16 Aug 2012 23:21:00
There is an interview w/ De Gea on his thoughts about RVP. I'd just imagine him introducing him to the team and recalling when he saved his penalty kick.
Manchester United Rumours Archive August 16 2012
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16 Aug 2012 23:20:27
utds final piece in jigsaw is about to be completed we are in advanced talks with athletico bilbio to sign one of their midfielders i dont have any more imfo on a name at moment this is back door hush hush deal.all will become clear very soon.intheknow
This could actually be true, Munain has been continuously strongly linked wit us...
Jake F
Yep let's spend Moura money on Martinez please.
Supasub
I doubt it, they are already losing Martinez to Bayern and Llorente is likely yo leave too. And seeing as they only sign Basque players then they are not gonna want to lose any more players. The only options it could be if there is some truth in it is Oscar De Marcos or Ander Herrera.
Shappy
Martinez has signed for bayern my Spanish friend has told me its either de Marcos or Herrera he's not sure which one we like both!
Colan.
My spanish friend says it could be Herrera or de Marcos we have a strong interst in both but in the past he has told me of serious interest in munian.
Caolán.
Its herrera
Ralph
De Marcos or munain please
16 Aug 2012 23:02:13
Online now saying RVP will pocket £250k a week. Do they not know how United roll under the Glazers? At the very most it will be the same as what Rooney gets, a basic salary of £160k a week plus top bonuses based on his scoring, silverware wins etc.
The Glazers are many things, but they are not stupid. Everything nowadays at United is based on a bonus scheme dependent on the club's success.
Sydney!
I hope this is true - entice them to play better! I must say I thought it unlikely we would pay RVP a huge basic pay like the Ł225k-250k being said in the press. Like you said we are United and have to be sensible with our funds as we're self sufficient. I could be wrong though
Gav
16 Aug 2012 22:23:44
Expect one more signing lads! Been given a good tip off that United will sign a young player/mid fielder, hope its Dembele/Witsel, but i have my doubts. But one more signing for sure, trust me.
Josh
16 Aug 2012 21:24:37
Robin Van Persie started his medical at 21.10 GMT , Deal to be finalised by noon tomorrow , RVP will be unvieled at press confrence
Jasper
16 Aug 2012 21:08:04
Don't know whats happening but RVP has left Old Trafford and my source claims they could not reach an agreement on personal terms.
There are whispers the deal is off.......
Yeah yeah yeah
Off for his medical you person
What that BS all about??
Cannot blame them for trying, sadly for the OP two minutes after he posted this pathetic post, RVP turns up for his medical.
Very bad timing lad.
Sydney!
Could we please change the button txt from "Reply to this rumour" to "Respond to bull-rubbish". OMG.
Timbo
Lol can't believe people pressed the I believe this button. You don't suppose we already talked some ball park figures before he held out on moving to us
Obviously this came from a pi**ed off ARSEnal fan, Muppet! Talks must have broke down hence why he left OT for his medical with the biggest smile seen on his face to date with the excitement of finally joining a 'real' club :)
Ren
16 Aug 2012 21:05:40
Just to let everyone know there is currently a problem in agreeing terms with rvp so don't get too excited just yet
Redjay
Redjay, you mustn't be taken in by the bitters. He has undergone his medical and will sign late tonight or early tomorrow.
Sydney!
16 Aug 2012 21:24:30
City wanted henriquez, he went and ****ed them off, like rooney did before him, and same as berbatov, then they tried van persie, he signed for us instead, despite the lies they told him, they know manchester is red.
Stretford ender
16 Aug 2012 20:33:54
Van persie seen coming out of bridgewater hospital "all smiles
WYTHENSHAWE RED
He's havin it now.
Caolán.
That was going in lad, he'll be in his medical till about 11-12.
Ment going in sorry
WYTHENSHAWE RED {Ed007's Note - You're getting a tad overexcited there, you don't know if you're coming or going!}
16 Aug 2012 19:58:02
Has RVP had his medical yet?
Cheers
Cban
Having it now just been on Ssn
He is undergoing it at the moment.
Jake F
Having it now.
Sydney!
He just arrived about 30 mins ago
Taking place right this minute...
RedKnight
He is under going a medical at the moment
RVP is having his medical right now 21:30
He's having it now
Doing it now mate.
Caolán.
Having it now, arrived at 9:10pm
Thaaaanks guys,
cban
16 Aug 2012 19:53:01
Looks like Ed002 may be right about Witsel!
Portugese papers going to run story in morning that MUFC sending a delegation to Portugal next week after sending a formal letter expressing interest and suggesting fee of around £23m
Hope this is accurate but only paper talk at the moment apparently fed by Witsel's agent who's client is encouraging the story
Cheshire Red
Going for the wrong Belgian centre midfielder.
Fellaini is far superior in my opinion and would cost just as much, similar age and with prem experience.
Cban
Our last deleagation wasn't successful!
Caolán.
Our last deleagation wasn't successful yes it was we agreed a deal for lucas but P$G step in
Manutd4ever
16 Aug 2012 19:17:44
Now Anita is going to Newcastle, what about a quick move for Davide Santon? I personally think he could be good for rotation with Evra.
Supasub
David Moyes has said Anita will be used as a CM.
Jake F {Ed007's Note - What's it got to do with Moyes?}
Sorry this was my friend (city fan) thinking he was funny..
Jake F
Santon LB - Anita CDM makes no sense for them to sell Santon
16 Aug 2012 18:55:58
Why are Man Utd in National Group 2 for the new Premier Youth League set up? Is that basically the second division?!
Anyone know anything about it? Cheers.
DodgyBanter
Its not divisions mate just split into groups based on squad players and the size of the reserve team
The leagues are not in order of quality.
Sydney!
