Manchester United Rumours Archive July 14 2012

 

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14 Jul 2012 22:22:54
QPR are to launch a bid of £8 million for dimitar berbatov
Even though im a Man United fan I would desperately like to see berbatov leave so he would get regular first team opportunities

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This wouldn't surprise me in the least. It would suit everyone as we would get the cash we want, QPR will get a top striker. They could afford his salary if they sell Barton. The only one that will need convincing is Berbs and with Park and Fabio already there. Moving back to London may interest him. I still think Malaga will bid for him.

Sydney!

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Yh but I follow English football and not Spanish so I'd like to see berbatov stay in the prem because he's so enjoyable to watch
Only concern is that as we saw with macheda he didn't make it in the team that much at loftus so that could be the same with berbatov

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£8m would be a great result, £5-6m probably more likely though. Berba has come out today and said he thinks he should leave, good luck to him wherever he ends up

Gav

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14 Jul 2012 22:20:13
Apparently Sao Paulo have rejected a bid of 25 million from united for Lucas moura
This confuses me because there was loads of stories saying that Man United had agreed a fee of £30 million+ Anderson for him

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Thats about right then £30m + Anderson = £25m cash lol

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14 Jul 2012 21:46:00
Supposedly BBC Radio 5 Lies reported this evening that we are finalising a deal for Lucas. Can't verify this however. They did also say this about Hazard so I'd get the salt out.

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14 Jul 2012 21:28:31
BBC 5Lies just reported that Manchester United are finalising the deal to sign Lucas Moura!

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14 Jul 2012 21:12:19
To any eds

Do any of you think that Lucas moura will be a united player at the start of the season? I have read all other posts and realise what you know has been stated. But what are you guys personal feelings on the chances of this deal? Great site by the way guys keep up the good work.

Gman86 {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate and no I don't think Moura will be at Utd.}

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14 Jul 2012 20:12:12
If Eriksen to Utd is a true story (not 100% by a long way) I think it could be a smart bit of business.

Similar style of play to Luka Modric, but will obviously be cheaper and has time on his side for Fergie to mould a top class player out of him.

Also bringing him in now will give him a season under his belt in the Premier League so he can adapt to the more physical game and also learn of the greatest midfielder of our generation in Paul Scholes

fearny

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But he's a year older than Powell and will want to move to spain at some point. Powell is unlikely to want to move to spain and plays in almost the exact same way. Granted Powell may be a year or two behind in development but i don't see the point of bringing a similar player to the club especially when they are around the same age. Thats why i'm sure all this Eriksen stuff is BS.

Shappy

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14 Jul 2012 19:26:46
Looks as though the Eriksen rumours are picking up pace. He would be a very good signing, I'd much rather have him than Lucas Moura as he would go a long way to solve our midfield crisis. He would work very well alongside Carrick. Having main options of Carrick, Cleverly, Eriksen and Anderson looks exciting with Scholes, Tunnicliffe, Petrucci and Giggs playing more bit part roles. For £20 million Eriksen would be great business, but I am not at all convinced that he would want to come to England, or that he would stay for very long before going to Barca. That is a major reservation that I am sure we would have.

RedDevil19

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Eriksen would replace Anderson in the squad.

Sydney!

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Who's to say barca would want him or even afford him (if he signs im presuming it will be for 4 years or so?)

Cban

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What crisis,Anderson and Cleverley are proven if they can stay fit and if this Ericson is the real deal then why aren't Madrid, Spurs Inter being linked to him
Can't see Fergie pursuing this one
Tiger2

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'Tiger2' how can you mention Spurs and Madrid in the same sentence and think that they are on the same level as if we should aspire to their transfer targets? Barca have been heavily linked with him, need I say more?

RedDevil19

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According to his agent!
Still feel if Cleverley & Anderson can stay fit and Carrick scholes giggs Powell play to there capabilities then were not far away
Modric I believe would improve us but I'd prefer us to go for Rodwell even with his injuries than erikson
Tiger2

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Both Madrid & Spurs are looking for a midfielder and could afford him that's why I mentioned them sorry RedDevil19 still believe we,ll stick with our opinions that's football
Tiger2

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RD19, we know Eriksen would love to go to Barcelona, but where is the proof Barcelona would love to have Eriksen? They simply have no need for him and they couldn't afford him anyway.

Sydney!

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Not ready for the first team, talented player but far from the finished article. He was dead at the euros, seems to have problems finding space when off the ball my opinion is if hes signed he wont be a starter hes defo still learning his trade, saying that u.t.d would be the best place to improve his craft.

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I don't disagree but a key to the Moura deal may be sell on value in 5 or so years. Might even persuade Glazers to cough up funding.

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Does anyone else think that Powell and Eriksen's style of play is similar? So much so it almost makes it pointless having both of them seeing as they are about the same age. Plus which one do you think will won't to play for his dream spainish club i a few years.

