Manchester United Rumours Archive March 12 2012

 

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12 Mar 2012 20:14:37
Kagawa is apparently going to sign a new contract at Dortmund. Could still move but less likely, shame.

Supasub

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I do not think Kagawa is on United's radar anymore. He had a poor half a season at Dortmund, United will want someone who doesn't have long dips in form. We get it bad enough with Nani & Rooney.

Sydney!

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Sydney, i hope you take into account he was out for a long period of time due to a metatarsal injury. He's rediscovered his form, remember a similar thing happened to Rooney. There's no doubt Kagawa is a gifted player, i've watched him play a fair amount of times for Dortmund and Japan and he's shown great potential!

Ozwald

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I have watched him too and I think he is a good player, but he took a long time to get back to his best. I am sure we would have acted in the summer if we really wanted him. I think Goetze is the diamond and if we go for anyone it will probably be him.

Sydney!

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I seem to remember Rooney struggling for a while to get back to his best after he broke his foot? That kind of injury would surely knock your confidence. True Goetze is the diamond, but with that comes more interest among top teams therefore a considerably higher pricetag, by todays standards anyway..

Ozwald

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Sydney

How can you even put Rooney in the same sentance as Nani when it comes to dip in form. Rooney has been superb throughout his Man United career. Both Him and Ronaldo when he was at United won us trophy after trophy.
I honestly don't know where United would be without him.
To compare him to Nani is ridiculious!

Simmo

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I never compared him to Nani, I said they both suffer with dips of form, which is very true. Nani's dips are for longer and more frequent, but we miss Rooney more when he has a dip of form because he is so important to us.

Sydney!

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Sydney

You said in your post that "we get it bad enough with Rooney and Nani" which means you are insinuating Rooney frequently looses his form which is not the case. Nani is a liablitiy at the moment. 15 step overs then runs into the oposition and looses the ball and holds his hands up in the air and moans about it. Im just glad that Valencia will be back for the title run in, for me he is the only player at United that produces proper crosses on a regular basis.
Ashley Youngs crossing has imporoved over the last couple of games and he seems to be finding a bit of form, lets hope it continues!

Simmo

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He doesn't frequently lose form, but when he does he shouldn't even bother playing his touch is so bad. I agree that Nani's dips are far more frequent. Valencia is a massive player for us, I cannot wait for him to return.

Sydney!

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Sydney

Sorry my friend you are talking out of your ap*e with regards to Rooney!

Simmo

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You have a very short memory if you have already forgotten Rooney's dips of form over the past couple of years.

Sydney!

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Rooney does have dips like any other player, remember how bad his touch was just mins before he hit the overhead kick to beat city?? He's a "streak player" at the moment he's bamg in form but i think we all know he'll have spells where he goes 4-8 games when he's poor, im not slating him either, its natural. Nani is more frustrating because we all know what he can do if he keeps it simple

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'no name'

Exactly, I am not slating Rooney either, but he does have dips of form. Wouldn't be the same team without him mind.

Sydney!

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Sydney

Taking Ronaldo out of the equasion, have a look at his goals per season and his assists since he came from Everton and that will tell you everything you need to know.
Of course he has dips but who doesn't, even the great Messi has off days.
All i am saying is that Wayne Rooney in my opinion has been one of the most consistent player at Old Trafford since has has been there.

Simmo

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Wayne Rooney has dips in terms of the amount of goals he scores. Just like SAF says, he tends to go on runs of scoring then a while without. Who knows why but it does happen!

I don't think Messi has ever had a slump in form, the closest thing to it is just a one of bad match performance which is still incredibly rare. Messi is almost a super human when it comes to football.

Ozwald

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Looking at Rooney's goals and assists tallys will not tell the whole story. I rate Rooney very highly, but I am amazed that you have forgotten his dips that he has had over the past two seasons, does the WC ring any bells?

Sydney!

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Ozwald

I don't remember him having a good game for Argentina!!!
Never done it in the South American Championships and the World Cup!
Still the best in the world tho!

