guilt him to stay? He wasn't in squad today is he still on a break or injured, or does it look like he's definitely going somewhere?
If we don't get Vidal I think we should keep fellani until jan, at least he can tackle and put himself about a bit when required compared to fletcher and carrick.
I'm a bit surprised about rafael, thought this would be his season but his injury record is terrible so can see where he's coming from. Rest of them can happily go.

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Lee, I agree about the guilt thing, they have also made Reus vice captain. Another one of their players who is open to a move.

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Lee - Do you honestly believe they would announce him as captain without discussing it with him first?

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Redseven, do you honestly think Hummels hasn't been in line for the captaincy for months?

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Imagine how bad it would look if they just made him captain and then sell him, he defo not joining us now I have no hope for him coming, so best to find a different centre back

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Welbeck should have been first on that list.

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Sorry but I think Welbeck is going to be instrumental in our success this year, he really adds something to our attack with his pace, his finishing needs to improve but in no way shape or form does he need to leave.

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11 Aug 2014 09:20:40
Rafael is the surprise but maybe he did not put the effort in with van gaal as well as his injury record. I do think we need to bring in a natural right back from the young players, maybe vermijl or janKo will get a shot as I amember sure we will play 4 at the back some time this year and don't really want to see Jones/Smalling/valencia there.
Interestingly Keane has been mentioned as well.hopefully just a loan move. May indicate that Blackett out performed him and may step up as cover.
Glad we are keeping shinji, not sure where he fits in but good player and also good for marketing purposes!

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Welbz should defo not be on that list, I think he's going to be a changed player under LVG. He has muscle and pace, sorts his finishing and final ball out. Watch him go, what do you think Ed?

Stu

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I think he is a woman trapped in the body of a 14 year old boy.

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Southampton will have Hernandez ;)

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I think clev should be in that list

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I think Benatia/Blind, Rojo, Vidal, Cuadrado, Di Maria and Depay are somehow done. We definitely have done deals but maybe the Manager wants to have them all in and present them as a group. The strategy could be to do with price hikes if there is arbitrary announcements. Otherwise we shoudn't have released 5 first team players at once on saturday.

All the same hope LVG has a plan and its to win us the EPL and FA Cup in his first year.

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I agree, can't see LVG letting five first team players leaving without having anything in place. That said its getting very close to the first game of the season. However, as stated above he might be waiting to present them all at once. Fingers crossed.

Stu

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LISTON,

Please send me some of the drugs that you have been taking, if you think that United will be signing 6 of the 7 players you listed there whatever you are on could be just the thing to cure this toothache that is killing me.

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10 Aug 2014 19:45:00
Michael Keane set for a season long loan to Cardiff. Looks like we will sign a CB then?

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Would be a good move for him. And yes that means we will be signing at least one CB. Or a top CB plus someone like Blind who can play CB.

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I was hoping to see him go on loan to a Premier League club.

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PR, I agree, I thought Cardiff were Still in the Prem. DUH!

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10 Aug 2014 16:00:52
Ed002, I do not like to put you on the spot, but will do on this occasion. Do you think MU will spend big in the next few weeks?

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{Ed002's Note - "Big" is subjective Syd. To a mouse, a dolphin looks big. To me, your ass looks humungous.}

Syd, why are you always hell bent on us spending massive all the time.
We need players but we don't need to throw loads around.
For instance £55m for Di Maria, def not worth it

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From what I heard Syd is rather svelte

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Melwing. because in football you get what you pay for. Top players cost big money! What's your idea?. spend £20 on a centre back from Barrow AFC?9

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I think its more about seeing the club follow through with the promises. Ed Woodward does himself no favours at times, but he is in a lose lose situation at times. If he doesn't say these things then he is accused of being weak and Glazer puppet etc. He does say them and then the UTD world is waiting for something to happen.
The lack of visual activity is worrying, but there is still time and we all hope that its not de ja vu from last season.

