Manchester United Rumours Archive December 11 2012

11 Dec 2012 18:46:14
Manchester United goalkeeper Mark Bosnich believes that manager Sir Alex Ferugson had staged the Wayne Rooney fiasco in a bid to raise the club's salary cap.

"I don't think it was so much of a battle. He (Ferguson) has basically played a very very smart move," Fox Sports quoted Bosnich, as saying.

"He's got his best player and someone who he is very close to more money than he thought he was going to get."

"That's raised the salary ceiling that Manchester United would have had internally ... so now that opens up the market for him to buy other players," he added.

When asked if he thought Ferguson had used Rooney as leverage against the club's American owners, Bosnich said: "Of course he has."

"As soon as Rooney came out and said 'I'm not so sure that the ambition is what it once was', that wasn't Wayne Rooney speaking in my opinion that was Sir Alex Ferguson speaking," he added.
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Came across this a few weeks ago and thought it was worth a share as everyone was obviously in the meetings that took place with Fergie and Rooney. I also read that others to benefit from breaking the old salary cap were Evra and obviously RVP. The whole mercenary argument is really old honestly when it comes to wages $hitty could have beaten whatever we put on the table so that's rubbish. If he did dare to challenge Fergie he would be gone really are you that naive that you can't see the truth?

KLOOT and Stevie I think that you should both build a clubhouse right next to Anfield. Where you and your followers can have campfires and reminisce about the past.

It's really a shame that a player puts on the shirt gives his all for the team and helps us to victory not just Sunday but most of the games he plays in and you would spit on that. You bring the proof that he held the club over a barrel for wages and I will accept it and if the only thing you can find is newspaper quotes don't bother. I won't even start on the players you named as better because it shows how others who made mistakes still make your legends list but not Rooney. KLOOT next game if you can take your head out of RVP's a$$ and have a look at the game not just to count Rooneys misplaced passes you might enjoy it more.

Darren-Bermuda

11 Dec 2012 19:24:27
oooo some one is angry at kloot

:) BIg v

I've said this a couple of times, I think it was all a big fix. Its worked though.

Fresh!

I truly can't say if this is true but, by far, it is one of the best, BEST, histories I've ever read in football.
And makes totally sense!
Seriously, I just need to thanks the user that posted that one!

MikonBR

We'll never know the details but it is a good point. When Beckham, Van Nistelroy, Stam etc were moved on it was merciless because they weren't part of the spirit anymore. SAF would not take any exceptions to this principle and that's why I think Bosnic has a point. Whether Rooney pushed SAF into this or whether SAF took the initiative to create it could be another question altogether. Either way SAF is a man managing genius.

Dan

Best post that's been put on here in a long long time ! Fair dues

Bilko

Great post and i guess we will find out when rooney does his fourth or fifth book lol Katef

So you justify your theory because Bosnich says so?

Well, it must be true then! I'm very sorry for not believing your ridiculous conspiracy theories all this time - how could I have been so stupid?

Bosnich knew the truth all along.

Who needs to have actually been privy to all this skullduggery and shenanigans, when you have old Bozzy stating he knows for certain that's what happened?

Seriously Darren? Your'e using this man's opinion as the basis for your argument? Oh yes, and your gut feeling of course - all very concrete mate.

I despair sometimes, I really do....

StevieK

Stevie you're really missing the point where is all the evidence that he did this? By responding the way you did only makes what I said stronger. In all honesty my opinion is just as valid as yours you can't prove that he did and I can't that he didn't. It's all a matter of what you think which could be further from the truth than what I posted so really what's the point?

Funny how so many people agree with me but you don't so I guess you were the one sat in the corner when they were negotiating and you know everything that was said. You of all people should know that when it comes to situations like this Sir Alex is ruthless. What would I know right? I haven't supported them as long as you so you would know that once a players time is up he let's them go no matter who they are.

People who form opinions should be privy to information if not they are making those opinions based on pure speculation. You hate him for something that you can't even prove but you believe so fiercely that you would think you were there and he $hit on the shirt. You maybe older but you certainly need to grow up and face the facts that being if he $hit on United he would be gone end of it.

Just for the record I never said that was the truth I searched and searched for where a United official said he was bending them over the barrel for more money. Funny I couldn't find it basically it's all conspiracies but I promise if it was all him he would be gone. It's ok Stevie I see the sky as blue while you see it in shades of grey to each his own. At least if you're trying to prove me wrong do a better job in the proving part. Anyone can write a sarcastic response.

Darren-Bermuda

Great post, I would love to believe its true.
Regardless I've seen posts in the last few months saying SAF has lost the plot.
I think not. The man is still sharper than a Swiss Army knife.