Simmo

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Sydney

Who ever mentioned the World Cup, that doesn't interest me. this is a Man United Rumour Website not an England Rumour Website.
Boll*cks to the World Cup, stick to Man United!

Simmo

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The bad form continued from the WC all the way til February last year when he scored the overhead kick against City. The poor form started at the end of the 2009/10 season when he reached 34 goals and couldn't score in the final dozen games. That's April 2010 til February 2011. Nearly ten months of a poor Wayne Rooney? Like I said short memory?

Sydney!

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Sydney

What a load of crap...your complaining because he didn't score in the last 12 games after scoring 34 goals.
Where would United have been that season without those 34 goals??
I haven't got a short memory Sydney, i just tend to look at the positives rather then the negatives.
Rooney is our best player by far and what he has done for Man United is nothing short of remarkable. At certain times in his Man United career he has carried the club on his back due to the lack of quality players around him.

Simmo

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Why are you putting words in my mouth? I said his bad patch started at the end of 2009/10 season and didn't end until February 2011. I also believe Rooney is out best player and I think he has been remarkable too. But that doesn't change the fact that he had a dip of form between April 2010 and February 2011. That is of course the whole point of your pointless argument.

Sydney!

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Sydney

What words am i putting in your mouth??? I am merely quoting what you have said in your last text.
As you say this is a pointless argument, this is a website all about rumours and opinions. You seem to get very touchy when people don't agree with you.
Do you think that you are some sort or Man United Oracle that knows everything and nobody else's opinion counts?
Anyway, lets move on as this conversation making me yawn and fall asleep!

Simmo

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What words are you putting in my mouth?

"your complaining because he didn't score in the last 12 games after 34 goals"

I never once complained about that. I said that is when his form started to dip.

"Rooney is our best player by far"

I agree, never said he wasn't.

All I have said is Rooney has dips of form, that is completely true.

Sydney!

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Jesus, Mary and that other bloke....

Get off Sydneys back,

All he said was that it is bad enough when nani and rooney have a dip in form, He never said they were the same.

He is right in what he said, Rooney's dip in form impacts the team more than Nani's

Nani's is constantly in and out of form, he gets in form goes over confident then loses out a few times then hits the dip again.

Every player will have a dip in form some more than others.

I don't get why you chose to jump on Sydney's back for saying so?

It was you Simmo who claimed Sydney insinuated that Rooney was as bad as Nani not he other way round.

Chill.....

P.s Kagwa would be a quality signing, commercial beneficial too!

Monk

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I don't mean internationally, but on a club level where he always knows his place, what's expected of him etc etc then he performs like a machine.

Ozwald

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12 Mar 2012 19:20:19
I've read various stories that Pogba has signed a new deal, namely Sky Sports News, Ed or anyone have anything else on this?

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12 Mar 2012 17:04:30
Speculation is intensifying about Pogba signing on for 4 years, i'm actually believing it. But i'm not going to say i agree for sure until i see it on the United website with him and SAF shaking hands and smiling into the camera. If he does sign on, it will save us probably £30 million in transfer fee's which can be put elsewhere.

Great News!

Just wondering, i think most of us want Evra to be gone in the summer - but who do you want to see him replaced with. I think Cissokho is the best option, similar to what Evra was when he was in good form and a bit taller/stronger. It would very much be like for like.

Someone like Alba is an option but i'm not convinced by him defensively. Thoughts on a new left back?

RedDevil19

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I think most of us want Evra to be gone in the summer.

I don't, ridiculous statement.

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RedDevil19

Evra hasn't had a great season but there are worst players than him that we need to get rid of. Berbatov and Owen who are paid far to much for doing nothing. Anderson who has been sh*te for 4 seasons now and just seems to get injured and fatter. Park who is way past his best and just runs around like a headless chickes as the game passes him by. Macheda is just not good enough full stop!