No, from what I've heard its different qualifying groups for the later stages of the competition. It's not like the premier league It works sort of like the CL
There just random groups
From what i heard on TV there are no divisions just 22 teams 1 group of 8 and two groups of 7. in each league they play each other home and away with 2 home games having to be held at the actual club stadiums.
also they are allowed 1 over age keeper in the squad and 3 over age outfield players
The games are played friday, saturday,sunday or monday
jple23
16 Aug 2012 18:25:31
we don't need to buy a LB unless they only have a season left in them, as we have Fabio out on loan, and Blackett rising up through youth, why buy a LB and block those two out? one of them will be Evra's successor, and unless we get someone on loan we don't need anybody, we can play Blackett there against the lesser teams, and as a poster posted this morning Giggs can also play there, and Jonny Evans is no stranger to LB. They may not be LB by trade, but look at Valencia, Jones and Smalling, they are our only cover for RB and none of them are RB's. If we do invest in another player it will be a CB or CM as wehave alot of injuries in those areas, and with players ageing they need resting too.
Jake F
Evra isn't good enough at LB, let alone Evans or Giggs. If we want to improve we must buy a LB. Pointless strengthening the attack whilst leaving the defence sh1te.
Sydney!
Been saying this all summer when people say lets get Baines in.
Why spend money on a player for a one year solution. When Fabio comes back next season, he may be developed. So why have 3 LBs.
melwing28
I agree to a point, but if Evra was to get a long term injury a few days after the transfer window closes then we would be stuffed. Giggs Brady and Blackett can cover short term or in games where we'll be under less pressure but against the top teams i think they'd struggle. And for the two young lads that could have a huge effect on their career, it took Gibbs 18 months to get over the pasting we gave him in the Champions league. I don't want anything similar happening to our lads. Personally i think Evans is the best bet as cover for LB, he was awesome against Chelsea last season in that position. But with Smalling injured and Vidic and Ferdinand coming back from injuries then it's clear we need Evans as cover in the centre. So although we could cope without signing a LB it would make sense to get specialist cover for the position rather than having to crowbar someone in there if needed. Plus Evra's recent form hasn't been great, possibly due to lack of serious competition for his place, bringing someone in to challenge him can only push him to play better or give us an alternative option if he doesn't improve.
Shappy
Evra is still one of the best on his position, he just doesn't have the legs to play every game anymore, he has played near enough every minute for us there over the past 2 seasons, Fergie knowa what he is doing, and in him I trust, whatever he does will be the right decision.
Jake F
You talk of not needing cover for evra and then go on to say we need cover at CB where we have the likes of rio,vidic,Evans,smalling and jones.
Although the latter 3 are strugglin at the minute it appears Evans is not far off so I think it would be mad to go out and spend money on a new centre half!
Evra quite frankly(and it pains me to say kuz I love him)is not the player he was,and I think an addition at LB who could provide cover and maybe give evra the kick up the arse he needs would be perfect!who knows,maybe someone with a bit of versatility that could cover at CB for you!but who???
Rio cannot play every game, so takes away one option, and then that leaves the other 2, I think Evans is best bet at LB and for me Smalling at RB, that only leaves Jones as cover, i'm not saying we NEED cover at CB, but I think it would be more sensible to get cover there because we already have versatile players that can play in LB and RB.
Jake F
16 Aug 2012 18:27:35
Can't believe some of the post's on here today!
Poor Manchester United and Ferguson can't win, whatever they do.......They get slagged off and moaned at for not buying players.....yet when we do go out and spend the cash.....they moan again.....United fans have got way too use to winning trophies!! Now their saying and posting things like....can't see carrick or Kagawa getting into team with all the new signings.....wake up everyone.....last season Fergie rotated the squad on a weekly game basis all season. Players got games and were brought on as subs every week. Can't see this changing much either this season. Rooney, RVP, Hernandez, Welbeck, Kagawa, Scholes, Cleverely, Nani, Young, Valencia, Carrick and Anderson will be rotated constantly.
The only place I don't see rotation happening so much is in defense. The one place we need stability is at the back. Hopefully this will happen and the rotation of the attacking players will keep them fresh and hungry!
Agreed. I think we have had a fantastic transfer window. We have replaced Pogba with an equal talent. Signed the attacking midfielder that we needed that was named in the balon'd'or candidiates and the best striker in the EPL. We also have the best centre back in the EPL back and one of the most promising British players around fully fit. To top it of we have De Gea who is more experienced and has bulked up and also Scholes for a full season instead of a few months. Lots to be happy about. Just need a left back now and perhaps a CM.
RedDevil19
What are you talking about, who's complaining?
Red Joe
Totally agree with you mate, one season without a trophy and out they come buy this guy and that guy, some of us have supported United when we were crap and know what to support a team is all about, we will be fine this year and we have bought well and intelligently.
samster1
16 Aug 2012 16:22:24
Eds, fellow fans can some one tell me whether we r in for a left back as baines deal seems all but dead and evra's defending is definitely dead.
Red Devil
Your an person evra is better than Baines all day long so stop posting stupid comments
16 Aug 2012 18:13:43
Fergie only said rvp may be available for Monday. Not that he is going to start him. Hasn't he only had 20-30 mins of game time this pre season. Also 2-3 days may not be enough training time for him to get used to our ways and other team mates. I personally think he will be on the bench. Not sure about the team lineup or formation. All depends on who is fit and ready to give there all for the first game. We all want a good start!
REDP
Totally agree, unsure of line up but do think Kagawa will start with RVP coming on for last 20mins depending on score and tempo of the game. But he'll get a run out within the 90 to show him off to the fans.
Tommy
Bang in here . Clueless fans hit the unbelievable as usual . RVP wont be thrown in. We're not Liverpool and throw in semi fit players to try and win games . I'd be surprised to see him play more likely to go with squad and get first 30 mins at ot!
20-25 mins off the bench will do him the world of good. No point in starting RVP from the start. Perhaps against a low level team he may have started but Everton will give us a very good game.
