Manchester United Rumours Archive August 15 2013
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15 Aug 2013 23:42:37
Genuine rumour - Peter Reid reckons a deal for Fellaini & Baines has been agreed. Bill Kenwright has insisted that the deal is done on deadline day, as he doesn't want to re-invest the money back in to Evertons squad & this would give him the ideal excuse without the risk of a backlash from fans.
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Hope baines isn't signed. Evra is a better defender and baines isn't exactly 21. If wee took their best two players andthey didn't want to reinvest, it wouldn't bode to well for evertons survival next year. I find this hard to believe.
In my opinion the reason this is taking so long is the complexity of the deals. Image rights etc. Which indicates The players we are negotiating with are high profile. I trust woodward he is bringing in millions in advertising revenue recently and seems to know what he is at
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Thats crazy. without those two they will be fighting to avoid relegation. So if they do go, they will need to have replacements lined up already. Use common sense.
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What's the difference between a genuine rumour and a rumour?
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Simzdav: "I trust Woodward he is bringing in millions in advertising revenue" . so what, what does that have to do with signing players? It merely reinforces the fact that he looks massively out of his depth in an unfamiliar arena like the transfer market.
Also, you criticise Baines for not being 21; well he's younger than Evra and is a better defender. I'd be v happy to have him at UTD.
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Evra is a better defender than Baines!What football have you been watching for the last two years.We aren't signing Fellaini, we never were.It's just lazy journalism.He's been linked fairly heavily three times.Once when Moyes took over, when Thiago chose Bayern and after Cesc had his press conference.
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No backlash from fans because they accept a deal on final day ROFL.Only those under treatment are going to believe Everton fans are going to be ok with that.
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Answer GDS2 is this one is genuine rubbish
Invisible STuey
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Silly as it sounds a friend of mine is an Everton fan and its beleived the club need to get the debt down and not rush to re invest so may not sound as far fetched as first beleived!
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And I actually AM an Everton fan - there is no need to get debt down (it is stable) and we are looking to reinvest everything we get.
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No backlash. Kenwright will be hunted down if this happens.
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15 Aug 2013 21:50:28
Ronnys house near Alderley which he still owns has been rented is all of sudden empty which I have worked round these areas for I while and get to know things some I can't repeat blue and red but it could be a small piece in the jigsaw hope so. I think there is going to be a deal that will make both parties happy rm m utd sponsers in this shock transfer their is allways a calm before the storm and it possibly could be one big one hope.
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Seriously why we not in for realistic first eleven improving players. most of us are in agreement we need two midfielders a creative 1 i.e fab/modric (which aren't realistic imo) not unless we pay 45 4 fab or 35 4 mod. BUT the play breaker and DM is pretty easy and fairly cheap gustavo 14/15mil or khedira around the same price mayb a little more. Definitly get in the squad and improve it imo and won't break the bank in the process
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Christian Eriksen should be a shout as a cheaper option could be got 4 15/18mil and if he flops has plenty of sell on value at 21yo probaly wouldn't loss much if at all on him aswell
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Eriksen is an "AM" in FM language, we don't need AMs.
Dan
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4 words for you. 'F*ck sell on value'. The sell on value days are gone. I assure you.
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Ronnys house in alderly was sold to Carlos tevez, d reason its empty is prob to do wit it being sold by tevez who obviously doesn't need it, but the question is would Ronny buy it back?
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Forget 'Cheaper Options'. United need to spend big to bring in top quality. Eriksen isn't top quality and Khedira would cost more than that.
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His first house was sold to Tevez. His 2nd house was put up for sale approx. 4wks ago and can be seen on the net for 3.85mil. I think this shows he ain't returning.
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I've just been told by a personal friend that there is lots of police and security at The Marriott Hotel, Worsley, which is a favourite spot for United players past and present. She has been told by a member of staff that Ronaldo is currently staying! let's hope he is coming back to the EPL!
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I live less that 5 minutes away from the Marriott on foot, I'll have a quick walk down there with the dogs and let you know that your friend is a liar.
Decent.
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Also heard that Ronaldo is in Manchester, shop has ordered a load of No7 and valencia has given up the number. Commercial staff been told an anouncement will be made in the next 48hrs and to be on call 24hrs till it is made.
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Probably because the house is up for sale.
