Manchester United Rumours Archive January 18 2012

 

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18 Jan 2012 22:30:33
man united interest in brazilian fb Maicon confirmed

www.cleansheetsallround.co.uk/2012/01/manchester-united-interest-in-brazilian-full-back-confirmed

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Old and in my opinion massively over-rated.

United Till I Die 1987

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Lol because cleansheetallround.co.uk most definitely a reputable source

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Maybe not a reputable source but still a RUMOUR!!

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Gareth Bale tore him a new a**shole last year so see no reason why we would want him

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I very much doubt this, probably an agent stirring up a rumour.

RedDevil19

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18 Jan 2012 21:28:41
Kind of an interesting one friend of a friend rumour in light of the recent gibson deal i hear seamus Coleman very much in the frame to be signed in the summer

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Great little player him

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So between now and Summer we are signing Coleman, Barkley, Fellani and Rodwell. Ever since signing Rooney we get linked through a friend of a friend with young Everton players that look like they could be half decent. And have we signed any of them since? I would however like to see us sign Leighton Baines to replace Patrice Evra

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18 Jan 2012 19:14:07
apparently united are close to agreeing a deal to sign MAICON from inter milan

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Heard this yesterday, but didn't know if there was any truth to it... ed have you heard anything?, i think it would be a bad move tbh. {Ed007's Note - It's news to me.}

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Arent we also signing silva & aguero from city! Dont be daft! United policy not to sign anyone over 26 normally

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Maicon is like 50 isn't he?

Pardoe

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I very much doubt this!

United Till I Die 1987

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18 Jan 2012 19:04:52
Any chances of united signing shinji kagawa or lorenzo insigne(napoli CAM).??saw that on united gossip column

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18 Jan 2012 19:01:59
Beckham re-signing for MLS side so thank god thats the end of that stupid rumour

Pardoe

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18 Jan 2012 14:52:16
3 players I believe will be with us in the summer.... Nathaniel Clyne(RB) We are lacking in natural RB, contract ends in the summer, only 20 so worth the gamble..... Barkley is the target from Everton but the cost is the problem, Rodwell could be back up if a deal for Barkley can't be reached..... LW/Striker which could be Hamsik if the fee was lower but I thinkits Shaquri. United to try for 4-3-3 formation next year. All just my opinion but we won't be spending big, we are looking to build for the future.... HERBIE

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Nathaniel Clyne isn't United level. The twins are far better than him and michael keane is developing nicely. Also jones and smalling can do a job there as well as toni. Watch more of the reserves and you will see how keane has progressed alot. Adam

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I agree with Clyne and one of Rodwell/Barkley, but to say Hamsik or Shaqiri... hmm. Hamsik won't come to us i don't think, he'll end up at Chelsea. Shaqiri i don't think is good enough. Id rather us sign a world class striker along with the other two names you mentioned.

RedDevil19

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I think a more likely defensive signing could be Izzaguire (spelling) from celtic, looks a good player, wont cost too much either. I think we're ok at rb. Rodwell seems nailed on to be a utd player at some point. Torres would be a good option up front if chelsea will sell to us, proven in the prem unlike other players mentioned.

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No Herbie, naughty!

Ozwald

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I agree with Clyne said a few weeks ago United should sign him. Barkley I haven't seen alot an awful of but looks a talent. Shaquri I doubt.

United Till I Die 1987

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18 Jan 2012 13:59:45
One of my sources has just fed me this,
Demba Ba to Chelsea
Torres to United??

WTF?!

PJ

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Are your sources normally right mate? Id love Torres at o.t, him feeding off wazza with nani and valencia out wide would be unreal.

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For the same price?
I'd say he is worth a shot at 7 million :D
Jonny8

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Would be happy with Torres. If anyone can get him back to what he was like when he came to England, It's SAF.

Ozwald

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Best ask for a sick bag then

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Weren't you complaining of posts not being posted ... I wonder why they weren't... Im as puzzled as puzzled.

Gar

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Why was you eating his dream notebook?

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Good deal.



For Chelsea....

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Don't want to rain on your sources but see that one happening! although would it be such a bad move? Berbatov out and Torres in? Torres has struggled for the past year but i firmly believe let fergie weave his magic and his form could return - form is temporary class is permanent, on his day Torres is unplayable- Vidic knows all about that and i regard Vidic as the one of, if not best CB in the world. Saying that i can't see Chelsea selling anybody to us.