Shappy

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14 Jul 2012 18:01:11
Well it's looking like we will miss out on Modric and Moutinho, which is a shame. But if i'm honest i'm not sure if they are the kind of midfielder we need atm. They keep the ball and set the tempo, Carrick and Scholes does this atm, now they can't go on forever but this is the role i see Cleverley developing into and then we have Powell who Sir Alex has said will be a midfielder, So this is hardly the type of midfielder we need.

So what do we need? well we need a player with graft to go with the players we have atm. The only players in our squad who have that graft is Fletcher and Tunnicliffe and possibly Jones although i don't feel has has the technical ability to play against the best sides in this role. Fletcher is unlikely sadly to make a return and Tunnicliffe is untested and in all reality not ready. Carrick does this job to a certain extent but this isn't his game. He should be setting the tempo not clocking up the miles. This isn't a DM but a box to box high energy player who does the majority of the work load and adds a bit of bite to the midfield.

So who could we sign who offers us this?

Well Cabaye is a great player and proven in the league, he would be pricey but if were honest his game is more about creation than work rate. Maybe he is a bit too much like Cleverley/Scholes.

Nuri Sahin has been mentioned but is more of a deep lying playmaker than a high energy box to box player.

Kevin Strootman is a creative player who does the box to box work but maybe doesn't offer than destructive edge we're looking for. Plus i think he could do with another year in Holland.

Axel Witsel looks a good option, but how good would he be in the prem? he's only ever played in pretty weak leagues. And Benfica want alot of money for a player who is unproven at the highest level.

These four players are all good players but none quite fit what we need. The players who i feel are best suited for us and are available are:

Sami Khedira- this lad has the lot, he is excellent defending, has a great passing range on him, and he gets forward and can score some belters. He is a geunine world class player, the only down side is he isn't prem proven but with a player of his calibre he won't find it hard to adjust. He looks like he maybe surplus to requirement at Madrid and if they get Modric they will need to offload someone to balance the books.

Marouane Fellaini- again this lad has everything were looking for in a midfielder and he is prem proven. He is also a great player to have for set pieces. Everton may need to sell someone to keep the books looking healthy and i hope if we are after one of their players then it's Fellaini.

That i think covers the centre of midfield. But there is a chance that Nani could be leaving and my source thinks Gaitan could be the player to replace him. We've failed to bring in Hazard, Rodriguez and now we look destined to miss out on Lucas Moura as well, so it looks like we are trying to sign a winger. So who is better Nani or Gaitan?

Nani has that explosive ability to be unpredictable, this is mostly because not even he knows what he is going to do next. He isn't an intelligent footballer, he acts on instinct which sometimes makes him unplayable and other times like he just shouldn't be played. He is a marmite player, some love him and some loath him. I like him and feel he is a player who can make the differance and win games on his own. The problem being is can you rely on him to do it, can you say he WILL definately make a differance. I think not, this IMO is why Sir Alex doesn't always start him in the big games as you just don't know which Nani will turn up.

Gaitan on the other hand is an intelligent footballer and is always trying to do something different and work out players and ways to beat them. If something doesn't work he tries something else. He hasn't got that explosiveness of Nani but he is more dependable, You could play him and know he'll do something that could help you win the game.

So on his day Nani is the better player but Gaitan is the more dependable player. If you look at player ratings Nani could score anything from 3-10 as he will either be the best player on the pitch or he'll be awful, Gaitan would score between 6-9, as he'll never have an awful game but he might not be as instrumental as others on the day.

On the whole i think as we now have Kagawa who is very creative then i would just go with Gaitan due to him being more dependable. But only just.

Shappy

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Out of all of them targets I hope we get Fellaini

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Ur source isn't called common sense is it? Its fairly clear that Gaitan could be amongst the names to potentially replace Nani. I'm sure he's not leaving though.

RedDevil19

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FELLAINI all way for me i think he is a class act and what the midfield has be lacking for a long time PLEASE fergie get the money out for him

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Good post Shappy, think Madrid would sell to us?

DodgyBanter

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I think if sahin became available he should definately be looked at, he would be in our price range and could replace scholes next season. Also with signing shinji, them 2 would link up well. If sahin were available would utd be interested eds? {Ed002's Note - Sahin has had injury problems this year but rumours do persist about his long term future. If he were to leave I would very much suspect a move to Italy (possibly with AC Milan) or a return to Germany (with Bayern Munich) would come before any thoughts of a move to England. Malaga also spoke to Madrid about the possibility of a loan and Galatasaray would like to take him to Turkey.}

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Would love if we got either Khedira or Strootman. The form is most probably the most likely of the two but that's still a way off.

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How sure RD19 ;)

Sydney!

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You mention fellaini and prem experience, so what about Sandro?

do not know if spurs would sell but he could be a fantastic buy and an affordable cost.

on the other side of the coin is MARTINEZ who I would just love to see at utd but he would be costly and we have have to persuade him to leave spain and not go to barca & madrid if they came in for him.

