Manchester United Rumours Archive November 10 2011

 

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10 Nov 2011 09:18:02
the mail is reporting that vidic will be sold in the summer as fergy feels he is no longer committed to the club
jred

 


Herd that messi is coming for 200 million and we are getting heskey for 1 million


Definitely want to beat arsenal, no matter what form of winning it is.. C'mon lads

Ozwald


Is this like the longest thread ever?!!! lol


Shappy

P.S. i can see the irony of my post. lol {Ed007's Note - It must be getting there by my reckoning, there was a monster thread on Arsenal during the window but I can't remember how long it was.}


Tk
thats the thing if i could see a younger player out there to buy i would maybe be tempted to sell but i dont see any one better than young and jones and over the next 2/3 years while they hopefully make that step up in class i dont see a better player than vidic to play alongside them
jred


Thats why I said its not about the money jred. The way I see it there are 3 points of view. A) We keep Vidic and he continues to lead our defence and help along the younger lads then he either retires or leaves for a nominal fee in his later years at which point Jones and Smalling should be ready or B) We sell him for £20-25million now, bring in someone like Cahill to rotate with Smalling, Jones and Evans and spend the money on a top DM to help protect the defence C) We Sell him for £20-25million now and spend that money on a direct replacement but someone who is a good deal younger than Vidic, someone like Hummels. Now personally I would be quite happy with any of those choices. My initial point being that selling Vidic wouldnt be the end of the world and would be a win/win scenario.

TK-Red


Tk
i agree its not a ludicrous idea it actually makes good business sense but we shouldn't have to sell to buy
jred


Maybe so but if his sale enabled us to improve the team as a collective then it shouldnt be dismissed straight away. Im not talking about getting shot of him and not bringing in a replacement, but again you can do alot of good with £20million. All I am saying that it isnt as ludicrous idea as it first sounds.

TK-Red


TK

How many goals have we conceded this year when Vidic was on the pitch? How many when he wasn't? He is the difference between our defence being average and great. His leadership and organisational skills are worth as much, if not more, than his talent.

Danny Pughnited


Tk
how much is he worth to us over say the next 3 years if he helps us win the euro cup
jred


Whilst I dont believe this story for a second, and with the risk of sounding controversial, would it be such a terrible deal if we sold Vidic for £20million? Yes he is a great player but he doesnt have quite the same impact on the side as he used to and £20million is alot of money for a player nearing 30. Some United fans say "why didnt we take £10million for Ferdinand when we were offered it"....I just hope we dont find ourselves asking similar of Vidic. And its not even about the money as such, its about where the money could be spent improving the team.

TK-Red

(97)


Its worth 25 mill to keep him for the good effect it will have with jones and smalling cant think off a better cb in world football to bring them through
jred


94. Vidic ain't going anywhere! Daily Mail! Nuff said.

G.A.G.U.S


Wot top class cb could u get tho who wudnt cost more than £25million? That sakho is good but psg don't exactly need money. I dunno who we wud buy. Like an earlier post sed, cahill wud b good for free I supose

Big Mac


93. Come on, let's get to 100.

G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - That's cheating you.....


92.

G.A.G.U.S


91.

G.A.G.U.S


If its true that madrid are willing to pay 25 mill what do people think should we sell him 25 mill is a lot of money for a 30 year old....
for the record i would keep him i pay my money to watch players like vidic not boast about how much money we have in the bank
jred


Read that all over the internet real madrid want to buy him for £25m and thts a good deal for someone who isnt happy and is 30 years old {Ed004's Note - How do you know he is not happy?}


Very well put 'Tk-Red', definitely agree with you there. The other thing that would make it hard to develop there is the attitude of most of the players, i've said this before but i really can't stand it! They're so big on being dramatic and putting on a show, 60% of the players have too-bigger ego, the coaches and staff don't always act as professional as they should, this is only my opinion but it does seem to show, i mean how many young talents have we seen come through the youth ranks at Real? and stay successful in their first team.. It's just unheard of..