Supasub

We will never know the truth of this matter and we can all speculate has to what really happened but one thing is for SURE sir alex would never bow down to any player no matter who he is and it doesnt take a united fan to know anyone who knows anything about the great man knows that he will not take any prisoners if a player challenges fergie has public has rooney did then he would be out of the exit door and his feet wouldnt touch floor witch tells me that there maybe some truth in bosnich's statement although has i said anyone can speculate i would however rather get behind rooney instead of slagging him off after all he his a united player and he his also our best and most hardworking player plus there is the small fact that he put 2 past the not so noisey neughbours :)

Ooooh everyone agrees with me! Mate I'm not carrying this on. Its like arguing with my 10 year old.


StevieK

11 Dec 2012 18:24:46
i think there'll be a bit of a summer left back merry go round. Evra to paris, baines to united and cole to city. Cole especially makes sense as he tops up their english players quota and is a good player in one of their weak positions. He'll replace barry in their quota who'll be off soon to be replaced by fernandinho although mancini would prefer de rossi. SpongeBob

I think evra may only have a year on his contract so he may well be off to Paris in the summer
I wouldn't be surprised if Cole went to city but if Everton make cl I think Baines will stop for one more year
Jred

11 Dec 2012 13:22:29
What do people make of the nani to arsenal rumour
Jred

Nonsense, we won't allow him to go to EPL club just in case he sets the world a light. If he goes to Italy he is of very little concern.

Fresh!

Jred, I wouldn't be surprised if AW has an interest as he is better than Walnut, Gervinho, Podolski and AOC. However I do not think he will get him for the £15m that seems to be his limit. He would need to pay £20m to convince our manager to part with him to join Arsenal, perhaps no amount of cash will do it. What do you think?

Sydney!

Syd
I could see him at arsenal I think he could be a good fit, but I don't think fergy would sell to them , although nani gets a lot of stick on here he is a better player than people give him credit for so it could come back to haunt fergy.
Also don't think arsenal will pay the wage nani is looking for
Jred

Yesterday i sold him for £ 17m to Arsenal in FIFA13. lol. reddevil

20-24m and deal. basically like swapping nani for RVP.

JK92

Jred, Nani is better than people on here make out, agreed. I also think wages and Fergie would be a stumbling bloke.

Sydney!

Arsenal's board wont spend 20 million in January.

Wenger wont spend 20 million on anyone anway.

He isn't a teenager.

He isn't French or French African, Spanish or German.

Arsenal's board wont pay Walcott 100k p/w so wont pay nani 120k p/w.

Arsenal's fans don't want him.

Can't see it myself, Italy or Spain seem most logical.

Nanni is one of the most talented players at the club , he has everything appart from a brain and that is one of the most important assetts in a team game. His contract is up in 18 months time therefore January is our last opportunity to sell at a decent price. I believe that a bid from Arsenal of over £15 million would be enough to effect a sale.
Raffa

I for one hope its true and we ship him out ..I'd rather have someone in who puts in a 7 or 8 sort of performance every week than him with a 10 every four or five weeks and 4's in between ..They talk about Balotelli wasting his talent ? Nani has been doing it for years

Bilko

Wouldn't pay his wages IMO

Gav

11 Dec 2012 00:37:12
Some musings on future managers down below, and Scholes was suggested.

I think Ole's always been the best thinker out of our old boys, even when sitting on the bench he was always studying play rather than chatting with his mates. He's gaining vital experience at home and in Europe, and appears to have a winning mentality.

I think he'd be the best man for the job eventually. He's also a decent guy who wouldn't court much controversy or act like a classless buffoon.....

Love to see a backroom of Scholes, Giggs and Neville in there as trusted coaches, to recreate that Liverpool bootroom philosophy that served them so well. Could see Fletcher in there eventually as well. All guys who trust and respect each other, and who have got the club in their veins.

Any thoughts folks?

StevieK

It would be great in 10 years time watching Ole on the touch line and then just behind him are Scholes, Giggs, Beckham etc. They would be able to teach all of the players valuable lessons and help them reach the best.

We will all find out what lies ahead of us soon.

-JakeW

I completely agree. I would also like to see Beckham as a club ambassador.

Mick

Have to say spot on for me Stevie maybe this has been the managers plans all along just waiting for his most trusted playing staff to reach maturarity to take over the mantel would be nice if it happened and works but who knows what the future holds Sir Alex does not look finished just yet

Jake, a lot of people don't fancy Beckham as a coach, but I think he'd be great with the youth set-up. He started himself at the Bobby Charlton school, and was involved in his own. He always seems to have a great enthusiasm for teaching kids, and has a great work ethic that he could install in them.

Mike, that would be a great sight mate, and I think the fans would always give them a bit more leeway considering what they've done for the club.

And noname, don't worry, I'm, not ushering the aul boy out the door just yet!

Just love to see in the future, Fergie's fledglings sitting in Ole's office, just sitting there relaxing after training, chewing the fat over a cup of tea, and reminiscing about when it all started. Before getting down to discussing team selection for the upcoming ECL final :)

StevieK

I dont think Scholes has the personality for management. He would be a genius as a coach though.

Dan

It would be nice one day. Glad to see Ole do so well early on in his career as a manager. Gary Neville come across as a top analyst and coach and would be good support for the Baby Faced Assassin

Gav