In the middle M'Vila........ why are we not going for him... he would cost between 15 and 20 mil and he would be worth every penny.......

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I swear to god... If one more person says our mf is in good shape and that adding Modric or Moutinho isnt what we need, I'm going to go postal!! Take the blinders off you gits, our mf is in shambles, is old, and injured!! Scholes came out of retirement and it shows. Giggs is not he player he once was (although against lesser opponents he still serves a purpose). Cleverly is injured and still hasn't made any impact, Anderson never got to play his position and has been injured. Carrick is good at what he does, but what he can do is limited. Stop dreaminF that it's 1999 some of you! Our MF is not what it once was! Modric or Moutinho are NEEDED! Without at least 1-2 players like that joining our team, we will NOT be winning anything anymore. Wake up and smell the reality of Arab money backed teams man. Unless we can spend more, we will continue to drop out of the CL and surrender the EPL to s**tty and Chelsea. That's a fact! Adding 1 good AMF is NOT going to help us win trophies and be the best team in the world. Fergie is arguably the greatest coach in the world, but that can't make up for a lack of elite talent, like our MF!

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Sandro is a good player but too defensive IMO, he is more a sit and defend midfielder rather than a box to box player. The same for M'Vila, who also has an attitude problem to go with the talent.

Martinez would be perfect but is far too expensive for us.

Thats why i feel either Khedira or Fellaini for between 15-22m would be ideal. Also they are both at about the right age(25) to be in their prime year at our club which with so many young or experianced players at the club i feel it's important to get a good balance.

Shappy

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Nuri Sahin is a player who got 4 appearances for madrid last year!! so calling him a playmaker is BS he is a piece of garbage and Real no this, big money signing with 4 apps and for some reason you guys think SAF is interested in him HA he is not stupid and no way will he sign a no good player who hasnt shown promise in the year he bought him!
- Johnny H Newton Heath 1878

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First off Johnny mate Sahin has been injured most of the year with Real and when he came back real they were in good form and on the charge for the title so he only had limited chances. Bear in mind he was the youngest ever player in the Bundeliga and was one of the best midfielders in germany before he sign for Madrid. I watch a lot of German football and i can assure you Sahin is a real talent. I still don't think he's quite right for us though, but given a chance and he is quality.

As for the unnamed poster with anger management issues. No one is trying to say our midfield is fine, but it isn't as bad as some would have you think, with a injury ravaged squad our midfield held together pretty well against most teams, and well enough to make us equal on points with City at the end of the season.
When you look at our midfield what did we lack last year? Creativity? well we were banging the goals in until Cleverley got injured(and just for the record he isn't injury prone, his injury problems last year were impact injuries not pulls or strians). We've added Kagawa and Powell and with Cleverley back fighting fit and maybe a miricule from Anderson and suddenly our midfield looks very creative. The other problem we had last year was when we were pressed high up the field or drawn into midfield battles as we had Fletcher out injured and he is the one we look to when things get rough. Now long term we have Tunnicliffe who has a great chance to be a awesome midfield general but we do need someone for now as Fletcher sadly doesn't look like making it back. This is why i feel either Khedira or Fellaini would be the key signing we need to make to stop things like the late collaspe against Everton. With either Khedira or Fellaini with Carrick and Tunnicliffe being the base and Cleverley Kagawa and Powell being the creative spark i see no reason to panic next season.

Shappy

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15 Jul 2012 11:40:59
no name. If it's more of the same, I'd love to see you "go postal".
Just wanted to congratulate Shappy on another great post. Loving the detail.
M.D.

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Marchisio or a strootman box to box midfielder is needed or look forward to another trophyless season !!

sparkyred

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Shappy please tell me your joking with sahin being good! Your judging him as a quality player but he hasnt even played in la liga! Sami Khedira had a great world cup but flopped for Real, anyone who says he hasn't is blind because I have never seen him sign significantly in any Real match. For me Sahin will be the exact same i dont want no Hargreaves again!!
I pray to god persons with these stupid rumours will stop posting, this site is becoming as useful as the papers when it comes to transfers... Pray the admins will sort this BS!

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14 Jul 2012 16:49:24
To the EDs and Anyone who can actually add to it,

What is actually going on with Lucas Moura ?

Have there been talks ? Is it serious ? Is it ongoing ? Are we actually in for him or is all media BS ? Is there a serious chance of getting him or is it all just for show ?..