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The voices in your head arent sources fella,y do people pretend to be itk and expect people to swallow it,give your head a shake pal.
Ste73

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Give your head a shake?!
Lmao, chap, u need to think before you type, I'm serious. Could be just interest that is being shared but stranger things have happened, united are interested. They took Owen on didn't they?
PJ

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Chelsea wouldn't sell, United wouldn't buy... Non starter!

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Chelsea would sell, united might buy. Definite starter.
PJ

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I was going to post a rumour based on nothing other than thought - which was fergie will make a bid to sign Torres, long term admirer and by all accounts he is being offered about - if we could get him on the cheap i think Fergie may take the punt. as i said this is based on nothing

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What do i have to think about fella,your a billy bullhitter trying to gain attention,ive called you out end of,you know nobody and have been told nothing by anybody,now get to bed jnr.
Ste73

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I think it would be amazing to see Torres in a United shirt,however i think it will never happen that AVB person would not sell him to us on principle alone!!

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I'd buy just to make the scouse even sicker lol.

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A billybullhitter and you have called me out? Sound just like one of the under 14s I coach from my footy team. Listen pal, you can call me out all you like but I ain't joining you. If you want to assume what I posted earlier is inaccurate then go ahead but THINK before you type for your own sake, you sound a bit dim dude. Oh and you have plenty to think about, start with what you can see in the mirror mate.

PJ

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Is your 'Source' HP or Ketchup? Seriously though, we are not going to sign Torres and Chelsea are not going to sign Ba.

United Till I Die 1987

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18 Jan 2012 13:10:34
hi guys. I put up the rumour earlier regarding an offer to spurs for a player involving cash and young in part exchange. I thought it was for modric but i've since checked on that and its supposedly not modric. My mate has only heard whispers so i'm not sure how true this is but he reckons we want bale to give us more threat from the left. Also he reckons we are watching wigans mccarthy a lot. As i said its just a whisper. Supposedly young hasn't settled up north. Anyone heard anything on this? Could be nothing but thought i'd pass this on.

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Hmmm. Part ex involving Young?
Wouldn't have thought so. Especially not for Bale, who is without doubt one of, if not THE most over rated player in the Prem.
Nani, Young, Welbeck, Giggs and Rooney all offer more than Bale on the left.
As for Young "not settling" in the north...you do know that Brum is but a stones throw from "The North" you speak of? Hardly a different culture, 80 miles up the M6. :)

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He started the season great, but ever since he has had a few injuries and things but i've partially forgot about him. Did fairly well in Europe for us.. But i honestly prefer Nani + Valencia.. We should try Nani (LW) Valencia (RW) Then Rooney up front with Young playing just behind as a second striker.. This would give more technicality to our play around the box, rather than Hernandez with his awful first touch and ball control. Dont get me wrong Chicharito is a superb finisher, has all the qualities for that but his build up play makes me want to throw up.

Ozwald

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Bale is far better than all those who you mentioned on the left!

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Young isn't a brummie though my friend, he's a southern boy.

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Bale, very poor. Look at his stats. Nani out does him, Young started the season very well and boasted how well he had settled, only injury interrupted his form.
Not a Brummie but he lived in the midlands did he when he was at Villa? I'm assuming, seems an awfully long commute from London to Villa. Manchester is hardly in a different time zone.

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Dont know why people try to put Bale down so much he is without doubt the best left winger in the prem. He's fast, strong gets assists and plenty of goals this season too.

Not saying we should buy him at all, but dont all bitch about him just because he's not one of ours, if he was, we'd all be hailing him as the next Giggs no doubt!

Gav

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I disagree Young has settled well in Manchester, he's had a few injuries which haven't helped him get a proper run of games. Judge him at the end of next season. I still don't think he's who United should have signed but hey ho. Also it would take silly money to buy Bale plus Spurs have a habit of bending us over. Daniel Levy is quite a negotiator in sales not so great at buying though (want's to sell his players for over the odds and buy them for half what they are worth)

United Till I Die 1987

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18 Jan 2012 12:55:14
I'm becoming more and more convinced that a TOP striker is at the top of SAF's list of priorities instead of a central midfielder 'Name'. And here is why:

Pogba, Cleverly, Morrison and Anderson specifically are earmarked as the future for us. He will not bring players in to compromise these lads. That is why Scholes is back, to give Pogba in particular a bit more time to mature and to give Cleverly time to fully recover from his injury. Supplement those 4 boys with Carrick, Fletcher and Giggs and you don't have a bad looking central midfield. I can see Rodwell or Barkley adding to what we already have.