I think i just really hate real/barca! haha

Ozwald


Madrid has tended to be a careers graveyard over the last 6 years or so. The constant change of manager brings a constant change of ideas and philosophy which in turn brings in the most recent flavour of the month to the playing staff. Of course I am biased so I would say this, but at United the aim is to win atleast 1 trophy every season, whether it be League, FA Cup, League Cup or CL. Do that and you have to call it a successfull season. At Madrid you may get the glitz and glamour but they struggle to be consistent season upon season. We cant expect everyone to want to join United, it would be arrogant to think so, but its plain to see that are one of the best clubs in the world for a young player to come and progress. SAF has always said of any young player at the club, be it an academy graduate or someone who was brought in, We try and give them the best possible footballing education to give them the best chance of making it at Manchester United but even if they dont quite make the grade they can still have a good career in the game.

TK-Red


Forget Madrid I have heard they will sell him to Anzhi


Oh yes, completely forgot about him! Did you see his funky chicken leg goal volley type thing? you'll know what i'm on about if you have.. ;)

If i'm honest Lens sold him much quicker than i thought they would.. There was a lot of speculation then it felt like he signed for madrid the next day! I know we were seriously interested in him, sad to see another youngster join real.. really isn't the best place to progress at his age, could be risky..

Ozwald


Ozwald

Madrid have done the same more or less. They signed Varane last summer and that lad will be top class.

TK-Red


Subotic said himself that is is not the type of defender that Vidic is, forgot what word he used now although i think it was 'bruiser' . He is more like Rio, better on the ball. Since he said that himself, i've thought he's not the guy we need. Don't get me wrong he's talented. I think i'd much prefer to see his teammate Mat Hummels who subotic describe also as a 'bruiser'. However the fact of the matter is Vidic is 30, and the way he goes about defending is phenomenal but could see injuries popping up more often . We all know that Fergie likes to plan ahead, and look to the future. I don't know why Real madrid wouldn't be doing the same and looking at younger talent e.g - hummels etc!

Ozwald


Not forgetting that Subotic would probably cost the entire fee we would bring in for Vidic and, to my mind, it doesnt make sense to bring in someone who isnt half the player we have sold. In the unlikely event we are to sell Vidic then we would be much better off bringing in Cahill on a free. Sure we wouldnt have 1 standout CB but rotating Smalling, Jones, Cahill and Evans could work and it would be a low risk move due to the lack of a fee. The money generated could then be spent on someone such as M'Vila, someone to help protect the back 4.

TK-Red


You have to remember that Mertesacker is another defender very similar to Subotic, and even more experienced, who did very well in Germany but has been awful, so far, in England. We have two young centre backs and we don't need another one, what we need is a leader like Vidic who can guide our young defenders for the next few years.

Danny Pughnited


12 Nov 2011 12:08:50
wow they really are trying to go somewhere with this one..

www.ibtimes.com/articles/248163/20111112/manchester-united-transfer-news-red-devils-agree.htm

oh and 'yanksaw', four lions is epic, the guy from face/phone jacker makes it! ;)

Ozwald


I wouldn't sign subotic. He's over rated for me. He's jus big that's all. Not a gud defender. Kinda like samba. We wudnt need to buy someone to come in we wud need a back up cos we've got smallings n jones. There is no way I'd sell vidiv tho. Sydney is right with all his posts btw.

Big Mac


If you could get 20 million in and sign subotic who'll 23 by next summer for a 30 year old yeh id be happy with that


"Ozwald"
Yes I have seen "Four Lions" and it is a great film.

YankSAW


Seriously.. why haterz gotta be hatin'?
just to see if we can raise the bar on this one, has anyone seen 'Four Lions'?