Simmo

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What really good defensive left backs who have shown their quality in the BIG European leagues, and are good defensively are their? I can really think of any, their either really inexperienced or are getting towards their latter years. Unless im wrong please let me know. Jordi alba is good but i dont know defensively. I dont think we will replace evra. probably fabio looks like his long term replacement. I dont mind rafael(lazy as hell on thursday against bilbao) and fabio, just they have a habit of getting yellow cards very early on.

SSP

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I don't see Evra being sold in the summer. If we sign someone at LB then he will serve as competition for Evra, if Evra doesnt raise his game, then he will leave. Similar to when we brought Evra to the club at a time when Heinze was our first choice LB.

TK-Red

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If Pogba signs a new deal we will still be trying to buy a CM in the summer, I'm pretty confident on that. Pogba signing a new deal means nothing in terms of spending as we've lost Fletcher and Giggs/Scholes can't play every game. The only fit regular CM we have all season is Carrick. Anderson I believe will be offloaded if a suitable offer comes in Cleverley as good as he can be is never fit for more than 2-3 games. Park is for big games and is better out wide. Hazard was watched the other night..................... Can't see that happening though, I think he'll end up at Chelsea or City for the money.

United Till I Die 1987

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Why would we want Evra to go? I'll agree he hasn't been that great for us at times this season, but he simply would not be our captain unless he had a good influence off the pitch and behind the scenes. You really think we'd make Evra captain for the majority of this season then just cast him out at the end?! He'll most likely stay on, play less but help develop Fabio, Fryers etc.

Ozwald

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Evra is the weak link in our defence, he has been at fault for most of our conceded goals over the past couple of years. We will sign his replacement in the summer I have no doubt about that. It doesn't matter how much people like Evra, he is shocking at defending, that is what matters. If you want United to improve then Evra has to be replaced.

Sydney!

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No matter what everyone says I think Evra is staying he does have lacking defensive mindset but he is still pretty damned good in the Utd way he is there as much for his overlapping as his defending imo. I think there is zero chance of replacing him

Pardoe

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Then we will not improve and we will continue to concede silly goals from the right hand side. I have faith in the manager and he can clearly see what we can see. People keep talking about what Evra adds going forward, well how about 1 goal a season and as many assists.

Sydney!

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Celtic's Emilio Izaguirre is a ready made replacement, at 25 he's just about to hit his prime

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Just use Fabio and Fryers more.

Percy

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Five goals in his whole senior career (International and club). Just 17 assists in his whole senior career. That's less than two a year (International & club). Sorry, but he offers nothing in attack, nothing that Izaguirre, Alba or Cissokho couldn't offer anyway.

Sydney!

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It doesnt matter what anybody on here thinks the fact of the matter is fergy must rate him he picks him in almost every game and has made him captain.
i would be amazed if he is sold in the summer i think it would be more likely that fabio was sold and someone else was brought in to challenge evra.
i like fabio but its no good if his injured
jred

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To quote Evra's actual assists/goals doesn't tell the full story. How many times has Evra ran down the wing creating space and dragging defenders wide.
Although he's defensively abit waek, I don't think we'll sign anyone else

ANd

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I normally stick up for Evra, but I think he's been awful lately and been entirely at fault for a lot of our goals conceded.

He is one of Fergie's 'senior squad' members though and he seems to like keeping hold of them.

There is a problem with statistics like that though..Modric is apparently worth 40 million and he averages 3 goals a season and 5 assists.

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Why can't we have a LB who can create space down the wing and defend? We used to have that in Evra up until a couple of season's ago.

United will sign a LB in the summer, I have no doubt about that.

Sydney!

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When we got the twins (Da Silva's) i honestly thought they was going to be the future full backs of the club.. They have some defensive problems, but i can see Fabio cementing the LB spot as his own.
Mabzinho

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'Mabz'

I see a LB being signed, always believed it would be Izaguirre and I think Jones will play RB for us with the twins as cover and to rotate with.

Sydney!