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There are no police or security staff at Marriott in Worsley, just been in there myself.
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15 Aug 2013 18:22:11
Anyone heard about us bidding for Coentrao sp?
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We've just got interest on him. Yesterday Neville, round went to scout him. that's all.
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15 Aug 2013 15:24:46
17 million bid for cabye to be made
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Hope not. He is useless. No better than Cleverley or Anderson. If this is the big signing, then we might as well give up now.
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Completely disagree Nomidfield.
Cabaye is box to box midfielder we have been looking for / crying out for.
How you can mention Anderson and Cabaye in the same breadth is beyond me. I'm not a massive fan of Cleverley either but Cabaye is head and shoulders above what we have now save Carrick.
£17m is a great buy. Assuming its kosher which let's be honest who knows!
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Anderson and Cleverley are better.Really don't understand people always thinking the grass is always greener.All our midfielders are good players (not great) but we are weak there and need to strengthen.Only a Modric or Fabregas though and not a Cabaye.That would just be buying for the sake of it.
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Well if we get cabbaye that shows our ambition most underwhelming
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Cabaye had one good season and wasnt that great last year. In my opinion he's worth about 10m and nowhere near good enough for us. We need a solid powerful midfield.I would be in favour of kondogbia, he's younger and a real physical presence.
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Halesini
Have you watched Newcastle Cabaye has no pace or power he is ok on the ball but he isn't really box to box. I would be surprised if we were interested anyway.
Big Bill
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With Nomidfield on this one, Cabaye? We are Manchester United aiming to be the best, can you imagine a press conference where Moyes and Woodward announce we have signed Cabaye because he is the best? When the laughter amongst the press ceased they would pull us to pieces. If you asked our players for who challenged them do you really think Cabayes name came up?
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Cleverley would struggle to get in the squads of Europes other elite teams. As for fatty Anderson, when he's fit, once every 6 weeks he can be fair, until he gets out of breadth afrter 45 minutes. Cabaye is streets better than these two.Rose tinted specs in hyper drive by some of you fellows.
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Rather have Fellaini than Cabaye.
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Cabaye not good enough for United seemingly but can cut it regularly for the French national team. Most bizarre.
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Cabeye has quality but not what we need. He is quite similar to Modric. Probably stronger on the ball than Modric but no real pace and has not been tested at a top team. I do believe that although they play different positions I would rather have Fellani as I think he would strengthen us more. Of course I would rather Fab or Modric but if it was a choice between Cabeye and Fellani I would choose Fellani. unless we bought both?
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I have to expect none of you have actually watched Newcastle very much. Cabaye was a massive stand out player his first year and last year was injured twice in the first couple of minths and Pardrew has openly admitted he brought him back far too early as he felt he had to as his team were flagging. Its no coincidence that even though they were never in any real danger when Cabaye giot back to playing properly Newcastle pulled clear of danger.
I suppose Blanc with all his money at PSG is stupid for picking out Cabaye as the one he wants with him?
Or maybe he sees what only a few on here can and that is he is a gem of a player and when the Vidals, Fabregas's are unavailable he is right up there with the best about especially for that price!
Nio better than Anderson or Cleverly there is literally no point in arguing against red tinted specs like that.
Cabaye would be an improvement simple as that and add creativity, bite and interceptions all in one, plus knows the league, best years coming up and is used to this country. For 15-20m there is not much more of an instant improvement out there.
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Pardoe
How is signing Cabaye showing underwhelming ambition?
Top player in a position we need and a safe bet for the price. The reason we have not signed any world class players is because nobody wants to sell them, the reason no other 'big' teams are after him is that no other big team has the problems in CM as they all have their CM sorted and most include top CMers already.
Although I will agree if we could get ANY player in the world I myself wouldn't pick Cabaye as Vidal would be my instant pick but when none else are available as our Fabregas persuit has shown we still need to get bodies in and Cabaye IMO would be top of the next band down and is definitely needed.
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15 Aug 2013 13:42:20
Fabregas will be presented to the crowd at
OT at the Chelsea game 40mill
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Total BS.
Are we presenting Ronaldo, Messi and Bale at the same time?
Cant just right total BS stories.
Pathetic.