Ozwald


Edd 007 i thought syd was the meaning of life
jred {Ed007's Note - No, Syd told life what it meant, there's a difference.}


I never followed the Stam exit story closely at the time but I must say I always found it strange how soon he had been found guilty for drugs after being quickly shoved out of OT!?

Regards


Depends what day of the week it is.

Sydney ;)


Is Syd male or female? {Ed007's Note - Neither. Syd is The Force they speak of in the Star Wars films.}


'rpc'

I know mate, just trying to reach 100 posts ;)

Sydney!


Rpc

I was in no way questioning your reasons for believing this could happen in fact I am actually in agreement with you and that is why I got involved in this discussion and aimed it at SYD cause I felt you had a point and dismissing it out of hand like Syd seemed to be was wrong.

Devil Dust.


Eds, does this post have the most replies to it ever? {Ed002's Note - No.}


This is not a rumour. This is someone just made this up and posted it on here.


Rpc

As I said there were a few theories as to why Stam was sold, from several things that Stam wrote in his autobiography to a somewhat darker story that relates to Stam's failed drugs test whilst at Lazio. What is certain is that Stam was one of the best CB's in the world at the point he was sold and whilst some might believe that SAF saw a player in decline and lowering stats, IMO, this theory just doesnt fit in when you look at the history of SAF and his defence. Stam was 29 and still a top class player and yet SAF has kept faith in the likes of Bruce, Pallister, Berg, Ferdinand all well into their 30's. If Stam was sold due to age and decline then why did SAF go out and sign a 35 yr old veteran, whos legs had gone, as his replacement? It just doesnt add up. Everything points to a problem with the player, be it with SAF or otherwise. The name of the guy who wrote the article about Stam's drugs test escapes me but it is out there to read and, while some may find it a bit of a conspiracy theory, it does make for a good read and perhaps sheds some light on possible goings on at OT during the whole episode.

TK-Red


Sydney

Read my post to Devil Dust.

Becoming a little tiresome now, I'll think what I want and you can think what you want and we can both agree to disagree.

rpc


'rpc'

You do not sell the best CB on this planet who has 3-4 years at his best so you can raise a measly £15m on his sale. A £15m fee that he will receive 10% of and after paying tax, agents etc will be left with peanuts. If SAF was in the habit of doing this then why not sell Rio last year to Spurs? Rio has been struggling with back injury for a couple of years now so why not take the money and run?

Sydney!


'rpc'

SAF is never going to admit that he sold a player due to a personal matter is he? That would be him admitting that he has put himself before the club. Do some research on the club you support mate, RFT would be more than happy to fill you in on one or two things I'd imagine.

I bid you good day.

Sydney ;)


'Devil Dust'

Just to clarify, not once have I said this is purely for financial reasons. A whole host of factors come into play, injuries, performance, training, the player himself etc etc.

rpc


That is one of the reasons Herbie mate, but there is also another reason which resulted in the quick sale of the player. He was banned for using roids just weeks after being sold by United.

Sydney!


'Danny Pughnited'

Everyone would of thought the same about Stam at the time as well, fact of the matter is you cannot predict when a player is going to start to decline. Rio still looked top notch last season when he played, it's only this season when he's started to go downhill. Vidic may well go onto play for another four years at the top, but then again he may not. Fergie could have looked at him this year and felt his overall performance hasn't matched that of previous seasons, injuries don't help either. Fact of the matter is no one actually knows, if Fergie feels it's time to cash in on him then so be it, it could be a big mistake but it could also turn out to be a fantastic decision. You shouldn't write it off just because you don't want it to / believe it could happen.

rpc


SYD I 100% agree that no way on earth would he be sold just to get a decent price that theory is ridiculous.

Like I said at the time I did read Fergie was fuming now it was just something I read on the net so could have been rubbish I just find it coincidental that now this story has come about but yes it could be complete rubbish.

Devil Dust.


'Sydney!'

Yet again if you can provide me with one credible source of information that shows he was put up for sale and sold due to his book I'll take back everything I've said.