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I think the years are starting to catch up with evra , i dont think his legs have gone but his first couple of yards from a standing start are def slower , i think this is why he keeps getting done when the winger stands him up.

but the big question is his position , he seems to be playing a more advanced role when we have the ball, his quite often up with or past the lw .

i wonder if this is a tactic if you watch barce do the same when they get the ball biscuits drops pique goes wide and alves pushes on.
if it is a tactic its not working but you would have to wonder if its not a tactic surly fergy would tell evra to stick to defending and if you dont your dropped , the fact we keep playing this way and fergy keeps picking him makes me wonder.
i no some people will say we haven't got anyone to take his place but if evra wasn't following the game plan and doing what fergy told him i think he would be dropped , evans could play if required

i also think the tactics of the team in general are an issue especially in europe.
european football is more tactically orientated compared to EPL and i think is the main reason we are doing well in the league and not in europe.

its been said before but maybe one of the best signings we could make this summer could be a tactically astute number 2
jred

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It has nothing to do with tactics mate, he gets forward and doesn't track back quick enough, he also gets beat 90% of the time 1-on-1. He almost never blocks a cross into the box, constantly out of position. He is a shadow of his former self. A mere shell if you will. Another thing that winds me up is when players like Ferdinand & Young are babysitting him, it leaves big holes in other areas. I like Pat as a bloke and I think he was a top quality player between 2006-10, one of the best in the world, but he has gone down hill so much it's costing us goals. It was time for change in the summer, but I am sure SAF thought he would wait and see if it was a good rest Evra needed. I think the manager now knows changes need to be made and I see a left-back coming in during the summer. I would bet my house that we will sign a new LB.

Sydney!

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Syd
maybe your right but is there any chance your wrong
could it be that fergy has a different opinion than you and that is why he not only he picks evra but has made him captain.
if you take away your own personal opinion of evra , what are the signs that fergy is about to dump evra.
please tell me how you know it has nothing to do with tactics.
why fergy keeps picking him .
why fergy made him captain.
why fergy never bought a lb in the summer when you went on and on about the lad from celtic

this is starting to turn in to the same crack as you going on about berb leaving or evans only being played before xmas because he was in the "shop window"
fergy has said many times berb would not be leaving but you continued to say he would , and guess what his still here.

evans was our third choice cb at the start of the season and you wouldnt have it your words were "he is only playing so fergy can put him in the shop window"
yet his doing well now , do you still think he is only a 4th choice cb.

try and distance yourself from your own opinion and tell me what evidence there is that fergy does not rate and trust evra
jred

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I agree, no left back needed when we have fabio and fryers who can take over from evra when ferguson sees fit, evra also is never injured which makes a massive difference, money can be kept or used elsewhere
and me and my flatmates check this site everyday and we laugh at how much she*p this sydney guy chats. Very rarely right but seems adamant on forcing his opinions on everyone

woop

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'jred'

How many times must I answer these questions for you?

1) Because there is no one better and as experienced currently in the United squad. But the manager has tried his best to find answers like trying Evans there and bringing a kid out of the ressies to see if he could play there. The manager is certainly looking at other options.

2) Because Rio is too prone to injuries and will not play two games in a week, Evra is the next experienced defender and plays most games due to no one challenging him for his position.

3) The manager may have thought Evra's poor form in the 2010/11 season was down to not having a rest in preseason (World Cup), many of us believed that could be the case. Perhaps he thought Fabio may have an injury-free season and could take the number one spot?

We did contact Celtic & Izaguirre's agent during the summer according to Izaguirre himself. So the manager was already looking at his replacement even before this diabolical season.

Sydney!

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'jred'

Are you telling porkies again? I said Evans was being tested by the manager this season to see if he will be kept. Evans even said at the start of the season that he thought he would be sold and knows this season is make or break, well I think we can safely say he has come good. I have never said he is in the shop window, Kiko, Berbatov, Gibson, Diouf etc were in the shop window for the League Cup games. If you seriously believe the manager hasn't been trying to offload Berbatov since the summer, then you are dumber than I thought. He has rarely made the bench, please explain why that is?

