Manchester United Rumours Archive July 18 2012

 

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18 Jul 2012 22:41:11
What was the final score lads and who apart from Kiko scored?

Jono

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Don't worry Jono mate you know all you need to know. It ended 1-0. Lol.

Shappy

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Finished 1-0 mate. Kiko with the only goal!

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Bebe scored a hat trick in the last ten minutes.

G.A.G.U.S

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18 Jul 2012 21:58:37
seriously if we have bid 38millon euroes for lucas and now about to bid 42 mil i dnt knw why we havnt bid for martinez whose clause is 40mil . we need that type of player more importantly than lucas. last year we had a problem of creating but the even bigger problem was when teams had possesion we couldnt get it off them. carrick is not a dmf or a holding player hes more of a passenger. and scholes and giggs are getting on we need a proper cm dnt knw why were bidding for lucas unless nani is definitely being sold which i dont want.

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Wouldn't worry about the clause mate...there's more to it than that...as I've learnt from the all knowing eds!;) Martinez would be great I agree, but I reckon Witsel is a better bet, or maybe Fellaini. But he's not popular around here so forgot I even said his name!

Andy

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Martinez won't come to England. No point wasting time pursuing that one... as good as he is. Fergie will have a plan though. He has his targets. But as many have said Moura is a game changer. He has ability to pinch a winner from nowhere (so I for one hope we land him). Kagawa can thread it through the eye of needle - we've lacked that too. So, we're getting there. Watch this space I guess.

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Yes Martinez has 40 million by out but thts sterling an the bid for moura is 41 million euros there's a diffrence

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I'm so disappointed that no one seemed to read the article from that blog that Mort c&p'd on the banter page. Ed do you remember the name of the blog?

It essentially explained why we don't seem to be persuing CM and are instead bidding for more attacking players. Lots of pressure defending high up the field, winning the ball back quicker. Closer to the style we were playing at the beginning of last season. If we buy a CM or DM to replace Carrick then we will continue to play in the same boring style we have done for most of the past few years, which has been proven to not work in Europe.

Joe

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No its not sterling! its 40 million euros

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The buy out is in euros but maybe the edds can help out i think an english club would have to spend an extra 10% or something along them lines .
I cant rember but it was discussed with the agureo move
jred

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Joe, Attacking midfielders don't neccesarily give you good pressing high up the pitch. The right type of central midfielder will press more and winn the ball both through tackles and interceptions, much more than most attacking midfielders ever will. Look at Barca for a perfect example of this, Iniesta and co are not just masters of keeping the ball but also pressing and winning the ball.

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I am a United fan and would sign for them over anyelse but not all players support United and many dont want to play in england.......maybe thats why we are not bidding for him

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18 Jul 2012 21:18:23
From my contacts at Everton I can tell you we have definitely not put in any kind of bid for Baines at Everton. I AM KLOOT

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Thank you, so it looks like its just tabloid guff. But no doubt Syd will believe we still hold an interest and a bid in iniment. lol

Shappy

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It's the media who have been wanting this transfer to happen not Utd fans, so im for one am not surprised we're not in for Baines whatsoever.

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I doubt any sort of formal/written bids will be made right now. I think SAF, Gill, Elstone, Moyes and Kenright will discuss prices amongst themselves until fee is agreed. That is how other deals between the clubs have been done. Not many will be privy to the info, but I still believe we will go for Baines. I am certain we will buy a LB, although not certain it will be Baines.

Sydney!

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KLOOT does seem to be up to speed with everton add to that that moyes has said there has been no contact it makes you wonder if it is all paper talk.
mind you that may change if after watching brady in one first team game fergy came to the same conclusion as syd " can safely say that Brady will not be Evra's understudy next season and will likely go out on loan as a LW"
jred

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Careful Shappy mate, just two days ago you said you believed Evra will be first choice and Blackett will be his understudy. Now I do not mind getting a player prediction wrong (IE Baines), but getting it wrong tactically would be worse and if we do bring in a LB who isn't Baines, you will be the one who looks daft not me.

I said Blackett is a couple loans away from a fixed place, you think he will be Evra's understudy next season. I said we will buy a LB and you said you didn't believe we would. Lets see who's right. I have even stuck my neck out and named Baines as the player I believe the club will go for. I believe I have at least 2/3 of them correct, Baines coming would make it 3/3.

