Manchester United Rumours Archive October 14 2012
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14 Oct 2012 13:08:31
I can't believe all of you's think anzi want to buy vidic a 31 year old for 30million pounds let alone 30mil euros. Why woudn't they just bid 35mil for hummels and get a 23 year old who is the best cb in the world at the moment. Anzi aren't stupid!
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Or Hummels is as well known and Vidic and right now Russian clubs will pay over the odds to get big names down there. When you think of the Russian league who do you think of? All I can think of is Eto'o and Hulk (Only big names there).
It isn't as much of how old they are it's their publicity, not many people will watch them for Hummels and I doubt Hummels would want to go there. But Vidic of the other hand people may want to watch them for him.
-JakeW
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Exactly! If we can sell vidic for £10m then bite their hands off.
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Because Anzhi know that they won't appeal to one of the worlds best up and coming Cb's in Hummels where as Vidic is on the wrong side of 30 and may be more open to one final big payday.
TK -Red
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Well they appealed enough to witzel and hulk who by many accounts are very good players.
And BTW i would not sell vidic for 10 million. The cost of replacing him would be immense and he still might get back to being his old best.
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What about when they signed Eto'o? Could they not have gone for aguero or falcao instead?
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NoMidfield, I wouldn't accept anything less than £20m for Vidic. You would have to be an imbecile to sell a 31 year old Vidic for £10m when we could get 3 more good years out of him. Even with an injured knee he was still our best defender this season.
Sydney!
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Zenit have spent 100million euros on witsel and hulk so money is not an object. dortmund wud accept anything like 30mil+ and all that is left is to double hummels wages. money talks so all this nonsense of a move won't appeal to him is rubbish.
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1- a fit vidic is ( was ) the best centreback in the world.
2- buying the captain of one of the world's biggest clubs is quite a big deal.
3- vidic is more likely to accept the transfer, and man united are more willing to sell ( considering the age ).
That's why they would prioitise buying vidic and not Hummels. On a side note vidic ( if he recovers ) is worth a minimum of 20 Mil pounds, but russian clubs have to overpay in order for the player to move ( thus guetting a more money for signing on fee ) because they are not very " attractive " clubs, like city when they first started buying.
Mick
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Vidic is not the best cb in the world for the last 12 months, cmon seriously take off ur tinted roses! best cbs now are hummels, silva, chieleni, kompany. im not saying we woudnt sell im sayin anzi wudnt spend 30million pounds on vidic get real! and stop being so biased
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Well, they paid 15 millions for Zhirkov, so yes they Are stupid. And it takes a lot og money to tempt anyone to go from Manchester to Dagestan.
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Well if Anhzi aren't stupid then they'll know that Hummels wont move to a Russian club at the age of 23 no matter how much money they offer him. He's clearly on his way to one of the best clubs in the world. I just hope it is United. Then we could have Smalling and Hummels, with Jones being used as a CDM or CB when needed.
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Hummels will prob go to barca next summer to replace puyol can't see him coming to man u.
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Take the money and run, vidic is going to struggle for fitness and its going to be a case of gets fi plays half a dozen games, breaks down for 2-3 months, gets fit plays half a dozen games and breaks down again. I think its about time we fleeced some club out of millions for a player with dodgy knees.
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I totally agree,vidic is a spent force.
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To all those saying Vidic is past it, this is playing out just like it did with Jaap Stam.
We sold Stam fearing that he wouldn't be the same player and he went on to play at the top level for a few more years.
And, if we were to sell him, it shouldn't be for anything less than 22 mn pounds.
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They appealed to Witzel and Hulk? I could've sworn that those 2 signed for Zenit. Zenit who play in the CL. If my memory serves me rightly, Ed002 said Anzhi aren't fussed about CL football and are happy to fly against the FFP rules so why would Hummels go? I imagine he would want CL football.
TK-Red
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Hummels is just coming into his prime and is one of the most promising CB's in the world whilst Vidic is coming to the end of his career....that makes quite a difference IMO. If I were Hummes I'd rather win some of the top trophies in Europe before taking 'one last pay day' in Russia
On Vidic though - I think we're jumping the gun a bit here! Let's give him a proper chance to recover and get back to form then make a decision when we actually know what we're talking about isit? Rather than making a snap judgement based on a handful of games following a major injury...having said that if we were to get a stupid offer I'd take it and replace him, lol
Gav
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They bought etto for stupid money
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Bcause hummels would not play for anzhi but vidic might as it is last years of his career and injury etc
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Anzi has just dismissed the idea so back to reality I guess if you believe them.
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14 Oct 2012 11:52:39
ED is there intrest in bringing shawcross back to the club ? just a rumour i have heard
Big V {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
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He is imo the best cb who doesnt play for " the big" clubs. I would say jagielka you could make a case for everton beeing a big club.
Mick
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14 Oct 2012 10:25:48
Rumours of vidic going to Russia for £30m. If we can get anywhere near that figure then sell him in Jan. Get hummels in . And pls saf buy falcao and let Hernandez and macheda go.
NoMidfield
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Falcao is not going to happen my friend.
Sydney!
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Falcao, not happened. However if 30m is offered for vidic we'd be fools not to take it provided the correct replacements are brought in........it's clear to see the both vidic and Ferdinand are starting to stay fit throughout the season......no brainer really
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The correct replacements are already there but Hummels would be great!