Ferguson insisted last night: "Believe me, trust me, it was absolutely a football decision and is nothing to do with that [book] nonsense. I said that to Jaap. I would never allow such an issue to colour my decision."

What more do you want to get it into that head of yours?

I await your next reply stating that Fergie was simply lying and all that was reported in the papers etc was correct.

rpc


This is what stam says in his book:

He claimed that Ferguson had illegally tapped him up before buying him from PSV Eindhoven and revealed blunt insights from the United dressing room.
Many assumed his book was the reason behind his departure, a take on events that Stam is happy to subscribe to.
HERBIE


'Devil'

I agree, a damn lot happens behind the scenes. And if Vidic did ever p1ss the manager off then it is certainly possible that he could be sold, but he will not be sold simply because we can get a decent price for him when he is clearly in his prime. We could get a minimum of three more years out of him so the only reason he could be sold is because of a row with the manager.

The story is pathetic, it is nothing more than a way of trying to unsettle our defence just as we are starting to keep clean sheets. More rubbish from the Daily Mail IMO. And the club would never have granted him leave if the manager wasn't happy with him playing for Serbia. He also needed games so the Serbia game would have been a blessing.

Sydney!


Regarding Stam, if i remember correct he got sold for stuff he said in his book, i may be wrong though.... HERBIE


I have to say I dont find it too unbelievable that United could indeed sell him next summer.
I read a while back that SAF was livid with Vidic about playing for Serbia after been out injured for so long.
How true that is I do not know but if Vidic has pissed SAF off then he could well be on his way out and SYD dont come back to me calling gullible or naive absolutely no player is guaranteed to stay with United til mid thirties lots goes on behind the scenes that we know nothing about.

Devil Dust.


'rpc'

Of course people know what goes on behind the scenes. Nothing stays secret when a whole squad of players and ex-players are privy to what happened, players and ex-players will reveal things, as will coaches and ex-coaches, even the relevant people themselves will reveal things at a later date. Even players of other clubs that the player has played with in his career, international team mates and even the family members of all of the above etc. It is not a well kept secret and I certainly never read it in the papers.

But you believe what you want in your lovely, pink, fluffy, gullible, naive land of everything perfect ;)

Sydney!


Rpc

I don't get you're argument about Stam or Vidic. Stam was obviously sold over the book and Fergie has since admitted he made a mistake. Vidic on the other had is simply the best defender we have and he's still in his prime. Yes he has had injury problems but they are not the same as Rio's nor is he as reliant on pace as Rio is. Vidic could comfortably play for at least another 4 years at the top level, so why would we get rid of him at the exact moment when we have young defenders coming through that need his guidance?

Danny Pughnited


TK-Red

I'm not going to start arguing with you, I haven't got a problem with you as it seems you can actually have a normal conversation. However, I find it hard to believe how you can make such a statement, no one knows what went on behind the scenes, that's unless of course you believe the tabloids in which case you're just as 'gullible' as me.

rpc


'Sydney!'

There you go again, talking absolute bulls**t. Of course it's because Fergie and Stam had a bust up, that's what all the papers stated right?! And put up for sale was he? This is yet ANOTHER lie in attempt to back up your story, please show me just one credible source that back's this up.

Honestly, you really are the most hypocritical and ironic person on here.

I await another fabricated post from you in attempt to make yourself look credible.

rpc


Can't remember what I watched it on but I remember a program sayin that fergie was big into his stats back then (don't know if he still is) and the stats were pointing towards stams performances dipping over his last year with us, in reallity this was not the case and I think fergie wud hold his hands up to dropping the ball on that one, but hey we are united and we move on.

Redrum182


'Woffsta'

That is one reason, but there is more.

Sydney!