It's on ;)

Sydney!

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I think we will might buy a lb but dont think it will be baines for reasons that have been discussed far to much
jred

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Good! At the top of our age bracket structure. Over rated. Certainly over-priced. Close that chapter!

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Jred, it's all fun and games mate and I do not mind sticking my neck on the line. Baines is a prediction and is potluck, but getting it right tactically is far more important. I did believe Evra would go this summer, but with Fabio not yet ready (in the manager's eyes) that has put a spanner in the works. But I guess we weren't privy to SAF's personal thoughts ;)

If I was a betting man I would bet that the manager wants to bring in Baines to replace Evra as number one, then next summer Fabio to replace Evra as the number two. If Fabio had been 'ready' I think it would have been a straight swap this summer, Baines in, Evra out. Fabio not being ready to be an understudy this summer onwards was a shock to me if I am honest.

Anyway lads I am shattered so speak tomorrow.

Sydney!

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LOL Syd, I didn't name anyone as Evra's understudy i just felt that it would be someone already at the club. And i still think Evra will be first choice next season. Like i've said many times i want a new LB i just don't think we'll get one. If we were to get one then i'm pretty sure it won't be Baines. I think if we were to sign a LB i would expect someone like Martin Olsson or Bryan Oviedo basicly someone to come in and be Evra's understudy. But thats a big if. lol.

Like you said we'll see who's right at which point i'll expect my apoligy to have a cherry on top;) lol.

Shappy

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Sydney
lol so you might be wrong but not as wrong as shappy that sounds a bit childish to be honest.
i think the main point me and shappy were making is that evra still has the managers confidence and any lb , be it from inside the club or outside will be an understudy.
if evra stays as no1 choice i fail to see how we have got it tactically wrong.
however if thats not the case im sure me and shappy are big enough to hold our hands up and say we got it wrong (with out making excusses)
jred

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KLOOT is being a little disingenuous, I suspect, as it fits his "we never spend" agenda. There have been enquiries made about availability and a price for Baines, but that is probably as far as it's gone (particularly with the price Everton probably quoted).

DarkLard08

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If i'm wrong i'm wrong, no excuses. I'll take it on the chin. But Jred has it spot on. We just think Evra will.be first choice next season. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Shappy

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Sorry lads been a busy bee today, jred my original point a few days ago when this all started was that I believed we will sign a LB and I believed the LB will be Baines. Then Shappy posted in reply to ME (my post) that he didn't believe we will buy a LB, he believed that Blackett will be the understudy to Evra. I disagreed and said that Blackett is a couple loans away from being ready for the first team and he disagreed.

One day later Shappy then believed Brady may be the understudy due to what the manager said. I again completely disagree that Brady will be our second LB next season. Brady is not a LB and the only reason he is playing there is because we are short on LB's. If Fryers was still at the club Brady may not have even went on tour.

A day later Shappy now believes we may buy an understudy for Evra, this is possible which I have said from the start, but IMO highly unlikely, I think this will only happen if we fail to buy Baines. I have maintained from the start that we will buy a LB this summer. That was the whole point of this discussion. I believed a LB will be signed, Shappy disagreed. he seems to have changed his mind about a player being signed, but still doesn't see Baines being signed. That is fair enough as Baines was just a prediction.

I said we will buy a LB this summer and I still believe we will.

Sydney!

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Syd
sorry pal but thats simply not true
shappy reply was
" I don't think Baines is gonna come in but i would expect a LB, it's just Baines doesn't ring true as a Sir Alex signing. "

the following day shappy was the op, his main comment was

"This to me shows how highly Sir Alex thinks of Evra. This is why IMO i don't see us signing a first choice LB. I say first choice as i could see us signing someone to be Evra's understudy, but with Fabio Blackett and possibly Brady i could understand if we didn't bring one in. Bearing in mind that Evans and Giggs can do a job at LB as well. "

I dont know why you have such an issue with this just let it go and see what happens
jred

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I actually never said anyone specifically would be Evra's understudy just that it was more likely to come from within the club rather than buying someone. But I never ruled out that we MAY sign someone.just that I thought we aren't likely too. My main arguement was that you kept saying that we will sign Baines and was stating it like it was fact which I felt was misleading.

Either way water under the bridge and we'll see who's right soon enough. Lol.