On the wings we are quite well stocked, there will be room for one more, but not till the season after next. Park will stay, Giggs can cover if necessary as can Cleverly. We have Petrucci progressing nicely. At best outwide i can see a youngster come in, not Shaqiri, not Hazard. Ocampos/Vadillo are the names we have been linked with, so possibly one of those two. Give them some game time next season to get them ready for 2013/2014 - my pick would be Ronaldo-esq Ocampos who is a huge United fan.

Very little work will be done defensively other than maybe signing a utility man like Benatia, he looks potentially world class at doing what he does and he's available for 6 million or so - hardly a terrible expense.

So for the striking position. We see SAF is getting rid of the dead wood/potential dead wood in Macheda, King, Cofie, probably Diouf, Owen and Berbatov to come. That leaves us with 3. In SAF's ideal squad i.e. 98/99 season we had 4 strikers in Sheringham, Solskjaer, Cole and Yorke - all of which were world class. Welbeck, Chicharito, Rooney and 'Someone' is something SAF will want - and its probably what we least expect. I think the names on the list would be:

Edison Cavani
Fernando Torres
Karim Benzema
Gonzalo Higuain
Fernando Llorente
Leandro Damiao

back-up choice:

Demba Ba

The names i mentioned are huge names and are all £30 million pound men. But we have looked at all of them in the past. And they mostly give us a powerful and clinical striker, something that we don't really have at the moment. We have Rooney's guile, Chicharito's movement and Welbeck's runs, rawness, passion. We don't have that clinical man in my opinon.

One of the Real Madrid men are likely, if Neymar comes in then they may be accessible. Alternatively one could be available if Cavani comes in, he is the man that Mourinho wants (him and/or Neymar). Torres i firmly believe would be a hit here, he'd be one of the first on my list. He's brilliant when he is at his best and SAF would give him time, and a chance i feel. Llorente i think is on there, but probably as a reserve choice, he's not great, just decent and will be way over priced. Perhaps the best value for money would be Damiao? 22ish million might do it, but there is always a risk with Brazilians.

So compare this line up with the 99 line up:

De Gea / Schmeical
Rafael / Neville
Smalling / Johnsen
Vidic / Stam
Evra / Irwin
Valencia / Beckham
Cleverly / Scholes
Pogba / Keane
Nani / Giggs
Rooney / Yorke
Benzema / Cole

So as for additions i'd say we are looking at:

Benatia
Rodwell
Ocampos
Benzema

RedDevil19

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We are looking at hundreds of player mate, who we sign is another story.

Sydney!

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Cleverly/Scholes
Pogba/Keane

Really? I'm sorry but to compare those two young players to the best midfield partnership of their generation is madness.

RebelRed

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Are you forgetting about Phil Jones? Probably our brightest young prospect right now. There's no way Cleverley and Pogba will be the starting pair next year, SAF will want some more experience in there, hopefully Fletch (if he's fit) but probably Carrick or Anderson. As for the strike force, you're living in a dream world mate, we'll never splash out on Benzema, plain and simple. I hope I'm wrong and we buy all the players you've mentioned but I really can't ever see it happening

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If we signed Gonzalo Higuain id go to carrington training ground an kiss sir alex meself! but il have to put me lipbarm to oneside as i dont belive we will ever sign him!

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One thing i will mention.. I was thinking the other day that Fernando Torres is looking sharp when he plays, got all the little flicks and tricks as well as being quite agile and quick to react. He only left for Chelsea because they coughed up a large amount of money and he just wanted out from Anfield (no surprise). At the moment he just looks like a player that's lacking motivation which all comes down to the club he's playing for. I think his playing style would compliment Rooney's. Would be a good partnership.. A lot of people think Torres has lost it, but he hasn't.. I still think he has incredible ability.

Ozwald

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I wasn't comparing the players RebelRed, Cleverly and Pogba are no where near Scholes and Keane yet. What i'm saying is, they could be, in years to come. There is great potential there and we can hope that that partnership could blossom.