'Syd'

I read, maybe on here actually, Stam was sold due to Ferguson using stats to monitor players performances and Stam seemed to be in decline. Correct me if i'm wrong. SHRIMP


Beckham, Heinze, Ruud & Stam were all sold on for reasons that were not tactical. Ince, Sharpe, McGrath are other casualties of SAF rows too. Lets leave it at that shall we?

Sydney!


Didnt Stam put some s*** about Fergie in his autobiography which stirred things up and caused him to leave? May have dreamed it though so no one spit their dummy.

Woffsta


Really Ed007....mine too. It takes a special sort to pull of Brian as a middle name.

rpc..Im not gonna get involved in any bickering with you boys but the reasons for selling Stam had nothing to do with the fee offered or his age etc. Alot went on behind the scenes at OT regarding Stam and SAF shipped him out to avoid what was coming. There are a few theories as to what these oncoming troubles were but one thing is for sure, Stam wasnt sold for tactical reasons.

TK-Red


'rpc'

You are incredibly naive aren't you? Do you know anything about the club you support? 99% of United fans know the real reason why Stam was sold. It had nothing to do with what Lazio offered us, he was put up for sale before the offer came in, the question is why was he put up for sale? Get researching lad.

Sydney!


'Sydney'

"We got the offer from Lazio, £16.5m for a centre-back who was 29. It was an offer I couldn't refuse"

You really are an idiot. I notice how you dismiss most of my posts because it makes you look an fool, yet when you try and make a point you totally fail.

rpc


Haha, quality redrum182


'Redrum'

Good reply mate.

Sydney!


Fed up of being gullible?

Send £4000 to po box number 445628

Redrum182


I'd just like to point out that stam was also at the top of his game when he was quickly disposed of as was a good few other of our players but we always seem to get by and if vidic goes then he'll only be stepping down a level


Well bugger me. I stand corrected lol ;) I bet you have a middle name like Constantine dont you Ed....its ok...I'll tell nobody.

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - No mate, my middle name is Brian after my dad.}


Of course not....all Scots are called Hamish. Everyone knows that. Ive always wondered what they call the men up there though...? ;)

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Watch this from 3.00.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vRz5KrO2dc&feature=related


and this watch this from about 4.30:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lMiByMich8


Some say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I say "then you've clearly never been to Hemel Hempstead".

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - The only people who say that are middle class English people who miss Terry and June, To The Manor Born and think apart from The Office Ricky Gervais is funny. I can honestly say, hand on heart I have never in my life met a guy called Trevor, they must all stay in leafy suburbia in England somewhere. Not many Scots or Irish are called Trevor believe it or not ;-)


You? A wind up? I dont believe it Ed..

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - No honestly, I very occasionally wind people up ;-) the only thing is that sarcasm goes over a lot of people's heads. In the words of that great Scotsman Rab C Nesbitt 'I was born a sarcastic b***ard....and I will die a sarcastic b***ard.'


I certainly did Sydney! Ive started using this handle when discussing most things now. Atleast then anyone who recognises the name can hold me to what I say. Thats the theory anyway.

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Quite right, using names helps the discussions etc move more freely and although no-one knows who you are you will at least be noted for what you say. If you want to leave a 'tag' in the e-mail field, doesn't need to be an addy then no one can post using your name unless that tag is there. It it the best we can do just now to avoid impostors, although names are optional, even on the CFC site I don't really pay much attention to anonymous posters unless I want a wind up or argument lol.}


34 Replies!? Thats gotta be a record?

Good ol Syd rubbing everyone up the wrong way. Where would we be without her?


Let's not give this story the time of day. When Vidic partners anyone at the back we are solid. However, when Rio partners anyone besides Vidic we look an absolute shambles.
Rio should have gone last summer, as I think that would have been the last chance to get any decent brass for him.
Dingle


'TK'

School is just beginning for rpc. Did you comment on the Sky Sports Alba story today?

Sydney!


Chill out folks FFS. School finished nearly 4 hours ago.