Sydney!

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'Woop'

You and your flatmates or you and your numerous identities?

Sydney!

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Just look at the facts they prove you are constantly wrong
jred

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Slop never agreed with anyone as much I noticed Sydney was replying to every comment and as soon as someone sticks it to him he's vanished. Evra is going no where he plays most games every season we didn't buy to replace Neville and won't for evra they are already at the club

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'jred'

Facts? What facts?

Sydney!

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You said all summer we mould buy a CM we never FACT
You said berb would leave , he never FACT
you really must stop believing every rumour you read in the paper
jred

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You say im dumb if i dont think fergy is trying to off load berb,

fergy on berb in november
"Dimitar is still in my thoughts.

"I have read some things but there is absolutely no reason for me to let him go.

"He is an outstanding footballer and we will give the extra year.

fergy in september
"We've had a few phone calls, but he's staying here - we're not selling.

fergy in the summer on berb moving
"It's nonsense," said Ferguson. "There's absolutely no interest or encouragement from us either."
berbs agent last month
Usually I don't comment on speculation from the press. They can say whatever they want,” Danchev told Sovetski Sport. “But the only thing that I can say is that at this moment the eventual transfer of Berbatov to another club is not on the agenda.”

so fergy has said time and again he will not be leaving and guess what he is still at the club, but this doesnt fit your argument so im sure its all nonsense
jred

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'jred'

You are missing the point though aren't you? We TRIED to sign a midfielder and we TRIED to sell Berbatov, just because the club failed in their attempts doesn't mean the club didn't want to do these things. In future I will word things differently, the club will try to offload Berbatov and the club will attempt to sign a midfielder.

Sydney!

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You say we tried to sign a midfielder but as i have said before there is a difference between enquiring about a player and trying to sign one
jred

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I think the issue here is because Evra and Evans do not put in MOM performances or make barn storming tackles or through themselves in front of the ball like Terry they are not good enough!

Jack Charlton once asked Sir Alf Ramsy why he was in the England team when there was better players then him and Sir Alf Ramsy's response was that he does not alwys pick the best players but the players that can fit in with his system!

The main ''Fact'' is that we have kept equal amount of clean sheets as City (13) and Evra and Evans have been pretty much involved in majority of games this season and also we are now top.

Obviously Evra doesn't hit the heights he once did but he does a job and his experience is important.

I think it is worth Evra staying one more season and helping a new LB settle in, maybe Cissokho from Lyon? But people who rule him out now and slate Evans maybe need to look at the bigger picture a bit more!

Ports

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'jred'

What do you expect the manager to say? Come on jred lad THINK! I have read plenty of Berbatov's agent's comments and most talk about him leaving, even him talking to other clubs. United will trigger the Berbatov clause because it's better than losing him for nothing.

This is what I heard regarding Berbatov and it is only rumour. I tried getting Ed002's thoughts on it yesterday to see if it was similar to what I heard. I heard that Berbatov refused to leave in the summer, the club believed he wanted to leave on a free so he could get himself a better salary being a free agent and a sizeable signing on fee. With the club aware of this, they are doing their best to prevent it and SAF is doing his best to punish Berbatov internally by leaving him out of games or even matchday squads. I am not sure how true this is which is the reason I wanted Ed002's thoughts on the matter.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Would the manager "punish" Berbatov for that? I don't know. It is hard to see him staying at Old Trafford after this summer. I understand that Fenerbahce, Lokomotiv Moscow and CSKA Moscow still have varying degrees of interest in Berbatov as might Bayer Leverkusen, but PSG and Bayern Munich have dropped their interest. It would not be at all surprising to see Panathinaikos make an approach in the summer.}

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'jred'

United wouldn't inquire about central midfielders unless they wanted to improve that area of the pitch. Come on jred wakey wakey.

Sydney!