As for Torres 'Ozwald', i think he'd be great under SAF. He was so good at Liverpool because Gerrard et al played to supply for him. He was the focal point of the attack and i think he would be the focal point if he was here. He wouldn't lack motivation and SAF would know what to do and would put faith in him - Villas Boas does not do that.

RedDevil19

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Yeah i used to rate AVB a lot higher, but since he's gone to Chelsea he hasn't been great. Also i agree that if anyone could get Torres back to what he used to be like, it would be SAF! It's funny because i think AVB said that Torres wasn't going anywhere, and that they were going to wait for him to rediscover his form but apparently Carlo Ancelotti said that Torres has been offered to him! So.. they're obviously not firm on him 'not going anywhere'. Although selling him to another PL club such as Man United is a different matter..

Ozwald

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Stranger things have happened thats for sure, who would of said that Liverpool would sell their star man to Chelsea and then buy the pub land lord Andy Carrol for as much as they did? We have always had an interest in Torres and probably that is still the case today!

RedDevil19

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I'd stear well clear tbh; his poor form hasn't been a recent development remember...he's been misfiring for 18 months now for Chelsea, Liverpool and Spain. He would cost at least £20m I would have thought (we're not exactly made of money right now) and would probably be after wages of well over £100k p/w.

Is it really worth the risk?

Gav

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I would love to see the four bottom players you've listed at United. Benatia is a class act, Rodwell has potential but needs to step up his game (United are the perfect platfrom for that) Ocampos will be amazing in a few years, Benzema my favourite striker before he went to Madrid but would be outstanding in the Premier League.

United Till I Die 1987

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18 Jan 2012 11:03:23
sorry ed7 thought you'd know which spurs player i meant in exchange had forgotten your facetiousness. The little croatian fella. Also heard the lad at wigan is being watched a lot. Mccarthy {Ed007's Note - Sorry, my mind reading skills aren't at their peak at this time in the morning, that or you must have tinfoil wrapped round your head to block me out.}

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18 Jan 2012 10:57:38
********* have said that we have made a 30 million bid Hazard. Personally I dont believe it but I dont know how reliable they are.

Haze {Ed007's Note - 100% unreliable Haze.}

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Bloody Hell, Lille are asking £35m,...way too much.

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18 Jan 2012 09:51:19
just heard off a good source that united trying to negotiate deal for hazard and let Lille keep him till summer

Bernard

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I've read the same thing! Hope this is true! Any body know any more on it?
Carl

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Always liked the guy and really think he would be a sound move for us but unfortunately we always get link to the best footballers at some point so i wouldn't get excited yet until we can see something concrete.

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Much as I'd like this to be true, I don't think we have the kind of money to outbid Chelsea.

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But Chelsea are spending like they used to,and there not really title contenders,Chelsea won't want to risk spending 30-40 mill players so soon after Torres for 50 mill it's to risky for them

Bernard

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We have. It's not about outbidding, it's about the players preference.

rpc

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If we have put in a bid for Hazard then I cant se why we would loan him back to Lille until the end of the season when we are crying out for someone like him now.

Dont get your hopes up guys cant see this one happening. Honda if anyone will be the one to come.

Jay

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Man utd are the biggest beneficiaries of financial fair play. NO team will be able to outbid us now and in the future. not chelsea, real madrid, nor man city. and the reason is simple: we can spend 40m on one player because we generate that kind of money year-on-year. we're the biggest and most profitable sports franchise in the world. even in the past, we've always spent what we made. other clubs (madrid, mancity, chelsea, etc) spend "borrowed" money on transfers, and financial fair play does not allow that.

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Please don't describe manchester united or any other football club with well over a century worth of history as a franchise again.
Kf

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Dont forget about man city's plans to develop the surround area of ethiad into a huge sports development area with plenty of sports shops! City have planned for the furture when the financial fairplay rules come into play.

United have done well for the last couple of years due to the glazers business sense in gaining big advertising contracts (DHL) hopefully we will be dept free in 4-5 years!

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Citeh can develope what they like,they are never going to match our commercial income and our matchday income is almost double theirs.they cant even fill a stadium with almost 30,000 less capacity than ours.it all sounds promising but no doubt the likes of citeh,chelsea and madrid will have found ways around the ffp rules already.

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I can't see clubs being too worried about the new ffp rules for at least a few years yet, if at all tbh.

The guidelines/punishments sound weak and tenuous. I'm sure there'll be ways around them for the close future at least.

Shame for us!

Gav

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