CalamityManc! {Ed002's Note - I have explained already. RTFP.}

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The club are interested in the player; The father of the Brazillian accepted an invitation to OT and talked about a transfer to United last season. I believe United have sent representatives to Brazil and have made a bid - some say £23m, others £25m but United know that Inter have no money, Chelsea are interested in other players and actually dont have room for him, and its all down to the club increasing the offer. I believe £29-32m will be accepted. Lucas father says he is ready, the player wants a new challenge, and the club must be holding out for more money due to the contract saga!
If the club didnt want Lucas Moura to go, then all they had to do would be release a statement as the young player is still under contract.
So to summarise, the club just wants more money, the father of the player says he is ready and the player wants a new challenge. The good thing for United fans is that they must do a deal before Lucas Moura plays in front against England next Friday and the Olympic tournament before the value increases!

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Lucas moura would be a great signing 4 us but I just can't c it happing after watching a few videos of him he as bags of skill and would be a pleasure 2 watch in a red shirt. RegTheRed

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14 Jul 2012 16:49:21
any united interest in De Rossi ed ?

AVO {Ed002's Note - No.}

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14 Jul 2012 15:22:48
I am certain we will get two more players, Fergie will be waiting to see how a few things progress and players will become available soon who aren't just yet. I think khedira may become available and i wouldn't mind him, baines will eventually come too.

too many of us are paniking due to the fact we only have two players even though there is ages left in this window.

1redarmy

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I believe we3 should go for sneijder again if cant get lucas moura

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I think the main reason people would panic is because fergie likes his buisness done early to get the players adjusted

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14 Jul 2012 15:21:23
Edd i believe we may go for Izzaguire(£10m) in place of Baines,then Eriksen(£17m)........,maybe Lucas Moura if it all goes well or Jao Moutinho if we fail to sign both Modric and Moura ......what do u think? {Ed002's Note - Baines could well move. Eriksen perhaps.}

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Eriksen for £17 million? You're having a laugh mate. If you're on about Christian Eriksen who plays for Ajax then you're looking at closer to £35 million...

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I imagine £25m would be closer to the mark.

Sydney!

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Erikson would be a great signing. Do we have a chance?Roland {Ed002's Note - Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and AC Milan have shown some level of interest in Eriksen in the past few months. He has already rejected both Manchester City and Chelsea but AC Milan remain the most interested club. The Milan Press Office are convinced of interest from Manchester United and they have let it be known that they expect a bid to be made by for Eriksen who remains adament that he will stay in Amsterdam for two more years before moving to Spain. Expect AC Milan and Roma to press if a bid is made by Manchester United.}

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Izzagurie no way a mediocre player that plays for a poor team in an even poorer league

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14 Jul 2012 14:04:33
there are reports coming out today that we are in talks with christian erikson for a 17mill deal so looks like the lucas moura rumours were just a smokescreen. although would be wise not hold ones breath :)

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14 Jul 2012 12:37:34
Could it be that the United delegation sent out to talk to Lucas Mouras representatives apparently, could infact be a smoke screen for Ganso ? Perhaps we are talking to Gansos representatives.
sparky {Ed002's Note - No.}

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14 Jul 2012 19:12:54
Ganso does not want to play with Neymar and wants to move with Man utd on the alert. is it coincidence that utd are in Brazil?

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14 Jul 2012 12:05:55
ed is it true that spurs are trying to involve benzema in the modric deal? Also with moutinho spurs bound, are there any other options for united in cm? {Ed002's Note - It sounds very unlikely. Eriksen perhaps?}

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Thanks ed002, my friend is a spurs fan he mentioned it to me last night. i hope united do look to strengthen in the cm this season. have you heard more on eriksen or just what you already know? tom17 {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new.}

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There's no chance of Benzema being part of the deal

melwing28

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Thanks ed002 tom17

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As a spurs fan, maybe i could shed some light? i have previously posted regarding the modric/moutinho situation! i have not heard anything regartding benzema? nor have i been told anything regarding benzema! i only know there are players who will be arriving, one being moutinho, another being lloris there are supposed to be more but nothing seems to be getting out? muniain and lopez plus another forward have been mentioned but nothing concrete? but benzema... no, im not sure the erikson to united rumour is true or not? i was told it was just paper rumours??

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14 Jul 2012 12:01:37
Ed002, good afternoon. Have you heard anything about those 9+9 homegrown rulings coming into play? SAF mentioned something about possible new legislations coming in. Is this what he is talking about? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Platini's proposed matchday ruling would look to limit the players available during the game to nine not homegrown. It will not happen in the short term as I would expect the European Comission would block it. Similar plans have failed as home grown reserves would end up padding the bench and effectively have their career moving backwards. I don't think we will see this change happen any time soon - the longer term perhaps something could happen. Individual countries already impose local limits - Italy by a quota system for purchases outside of the Italian league. Spain has the Cotonou Agreement where African and Caribbean players are not counted against non-EU quotas (due to the Kolpak ruling), Ukraine limits non homegrown players on the pitch to seven etc.. All of these anomolies would need to be worked out before you can get the balance right.}

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Thanks Ed.

Sydney!