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'Ports'

Evra isn't doing the simple things correctly and it's costing us many goals a season. Also keeping Evra would block Fryers and Fabio, not help them settle in.

Sydney!

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Syd
united will enquire about players all the time i would hope they are constantly looking to improve the team.
we know that giggs and scholes are not getting any younger , im sure that a team like united plans for the future i would not at all be surprised if united would enquire about a player , would he be intrested in a move how much would he want, would he be available etc 12 month in advance.

as for berb , last summer he had scored a few goals through the season, played a few games. we had 2 young inexperienced strikers so getting rid of a proven experienced striker made no sense , add to that fergy said he was staying , his agent said he was staying and he stayed.
everyone is entitled to an opinion if its different to yours that doesnt make them dumb , some times you have to consider both side of the argument , your maybe right but then again your maybe wrong
jred

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Ed002 - I don't think most managers would, but we know what has happened to Kuszczak for speaking out. I think SAF would have liked around 10m for Berbatov in the summer to go towards other areas and if you are getting a player who refuses to leave because he wants to leave on a free to get himself a better deal, I think it's perfectly plausible why he is being left out. Could United trigger his one year extension and let him go in the summer for a few million? Would that mean United will have to pay him a year's salary?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I don't know what his contract say Syd.}

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It's not about opinions jred, it is fact that United were looking for a central midfielder during the summer and fact that Berbatov was available to buy. Wake up. United tried very hard to bring in a midfielder during the summer, that is not my opinion, that is what happened.

Sydney!

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We are on a banter site and you say its not about opinions ?
you say its about fact well is the FACT not that we never bought a CM i take it that you disagree with my statement that united could of enquired about a player last summer with a view to signing him this summer.
and a fact that berb was available, but is the FACT not that he never left.
i would love to know what your inside source is (as i feel very few outside OT really know whats going on) that lets you be 100% right.

you say its not about opinions but it is , for you its all about your opinion and no one elses
jred

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Ed002 - But in normal circumstances would the selling club have to pay the player's final year of contract if he hasn't asked to leave?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - No. If he is sold without asking to leave he gets a percentage of the transfer fee - not his contract paid up.}

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Ed002 - Ah that's right, 5% loyalty bonus isn't it? Thanks Ed.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - It is not a loyalty bonus, it is 5% of the transfer fee.}

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You need to learn what 'opinion' means jred. If the club DID try and sign a midfielder and Berbatov WAS on the transfer list then if you don't believe that then that is your opinion, but it doesn't make it any less true. I could say IMO Messi is crap, doesn't make it true does it? The club DID try to bring in a midfielder and Berbatov WAS on the transfer list during the summer, that has nothing to do with opinion, it actually happened.

Ed001 - Was Berbatov for sale in the summer? Did United try to sign a midfielder in the summer?

Sydney!

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Why will we save 30m if Pogba stays? Admitted he has potential and he looked good when he came on against Stoke. But he's only played, (and looks good), against other kids. he's only just over a year younger than Gotze, but is 3 years behind him in development. Also Cleverly apart from being almost permanently injured, is no world beater. He's good but somewhat one paced and predictable. However, if we could get 15-20 games out of him on the bounce, he may grow better. In midfield we could try Valencia, who sometimes plays there for his country. He's strong, good in the tackle, frightens defenders with his pace. it's just a question of whether he has the full range of passes needed. We do need to strengthen midfield M'vila, Tiote or Martinez, though Martinez will cost 40m would be great I'd also like to have Eriksson,but only at 20m-25m tops. Including wingers we need 7 or 8 strong midfielders, at the moments we have Carrick,Nani, Valencia,Young, Giggs/Scholes (because of their age I only count them as one), Cleverly=6. Pogba and Tunnicliffe are maybes. There's no way SAF will count Pogba as the finished article yet. Pogba does take a good free kick, but he's no CR7 or even Beckham with a dead ball.
Mik

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'jred'

I believe we were actively looking to sign a midfielder in the summer, YOU DON'T.