Shappy

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"i was thinking the same when i saw the squad , evra first choice blackett as understudy
jred"

"I think we'll see Evra as first choice with Blackett as back up. Then we'll see how Evra Fabio and Blackett have performed and readdress the situation next summer IMO.
Shappy"

I disagreed and said I believed we will sign a LB. That was the original difference in opinion. I believed we would sign a new LB this summer, you and Shappy disagreed.

Now lets leave it at that shall we?

Sydney!

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Syd
just let it go pal its ok to be wrong its getting embarrassing, lets just wait and see what happens
jred

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Shappy mate, Baines to United is just a prediction. I am by no means 100% sure we will sign Baines. However I was certain we will buy a LB whereas you and jred (albeit at first) were saying Evra will be number one with Blackett as understudy, that is what I strongly disagreed with mate. Anyway who cares right ;)

Here's a question for you, what do you see happening at RB? Signing or Rafael and Jones rotating?

Sydney!

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Syd
We both agreed it was possible that Blackett would be understudy , I don't think at any point I I've said we will def not sign a lb .
Brady could be understudy Blackett could be we might buy one we might sell evra .
The truth is I don't no and won't pretend I do but I am open to more than one point of view
Jred

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Fair enough jred mate.

Sydney!

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18 Jul 2012 20:21:13
Has Sir Alex personally talked with Lucas Moura or is he planning to when he arrives in England for the Olympics, the same way he talked to Kagawa and (not sure) Powell? {Ed002's Note - Moura is already in England.}

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Would be difficult if moura is in Enland and SAF is in Africa.....

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If it's true that we've submitted several bids for the lad then I think we can safely say at some point SAF has spoken with him and his family... through an interpreter no doubt.

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18 Jul 2012 20:05:39
clyne signed for saints on four year deal so this puts end to another story

rodio17

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18 Jul 2012 19:39:29
Jesse Lingard looks a player... stand out player in this first half. Would have been interesting if Larnell Cole wasn't injured to see what both were like. Remember Scholes comparing them to Xavi and Iniesta

fearny

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Berbatov man of the match
johndenton

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Berbatov was class... but for a 19 year old to play his debut in front of a full house and to not look out of place next to the greatest united midfielder in Paul Scholes just shows the boy is class, and was definaetly my MOTM

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Those of us who have watched the reserves, and academy teams, can take a certain amount of satisfaction in watching some very good young players hopefully breakthrough into the first team. Ok, there was a couple of bad eggs, ( or just plain dumb ) but they've gone now, and while we do have a history of spending if need be, we shouldn't get too excited by every player who happens to appear on youtube or fancy name that the media decide is flavour of the month. They do it to sell papers!

J - Stand

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Thought scott wooton had a very good game as well
johndenton

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18 Jul 2012 19:36:58
1-0 Macheda - Playing well at the moment!

Hobbes

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Always does play well in pre season and scores,then the prem comes along....

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Too slow in the modern game.

J - Stand

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18 Jul 2012 19:06:11
Lucas Moura: {Ed002's Note - The feeling from someone in Brazil is that he thinks that Manchester United will probably not make any further offer for Lucas Moura as they feel they have already bid to the best value of the player. He cannot be certain there will be no higher bids but he can be certain that if there are then the club would be paying over the odds for the player.

Furthermore, the Ribeiro discussions in Colorado which he was involved with surrounded a part ownership deal that would see the player move to Italy for two years at some point and then a full buy out of his rights resulting in either a sale or perhaps a move to the part owning club. It was considered to be impractical.}

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Thanks for the info Ed002, much appreciated. Do you know whether this probable final bid will be enough? And also does the impracticality of the move to Italy (presumably Inter) mean that they won't make any further moves for the player?

Cheers
Rudderpost {Ed002's Note - Unless MUFC have a stash of money the offer will likely be off the table. The Inter situation will not go away.}

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Thanks Ed, chances are they would only reject the next bid too. They seem to be messers.

Sydney!

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Have to say im pretty disappointed. Moura and witsel would be a dream.

Doni

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Dont you all think this Moura Deal is a scam....1st of all if Fergie is after a player , he does his upmost to do the deal personally , meeting the player and players family etc. Also fergie has been quite over the whole affair....Lets face it if we are offering 30 million , surely we can afford a much adaptable player from withing europe , who will be used to the EPL....Not gonna mention any names as there is to many of late who MANUTD have been asscocaited with..