Mad Hatter
I recon your right bro, i think he'l come on but towards the end like you say, probably start with shinji behind wazza. Can't wait for the start of the season! i've got a lot of hope for kagawa,i know youtube's no way to rate a player but sh1t does he look class! no idea if he's left or right footed? so quick with his feet. bring it on. united for life.
Andyred
16 Aug 2012 18:00:41
Nani has came out and said he doesn't want to ever leave the club and we don't plan on selling him from what he knows.
-JakeW
He and Valencia are the sort of guys we need. Total commitment to the club and will fight with every last breath to help it keep winning things. Replacing Nani with some mercenary like Moura would be awful.
RedDevil19
16 Aug 2012 17:56:09
Hernandez's agent has confirmed Hernandez is happy at the club and doesn't want to leave and wont be leaving any time soon. Fairly reliable source as well, so all the fans saying he is leaving, he ain't.
-JakeW
16 Aug 2012 17:48:49
My guy at Carrington (I wont say his job, but it is a non football role) is adamant that now RVP is done Nani and Hernandez are going to Madrid and Khedira and Sahin are coming in.
I hope they give us a shed load of cash too. But honestly this won't happen your talkin bobbins my friends
CAIN
Your guy at carrington is lying to you mate sorry to break the news.
GALWAY RED
If any of this happens, I would be amazed. Nani going out seems like a possibility if the right offer arrived. But, I have never gotten the impression that Fergie is eagerly trying to sell him on. As for Hernandez, they just signed him and in his first season, he was a massive surprise hit and already went far beyond what we could ever have expected or hoped for. Ferguson has also gone on to mention him amongst a group of 4 strikers who he considers near the level of Yorke, Cole, Sherinham and Solskjaer and I hear that his agent has also said that he loves United and there is no chance of him leaving.
But,m having said all that, this is footbll and stranger things have happened. Did you hear about how much Liverpoool paid for Andy Carroll? No, it's not a joke, they really did pay that much!
MDJ
Does your mate do a lot of poetry? Have you ever met Hernandez or seen an in depth interview . He is a nice joyfull young man , he appreciates he is learning the game here .He is not the type of guy to throw his toys out the pram he is grateful to be at the club and we love him too! SHANDY
Wont be bad business in my opinion.
Devil for Life
Sahin isn't !
Puzzled
So it's from a guy in a non Football role. A chef, security, a cleaner? I won't get rid of my Hernandez shirt just yet!
Boyley
Georgie will not sell nani nor hernandes
Is he the groundskeeper
What a load of rubbish
melwing28
Hernandez was on the verge of quitting football and we reignited his career and passion for the game, do you really think he's going to disappear elsewhere because we've made a new signing? I don't think so, him and Welbeck will be even more eager to prove they deserve a place, competition is healthy and I for 1 am looking forward to it.
16 Aug 2012 16:29:45
alright guys!
just wondering what the story is with fryers?!
some websites still have him in our squad list?!
cheers {Ed007's Note - There has been no agreement yet regarding the compensation fee. He did go on tour to Portugal with the Spurs youth squad over the summer.}
16 Aug 2012 16:12:03
Now I know alot of you are crying out for a LB, but I think unless we get Izza then there's no one worth buying. More importantly I think is a CM. not a CDM or a CAM, just a good old fashioned CM. So I was wondering who you guys would like to see at OT. I personally would like to see witsel or strootman
RR
Sahin.
TRUMORS
Witsel & Baines.
Sydney!
What if Evra gets hurt? Witsel would be my choice
Tiote, that is 1 mean fella gets stuck in just what we need in my opinion.
I have no problem with this statement, unless something happens to Evra. Presumably we wouldn't have the option to recall Fabio until January if the worst were to happen.
The fact that we alowed Fabio to go on loan still leads me to believed that there must be someone lined up. Or perhaps there was and the deal fell through...
MDJ
Strootman
sparkyred
Witsel and Cissoko, but would be happy with Dembale and Cissoko.
Mik
None of the names mentioned. Martinez but hearing likely to go to Bayern and I am shocked us and several other major clubs dont seem to have shown much interest. Apart from him and the pretty unfathomable likelyhood of Schweisnteiger, I am happy with our summer business and apart from a shocking marquee signing (yes another) or a realtively unknown Henrique/Powell type purchase I dont fancy any of the names getting bandied about. For the first time in years not even worried about our midfield as we have plenty of options for the next season at least. Think this may well be reviewed next summer dependant on many circumstances. Only area concerns me is left back, but like original poster I dotn see anybody worth buying either as anything other than a stop gap, which seems pointless otherwise we should just have kept Fabio.
Invisible STuey
16 Aug 2012 16:11:42
So with Fergie saying if RVP is available he will start on monday I believe that will see Kagawa used as a central midfielder with Cleverley while Carrick is pushed into defence but then what happens when Carrick is in midfield as he will be first pick in there ? Kagawa benched or Cleverley benched?
Nick Powell ????
They'll all play a lot id say
Dustbin
I reckon it will be Carrick and Cleverley/Scholes in Midfield, Ferdinand and Vidic in defence and Rooney with either Kagawa or Welbeck... RVP will start on the bench
RedKnight
Who's to say that Carrick won't be benched? Remember, Cleverley and Anderson started so well together last season with a vibrant, high-tempo partnership and if they didn't suffer those injuries, who knows how they might have developed as the season went on. Competition for places will be fierce and also bear in mind that various midfield combinations will be used for different games so they will all get game time.
I didnt think kagawa was available due to international duties with japan?
Robbo
We could always do a 3-5-2
De Gea
Evra Ferdinand vidic
Valencia kagawa Cleverley carrick nani
Rooney van persie
We will generally play 4-1-4-1:
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Rio Evra
Carrick
Valencia Kagawa Rooney Nani
Van Persie
Everybody is playing in their favorite positions and you have enough bodies in midfield
RJ the devil
16 Aug 2012 15:55:31
I am very excited about the new Under 21 league. It will give game time and platform for our youth to step up. We have one of the best youth coming up, so I wish all our youth good luck. And they have record of winning cup since 2011.