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Melwing28 it's not about spending massive. it's about bringing the best players in what we can. And if it means paying over the odds we have to do it. We can't afford to buy potential,, we need the best, di maria would be a great buy. We can't afford another bad season,

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I think that was Sydney asking in a roundabout way about that player from Juventus can't think of his name.

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Spending big does not guarantee success or trophies however it gives you the best possible chance. Real Madrid 10 Euro Cups, Man United 3, pretty much sums up what lack of ambition and investment does. No one is saying we would have won more if we would have spent more but we would be giving ourselves a better chance, had we invested correctly after loosing to Barcelona twice if we did!

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Very good Ed, very good indeed. Okay then, do you think we will sign two or more players in the next few weeks? Thanks.

Oh and my missus says I have a peachy ass. But I guess she's biased :)

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

Lol Ed. what if we pretend we are the biggest club in the world. Are we set to spend big in your opinion?

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{Ed002's Note - I pretend you will.}

10 Aug 2014 19:26:17
Should we expect any new signings Ed002? Has there been any news of United tabling (not preparing) a bid for any kind of player at all?

Apologies if this is vague. A yes or no would suffice to each question.

Cheers!

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{Ed002's Note - Twelve.}

Haha Ed I like, do you know of any other bids that have went in other than the Vidal/vermaelen?
Have we shown any interest in more wingers other than Di Maria and cuardao?

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Mel, I was trying to see if Ed believed we were going to be busy. If he thought we were going to be busy then it's a good indication that we will be. After all he knows the players we are contacting and enquiring after behind the scenes.

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10 Aug 2014 22:27:20
Di Maria would not be a great buy at all for 55m mclovin! He's a glorified nani but triple the price, I'd rather him play januzaj than buy di Maria and put the money where it's needed

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Isn't 002 a she syd?

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Whoah there boca 1978 I'm from barrow n we used to have Steve mcnullty in his prime (18st) surely he'd go for big bucks now if luiz is worth 50 mil ha? It'll hot up this wk and whatever there worth/cost I have every faith in lvg

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Boca, so paying £27m for fellaini made sense? Paying just under £40m for mata?
You can buy great players for cheap prices. Buying top players and spending heavily doesn't mean you'll win anything. Or as above, paying silly prices for players who are not worthy of that price.
Say for instance if we bought Di Maria, £55m is a absolute joke for starters, he also is very inconsistent, he also gives the ball away ALOT, plus where would you play him?
I'd rather get players that'll fit into the system rather than hoping they will.

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10 Aug 2014 19:26:30
Ed002, are United still trying hard to get a deal done for Hummels or have we moved on to other targets now?

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{Ed002's Note - Dortmund has made it clear they wish to keep Hummels so the chances of a move have gotten slimmer. Manchester United will need to look elsewhere, as will Arsenal who have turned their thought to Veltman.}

I'm with Melwing on this.

United aren't the type of club who buy the real big-name players, the "marquee signings", as a general rule.

Instead, we buy the good players who fit.

This way works better.

Chorltonred11 compares Utd's 3 Champs league to Real Madrids 10, but if you look at the last 20 year's, Utd have bought the players who fit, Madrid have bought the biggest names, yet Utd have won 12 league titles to Madrids 7, 7 domestic cups to Madrids 5, and only in the champions league have Madrid done better, with 4 to our 2.

That tells me everything I need to know about which approach is better.

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Chorltonred11. you do realise that Madrid spent something like £800+ million since they last won the champions league before last seasons victory.
We have also won the league many times compared to Madrid.

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Looking at what has happened with "targets" and how they have panned out up till now, I think we will get a couple of players in before the deadline but. not the, Di Marias, cuadraro's or hummels that have been rumoured.
Probably more like the De Jong, Vlaar players that will see us till January, then possibly a galactico or 2. Really, not sure if there is as much available to spend with the glazer, business heads possibly wanting to balance the books by offloading at least 5 players to rake back in some of th60m already spent.

