Manchester United Rumours Archive December 16 2012

16 Dec 2012 15:30:31
Still the only English club team to be world champions and we have done it twice. Lets not take that for granted. Just because the FA would not let us wear the patch. To South Americans it is the biggest thing in club football. I AM KLOOT

So glad Benitez didn't walk straight into winning that, would have been so underved.

Gav

So glad Cheslea f****d up there last chance of silverware for at least a year and a half.

Dan

What's the FA's reason for not letting us wear the patch Kloot?

Mike

What KLOOT means is that nearly all clubs would have the world club cup patch on their shirts for the rest of the season or until the next final normally above the club badge or centre of the chest. The FA would not allow us to use it that season after winning the competition.
A disgrace really. We could wear it in CL etc though.
Seperately, When we won the old version against Palmeiras (intercontinental world cup) we actually completed a quadruple for 1999.

Forgot to add my name.... That's a first.

Supasub

16 Dec 2012 05:20:17
What does everyone think of manager's comments that he will not be bringing anyone in in January.

I do realize we are leading the league by 6 points but do we have enough in the current squad to win the league and compete in CL late stages?

It does also sound like we might not be selling anyone in January either as The Roma interest for Nani is a loan interest and I personally don't believe he would agree to that.

Finally question for the Eds, is there any truth to the stories in the press that we have had a bid turned down for Zaha?

Shahram {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any rejected bids. Crystal Palace will look to hold on to Zaha until the summer and if they get promoted perhaps after that too. He was to be allowed to move this past summer at the right price with Sunderland, West Ham and Reading look possible destinations. Liverpool have certainly looked at Zaha in the past but there is strong interest from Arsenal and Manchester United. Game time will no doubt be a factor in the short-term.}

Truth is we are a very lucky side.If it was not for Rooney and the best forward in the league RVP we would be border line Champions League spot.Midfield is where our problems start and end.Defense would be fine if it was not for the ease that teams get through our midfield and at the back four.

Hopefully with no more injuries to key players, we can win the premier league and even challenge for the champions league ( even though Barcelona, Bayern, Madrid and Dortmund can beat us ).

Mick

Just watched the Club World Cup where Paulinho bossed the midfield. Energy, strength, positioning and good passing. If only, SAF could see the light!

Didn't think he was all that, reminds me of Klebereson. thought they were well organised and that's about it. We should not be taking a punt on some ropey brazilians hoping they'll suddenly transfer good form to Manchester unless they've shown good form in Europe or Britain.
We should be looking more east to Europe/eastern block/Scandinavian countries....Solskjaer, Stam, RVP, van Nistelrooy, vidic....etc.

Supasub

Would love to see us beat city to ciriagliano of river plate.......future midfield star.......also why does fergie persist in giving run outs to giggs and scholes.....surely it would be much better to blood the young players giving them 20/30 minutes when we can....also rather than closing games down these boys would bust a gut to drive the team on, to prove a point

Agree on the Cirigliano point I think he will be top quality. Bit I really see no need in Zaha. If we had a year of patience then we could see Januzaj and Daehli come through, they could be world class but it seems we have no patience to let academy players come through!

Dan

Remember lads, just because Fergie says we're not going to sign anyone, doesn't necessarily mean we're not going to sign anyone. You see it with him often saying players are injuredonly for them to line out the next week. I'm not saying we will definitely sign someone but he has been known to tell a few white lies in the past

Jomu83

Fergies persistance to stick with giggs and scholes will result in us losing out on better midfield players and will make our younger players want to go play football elsewhere. Surely he can see that they are both a year to old as both have lost 2 yards of pace at least and just are not good players any more.

Yeh I think if he could get rid of nani in January he would but it seems nani wants to wait until the summer to get a full pre season behind him. A shame because his value will drop in the summer.

Dan

SAF's statement must be true ... it's been reported on that most reliable of sites (!?!) Caught Offsh1te! LOL!
Mike B.

It baffled me what he said about not signing anyone in Jan.
So again he is going to loose out on potential signings like Strootman, Wanyama that we could get cheaper in Jan and end up paying double in the summer because they have good ends to there season so there price will inflate.
He has an obsession with buying forwards (Lewondowski) and wingers (Rodriguez) when the biggest problem is staring him in the face, the central midfield.
When will he realise this??

Simmo

Our midfield will get found out against the big sides in europe as per usual !!

sparkyred

16 Dec 2012 03:08:31
Good morning everyone,
We know that Shinji will be back soon, prolly next week or so and I find it hard to imagine where he would slot in. We have to agree that the 4-4-2 is the best we play and it would be harsh on young to replace him on current form and kagawa would be wasted on the right. (assuming there is no chance he will replace rooney at the hole). So what do you reckon ....bench time?
DJ

Well for now we're lucky to have weeks between matches, but come december 26th our calendar really picks up, plus in the new year we have the FA Cup and CL to deal with, so I'm sure his time will come with proper squad rotation.
I wouldn't mind seeing young start on the right, rooney through middle and kagawa on the left, and rvp up top to complete a very fluid and dynamic front 4

Kagawa would not be wasted on the right at all... He is both footed and has a lot of ability... I just can not see Fergie playing Young over Valencia.

Put young on the right ang kagawa on the left because I dnt no what's wrong with valencia he is just not the same player RegTheRed

In pre-season he was excellent alongside Cleverley in a 2 man midfield.... Next to a Carrick or a Fletcher he could do the role similar to Cleverley and Anderson

RedKnight

Kagawa is better than young and Valencia he will be playing either on the left or right its only a matter of time. I would actually rather see Kags on the left and Young on the right instead of Valencia because I feel it balances the team better. Valencia offers what a traditional winger does but it does disrupt any free flowing football we could play with Young and Kagawa on the flanks.

Dan

RVP up top and a fluid attacking 3 of Rooney, Kagawa and Young. Though they may start as Wayne in the centre, Young on the right and Kagawa on the left, they are all top player, with great flexibility. Trouble with Tony V is that he is very much a right winger, though on his day very good, he is a little predictable and very one footed. I'm more concerned with the 2 more defensive minded midfielders. Anderson is always injured and has stamina issues,Cleverley,so good in the first half yesterday, is usually pretty average. Giggs and Scholes were legends, but there time has past.Fletch still doesn't look 100% to me, he seems woefully lacking in the pace department.That leaves Carrack, Jones and Rooney,(who can do more damage further up the pitch).Evens could do a job in midfield. He's an excellent passer, tackles well and is tenacious.He could shield our back four effectively.
Mik

Agree with everything you said mik except I'd like to see Jones in beside Carrick in midfield I think Cleverly is pretty average and a good 45mins against a poor side isn't going to change my opinion! I hope he proves me wrong and this goal gives him the confidence to push on and live up to the hype that a lot of people have laid at his feet, still honestly believe he isn't good enough tho

Flash

We do not play 4-4-2. Our system is a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 at times. And yes there is a big difference between that formations.

Kagawa can easily play as a left-winger or back-up for Rooney when he needs a rest.