I believe Berbatov was available for purchase during the summer, YOU DON'T.

I believe we will sign a LB in the summer, YOU DON'T.

Lets leave it at that mate.

Sydney!

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What is a loyalty bonus then? And what percentage of the fee does the agent get?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Loyalty bonuses are built in to contracts themselves where they exist. There is no fixed amount given to an agent involved in a transfer - it is negotiated on a case by case basis but typically would be 6% to 8% plus VAT.}

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Syd
yer no probs all though to be fair I do think a new lb will be bought in the summer I just don't think evra will be sold.
If you check my first post I just suggested that there was no evidence that fergy doesn't rate evra
jred

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Ed002 - So out of the 100m euros Ronaldo fee, 5m would have went to Ronaldo, a minimum of 7.2m euros to Mendes and the club would receive the rest?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - The Ronaldo fee was in not euros. If Ronaldo did not request the transfer then 4M would be passed to the player. I have no idea what the agent got as I explained above.}

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Ed002 - Is there ever a case when the buying team has to pay for the agent fees?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Yes, very regularly.}

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'jred'

There is plenty of evidence that suggests SAF is worried about Evra's performances. I have mentioned them.

1) Trying Evans & Fryers in the LB spot.
2) Replacing Evra with Giggs at LB.
3) Moving Rio to the left side of central defence.
4) Contacting Alba's & Izaguirre's agents.
5) Like Ed001 said, SAF giving Evra the captaincy to see if it improves his performances.

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Syd
let's be honest I can make points about why fergy still rates evra
or argue some of your points could the answear to evans and fryers playing lb be because somebody had to was fabio injured were they high profile games or do you expect evra to play every game
we are not going to agree on this

like I said I don't think evra will be sold in , the summer, do you know that he is , what is it that you are trying to convince me off
jred

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How many penalties has evra won us by running down the wing?
TRUMORS

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"we are not going to agree on this"

That is the beauty of this site mate. A difference of opinion. You think Carrick & Scholes will start on Thursday, I don't ;)

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Very true pal

I think carrick will start and that we will play a strong team , but who knows
should be a good game
jred

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Ed002 - Is this why Arsenal enjoy selling their players to City ;)

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'jred'

It will certainly be a strong team, but I do not see Carrick, Ferdinand, Welbeck or Scholes starting, but all will start against Wolves.

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Is welbeck not injured
jred

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'jred'

Not according to Physioroom. He hasn't played in the last three European games bar four minutes so I do not think that will change. The Wolves game is the priority.

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Meant to write twenty-four minutes.

Sydney!

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Mi sure i read he had a slight hamstring injury, i might be wrong
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12 Mar 2012 15:02:30
Does anyone think Fergie's visit to France and Pogba's supposed U turn was not a coincidence but Fergie meeting his family or something? Food for thought.

Also not too long ago the Ed(can't remember which but i'm sure it 002) who was saying i wouldn't want to hazard a guess as to who United may sign, and Bang! SAF watches Hazard and Harry spills the beans saying United are strongly interested. Well done to the Ed.

Any progress on the Hazard thing Ed? What are you hearing about Pogba?

REDFAITH {Ed002's Note - I am by no means certain that Pogba has agreed any deal just yet.}

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There hasn't been a U-turn as yet mate. So far it's just paper talk.

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Thanks Ed002. We will have to wait and see i guess.

REDFAITH

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Why would he have come on ahead of cleverley and anderson unless he was staying? seems inevitable to me?

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Redfaith
its a good point that , i think that could be possible
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12 Mar 2012 13:50:47
Eden Hazard has conducted an interview in the French media and was asked about United's alleged interest. "It's a pleasure to be observed by one of the best coaches in the world, if not the best," he said, as reported by La Voix des Sports

Please GOD add him and Martinez to this squad at the start of the window. I would then spend the rest of the summer with a massive grin on my face.....