Red Samurai
16 Aug 2012 16:42:54
RVP medical booked for this evening.
Mr Q
You don't say!
G.A.G.U.S
Your not exactly feeding us with inside information here....
He's failed it! problems with his back,i hear something to do with carrying a whole squad last season or something?? badum tssshh
Andyred
16 Aug 2012 15:33:32
Does anyone know what happened with the offical announcement of Angelo Henriquez?
Do you think it will be announced at the same time with RVP after his medical?
Probably waiting til work permit
Think it could be a combined press conference... maybe do it tomorrow when Sir Alex does his weekly press conference
They might be waiting for a work permit?
I would have thought so...if we announced Hernandez straight away some of the moany fans would only have started ranting about us only buying unkown youth anyway! It will make a nice announcement to introduce both our present and future strikers in one go
Gav
16 Aug 2012 15:22:15
Got my first post on today Cheers. Thought i would try another one. Just a quick question for the edds or syd do you see united making any other signings or attempting any othr signings in this window now we got vanpersie? {Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}
I think we will look at a tough midfielder, a left back and if Nani is sold we should look at a replacement. We do need to shift some players first though.
Sydney!
I agree with Syd, although I wouldnt be surprised to see only 1 more incoming player actually coming off, depending on how we get on with our targets and shifting some of our current crop
Gav
Any of the eds know if we might bid for Felanni from Everton maybe offer a fee plus Berbatov? Would love us to sign a Roy Keane tpye player but they are few and far between
Damian M {Ed007's Note - I'd love Utd to sign a Keane type player as well, but I can't see it being Fellaini.}
Do you think there is time to do all that business Syd?...also SAF stated one possibly two more signings, which we have just done. Personally I'm not sure we need another Midfield if Clev and Anderson are fit with Powell on top of last years squad.
Steve the red
Probably a press conference with both of them with their shirts together like with the signing of kagawa and powell
16 Aug 2012 15:04:28
i should let you all know. Moutinho has confirmed he will not leave porto this summer.
I will continue to work. if an offer arrives, and it is good for both parties, porto will, of course, study it
- joao moutinho
he has nowhere mentioned he wont leave porto
Look again, he has not ruled out moving away from Porto.
Simmo
He is Luka Modrics replacement
Cban
Yeah it seems that he has refused to RULE OUT leaving Porto as opposed to refusing to leave..
Joao Moutinho stated only today that he would be interested in a move to Spurs. So I'm fairly sure he would be interested in a move to Utd.
TBF I would love for us to get Moutinho - with 2 from Carrick/Moutinho/Cleverly sat behind our current attacking options I think we would look very classy
More likely he will end up at Spurs though
Gav
What about Anderson, Fletcher, Jones and Scholes and possibly Powell and Tunnicliffe also Gav? And before you say it yes, I know Anderson still needs to prove himself injury free, Scholes only has a season, Fletcher may not get back to full fitness, and Jones long term should be a defender, but personally I think that is plenty of options for one more season at least. Cleverly and Anderson could both be like two new signings this season on there own
Invisible STuey
Moutinho will be a Spurs player within next 48 hours. Levy was waiting for confirmation before allowing Modric to get on a plane. Expert a fee of Ł28 Million to be announced.
I have heard we are looking at Witsel or Sahin, but Arsenal and Liverpool are also in for Sahin with Arsenal his preferred option.
Ianskip
BTW following on from my post on Sahin, Mourinho wants Sahin to link up with Rodgers at Liverpool. Witsel is our first choice as has already been mentioned by the Eds but SAF is monitoring Sahin as an option if Witsel cannot be tied up
Ianskip
16 Aug 2012 14:30:55
Ed002 If your around can you please explain how the IPO went or is going?? {Ed002's Note - Not good. The club has been valued at a lot less than hoped for.}
Not quite true. The share value in this case bears little or no resemblence to the true value of Utd as a whole.
Why? Because unlike regular shares these are pretty worthless. Not much more valuable than those "star ownership" certs that were all the rage a while back.
Thats because they hold a 10th of the rights of a regular share.So even if you bought the full lot your 10% share of Utd would be pretty worthless
TBH I cannot see how the share offering impacts Utds worth because the shares offered are worth almost nothing, no rights and no dividends isn't a valid share at all in my mind.
Can't see how it was ever going to work out anygood
Pardoe
Thanks for sharing Ed002
I know you don't like getting drawn into financial stuff too much but would you be willing to explain in simple terms what the short/long term ramifications of this are likely to be?
Gav {Ed002's Note - It means it is far less likely that another 25% of the club will be floated just yet.}
16 Aug 2012 13:56:37
Hey Ed, I have a question if you would please answer it.
Have Manchester United made any bid or enquiry for Witsel? {Ed002's Note - There has been interest in Witsel from Zenit, Manchester United, AC Milan and Real Madrid over recent months and Manchester United's interest in the playeris ramping up again.} .
16 Aug 2012 10:46:53
Ed002 can you see us making a move for witsel in this window or would players have to leave the club first?
Calvin {Ed002's Note - I would not tie it to players leaving and there is interest.}
16 Aug 2012 09:58:24
Looking at some comments from Ed002 over the last day or so, it seems you know something we don't about Alex Witsel. Have we stepped up the interest or is it just continued interest from earlier?
MattL {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you know. There is interest in Witsel from Manchester United.}
16 Aug 2012 14:39:03
Just referring to a reply to a post that I posted further down the page. Someone said that we wouldn't drop Valencia because he is the number 7 ... Ever since Ronaldo left we have virtually played without one because we gave it to Owen who hardly ever played. The team isn't picked on the squad numbers. Do you really think that if Berbatov isn't gone yet and RVP is given a shirt in the 20's that Berbatov will play over RVP because Berbatov is the number 9..? Utterly rediculous argument.