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I hate all these rulings meant to help the young players development for the national teams if a young player is good enough they,ll make it if they are not they won,t just look at Smalling,Jones, Cleverly and Powell and that,s just at United.

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14 Jul 2012 11:48:12
I very much feel that if we don't get either Modric or Moutinho, then we will not sign a 'big' central midfielder this summer. In terms of availability, there are not too many players available out there that could improve our squad. If Anderson and Cleverly can stay fit then they will be like new signings, I also expect Petrucci and Tunnicliffe to have a fair few chances. I still think that we need someone in their to replace Fletcher and Park's energy as we don't have that player now to be honest. Thats why I think the Dembele rumours have surfaced, if he does sign, then he will be a bit part player I imagine. I am positive that Baines will sign, and I think that the only other possible signing may actually be Nico Gaitan still. It says in the player profiles that he likes to drift inside, so there is every chance that Fergie will think he can convert him into someone to play alongside Carrick in the middle - its quite possible I think. Nico Gaitan, Moussa Dembele and Leighton Baines along with Nick Powell and Shinji Kagawa would be a pretty good summer by all accounts - however I still hope that we can see a stellar central midfield signing. I wouldn't expect the Eriksen reports to be true though, he wants Spain / stay at Ajax.

RedDevil19

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The fact Dembele and Baines are mentioned as part "of a good summer" just about sums up where we are at moment, sorry but if this is supposed to challenge Europes elite I have an inkling they won't be shaking in their boots!, as for Gaitan, we may well get him because I dont think there's any interest from anywhere else!

Charla

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There are reports linking us to erikson and we know sfa rates him mite be more bull but fingers crossed he is the type were after and can only get better him and kagawa along with scholes carrick and cleverly are all good retainers passers and i can see us having better possession than last few seasons and are attack is full of pace rooney wellbeck chicharito young nani valencia also if erikson is are target we should get him for around 20 m euros so not overly priced and baines is probably coming to he reminds me of irwin and a true free kick speacilest should be a fluid exciting fast paced united with all the attributes we want as fans

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One or two of M'vila, Witsel, Fellaini, Dembale, Moutinho, Eriksson, Tiote, Cabaye, Marvin Martin, Ganso, Gotze, Van Der Vart, Modric, Sossoko, would all do us brilliantly. They are all light years better than Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs Scholes etc. On his day Scholes is still excellent, but he can only last an hour for maybe a game every two weeks. We are down to ONE decent central midfielder -Carrick.--- Jones, Petrucci, Powell Tunniclffe have potential. May be Valencia could play midfield, or Rooney, but we need his dynamism further up the pitch. Kagawa, an excellent buy, is going to play in the hole. If we really have offered 25m+ for Modric, Lucas and Rodriguez, then surely we can use the money to buy one top midfielder, Fellaini, Moutinho, Ganso etc. or swop Anderson and 12m for Witsel and 12m for Dembale. Could any of you see Anderson, Cleverley, Giggs etc play for city, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, or even Newcastle, let alone the top Spanish, French, German, and Italian teams. We have to win games with a goalkeeper,8 great outfield players and two midfielders only fit for the lower half of the premier league. There truly are midfielders of a far higher level than ours, available for 10m - 30m. Even the Glazers must understand that without success on the pitch, the revenue streams will start to lessen. Plus the amount of value the shares, they wish to float, would loose value very quickly,meaning any further share sales would be of a far lower value. It's not just a question of trophies for the club we love,(though this is what bothers me), it's a question of straight forward business sense. Come SAF, DG and the Glazers get us a bloody midfield!!

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Feillani,tiote or dembele would not improve us i for one would want strootman for 15 million or martinez for the same price as modric now thats value for money.

sparkyred

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If you think Fellaini wouldn't improve us, you haven't really watched him, He is top notch, a far stronger player than one season wonder Strootman, who I do like, but hasn't proved himself like many of the others I've mentioned. For a 10 -12m punt Dembale is a worthwhile investment. he is more consistent and skillful then Anderson or Cleverley. They both are really injury prone and in the case of Anderson lacks stamina and ability. Cleverley, 0 goals and a couple of assists in the EPL for United, looks really average at best. We have the weakest midfield in the whole of SAF time at Old Trafford. . Lets hope the Eriksen gossip has some truth behind it. Else our midfield will be full of old, overrated, unfit, injury prone sub standard players. United being the greatest club in the Universe deserve better. If we finish up with Kagawa, Powell, Eriksen and Baines, it will have been a fairly good close season. If we were to add Fellaini, M'Vila and yes even Strootman to that, it would be an excellent close season.
Mik

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14 Jul 2012 10:15:03
Manchester United are preparing a £10million bid for Everton left-back Leighton Baines, according to the *imes !

Toffes want around 18 million :(

Lakhanus

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I thought Everton wanted £16 Million and United were to offer £12-13 Million, now United are to offer £10 Million and Everton want £18 Million!