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Thanx ed 002 ..thats a gr8 job tp found truth in colorado story.. i was looking for it as u had previously pointed about it. now i guess that meeting only pushed united to move quickly as delegation went on same time. now all jigsaw fiting in.. it means SAF want this guy and 3rd bid is likely. i m positive that i will soon see him in a red shirt. so all..
rodio17

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What a tallent. but at the quoted price, im not sure. we should develop some of our youth. i would love to see tom cleverley with nick powel eventually, get the english boys in.

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Cheers Ed. Interesting stuff.

Shappy

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18 Jul 2012 17:11:18
What are the chances of us signing Witsel ? He would be a good addition in my opinion. Also any chances of Mario Gomez coming in and Thiago from barca ?

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Yeah, messi and ronaldo aswell while we're at it........

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There might be a bit of a price difference and ability difference, get to know about the game and the kind of players we need, all of which mentioned are affordable and will win us trophies.

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I think if Bayern were willing to sell their star players, we'd be after Schweinsteiger and not Gomez. Would love to see Thiago at Old Trafford, but can't see him leaving Barca.

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Am i the only one who thinks that gomez is an absolute donkey?

why dont we sign up emile heskey to go with him

philiphs93

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Gomez is not a donkey, he is a proven goalscorer unlike heskey, and can finish crosses with his head unlike heskey, Gomez is worth a bid.

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LOL, no chance.

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Agree with Witsel as a definate purchase if we can, thiago wont come as for gomez no chance dont want him or need him really.

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Gomez would not fit united's style of play.

He cant run, he doesn't track back and he shins half of the goals that he scores

Philiphs93

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I think Gomez is a donkey aswell!

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18 Jul 2012 17:06:23
Ed002...was just looking at your responses to a post down the page a bit regarding Witsel. Just wondering if you are aware of how much the offer would have to be to get him? Surely if we do buy Moura, any other player we look at will have their price drastically increased by their club considering the amount we may pay for Moura. Thoughts?

Andy {Ed002's Note - I really would want to avoid discussion of money as far as possible.}

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18 Jul 2012 16:52:36
Have we enquired about witsel or Kevin prince boateng ? {Ed002's Note - Witsel.}

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18 Jul 2012 16:59:39
Apologies for copy and paste, but we have some quotes(bare in mind it is translated):

Just a bit Moura for Lucas Moura is the message coming from Brazil regarding Manchester United's pursuit of the talented youngster. For all the claims of not wanting to sell the player, there's always a hint left in quotes that the club would be prepared to listen to a better offer.

The Premier League's first offer was refused which prompted them to return with a larger one, originally thought to be 38m. Globo Esporte said Manchester United had 'opened the safe' to make the new move but that it was turned down.

Sao Paulo board adviser Marco Aurelio Cunha has spoken to Italian press, TMW, and hinted that just a little more could help, he quoted a different price of the last bid but it's possible that has been fudged as currencies have translated, or that he is only counting the amount Sao Paulo receive and not the cut going to Moura and his representatives "Manchester United have made a very important proposal, exactly equal to 35m.

"They should offer a few more. For me there is only Lucas after Neymar and we do not want to sell."

The comments contradict themselves clearly, Sao Paulo either want more money or they don't want to sell. This game of kiss chase they seemingly want Manchester United to enter is reminiscent of transfer circuses gone by and the club will be wary to get too deeply involved. However, it's unlikely they'd go to the extent of making such huge offers if they didn't have a very real interest.

Cunha went on to say "We do not need the money, the Brazilian economy is fine, the TV pay us and we cannot complain."

With TMW being Italy based they naturally asked about interest from Serie A clubs, namely Inter Milan, and the reply is "No, at least until the Olympics we will not move from here. Better to have a strong player in the team than some extra cash in the bank, this is the thought of all of us.

"Where Inter is concerned, we have a good relationship. But business is business, and Lucas remains with us."

Manchester United will be deciding what to do next as Lucas Moura excitedly awaits the Olympics with Brazil.

G.A.G.U.S

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I do hope we dont sign this guy, everything about him indicates a waste of money.

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Ok I could be wrong and I probably am but in my opinion I can't honestly believe that united have offered 38 million for this kid he is unproven and need I remind everyone he is only 19. If we have indeed offered that money and it was turned down then we should forget him, personally I think that money could be better spent on someone we need and in my opinion we NEED a CDM of real quality there is 2 or 3 out there and if 38 million could get Javi Martinez then he would be worth every penny.