RedDevil19
I don't think it was 'because he is number 7' as in his number means he should play. But I think most people believe giving Valencia the number 7 shirt when he had a different shirt number before is a signal of intent that Fergie believes he is going to be playing a lot this season.
In my opinion he deserves it and should not be left out, but looking at having the best front 4, with all players interchangeable it would have to be Nani, Rooney, Kagawa and Van Persie, leaving Valencia to either play centre midfield or right back, neither of which are his preferred positions.
GDS
Every game will be different. Valencia requested the number 7 shirt if I remember as well.
RedDevil19
GDS spot on analysis my friend. I've got a feeling Tony may play right back quite often this term.
Mik
Kagawa rejected the number 7 shirt when it was offered to him when he signed.
17 Aug 2012 01:12:49
well, to me valencia is actually the most technical winger that we have at the moment...so long as he is injury free we wld see a lot of that number (7) in matches.
16 Aug 2012 13:54:50
A few online sources claiming United set to launch an initial 20m bid for Joao Moutinho this week? Would love to see this happen but I'm not very optimistic about it :(
JK
Hope so.........
If we got Joao Moutinho I would be very surprised and f--#ing delirious. Already very happy with our signings, if we added Moutinho I'd be in paradise.
JR-Red
Getting moutinho and with RVP and kagawa alredy here ,means the treble
16 Aug 2012 13:51:59
At a press conference announcing bwin as the club's official online gaming and betting partner, Sir Alex Ferguson spoke about the deal to sign Robin van Persie, stressing he hopes the striker will be available for Monday's trip to Everton. "The fee has been agreed, which we're delighted about," he said. "He's on his way up from London and will have a medical later this afternoon. We hope that goes according to plan. His agent is in discussions with David [Gill] at the moment. Hopefully all these things will be tied up by the end of the day. Sometimes the medicals take a little bit longer and it may carry on until tomorrow morning but I'm sure he'll be available for Monday's game. It's great to have a player of the quality of Robin van Persie coming into the squad. I'm very pleased."
16 Aug 2012 13:32:09
We've signed a shirt deal with Bwin, as the 'big news' today.
Bit disappointing but still. However, where are we planning on putting all these bloody shirt sponsors?! We just signed a deal with Chevrolet! I'm sure BWin won't be happy sponsoring the tops of the socks of our 3rd strip!
RED_SKY
Jesus! Was yesterday's signing not big enough news for you?....can't please some people! BWIN aren't a shirt sponsor! There a betting partner...if u had bothered to goto old Trafford once in your life u would have seen betting kiosks. We're Betfred now BWIN
Steve the red
Its not a shirt deal its our official betting sponsor
Bwin are going to be our betting partners not shirt sponsors
Unbelievable!
Simmo
Dissapointed....what the f....ck!! We have just signed 2 forwards....and yiur dissapointed....my God....you can't please some people.....
This summer we've signed the top 2 players in England and Germany and 2 very promising younsters and your dissapointed..... unbelievable!!!!
I like the idea of sponsoring our socks , i think its only a matter of time
jred
Our official betting partner! - what does this mean ? A united fan must use BWin if they want to bet - would it be considered blasphemic or at least disloyal if I use paddy power ?
16 Aug 2012 13:48:07
So bwin became our official partners in betting. i was wondering who could match Betfair. Seeing how much they make every year. But hey still a very good deal.
Now I hope they will be signing of a midfielder. Either that a Tunniclife needs to step up and enforce himself as a strong Defensive midfielder. He is strong and doesnt shy of tackle. Come on Reds!!
LET THE GAME BEGIN!
Red Samurai
16 Aug 2012 11:21:48
Tried to post on here many times but never seem to get my post on the site but thought id try again.
Just a quick question for the edds or syd i have read a few posts on this site saying there is some news ready to come out of old trafford tomorrow can you shed any light on the news please or is this just made up rumours?
It was today pal, a new partnership in betting and gaming with BWIN, the only thing I could think of tomorrow, is getting RVP registered before mid-day so he can play against Everton, roll on Monday:D
U.T.I.D
It was an announcement by the club for a new sponsor Bwin.
George
16 Aug 2012 13:18:01
Ed Edd or Eddy,
Any news about this announcement at 1?
Thanks guys
Cban {Ed007's Note - It's a new sponsorship with Bwin.}
Cheers, does this mean much to us peasants or is it the upstairs men stuff?
Cban
16 Aug 2012 13:09:07
Does anyone think with the nufc signing of Anita united might sneak a bid in for tiote he would definitely strengthen the midfield up.
Tiote or someone like dembele would be good
Dwright
Work with a geordie and i joked with him that this would happen....
for the cost i think there are better dm's but he would add steel to the middle.
oxred
Tiote won't be cheap. For me same money I think that we could get Witsel who is a far better passer...something that we need.
RedDevil19
He'd be away at the african cup of nations again this year great player but fergie rarely signs african players so doubt it
Would prefer Cabaye ! Just imagine the trouble at the Christmas party if we sign Tiote ?? When both Tiote and Ando turn up as Mr T ahah
fozzy58
True that's the only problem Newcastle will want stupid money for tiote now, dembele could be another bet? Or tunnicliffe stepping up And having a good season
Dwright
Personally i think our spending is over. Tunners to step up maybe? Carrick will sit infront of the back four most of this season again, and with vidic back thats not too bad. With an attacking force of roo rvp kags nani and valencua we will score more then every other team anyway :-)
GALWAY RED
16 Aug 2012 12:40:53
Van Persie arrived at London St Pancras train station on Thursday morning ahead of his trip to Manchester to complete his medical. He could be confirmed as United player later in the day.