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15 Aug 2013 15:01:31
Would love that, and Ronaldo lol
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So far everything on here has been BS regarding transfers this summer. Why is this one any worse? Because it didn't start with "a friend of mine who works at a petrol station saw. "
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Please can you let me know when he is spotted at Manchester Airport as that is when it REALLY gets exciting.
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You forgot to mention Modric Mata Ozil Kondogbia and everyone "linked" with United.
You have to laugh. Otherwise you'd cry.
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It has been reported that barca play 5 times before the window closes so we are going to monitor his participation in those 5 before placing another bid.
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So barca say he's not for sale, fabregas says he's staying but we'll believe a paper story instead, awful post
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Redmist?
Is it same as optimist? Or inspired from optimist.
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I was thinking he was the RedMist from that movie Kick-*** :D
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A friend of mine who works at a petrol station saw.
. Ronaldo, Fabregas and Baines all boarding a bus to Carrington.
Well I'm convinced ;)
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Probably in a Chelsea strip the way things are going : )
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Whilst I doubt he would be presented at the Chelsea game, I posted a few days ago, before the latest rumours, that I understood there was still an outside chance of Fabregas. I wouldn't put my house on it but the way it was handled was indeed different, different enough to pose a few thoughts that any deal may not be completely dead
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Why wait?
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Wishful thinking. Would love it to happen but he has said he is happy at Barcelona and cannot see him changing his mind. We will probably have all the Fabregas rumours again come next Summer.
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Maybe i'm overly optimistic but something tells me this deal will happen, it just doesn't make any sense the way we have handled this "transfer" unless we have got some sort of encouragement from both fabregas and barca
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15 Aug 2013 08:53:37
According to Spanish press mainly 'Francois Gallardo' if United were to bid £40 million mesut Özil will come due to overcrowding at Real Madrid as bale is imminent
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Ozil is probably there best central midfielder I doubt it, but I would prefer Ozil to Fabregas
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Ozil would defiantly be there first choice at Madrid so I doubt he'd move
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He's not really a centre mid. Plays in same position as kagawa
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Ozil is not a central midfielder and not what we need! Too many FM players here. He plays in the same position as Kagawa, Rooney and Januzaj. We need a central midfielder not an attacking midfielder or someone to play behind the striker, we have plenty of them already. Ozil can't play in a 2 man midfield.
Dan
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Ozil is as much of a central midfielder as Fabregas is and I don't hear any of you saying "don't sign Fabregas". We need 2 midfielders and, if signed, Ozil would be 1 of them. That wouldn't change the fact that we still need, what the Football Manager generation call, a DM or CM.
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With Wayne Rooney seemingly on his way, Ozil would be a better replacement, but I would be highly surprised if he comes,
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Ozil other than messi is the best 'no 10' in the world, although messi has a more free and forward role. Which like stated is the same position as rooney and kagawa. any1 who claims kagawa is better lmao. is a fool, especially as he played a bit part season playin out of position more often then not. somethin fergie did with certain players that I didn't completely agree with. anderson as a holdin mid instead of the 'no 10' I thought we had signed. rooney on the wing. phil jones I understand but if continues under moyes will lose faith as the boys a future cb captain for r selves and england. but basically were a joke for the world 2 see. these rumours started on some blog I believe but I was readin on a RM forum yesterday and even there laughin at how deperate we r lol. news travels fast, I can see us doing very limited business. 1 last thing ronaldo bale fabregas ozil r definitly not sporting a devil on there chest next season
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Ozil will wrongly play second fiddle to Isco and Modric
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Fabregas can control the game and set the tempro, Ozil cant. Ozil plays further up with great vision and passing but he can't dictate the game. Fabregas and Modric are realistic top class deeper lying play makers we can sign. Ozil has never played in the 2 of a 4231 because he couldn't do it, Fab has done it and done it very well with Arsenal. Watch the players play and Learn what football is about for gods sake. Ozil is an "AM" for you FM lot. Fabregas can play either and is a top deeper lying central midfielder
Dan
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We don't really need an attacking midfielder. we already have one in Kagawa who could be just as good if they ever used him properly. they need a stabilizing midfielder like Fellaini and a creative box to box midfielder. They will probably sign one of those two player types and allow an internal competition for the other role. Januszaj was re-signed for a reason, they will bring him along slowly but he will see time this season.