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Has anyone else noticed that when ever a club official speaks about the lucas deal its to an italian reporter and always includes inter.
I really hope im wrong on this but i said 2 month ago that lucas will go to inter and im sticking to it.
if united are negotiating with them i bet we're not happy about sao paulo being so open with the media.
fingers crossed im wrong
jred

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I'm sorry but I don't think utd would offer anywhere near that kind of money for a 19 yr old who has never played outside of Brazil. Lets get our heads out of the clouds. It's just wishful gossip.

J - Stand

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It is interesting how it only seems to be Brazilian press, Italian press and The Daily Mail (that has been awful for terrible rumours this summer) that have really picked up on it. None of the major English sites that arent merely gossip ones seem to be paying close attention to it, and nothing has come from the club either. Do find this whole saga a strange one, and havent been over whelmed really from the little I have seen of him playing for Brazil. Still the inner muppet gets excited about a potentially very gifted player signing :)
Invisible Stuey

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The sad thing is on Friday when Brazil whoop the GB boys in a friendly and Lucas catches the eyes of many other teams, the price will go up..... and those Man United fans who say he is not worth it now will be eating their words at least! Come on SAF, spend another £5m. I belong to a United group in Florida and we will pay for a season ticket each to recoup United expense - just so we can see Lucas in a red shirt!
Tim from Tampa

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18 Jul 2012 16:38:10
That would be just about a perfect transfer market with

Coming in -
Shinji Kagawa
Nick Powell
Axel Witsel
Lucas Moura

Going Out -
Dimitar Berbatov
Luis Nani
Anderson - Even though I rate him very highly !
Fryers

I would love to see Valencia as a wing back and then Rafael switched to the left and Evra dropped then Moura and Nani but its not gonna happen

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I think i would be a happy man if we started the season with those players.

Simmo

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That's been tried at Carrington! Not sure what the official opinion was though, but to my untrained eye it looked pretty good, though nothing could compare with a real match. Plus what the training team and Fergie look for in players in varying positions and what I see are a million miles apart!

J - Stand

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Why would you take Valencia out of his best position? He's been amazing since signing with us, esp proving alot of doubters wrong.
Keep him where he is best and causes the most damage.

melwing28

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You want to put our best winger at right back? While your at it Rooney goes in net at training, give a game or two between the sticks next season.

Joe.a

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18 Jul 2012 13:56:39
Apparantly Fergie has his eyes set on Moura, despite these rubbish reports on Daily Mail, Goal etc.

Third bid of 41.5 million Euros to be submitted today or tomorrow.

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Sounds like moura's club are trying to get an auction going?

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Ild pay the money.

MUFC1990

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It wouldn't surprise me if they are trying to turn it into an auction, Utd bid £32m or so which is turned down then walk away and he ends up going to AC Milan for £25m. Seems to happen time and time again.

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If they reject 41.5 then united shouldnt go any further

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18 Jul 2012 11:37:07
I've been thinking about full backs since Sir Alex said yesterday that Brady will be played at LB. At first I thought this was a bad idea and possibly a cost cutting exercise. But the more I think about it the more it looks like it could be a good idea.

The best performance i've seen from a full back this season was Alaba's against Real Madrid. Which is interesting seeing as he started his career as a midfielder/winger and not a defender. Also the best two full backs at the euro's was Coentrao and Alba both of which were wingers until they were about 21.

The way football has moved on can be seen most in the evolution of full backs. Wingers now are marked with the job of being more creative and coming inside to create. So the job of providing width is passed on to the full backs. Not a full back has to get forward stretch the play and cross the ball. They also need to be good passers with the ability play in inter linking play. These are traits which normally are things you'd look for in a winger so it would make sense to look at wingers to play full back.

Brady is a talented lad but he neither has the explosiveness or the imagination to be a top winger. But he is very good at crossing the ball, has good vision and reading of the game, is great passer and has strength and pace. He has all the traits that are needed to be a modern full back. There are areas he'll need to work on if he is going to be a top full back but so does every 20yo player. He needs to learn to be less rash in the tackle and his defensive reading of the game but these are learned through playing football. The one area he'll have to work on though is his fitness as he tends to fade toward the last 15 minutes of the game. If he is to be a top full back he'll need to be able to last the whole game without issue. But again this is something he can do easily enough.