It was Euston.
16 Aug 2012 12:02:24
Surely now would be the time to steal Sahin's loan deal to Arsenal or Liverpool. We probs don't have much money left so getting a loan makes sense, then if it works out we sign him next season, if it doesn't we just let him go back to madrid.
1redarmy
I agree, i really dont want to see Sahin at liverpool or arsenal,
If arsenal sell song then i think he will go to the emirates.
would be sensible for united to enter this race.
Cban
Im pretty sure sahin opting for Liverpool, he had talks with mourinho and alonso, and both told him lfc was a great option... is what i heard anyways...
He's likely to go to Liverpool apparently, the Ed's on their page seem confident anyway. I agree though he could have been a good option for a year, to allow players like Cleverly, Powell, Petrucci and Tunnicliffe to develop further in the mean time. I personally think he will just go back to Madrid after a year and that's not really in SAF's style. I would have thought it more likely if there was a serious option to buy at the end of the year
Gav
16 Aug 2012 11:59:36
Looks like united will sell Hernandez and berbatov
Now we've signed van persie we will have Rooney + van persie as our main strike force welbeck as back up henriquez looks okay he can make it into the team if we have any injury problems and i think that it shouldn't be too long before Powell rises up the pecking order so berbatov and Hernandez need to leave
I heard Hernandez could go to arsenal as part of the rvp deal and berbatov is being linked with many premier league clubs as well as clubs like galatasaray and zenit
Berbs will go and no others we wont sell little pea are you mad!!
PBMUFC
No, just no.
Henriquez looks ok so we should sell Hernandez, are you mad? Henriquez is 18 years old, by the time he is 22-23 van Persie will be 33-34 and ready to move on.
We are planning for the future as well as having quality now. Selling our youngsters would be a massive mistake imo.
Berbatov is going anyway if an offer comes in, which I hope it does as he will not have any place in the squad otherwise.
GDS
U dont know much do u mate!
Firstly, yes Rooney and RVP will be our first choice partnership.
Secondly, yes Berbatov will leave.
Thirdly NO Hernandez will not be leaving, he and Welbeck will b 3rd and 4th choice strikers (Fergie always sees it necessary to have 4 strikers given the amount of games)
Fourthly, NO henrique will be going straight back out on loan to the club we got him from.
Finally NO, Fergie has earmarked Powell as a central midfielder, and this is where he will be playing in the reserves and for the first team probably in the carling cup and easier games.
Read up a bit more mate!
Very excited for Monday!!
Why does Hernandez have to leave? The club have four strikers. Two for the EPL & League and two for the cups.
Sydney!
Why would we sell Hernandez? The lad is fantastic from the bench and has been noted for his ability to read the game from the bench in the same manner than Ole used to do. I really hope you are wrong!
MDJ
Hernandez won't be sold. Obviously.
Berbs is as good as gone as far as Fergie is concerned.
Fergie says that having Hernandez, Rooney, RVP, Welbz and Kagawa gives him options like he had in '99 (Yorke,Cole,Ole and Teddy).
Clearly we're not selling Hernandez. Great player anyway.
RedMist.
16 Aug 2012 11:37:14
Anyone got any information on who is supposedly flying in on a private jet to Manchester today, apparently massive news for united? I've heard all sorts this morning about the glazers selling up? An announcement is due at 1pm today on MEN website?
The Manchester Evening News website?! im pretty sure its RVP and a new sponsor being announced. not at the same time!
nozzla
Kompany and De Jong coming back from the international, The announcement is Bwin as official betting partner.
16 Aug 2012 10:50:42
Looks like we've got RVP and Henriquez, already got Kagawa and Powell now all I want to know is what are the chances that we will sign Witsel too, this would mean splashing out once again. Personally would love this to happen and would make this a perfect transfer window. Opinions ed's anyone else ?
Bp
I think we have enough midfielders to swap and change all season no need for more cleverly and anderson looking good in pre-season. Scholesy, fletch, kagawa, powell, carrick.. All central i personally feel only change in midfield that will be made only if we sell Nani... And that wont ruffle many of united fans feathers as im sure i have never seen a NANI 17 on the back of any supporters shirt
-Newton Heath
16 Aug 2012 10:50:44
A friend of mine in South America who I met last year on holiday in Cancun has told me that apparently United have enquired for Hector Herrera from Pachuca. He's also a Liverpool target and got gold with Mexico at London 2012. I can't say i've paid much attention to him so can't comment on his abilities. He looks a bit like Busquets in physicality though.
RedDevil19
Pachuca duo Marco Bueno and Hector Herrera have been identified as targets for Liverpool and Manchester United, the club's chairman Jesus Martinez Patino has revealed
this was in May....
so maybe Herrera has been looked at but only fergie will know if he wants him
Oxred
Yes, I remember that story vaguely. Perhaps Herrera is being looked at, who knows.
RedDevil19
I saw most of mexico's games in the olympics, if im not mistaken Hector Herrera can be deployed in the CM/CDM role.... Herrera returned from the London games with a knee injury (think a torn meniscus, not sure about the exact medical term for it), so i would believe a swoop for him would be doubtful. How would he pass a medical? He has said he will be travelling to guadalajara, mx to check the severity of the injury and to determine if he needs surgery; which in that case will probably be taking place then and there
RedNando17
16 Aug 2012 10:41:46
Hi guys, i always read your site but never post, with all the speculation regarding Witsel, i was just wondering what kind of midfielder he is, e.g cam or cdm?
Tab
He's a cm.
Come out of this fifa words bro.. short and point is he is a good midfielder can do all that job well. he was looked since last 3 years.. good player for full season.
rodio17
Can play either. He's like Fellaini, but with a bit more attacking presence
Similar to yaya toure
16 Aug 2012 09:13:41
Further to my post about bwin sponsorship, its as our official betting partner.