TK-Red


'rpc'

You haven't got a clue if you seriously believe Stam and Beckham was moved on just so we could get a decent price for them. You really haven't got a clue have you? Both left the club prematurely after bust-ups with SAF.

Sydney!


Praise the lord for jred, someone with an ounce of intelligence.

Maybe if you actually read what I'd put RedDevil92 you'd notice I simply put it wouldn't surprise me if the story was true, not once though did I say I thought that the article was genuine.

What would it matter if I did though, how do you know there isn't actually some truth in it? You don't, you don't like the story so you choose not to believe it. For all you know Fergie could be having his doubts about the player and could well be thinking about moving him on whilst he could still get a decent price, just like he has done with multiple players in the past, e.g. Beckham, Stam.

Main thing is though you as well as Sydney haven't got a CLUE about what's happening at the club so to write off others opinions if just pathetic and narrow minded.

rpc


I believe it....... Just kidding, complete tosh but yea a good debate.... HERBIE


Woahh, no one should be getting all cut throat and p!ssy.. it's pathetic! People are entitled to their own opinions, let it be that way and chill the fack out!

Here's my opinion - Vidic not going anywhere (he's the best CB in the world atm) - I have a feeling Rio will retire a red devil. That is all.

Ozwald


I love a good debate!! lol


To be fair out of the 24 posts not 1 person said they belived the story
jred


Oh and how is Gullible harsh? Its true, Vidic is more likely to retire at United than leave. He still has plenty left to offer.

RedDevil92


'jred'

If Vidic started showing glimpses of decline in matches and in training and doesn't show any improvement over a period of games, then yes he should be sold on. I am talking about fitness here jred, not form.

Sydney!


'No name'

Completely agree, it's a way of trying to unsettle our defence. Complete and utter garbage plucked from thin air. I wouldn't listen to anything the Mail, Mirror or Sun says unless there are quotes from relevant persons within the story.

'rpc'

I don't believe any story from the papers unless I know the journalist has good sources or the story has quotes from the relevant people. You can believe what you want.

Sydney!


Its pretty simple. Vidic is back fit and playing games and we're keeping clean sheets again. Tells you all you need to know, fergie aint getting rid of vidic


Syd
so with that logic if vidic has a shakey season after xmas we should just sell him, cash in while we can still get a good price not give him an other chance
jred


I like how you only reply to one part of my post and even then missed out the point that you were actually talking b****cks. It's like talking to a brick wall.

rpc


At the end of the day Fergie knows whats going on in the club, and what's going on with his players behind closed doors a lot more than we do, so if there is any truth behind it and there is any reason for him to sell him (and im not saing there is), then we must trust the managers judgement.

Andy B


'rpc'

I did not find out that we were scouting Real Betis via newspapers. I saw an interview with Pepe Mel and he confirmed that United have been scouting Betis games and training sessions for some time and that Betis had received contact from United regarding Vadillo. So knowing that we have been scouting Betis, it's hardly surprising that their striker is being looked at too is it?


'MD'

Rio is three years older than Vidic and finds it hard to travel on planes because of his bad back. He is constantly injured and is our second highest paid player at the club. I think anyone with a quarter of a brain will know who is going to be leaving out of the two.


'jred'

I said sell players when they are showing signs of going into decline, Vidic has shown no glimpses of going into decline whatsoever, he is still our best defender by far. Evra was showing signs 18 months ago since we played Bayern, and he should have been offloaded last summer by SAF.

Sydney!


Lol seriously, anything the Mail prints is utter bullsh1t. He is our captain, leader and the best defender in the world on his day. He still has another good 2/3 seasons at the top in his tank.

Never heard such nonsense in my life.

RedDevil92


Fergie willing to sell Vidic to Real. I think this will happen. But only if he gets a ride to Madrid on the nearest flying pig!

