Manchester United Rumours Archive November 10 2012

10 Nov 2012 21:00:00
I'm fed up with everyone slating individual players. So...I'd like to make a wider point. The issue we had in the 1st half was a lack of pace and energy and endless pointless passes. When we picked up the pace in the 2nd half we looked a completely different team. Now I know we swapped some of the players, you could see the energy of Hernandez and the difference when Cleverley replaced Scholes, and even Anderson for Rooney. But, the lack of pace in the 1st half needs to be addressed. Patience is one thing but...it was boring.

AJH

Your right.... if one individual should take the stick then it has to be fergie..

why does he continue to pick those players and in that formation...

it does not work in europe and it does not work against energetic teams...

We are through to the knockout rounds with games to spare and top of the premier league, we've been behind in ten games and come back to win eight of them (after team talks, from guess who, SIR alex ferguson,) if you dont like ferguson youre not a united fan, do one.

snakey

Not sure yo u can eve give Fergie stick this time. We had a strong team but the midfiled wasn't very mobile and then he made changes at half time

It's been bloody obvious for 3 to 4 years now........we used to steam role teams with a vibrant, powerful full of running midfield......now we try to bore teams into submission.........united have never been a tactical team, we've always been better when we up and at em, with loads of tempo. Scholes is a legend, but his legs are gone.......carrick has never been a player IMO, the only walking midfielder to play for united........Anderson and cleverly have to be given a sustained run in the side at least until Christmas........to compare this midfield to the nineties teams is laughable......no comparison!

Also I think the performances of Young and Valencia are slightly worrying. Don't think either of them beat their man once in the first half, and when Valencia did beat him a few times in the 2nd half, he put in poor delivery. Rafael and Evra were better going forward than our two wingers!

MattL

Not to worry about valencia. He will have many good games, it's a long season. He also has Rafael to overlap who causes all kinds of problems.

I think the last couple of ankle injuries have knocked Valencias confidence a bit but you can't write him off.

I'm sick of everyone getting on the players' back if they have a couple of porr games. Nani is consistently poor so I agree in that situation but people slating Valencia on here are undoubtedly the same people that were saying we should sell Hernandez in the Summer. Do you never learn

Dan H

I was really disappointed on saturday night, the comeback was great as usual but with no disrespect to Villa we should be beating fairly comfortably, i understand things can happen in a game and we don't have the right to win every game but the first half was beyond woeful.

I am constantly annoyed with our midfield.
Scholes is one of the most gifted players i have ever witnessed but its come to the stage that we is more a hinderence, he can see pick out a 50 yard pass which is a pleasure to watch but he is a yard or two off the pace due to his age, other players know this and get tight at every opporunity, this is why i dont understand SAF playing carrick alongside as he doesnt tackle or stamp his authority on the game.
With the midfield this left the defence exposed and imo i cannot wait for the return of Vidic, Rio justs seems to be playing out his career, good positioning but like scholes doesnt have the legs anymore.
I believe if we sign a DM and another Dman we would be a force in both EPL and CL, our forward is the best ive seen in a long time - Rooney,RVP and Chico are on top form and will score goals galore but we cant keep giving teams the lead as it will have games we cant score and could cost us later in the season.

Giants14

Pretty much the same all the way all the way through against Braga. Away support was fantastic at both games.
MANCRED 99

10 Nov 2012 19:59:27
Ok so he tried winning on the cheap. He knows Cleverley is injury prone so he put Scholesy in. Just hasn't got the legs now at 38, very lucky to be given fouls that obviously were not against Ireland.

Typical post Euro away performance with loads of possession but no lungs to up the tempo. We should have lost tonight but have won, so lets just take it and run.

Hold our breath during this week of silly inter friendlies especially for RVP.

Next up Carrow Road I expect more of the same like tonight but will start Cleverley next week. Send the kids and Ryan to Turkey and hopefully be unscathed going in to QPR and West Ham at home, where we need to up the goals for column

Have a good night everybody

Mike the Moston Red

10 Nov 2012 19:52:55
And some people wanted hernandez gone! Amazing what a little pea can do! Did anyone notice that De gae has gotten better at handling crosses? He did well today dealing with crosses, looked confident! Glad smalling is back, didn't have the best of games, but did win a lot of balls in the air.

kdevil10

10 Nov 2012 19:28:11
No matter how talented Lewandowski is I dont care. For what Chicha has done for us I would rather he stays and Lewy doesn't come. Chicha was the only player that looked like he had a sense of urgency. He put in a shift, loves the club and can make the difference. Wouldn't give him up for any other striker unless we could bring Ronnie back.

Dan

Good to see someone praising him he is a good player and scores important goals.

The ?? Are all pointing to Rooney rather than Hernandez.......he is at least a stone over weight......he gave so many balls away today it was unbelievable ....... And don't me on carrick!

I think im gonna get him on my shirt

marlow

R u taking the piss lewy is 10 times the player hernandez is!

He scores more goals and he is the perfect target man great feet and touch the next RVN.

Hernandez would be lucky to be on the same pitch as lewy!

Hernandez has a better goal to game ratio than Lewy. We have RVP as the furthest up front what is the point in getting Lewy as well he wouldn't fit into the system with Kagawa, Rooney, Valenci

10 Nov 2012 14:35:15
Ed002; Stories popping up about Sneijder again, any idea if there is any truth in these and a potential move in January?

Thanks for the info the other day btw.

Thanks

rpc {Ed002's Note - I have nothing new related to the matter.}

10 Nov 2012 11:11:50
Question for the eds, what is the chances of man united buying victor wanyama or ryan shawcross in the january transfer window? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - I would have expected that Wanyama would sign a new deal at Celtic after the move to Arsenal failed to materialise rather than move elsewhere to sit on the bench. QPR had an offer rejected in the summer. Manchester United and Arsenal both remain interested but will likely be reluctant to pay the sort of figure Celtic will be looking for in January.

A move for Shawcross is something I know nothing of right now.}

Is it true that Martin Ferguson was spotted at one of Celtic's home games not too long ago? If so then usually it means whoever it may be (in this case Wanyama) is a serious target. Baring in mind Martin Ferguson was spotted watching De Gea and Kagawa before they joined due to him being the chief scout?

Ozwald {Ed002's Note - I rather suspect it was someone else being looked at.}

QPR bid £8m on the transfer closing day for Wanyama. This was rejected out of hand. After his exploits against Barca,
his value has risen immensely.
He rejected £40k a week when it was put in front of him, earlier this season.
He seemingly (or his agent) wants at least
£60k. His contract ends in June 2015.

Ed002 who do you suspect he was there to see? Tony Watt perhaps?

Frictiondixon {Ed002's Note - I do think Watt was being looked at again.}