RMD
16 Aug 2012 09:51:41
Tuesday training the players were split up. Keepers, Defenders, Midfielders & Strikers.
Giggs was with the defenders. He's played LB before & Brady & Blackett aren't up for stepping in when Evra needs a rest.
Giggs used to be a winger, then as he got older moved into the centre and had to change his style.
It's not uncommon for a player to move back as they get older. The late Gary Speed for Newcastle & Wales.
Blackmore, Sharpe, Fortune, Richardson, Brady all United midfield players that have tried LB position.
Giggs has proven before he can slot in nicely at LB many of times before. Lets face it we all know he won't get much game time in centre midfield these days. So cover for mid & cover for LB.
Evra will miss the COC games. Giggs can step in for 70mins then hopefully when 2or 3 up go off for Blackett.
FA Cup I'd trust Giggs & also rubber stamp Champions League games. Alongside Rio playing LCB as he does now I think it would be fine. He would probably have to play Young on the LW as he covers back more than Nani.
If Giggs cannot keep up on the wing anymore, why would we put him at the back where he will be facing the same attacking players? If I was the opposing manager, I would aim my attacks down that side as it's the weak spot.
melwing28
Has fryers left yet because he'd be an ideal cover for evra
That's okay if you want to rest Evra, but what if he gets injured or continues to loose ability. Giggs can cover but if he has to step up for a couple of weeks in LB, he'll get found out .
Tommy
Don't like the idea of Giggs at LB at all.
Like someone said, if can't take the pace on the wing, why would he manage it better at LB? If he gets exposed at LB, then someones in on goals, if he gets exposed at LW, at least he still has a LB behind him.
Giggs is a true legend but shoehorning him into any position doesn't do him any favours.
Lets play a LB at LB, eh. Please.
RedMist
We can recall Fabio at any time what I assume they would do if Evra got injured
Would rather shift evans across than use giggs there, played there before many times.
16 Aug 2012 09:39:04
The news coming out of OT today other than RVP is apparantly another Sponsorship deal being announced.
Rjmanutd
16 Aug 2012 09:37:58
For anyone saying we should sign Lewandowski instead of RVP here is a couple of reasons we shouldn't.
1. Angelo Henriquez. This guy is 18, pacey and can finish, has all the traits to become a great striker and will be learning off two of the best in the world for a few years. RVP has now joined and has about 4-5 years left in him, at that time Henriquez will be 22/23 and ready.
2. RVP has proven his class in this league and when fit is brilliant. I know he has his injury problems but if he plays only 25 games this season but still scores 18 goals then that is fine.
1redarmy
Aren't you forgetting Will Keane.
3 yrs down the line.
Rooney 30, Welbeck 24, Chicharito 27, W.Keane 22, Henriquez 21.
Now that's a line up.
16 Aug 2012 09:32:10
Berbatov wants to remain in England and is on his way to Fulham, a 2yr contract will be offered. With Dempsey & Dembele soon to be off the books they can offer him a record breaking contract. Martin Joll knows the player well & hopes he'll be influential to the up & coming young stars.
A new strike force of Berbatov, Petric & Rodallega.
To replace Johnson, Dempsey, Sa, Pogrebnyak.
My old college buddies from Fulham say we're very interested with Dembele, offering 10m. Fulham wanted nearer 20m. This was January when Clev & Ando plus Fletch were all out.
With the purchase of van Persie recently Fulham have made a move for Berbatov AGAIN!! now they would be happy for us to have Dembele for 10m PLUS Berbatov if he would sign a 2yr contract with them.
Not relevant to United, but Fulham are also trying to sort out a deal for Petrov from Bolton on loan.
Petrov & Berbatov are best buddies.
So in a short summary: we tried to buy Dembele when our midfield were short in numbers. They said no. We re-signed Scholes.
Do we need Dembele now? we do need to get Berbatov out.
He's too good not even to make the bench.
Dembele is 25, can play CM (new position) LW/RW and CF.
I think it could be a Valencia signing. Good player made better with better players around him.
Would he improve us?
Or is it better to wait next season for a chance of Goetz, Eriksen, Sahin or whoever.
16 Aug 2012 09:06:15
I believe this 'other news' is regarding a sponsorship deal with bwin. Just what i've heard.
RMD
We've already agreed a sposorship deal with chevrolet
Its as official betting partner replacing Betfair. 3 year deal. i'm not going to post rubbish am I?
RMD
15 Aug 2012 18:20:30
hey ed002, please specify your views..
if modric goes to real madrid than what are their chances for still being in race for witsel? and is man utd's interest is genuine or just formal look up?
with just 3 weeks remaining before window shut. do you think portugese club would be easy to deal with in such short time? looking for your views.. not necessarily have to be a fact.
cheers ed.
rodio17 {Ed002's Note - I would doubt RM would still be interested unless other players leave. Manchester United's interest is serious.}
Thanx ed... if we are serious about witsel why are we linked with dembele? some eds have even pointed our interest in him. do you feel he is 2nd choicce or its just enquires? and quoted prices for both are very different. your view are highly appriciated ed002. and if u know about any official or unofficial bid placed for any of them?
cheers
rodio17
Ed 002 do you think Anderson will be involved in any approach for Witsel? I only ask because with Carrick, Cleverly, Scholes, Witsel, Giggs, Kagawa i dont see alot of oppurtunities for Anderson?
Stuey {Ed002's Note - I would not expect it, but it is possible.}
16 Aug 2012 02:03:22
IMO people who give out about price for rvp should look at what other clubs pay for likes of ibrahimovix and villa
Just think of it as 34 million for kagawa and rvp now that's a bargain
Jay-c
I cannot believe how MUFC fans can complain, when we have moaned for years about not getting in the best players; who will always cost more when they come to OT.
It's not the cost of RVP as such that bothers me...it's that signing RVP practically negates the purchase of Kagawa.