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Id let King go as well. I've heard Hummels say that one offer was of particular interest to him, do you know whos offer that was Ed?
Dan
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Why do peoe think we should get rid of Hernandez, In his top form I would rather have him partnering Rooney up front than rvp!! And jones and smelling between them that's a replacement for vidic that we already got, although I can't see vidic going nowhere! If anybody we need to replace rio!!
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Whoever just said theyd have hernandez with rooney up front rather than vp is a mentalist. i dont like slating people but youre nuttier than squirrel rubbish
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14 Oct 2012 09:48:00
Question for Ed002 if he is around. What do you make of these Vidic to Anzhi rumours? Are United trying to hawk him around to raise cash for another CB? Perhaps Hummels? What do you think is happening here? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - There is serious interest in Vidic from Anzhi but he is not being hawked around by the club to my knowledge. As for Hummels, it is possible. Hummels is perhaps an option for a January move and there is strong interest from Inter (who could potentially offer Sneijder as part of the deal) Barcelona and Juventus and there will no doubt be interest from elsewhere should he become available. I rather suspect Manchester United may look to making a bid. However, whilst Mehdi Benatia turned down PSG this summer he still interests Milan, Juventus and, I understand, Manchester United. So an option.}
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Thanks for the reply Ed. I know you are usually not one for talking about money, but what sort of amount do you think Anzhi are willing to pay for Vidic? Are these £32m rumours accurate or perhaps a little far fetched? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - It would be less Syd.}
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Ed, do you really think Borussia Dortmund could afford Sneijder's wage package, personally don't
RedKnight {Ed002's Note - Dortmund are well placed financially and very profitable. There turnover is healthy and they could, if they wished, make a very good offer to Sneijder. However, you are right inasmuch as they would probably not want to do that.}
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Ed002, my thoughts exactly. I think £22m would be more than acceptable for Manchester United. I think if somewhere around £20m was offered for Vidic that would be accepted and the Glazers would give the manager the green light to bid for Hummels.
Here's a question for you Ed, where do you think Phil Jones will be playing when he returns from injury? At the base of the diamond, right-back or sat on the bench as back-up for a CB position? You seem to have been correct about Rooney ending up in midfield, you called that way before it was comprehended.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I am afraid I have no real interest in formations Syd and would think you would have a better knowledge than I. I would think much will depend upon what additions are made to the squad.}
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Ed002, so are you expecting United to spend this January? Also is there any news on Nani? Are Zenit still interested? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Juve and Inter are possibilities for Nani Syd. Manchester United will spend if desired players are available at the right price.}
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Ed002, last questions ;)
Is there strong interest in Vidal from United and could Nani be used as a sweetener in such a deal? Again thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I would not expect a move for Vidal from Manchester United.}
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If we cant buy hummels I would rather we buy Papadoupoulos. The guy is a walking tank. he is not as good as hummels but better than benatia, but is younger than both and would save us about 10 million to invest elsewhere.
Mick
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Mick why not buy Subotic?
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Hi ed002, you mentioned that hummels might be an option for a january move? it seems a little unusual just wondering what the thinkin is behind it? thankyou in advance
Bedford Gooner {Ed002's Note - Hummels has made it clear that he would consider a move from Germany. There is interest from a number of clubs as I said - so a move in January is possible.}
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Vidal has come out and said he does not want to move and would actually like to finish his career with Juve. I don't see why Juve would sell a key player when they are competing for major trophies and financially in good shape. It is till a massive club, leading the Italian league and doing well in CL and on the up if you ask me.
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14 Oct 2012 00:02:37
Congratulations to Wayne Rooney on become the England Vice-captain! Would be nice to see him captain England once Gerrard steps down. Hopefully it will improve his game!
-JakeW
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I think its a done deal, when gerrard steps down, its rooneys, unless something drastic happens in the meantime.
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Making Gerrard captain was a massive mistake by Hodgson. He will be 35 at the WC and hasn't been the same player for the past five years. Liverpool fans will tell you that. Making him captain means he cannot be dropped now and England cannot improve until he is dropped. We should be moving forward playing the diamond, with Wilshere and Cleverley in the midfield and Rooney at the top of the diamond. Not sure who would play at the base of the diamond? Perhaps Jones who was exceptional against Spain.
Sydney!
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Carrick Syd. A midfield of Cleverley, Wilshere and Carrick would be good. Or like you said maybe a few years down the line Jones could take over from Carrick. That'd be a great young midfield trio. But yeah you're right about Gerrard too, he needs to go. I'd rather recall Scholesy which wont happen.
Ozwald
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Rodwell or maybe England should go with 3 in midfield, Powell, Cleverley and Wilshere, the midfield looks good! {Ed004's Note - Is Jones good enough on the ball and positionally to be a world class CDM. I am not doubting his work rate, his power and his tackling just his ability on the ball because if he isn't good on the ball teams will target him}
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De Jong, Mascherano and Makelele - 3 players who spring to mind that weren't great on the ball, but still extrmeely effective in that postion. If you have 3 other midfielders in front and around you who are good on the ball, then the person at the foot of the diamond doesn't have to be, all he has to do is work hard and break-up play.
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