Oxred

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12 Mar 2012 11:57:47
Sky sports are stating pogbas signed a new deal at united

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Let's hope so. If this is the case, how would people feel about purchasing Martinez from Bilbao if possible and maybe a LB and look at starting line up of:
De Gea
Jones - Smalling - Vidic - Evra (can't think of a LB worth putting in yet)
Pogba - Martinez
Cleverley
Valencia/Nani - Rooney - Young

Just a thought, could be an interesting summer for us!

Ports

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Happy days.absolutely great news.would have been a f***ing massive loss.

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Great recovery from Fergie. Living legend. Scrud101

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Nothing has been signed yet, not until you see a photo of SAF, Gill & Pogba on MUTV wearing cheesy grins. If he does sign then that will be a massive boost for morale and I guarantee he will be a regular starter next season. Him and Cleverley in the centre with Carrick & Scholes standing by and hopefully Fletcher & Anderson also standing by. With Tunnicliffe & Jones who can play midfield I would be happy to see one top midfielder come in, an attacking midfielder.

Sydney!

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Who, Lavezzi or Goetze? Ozil maybe?

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This would be great news and a major boost not only for this team, but the club as a whole going forward. This would also send out a message that we can and will keep our best players and improve.

In terms of team for next year, I agree with Ports and have said for months now, that if only 1 signing can be made then that man should be Martinez.

He can play CB if needed or play in his natural position of DM and shield the back 4 whilst orchestrating our attacks...

Oxred

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Sydney, I was under the impression that Pogba was more an attacking midfielder as is Cleverly.

Del boy!

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Delighted with this news! Im really interested to see how much he improves.
@Del Boy - Id consider him box2box. He is very athletic and not afraid to get stuck in. But at the same time he is very skillful and creative. I think he studied Veira and Zidane when he was a boy.

Gar

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They are both central midfielders that can both attack and defend, Cleverley like Scholes sits in front of the defence and clears up the mess and will get the ball to the wingers and forwards, but can get forward and has a good goal threat. I see him scoring 5-10 next season. Pogba is a box to box midfielder who can also play as a holding midfielder. Pogba is also a very good free-kick taker, something we have been missing since Beckham. Pogba & Cleverley would complement each other perfectly in midfield. With Rooney dropping back to make it a midfield three when defending. If Pogba signs then Cleverley & Pogba are the future.

Sydney!

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Again no confirmation on whether he is staying or not but atleast the swing is set upon staying rather than leaving.


I have officially apologised to my friend how gave me the "percieved dodgy" information the other week about a friend of his over hearing a convo between Pogba and an unknown person where he'd alledgedly said he just wanted better assurances on playing time and was happy with the pay offer but that his agent was telling him to hold out as they (ot) could come back with better assurances.

It seems he was right as now all the information being passed around seems like it was all about playing time and not wages for Pogba.

I still stand by my comments regarding players fighting for their place as opposed to trying to manufacture playing time by either switching teams or threatening to move if not given the time.

I hope pogba does stay but then accepts he needs to now step up to the plate and prove his worth by keeping his head down and working hard to claim a permanent first team role.

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Still do not like rooney in the hole syd, think he is more dangerous up front where HE WILL SCORE goals.....

if we sign a better goal scorer and all round forward then yes drop him into the hole, but do not know if one is available....

Martinez (M'Vila) would be my number 1 signing and then play Cleverley & Pogba infront of him... (anderson in there 2 on rotation)

either way will be very interesting to see who we add in the summer if Pogba stays....

Oxred.

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Thanks Syd, i look forward to getting excited again when we have a freekick around the box and not thinking United should just just let the opposition have a goalkick.

Del boy!

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Well, I've always maintained that it was about playing time. I think Cleverley is more of an attacking midfielder and would say Pogba is more similar to Scholes. Both are very rounded players though.

Percy

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From what I have seen of the boy, the characteristics between himself and Viera are uncanny and not just the physical side of it but I believe Pogba will be a better ''Footballer'' then Viera!

Ports

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