His ONLY effective position is behind the striker. He is nowhere near as effective out left or in a 442 midfield. Very perculiar signing imo.
Great to have a top player like RVP come in, but Fergie's signings this summer make no sense to me.
36m for Cazorla, Podolski and Giroud - now that's a bargin. 24m for a 29 year old that has ever only lasted one season for arsenal is good business for arsenal- that being said, I will concede he did carry us last year, however I don't think he will ever have another season like this.
If I was an opposing fan, I would be going on about the price as well. As a Manchester United fan, it's so hard to care. We have an exciting season ahead!!
MDJ
Well said mate, add Powell and Henriquez to that with their cheap price tags and overall our summer has been a bargain IMO. Not that we should be too bothered as fans anyway, lol
Gav
Villa and ibra cost more money because they wer younger and had years left on their contracts.dont start thinkin we got a good deal because we didnt!24 mill for a nearly 30 year old player with massive injury problems is not a good deal in my opinion
16 Aug 2012 02:00:31
Hearing talk that the news to come out of OT tomorrow could be related to the Glazers' ownership of the club.
Sources are not particularly reliable - but I've heard it from a few people...
T0MB0Z
If it is related to the Glazer ownership, i imagine that it will be them telling us they're going nowhere.
After the huge failure of the IPO, unfortunately i can see them sticking around for a while now.
RedMist
15 Aug 2012 23:46:39
Any news about tomorrow? could it be another player coming in..... People are saying it might be Christian Eriksen
Its just the official signing of chillian henriquez
That would be amazing if it happend
Heard there could be an announcement about re-naming OT. Don't know how true this is.
When is this news ment to happen?
Tarrant77
Its about bwin becoming our new betting partners.
15 Aug 2012 23:38:29
i am a first time user but love the site well done, i live a stone throw from ot and i am a doorman at a local pub and no some of the united staff who frequently use the place and they said which could be idle gossip but i doubt as they are genuine men that we are about to or have lodged a bid for schweinsteiger for 22m hope its true and witsel is a smoke screen
Nice try, but Martinez was signed to partner Scweinsteiger in midfield, not replace him.
Sydney!
I'd give my right nut for Schweisteiger but will never believe we'd get him and certainly not 22m
Pardoe
Pardoe
There's a news article regarding a Malaysian man claiming that if Malaysia were to win a medal for diving at the olympics , he would remove his genital surgically and to everyone's delight, a Malaysian girl won a bronze and now all are after his nuts! haa would think twice about offering ur nut if I were you.
Martinez hasn't been signed.
DY
I can assure you having worked for the club at a very high level that no-one inside the stadium other than Gill knows anything about transfer targets or who is being signed or not. The only act that sometimes takes place at the ground is the official contract signing. Any rumours coming out of OT are just that and are as unreliable as all the others.
Martinez is still at Bilbao and i very much doubt that Bayern would pay 40 million Euro's for his services even though they want him and Martinez want's to go.
Simmo
Simmo
15 Aug 2012 23:36:49
Few reports suggesting we offered £15million + Berbatov for RVP
15 Aug 2012 23:28:09
24million apparently.
Apparently everyone tells us we have no money, I think more signing(s) will happen before close.
Supasub
I think United waited to spend until after the new EPL TV contract was signed..TV money seems to be a big reason any sports teams are able to afford wages.
15 Aug 2012 23:18:55
Wow cant believe we have got the bundesliga player of the year and the premier league player of the year. Add that to the couple of young prospects for the future and it's a great summer for united. Happy wih that but a cm and I'd be in dream land! Can't wait for the new season!
Kagawa is a very good player, but lewandowski was bundesliga player of the season 11-12
siv3rzz : )
Think you ll both find it was Marco Reus that was player of the year last season in Germany. Kagawa is an awesome signing though
15 Aug 2012 23:18:36
Eds/Syd do you think with Modric going to Madric that we could step in for Khedira or Sahin?
Sahin is off to looserpool mate.
ferdcoast
15 Aug 2012 23:15:37
So what squad number do you guys think van persie will get?
Maybe 9 if berba leaves
Berbas number
9 if berba leaves or maybe 20 cause fabio's away
Totally Agreed
I can see Rafael being moved up to number 2 - and giving RVP 21
Two possibilities
1.Van Persie gets number 9 as berbatov looks to leave if he stays at OT then he'll have to settle for no.86 or something like that
2.Van Persie might be given number 10 and Rooney back to no.9 if he's happy with that
15 Aug 2012 21:35:52
Javier Hernandez has handed in a transfer request, doesn't want to be 4th choice striker
He's dreamed of playing for us since he was small. He was considering quitting football before we came in for him. Don't think he would leave unless told to leave.
MattL
Speculation.
Sydney!
I feel sorry for the guy, done nothing wrong, had a cracking first season then benched 2nd season for no reason. ALOT better than welbeck IMO
He is going no were we have four good forwards now just like 99 i think sir alex is stepping down after this year he bought rvp to win chapmions leauge
SAF bought RVP (29 yrs) to give hernandez and welbeck time (2 to 3 years) to become better players, and replace RVP in due time. That's why he didn't get lewandowski (23 yrs). RVP is for immediate success.
Chico wont be leaving he was injured quite alot last season hence why he was benched alot, but still 12 goals for the season, wouldnt say it was a bad season really?
Chicharito will probably be used more off the bench than Welbeck. RvP & Roo will be the top 2. Kagawa will play when one is used up top. Welbeck will play weaker teams at OT. Chicharito will come off the bench when needed. He'll get Cup games also.
15 Aug 2012 22:45:56
why are people still askin about modric and witsel....we have signed kagawa for the purpose of the creative midfielder role? we also have anderson and cleverly back to full fitness to rotate with....we could do with another holdin/allround midfield player to compete and rotate with carrick as fletcher still seems a long way off returning....i dont expect to see this happen though!!
Batwayne and Robin