Woffsta


Syd
did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning.
it was only a couple off weeks ago you were telling me we should sell players before they start to decline you used maichon as an example
but really chill out its just a story in a paper that people are talking about (does anyone really believe anything they read in the papers) remember its a banter site not the sydney site
jred


Try not to act like you own the monopoly on opinions, Sydney. It doesn't do you any favours calling people gullible.

I never believe papers but selling Vidic in the summer isn't completely idiotic. Selling Rio AND Vidic is unlikely, however. And I certainly believe one of them will go. Most likely Rio.

I really hope that Fabio and Rafael can overcome their injury problems and start playing more. A settled back 4 is top priority IMO.

MD


If you actually had a brain Sydney it may be a little easier to talk to you.

It's makes me laugh how you even dare to call me gullible when EVERY single bit of so called 'information' you post on here is derived from either a website, newspaper or simply made up.

A perfect example was from yesterday;

'United have been scouting Real Betis' initially looking at Vadillo before his injury and whilst doing so they stumbled upon Pozuelo.'

And how do you know that? You first read a story linking us with Vadillo and more recently Pozuelo, you put 2+2 together and come out with your own little theory.

I see it time and time again when you criticise people for having an opinion, yet the irony is you base all you posts from the same sources as they do, hypocritical to say the least.

rpc


Vidic is just entering his prime. CB's in the past like Bruce, Pally, May, Johnsen and even Rio didn't leave until 35, 33, 33, 33 & 33 respectively. Even back-ups like Silvestre & Brown didn't leave until 32. We have much better medical scientists at the club nowadays, players can play on for longer. Rio will leave this summer, Vidic isn't going anywhere for a few years yet if SAF has anything to do with it.

Sydney!


'rpc'

The Mail said it's true so it must be eh? Give it a couple more days then the Mirror will use the same story, then it's definitely true isn't it? Gullible.

'Pardoe'

No it wouldn't make sense to sell our captain, he is our best defender and there isn't any decent defenders out there at this moment in time to replace him with. He is only on £90k a week, not £120k a week like Rio who is three years older and far more injury prone. We would never get £20m for him, not a chance. It is complete rubbish and people like yourself believe this nonsense. If any defender is leaving it's obviously Rio isn't it? A journalist will get wind of a CB leaving OT in the summer, most know it's going to be Rio, even the journalist, but saying it's Vidic will make it a bigger story. And he wont let a small fact that it's completely false get in the way of printing his story.

Sydney!


Gullible is a bit harsh. I dont think the mail story is from any worthwhile source or anything. It may be a story dreamed up from reasonabe assumptions. Vidic will leave soonish as there is genuine talent around to replace him and he is approaching a turning point age wise. Also a good fee will only be possible for a little while longer so makes sense to me, but not as early as Jan though imo.


No it's not me being gullible Syndey, just realistic. It may be rubbish, it may not, who's know, I don't and you certainly don't.

rpc


I would be gutted if he left but should we of maybe sold ferdy last year
jred


Yeah cause fergie loves telling the mails reporters what players are disillusioned and uncommitted at the club. Did you see the two consecutive defensive headers he did against sunderland, that was not the play of some one uncommitted.

JWalk


Sydney you are probably correct but also it does make financial sense as he could be on the wane large wage off the bill 20m or whatever would fund 2 players maybe
He is certainly good enough to stay ,plus there has been wife stories for years about sun and shopping in Spain who knows if theres anything in them

Pardoe


'rpc'

Or perhaps it's just you being gullible enough to fall for this rubbish?

Sydney!


It wouldn't be a huge surprise to me, he's not getting any younger and he has had his fair share of injuries (which only become more consistent). He maybe one of the best defenders in the world on his day but it doesn't help the team or player when you are in and out of the team, that's shown with Ferdinand.

Maybe after seeing how quickly Ferdinand has dropped a level this is the time when he could still get a top return back, e.g. £20m or so.

rpc


If saf thinks vida is not commited to the reds then why's has he kept him on as captain ???


It's the Mail jred, take no notice mate.

Sydney!