I love the transfer window :)

Ports

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This is likely to carry on for sometime sadly. I wanted Baines to go on the tour to get to know his new team mates and settle quicker. There is a chance it will be completed in time for the tour, but it's unlikely. I think the manager will want Baines to join the tour when Rooney, Welbeck etc return. I think they join up in two weeks so perhaps the deal can be agreed by then?

Sydney!

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I really hope we do not pay more than £13m for him! The prices that are being quoted for the past few weeks are rediculous.

melwing28

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It's just a matter of time, they struggle to keep hold of any decent players. Poor club who need the money.
Devile

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There will be no more signings, man utd wil not pay 18-20m for baines and they will not get mountinho, modric or lucas

it was always going to be difficult to get 1 or 2 of these players mainly due to clubs always wanting more money when its man utd trying to buy them

i for one am really happy with the squad that we have with the 2 new boys powell & kagawa, we also have a fully fit vidic back, cleverley is back, and so is anderson who i still rate. and i am very confident this squad can go on to win the EPL this coming season

i was hoping as i am sure all united fans were that we would go and spend spend spend and get these players but while the glazers are still in charge that will not happen

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Baines is goin nowhere. evertonian through n through unlike rooney. also, if u think ur gettin barkley in afew years ur very sadly mistaken. baines 2 score winner on 20th august. haha

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If you are honest with yourself how can you say we will win the league with the current squad we have?
Yes having Vidic coming back is a huge boost which will help out at the back, but going forward and killing teams off is where we struggled. We need to invest in a top striker, Rooney cannot carry the team every week, no are we always going to play with one up front. We need to have a striker stay up top, not come deep or forced out wide.

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He might leave if he wants to win trophies haha

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He may well get the winner, after being played through by Rooney!, surely that's what you mean?, we're talking about August here and Everton don't normally get their 1st win under their belts till January!lol, anyways, for me your welcome to him, overrated and over priced

Charla

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Correct, Baines will score the winner, he will place the ball into Howard's top right.

Sydney!

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Man united fans need to get a serious grip of themselves , your only going to fall further behind city next season , Rooney proved himself to be an over rated bum at the euros(not international standard) , Welbeck is mediocre and that person Ferdinand should be shown the door

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Go onto the everton page n all the scouser are really panicking about loosing baines, its hilarious, the slightest mention that baines might come to us and they all start throwing insults at you, it doesnt take long for them all start bleating on about how city are miles ahead of us, its comical

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I think Everton are hoping this happens as then that way they will get another one of our players possibly that we don't use that much :)

melwing28

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14 Jul 2012 10:11:38
A detailed transfer watch...who willbe a united player within few Dayzz ! = Dixon (India)

-- Today Sir Alex mentioned in the press conference that there is a still room for one or two signings so lets make a guess which one it would be ,we will provide you the current situation of the deals and you will predict ,lets see who gets his prediction right

* Joao Moutinho =

Manchester united previously offered a bid of 20 million for the Portuguese and Porto play maker but today very strange news came from the Porto boss Vitor Pereira where he admits that the Tottenham ’s target Moutinho will leave the club this summer .As we know that AVB is a great admirer of Moutinho since he was the boss at Porto and he wished a reunion by saying that

“He was one of the most important players at Euro 2012. He had a fantastic tournament.”

“He was an important player for Porto in the two seasons in a row when they won the title.”

“Those sort of players will always be interesting to us. It doesn’t mean it’s the only target we’re looking at, but if something happened then of course we would look upon him with some interest.”

* Lucas Moura =

Sir Alex is an admirer of the young Brazilian attacking midfielder and he wanted to land him at old Trafford before the start of their pre season friendly tour .Sir Alex even sent a delegation to Brazil for Negotiation and also offered a bid of 20 million plus for Moura

And after Sao Paolo’s Director of Football Joao Paulo de Jesus Lopes mocked Inter Milan’s £20m bid to capture him ,Manchester united are considered favourites to sign him .

In his latest Interview Joao Paulo was furious on the bid made by Inter Milan, he averred : ‘How can you pay €25m (£20m) for a player of Lucas’s quality? Italian football is broke – the club (Inter) are broke. It seems they are creating this to satisfy the fans.’

* Luka Modric

Another target of Manchester united but Manchester united are facing tough competition in the form of Real Madrid for him .Although Today Andre Villas Boas made it clear that Modric will leave Tottenham but not on a low price .AVB is certainly demanding heavy price from the Modric’s followers.AVB told that

“The interest Luka is getting from a number of different clubs is the same as he got last year. Luka is a player of major importance for the club and that’s why he attracts so many.”

“It is in the hands of the chairman to accept the right proposition. Chelsea were involved last year so there is nothing new in the situation. There is interest and the player raises interest.”

“If the player’s ambition is to move, we can respect that.”

“But there are club interests that the chairman will defend and only when the right offer is met, will there be more news.”