So if he does the work then it could be a master class move by the gaffer. Here's hoping it is, I miss seeing a talented irishman in the team.

Shappy

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Evra was a winger. A right winger I believe? Brady's biggest hurdle is his defensive play. He is no good at defending, at least hasn't been great up til now. I see him as a mid-table club's left winger. Like a Jarvis or Downing. I have little doubts Blackett will be our long-term LB as he oozes class. He will need a loan out or two first though.

Sydney!

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I agree totally about full backs have changed to wingers it could be a gd move dnt no to much about Brady dnt no if he would or could be a future lb

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Great point you make there, and I would like to see more of the younger players breaking into the first team.

Brady may be a good option considering that Evra will still get the lions share of the games whatever happens barring injury.

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I think Brady's biggest problem for a LB spot is Blackett.
Superior in every way from what i've seen.
A real athlete and a good footballer to boot.
Brady has some good ability, but Blackett is already looking the best bet long term, depending on how Fabio does.

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Blackett will have the spot long term but I feel Brady would offer a.better attacking option at LB so would still have a place in the squad. Also Blackett may be a year or two away and would need to be broken in slowly more than likely.

Shappy

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I do not see Brady even being in the United squad next season, perhaps a loan move to Hull again or perhaps an EPL club.

Sydney!

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18 Jul 2012 10:49:58
Seems things are finally starting to pick up on the Berbatov front. Only speculation at this time but it seems AC Milan and Spurs are now interested in him. We will need to move him on before we start to see deals being completed our end surely?

Sydney!

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Syd you say spurs are interested.... any change of including him in a deal for mods. or can you only see him moving to madrid now ??

oxred

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Rumours will start going around about Berbatov to Spurs shortly, although I find it very unlikely to come to fruition. Mods will join Madrid, at least that's where he wants to go and Spurs want to sell him to.

Sydney!

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Was gonna ask the same question oxred. Syd how much do you think this will help in the Modric case. Higuan has gone public saying he would like to see Modric at Real, a sign that things aren't working out for Real maybe?.....

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No name perez has said he expects modric to sign
i think higuan's comments were almost a welcome to the club
jred

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I wouldn't sell to spurs after the way they make it so awkward to deal with teen tryin to sign one of their players

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Really can't see Spurs wanting to take him back.

melwing28

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Yea agree with this Syd, I'm told we are prepared to spend up to 40m without the movement of Berba, but with him away it could enable another buy (no price mentioned), as on top of the 9-12m fee hopefully received, it would free up a slot for high-end wage.
Sydney's Mother!

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Fergy has said he would accept 5mill for berb
jred

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18 Jul 2012 09:21:30
Ed002, Good morning. Can I ask if the figures being bandied about in this Moura pursuit accurate? If so why do Sao Paulo keep upping their asking price? Are they purposely trying to be difficult or are the media reports just inaccurate? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - He has what may be construed to be a difficult agent.}

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I think it's the players agent who's dragging this out as their percentage goes up from 20% to 30% on 1st August of any transfer fee.

Langers

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Thanks Ed, can I ask what do you see happening here? Are your views the same or are you slightly surprised by the amount of United interest in getting the deal completed?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - The situation with Lucas Moura is complicated and it could drag out all summer and come to nothing. I would not discount any of the interested clubs getting him if he moves, nor would I discount him staying until the end of the year and discussions starting again in January.

I have a feeling that MUFC interest in Axel Witsel will be re-ignited.}

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I would maybe disagree with you there Ed, His agent is a known Man Utd fan and has been pushing the move on, its the clubs president that seems to be difficult. The clubs board is happy to sell Lucas but the President is holding out for more

fearny {Ed002's Note - Really; you might want to find out what he was doing in Colorado last week then.}

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Ah, so it looks like the Modric deal has finally slipped away. Although Witsel is not an alternative to Modric position-wise, it is a much needed central midfielder nonetheless. Ed is it true Benfica are keen on Anderson? If so is a rare player exchange possible in your opinion? Thanks.

Sydney!

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Ed002, is it the player and agent that will share 20% of the fee? If that's the case will there be no other agent fees on top of the transfer fee? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Agent fees will be on top.}

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I think we should just wash our hands of the player. There are other players out there who are better - and a lot bloody cheaper. His club are just taking the p.ss IMO.