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When and where do mice and dolphins meet?

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Cookyman - the Glazers aren't restricting the money spent. People have been blaming them for years now, but if you look across their businesses, the Glazers are perfectly willing to spend big, and they know that you have to spend money to make money, especially in sport.

They understand that spending an extra £10-20m to get a top player instead of a mediocre player could make the difference that earns back several times as much over a few years, in commercial revenues and prize money.

If we aren't signing anyone, it's because the manager can't get the players he wants, and he isn't going to waste money signing players he doesn't want just to please ignorant fans.

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Thorne- they got it right with fellaini yeah?:(
Man utd as well as every other club don't always get it right but agreed they do get players in that have proven their value time and time again.
my point was/is that the rumoured big names seem to be not coming to fruition and that some (seemingly lower in value but not necessarily in talent) signings may be imminent until the manager can get who he wants/when they become available.
obviously wasnt aware that you were in the know as van gaals press officer though!

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Fellaini is an example of what happens when players are signed just for the sake of "look, we signed a midfielder!" instead of the usual careful selection of the right player.

Obviously, United can get it wrong sometimes anyway, but we aren't a club that generally signs big-name "galacticos", so a lack of big name signings is normal and not noteworthy in any way.

I'm not "In the know" at all, but I used to work in finance and I know a little about business, and unlike many, when everyone started blaming the Glazers for our moderate spending a few years ago, I researched a bit about how they operate their businesses, instead of jumping on the band-wagon.

After that, realizing why we haven't spent a vast amount yet is simple deduction.

Famously stubborn manager + injured favorite (Strootman) + seemingly unavailable target (Vidal) = lack of transfer activity which has nothing to do with penny-pinching by the owners.

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10 Aug 2014 12:20:25
Ed002 is there any interest in jan vertonghen?

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware - he has been considering a new deal.}

10 Aug 2014 12:35:24
Nothing conclusive; but a fan in Aus got Vidal to sign a Manchester United shirt.

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Has it got that bad waiting for players to sign things like this get posted

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And your saying it was a contract in disguise?.

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Dustbin - I'm afraid it has. It might not mean much (I recall Thiago signing a United shirt last season before moving to Bayern) - but apparently at the same time he was offered a City shirt to sign and ignored it. I imagine most players being strongly linked with a club they weren't interested in moving to would avoid publicly signing the other teams shirt.

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All I think is if the club was going to buy him they would of by now, rumours have dragged on for so long I think there's nothing in besides twitter and paper talk

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Dustbin, you do realise that last week MU made a bid for Vidal, don't you?

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Dustbin - How long were we linked with Shaw and Herrera before we eventually signed them? The same goes for Fellaini, Berbatov, RVP and Hargreaves in recent times. If there was no interest the rumours would have died away.

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Anyones name on the back of the shirt?

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Who says there was a bid? He's agreed 3 different contracts, had 2 medicals and been involved in swap deals for evra, nani and hernandez, the deals been on and off 5 times . I don't think any bid has gone in at all as it would of been agreed or turned down

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A bid has been made Dusty. It was made via a third party representing MU. It seems there's a standoff between club and player. I hope it can be resolved.

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Not sure how you could possibly know Syd, Herrera was signed without any rumours at all, nobody heard about that yet claims of knowing about what the club are up to when it comes to vidal, twitter is full of these stories of agreeing a contract and his agent submitting the offer and I don't believe any of it as the story has changed soo many times

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Dusty, the editor has confirmed it. That's how I know we have bid. Nobody knew about Herrera because we were not talking to Bilbao. We activated a clause.

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12 Aug 2014 16:22:46
Ed002, can I ask who the other bidder for Vidal was? PSG? It will be quite worry if it is them. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich to replace Tony Kroos.}

That's even worse, do you think (in your opinion) that we are favourites right now?

I won't bother you again with this topic. Thanks.

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