* Robin Van Persie =

Reports are saying that two days back Sir Alex were in London for Labour Party Sports Dinner at Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium and sources determines that Sir Alex is still in the hunt for Van Persie but United’s rivals Manchester city are determined to sign the Dutch striker who refused to extend his contract at Arsenal.

* Leighton Baines=

As David Moyes wanted to keep his all important left back at the club but Everton at the moment badly requires money and Manchester united are looking to cash in this Opportunity however Sir Alex told ManUtd.com that

“I’ve been aware of what’s been said in the press but I don’t know much beyond that,”

Baines said, according to ESPN. “It doesn’t do any harm but it doesn’t do any good either. It’s just one of those things that tends to swing around this time of year. People put two and two together sometimes they get four and sometimes they get three or five. It gets other people more excited than those involved.”SO let c who will be with us within few days..hmmmm

DIXON (IndiA)

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That's easy, none of them!

Charla

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Good effort Dixon! well I think it would be a good bet that Baines will join this window the problem is the price personally I think £12m is a fair price and I don't think they're prepared to pay much more than that for him. From what I understand we were prepared to pay £32m for Hazard so there is good money available just depends if fergie fancies anyone and if they are available so who is on our shortlist really? what does Fergie think we need and who does he like? I can't see RVP coming myself, would love to see a quality defensive midfielder bought but from what I gather we are looking more at attacking midfielders there are a lot of names being floated around this site and I haven't a clue who we are seriously bidding for?

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12million affair price when u got 75million for that diver ronaldo dream on

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14 Jul 2012 10:09:01
Eds, is it true sao paulo have rejected a bid from united and are not planning to sell lucas moura? Thanks {Ed002's Note - There has been a bid rejected from Manchester United. However, there were no Manchester United representatives in Brazil last weekend looking for his agent as I explained he was in Colorado. As for selling, perhaps, but the situation with Lucas Moura is very complicated and it could drag out all summer and come to nothing at all. In terms of the bidding situation and to the best of my knowledge: Chelsea made two bids earlier in the year and Inter also made a bid in January. Real Madrid looked to a deal involving another player going in exchange but that came to nothing. His agent would prefer a part ownership deal with Inter. Manchester United remain interested in the player but probably not at a price that is acceptable to Sao Paulo and I as I said previously their bid would be unacceptable. I would not discount any of these clubs returning to try and strike a deal, nor would I discount him staying until the end of the year and discussions starting again in January.}

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14 Jul 2012 09:19:59
Defoe for sale......... What do u think guys for back up striker... Berba leave owen reitre..... We need back up for rooney... When roony injured chicha and welback not enough... What do u think ed or syddeep rider {Ed002's Note - Makes no sense to me.}

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He wouldn't offer anything different to what we already have.

melwing28

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Why would Defoe leave a team where he is 2nd choice and will play all cup games and most premier league games at some point(mainly as a sub admittedly) for one where he would be 3rd or 4th choice, this would be a very Owen thing to do...

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14 Jul 2012 06:33:25
Yarmolenko deserves a shout or a 8-10 mil bid

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14 Jul 2012 05:26:44
So, apparently, we've had a €33million rejected for Lucas Moura. Hardly surprising given that Chelsea had a £32.4million bid turned down. I just can't see this happening. Lucas Moura, as I was aware, played as a CAM. Shinji Kagawa who we just signed plays that very role, and SAF himself said his best position is in behind a striker.

I'd much rather we focused upon the area were we need some major investment. Central midfield. Luka Modric is perfect IMO. And even though a deal looks a million miles away with reports claiming Madrid are at loggerheads over reaching an agreement, I think we should pull out all the stops for the guy. We should at least attempt to get him. Alternatively Joao Moutinho has been linked. I'd have Modric but if he's Madrid bound then Moutinho is definetly a possibility. Spurs also have a serious interest but if it's a choice between us and them, surely there's only 1 winner? On top of that I still believe we need a bit of steel in the centre of the park. Moussa Dembele has also been linked, I think he would do a job for us, more likely he would come in January if we weren't to add or even next season as he enters the final year of his contract. Javi Martinez ticks all the boxes and more but that one won't be going any where as Bilbao want mega-bucks that we simply won't pay. More realistically I feel is someone like Axel Witsel. I don't like basing things on 1 performance but when Belgium played England before the Euro's he was outstanding! I think we could easily reach a deal with Benfica and even offload Anderson in the process. A cash + player? I think it's plausible. Shame for Ando though because he's never got going but I don't think we can afford to keep holding out for him to come good. Maraounne Fellaini is also an option and I would much rather we bought him from Everton than Leighton Baines. Perhaps not the most likely options however definetly players to look at in that department are Javi Garcia, Sami Khedira or Yann M'Vila.