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No no there is no player better then him at 19

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I would rather keep Anderson than have witsel !!!

Sparkyred

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18 Jul 2012 00:18:52
Ed's just read that Arsenal may be will to part with Theo Walcott. Around what do you think the figure would be? Would he be worth a punt as our final striker when Berba leaves? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea about a fee.}

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No, just no, not Walcott! Both Hernandez and welbeck are much better players! We won't need a 4th striker as kagawa will be played behind Rooney as my guess.
Carl

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And where would walcott fit into the side? Not a chance son.

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I can't think of any circumstance where Walcott would become "worth a punt", unless running fast in a straight line and then not controlling the ball properly suddenly becomes a sport in its own right.

DarkLard08

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Walcott and United shouldn't be in the same sentance.

melwing28

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Agree with all the replies, just no

Gav

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17 Jul 2012 22:35:47
Ed,
Any idea if one of the offers for RVP is from man utd

Discountdave {Ed002's Note - I don't know.}

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18 Jul 2012 10:31:50
Just been told that Lucas is SAF number one transfer target now. 3rd bid will go in today or tomorrow.
PJ

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18 Jul 2012 10:29:09
perez confirms madrid are close to a deal for modric
jred

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Awell hes overated and 26

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18 Jul 2012 09:38:02
rumours of berb to AC , ive got a funny feeling they are more likely to sign RVP
jred

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I had a similar thought yesterday mate.

Sydney!

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I've had an sneaky feeling it would be a deadline day job. However, bids are on the table, Berb's is gone effectively...but Milan are also interested Dzeko which could lead to City making space too.
SB.

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18 Jul 2012 08:21:20
Security outside the Bridgwater hospital this morning which is unusual,, medical booked for a new signing ?? Any ideas ?

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Surely medicals are done at Carrington

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I believe theyr'e filming the next episode of Holby City .

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Medicals not done at Carrington, they don't have all the equipment necessary. Also medicals need to be independent for legal reasons

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Yes there was a medical to do for actually a few players !! , rivaldo, cafu, fat ronaldo, overmars and figo !! the shock ! Lol

Dio

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18 Jul 2012 07:55:36
Security outside the bridgewater hospital this morning, which is unusual!! Medical booked for a new signing ???

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Funny how it coincides with the Brazil team arrival, another false rumour

Cape Town, SA

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A man city signing for sure.

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My girlfriend works at Bridgwater and she did say that there was an evac test today and some emergency testings no rumours of medicals whatsoever . MINDY !

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All Utd medicals are done at Bridgewater private hospital in Moss Side

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18 Jul 2012 07:34:56
Heard a rumour from my brother who plays for the celtic youth academy that United have agreed a fee of 8m in principle for Izaguirre (spelling) but they are still waiting to get the deal sorted before the 25th July before the game in Ireland.

jple23

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I hoPe your right..

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Ed07... any news on this ??

oxred {Ed007's Note - No deal with anyone has been agreed regarding Izaguirre.}

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18 Jul 2012 05:29:02
Bbc and daily mail claim that van Persie is interested in joining inter or man utd

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I have heard that we will need to offload Berbatov and Kiko before we would be allowed to go for RVP. Orders from the United Hierarchy apparently. Don't know how accurate this is.

Sydney!

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18 Jul 2012 01:18:56
Whoooppppssss...where now?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2174910/Lucas-Moura-30m-Manchester-United-bid-rejected-Sao-Paulo.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I know it's the Daily Mail but i thought id post it.

Simmo

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Quite strange this one as in the headline it said we have now given up the chase as the last bid was rejected, BUT nowhere in the article says that is the case. I think the club may make one more bid but we will see.

Sydney!

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It says UTD "may" need to go elsewhere so there is nothing solid there at all even if the bids are true. So it's hearsay on hearsay.
Wouldn't be too pushed about the article.

RebelRed

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I still have a sneaky feeling this transfer may happen, mainly due to the fact that the players father and the board seem to want the deal utd are offering, it seems they are against what the president is doing and want to accept, if the player and his father can maybe reduce there % and get man utd to offer a suitable wage then it will happen.
the player is in england so would be pretty straight forward as soon as a deal is struck, also can see this being the last transfer we will make

UNITEDFORLIFE75

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