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15 Aug 2013 08:49:20
40 Million going in AGAIN for Cesc! what is the point.
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To try and sign him I assume?
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They must have encouraging news from the cesc camp. To bid again.
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If this is the case either Moyes wants his man bad and/or they are getting some encouragement from the club/player/agents.
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They have obviously received some encouragement from both player and club so maybe that's the point!
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United are obviously getting encouragement from Barca and/or CF.He is desperate for first team football pre world cup but has to remain a loyal Catalan unless Barca accept bid.His game time in first few games of season could be crucial.
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More paper BS
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15 Aug 2013 12:02:49
One last attempt to sign him.? You got to admit it would be worth it if we got him. Fabregas would be a very, very good signing for Manchester United.
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Hasnt he just damaged his ankle ligaments?
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What's the point he's sick that's the point and the majority of our midfield wouldn't b fit to wash his boots.
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If he's sick what a waste of £40 million
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There must be some sort of encouragement.
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15 Aug 2013 08:34:17
I think the big question here should be why would Moyes make a trip to the smoke to appear on telly on a wed night when the pl starts on sat!
Could he have business in London with a pl club?
Could he running Utds intended business thru the clubs financial branch based in London where all business regarding the club is actually done.
Could it be the opportunity to speak with Rooney away from Manchester?
Could it be related to either Bale - Utd or Rooney -Chelsea?
Could it be an attempt to persuade Keane back into our Midfield. If only!
Could it be a sign that our Transfer activity is about to be made public on Friday after being rubber stamped by our financial wizards today?
Or is it easier for players to fly into London than Manchester that is currently being stalked by press?
Hmmmm.methinx Friday things will fall into place!
And in answer to the question where is woodward. London still. Has been since the CS on Sunday. Interesting eh!
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Or he's getting paid by itv to be a pundit!
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Moyes and vidic are doing something with the. Premier league.
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Maybe he was there to show he's not arsed that Rooney was playing. That would be a good move.
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PR exercise and he is Scottish as well remember England were playing Scotland. I think you are reading far too much into it in desperation
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Not to keen about our/any manager being a pundit to be honest.
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What a useless post.
And the can't be arsed about Rooney post, did not make any sense at all. If we're not arsed about Rooney, then Moyes needs his head testing.
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Premier league new season launch is in London today, hence motes is in London. End of!
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Or because he a scot and new.man u manager so itv offered him money to sit there and talk about game like when they have anyone on as a pundit
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I am not arsed about Rooney and the slightest, he can please himself as far as I am concerned.
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Or we just have a commercial office in London. Facepalm.
Dan
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Could it possibly be to watch some of his players play and his beloved country, oh and don't forget an appearance fee.
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Absolute useless post. Could he be there to offer analysis on the game? The mind boggles.
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Moyes is Scottish and had a chance to watch the game and correct any disinformation on United.
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15 Aug 2013 03:41:25
United joining race for Bale and bids for fabregas are smoke screen. The goal remains to sign Everton pair and also to secretly work on a deal along with Nike to bring back CR7. If joining the bale race can help trigger Madrid to act it moves the ronaldo deal one step closer
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Load of rubbish. Clubs do not bid £35m as a "smoke screen". The sooner people get that out of their heads the better.
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Such unsubstantiated rubbish . whilst you're at it, any chance of a cheeky bid for Messi? Behave.
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Do you not think if we were going to signg Felliani we would have done now before his clause ran out? Said all summer Strootman, Felliani, Garay none will be signed, and there is no evidence of any genuine interest in any of them
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We will not sign Fellaini. Especially not now the clause has expired and he will now cost more.
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Ronaldo isn't happening.
Fabregas, Fellaini and Baines may happen
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The Everton deal has every chance of happening, Moyes obviously likes to have people he can trust as he shown with backroom staff and he knows and trusts both of them. Also to compare a bid for Ronaldo to a bid for Messi is fairly unitelligent tbh, your comparing a player he still holds strong emotional ties to OT that he never quite had to Real and whose sponser wants him out of Adidas kit with a player who is unsellible and made for Barca. Just because their worlds best two players that's where the comparison ends really. Oh and anyone saying smoke screens don't happen need to remember their history, ever remember the Collymore/Cole saga!
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15 Aug 2013 00:05:08
Ogden (Telegraph) reporting were to try again for Fabregas at £40m.
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