All the criticism of Patrice Evra is a bit extreme but understandable. His performances certainly haven't been of the same standard as say 18 months ago. Leigton Baines continues to be the one heavily tipped to join United. Whilst I think we could do a hell of a lot worse, there are much better LB's for us to bring in. For me, Jetro Willems ticks every box. Evra isn't finished just yet and I think will remain an important player next season but by buying someone like Jetro Willems he would not just learn and improve his game but I believe gradually become the natural first choice LB. Izaguirre has been mentioned but I think it's far too soon for him. Not United standard that's for sure.

Quite a long post but just some food for thought!

Rosco.

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I agree that CM sholud be priority and Modric, then Moutinho would be my preference too

Not sure we're looking at 'steel' in midfield. Someone like Dembele might be a good option as a squad player if Fletcher and Ando are unlikely to return but I'm not sure he's good enough to take our starting XI to the next level

LB - for me Baines is the best option. Evra is way past his best. Fabio will return in a year at the age of 22? and Blacket is a promise at the age of 17? So why bring in another promising youngster like Willems to block them, when Baines could come in and imrove us from day one. With hopefully Fabio/Blackett trying to push him for a starting berth within a few years

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Has anyone thought if Fabio has a great season with QPR and becomes a better player, are we not wise to use him the following year? It's all good signing Baines while still having Evra, but what would people suggest happen to Fabio when he returns?
Is it really worth spending the type of money on Baines for what could possibly be just for one or two seasons?

melwing28

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14 Jul 2012 02:14:52
No wonder Sao Paulo want a fortune. If, for example, we paid £30m for Lucas Moura, Moura would get £6m of that fee because he owns 20% of his rights, which means Sao Paulo would only get £24m. It would take a payment overall of at least £36m to get him, not including wages, agent fees and signing on fees.

How confident are you now?

G.A.G.U.S

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If they want 30mil the overall deal would actually be 37.5mil, but I see your point.... I still think it would be worth the money.

BornRed

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And from August 1st, he will own 30%. Even less money for Sao Paulo. When they say it's a risk to not cash in now, this is pretty much what they mean.

G.A.G.U.S

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Not at all confident, but it's not because of the contract situation. August 1st the player gains another 10% of his contract to bump him up to 30%. So say they get the price up to 35mil, they'd only end up getting 24.5mil. They're best served by negotiating as hard as possible until late July. Doesn't mean the Glazers will agree or United will be able to close....-KG

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14 Jul 2012 01:01:48
Just read a fantastic profile on player-profiles.co.uk regarding Nico Gaitan (great job by the way guys!). Can't believe we're wasting time on a player like Moura to be honest! Spend our money on Gaitan, maybe even throw in a player into the deal (Nani maybe?) He could be really quality at United. Him on the left and Young...well I don't know about Young! Maybe he can play in the middle? Doubt it though!

Andy {Ed007's Note - The profiles are a great addition to the sites, I would recommend checking them out.}

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Totally agree. I'll bet we'll all be bemoaning this missed chance when he's considered one of the top five players in the world and we are trying to offload Moura to Galatasary for 5mil... not that I believe we are in for Moura either.

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Not even in Mars Gaitan is better than Nani! This is madness. Stop with Bulls**t. Gaitan is not better than Nani.

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Are you serious? Why would we get rid of Nani who has been our best player along side Valencia and Rooney and buy Gaitan who is unproven in the EPL, Nani on his day is 1,000,000x better than Gaitan, doesn't make sense to me...

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13 Jul 2012 23:24:24
Juvenal Juvencio (Sao Paulo President) has confirmed that Manchester United have made a £25 million bid for Lucas Moura. But it has been rejected & he won't be sold. He has said '‘It is a risk not selling Lucas, but we are going to take it"

This is in a couple of tomorrow morning's papers, if true it would be a huge shame in my opinion! No Hazard, Modric is looking highly unlikely & now Lucas... In Ando we trust?

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Silvio Berlusconi 1 week ago: "Thiago Silva is non-transferrable"

G.A.G.U.S

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Oh, and by the way, that one is true.
I just read in a big brazilian site that São Paulo rejected it. Truth be told, 25 million pounds was just too low. If he can reach up to 30 million pounds than it might be accepted.

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Still think this might happen the 25m bid is just a start but don't think we will go above 30m,
its just there way of saying they want more money

UNITEDFORLIFE75

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All rubbish ! So United have sent a delegation 1000's of miles only to be told he's not for sale ? sorry but if we really do have people over there then one would expect Moura to be on the return flight . sorry but to me its a load of b****cks.

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13 Jul 2012 23:07:28
Daily Fail now saying Lucas Moura won't be sold to United.

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13 Jul 2012 21:23:40
Hi guys,
l,equipe claim modric will sign 5 yr deal with madrid unfortunately
brendan

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13 Jul 2012 20:58:46
Lucas rumors getting a little stronger. Reports say we tabled a €33 million bid. We'll see if it actually happens.

Daniel

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