Manchester United Rumours Archive November 18 2010

 

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18 Nov 2010 22:15:02
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Not really a rumour, but if anyone needs a justification of Bebe's price (whether it be 4M or 7M) then watch his two goals against Wigan's reserves that he scored today. Both excellent goals.

On the goalkeeper situation. .Lindegaard seems to be a done deal from everything i'm reading. The Times paper and some people on Twitter also suggesting De Gea is on his way. Now one should never believe the majority of what one reads, although the Times is generally a reliable source. I hope it's true.

Rudderpost

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18 Nov 2010 21:45:06
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Utd will sign de gea at the end of season as well as lindergaard in january-fact!

defour is a done deal and they are also intrested in fellow belgium team mate eden hazard-young midfielder who looks to have a big future who wouldn't cost alot.

also sanchez is almost a cert!

so its the 2 keepers and the 3 players i just said about but expect a few to leave/retire to so big changes to come at OT!

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18 Nov 2010 21:12:04
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Ed this is the Balague tweet, what is this saying in English?

"Congrats to Times.All practically tied up for de Gea for June+Atletico can't do anything if 20m buy out clause paid"

Is it saying, Well done to the times for discovering this story, its true and its all signed and ready for him to join United in the summer? Is it saying that Atletico may not like it but tough as United have met the buy-out clause?
{Editor's note - I do not know if it is true but what it means is that Man Utd activated De Gea's buyout clause and Atletico can do nothing}

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18 Nov 2010 21:00:19
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The left wing problem will be resovled by a.sanchez
he loves cutting in from the left side of midfeild he has a leafal right root

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18 Nov 2010 20:51:20
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I can c a 4-5-1 formation for v long term future
rooney will leave 4 real with a 40 million bid and benzema
henderson will be bought 4 13 million plus diouf
de gea 12 million plus kusazack
v rest to pay off dephts

~Another one who knows jack sh!t about United, Rooney is not going anywhere, especially not to Real Madrid, they pay Ronaldo 170k a week, they are not going to equal Rooney's current United wage of 250k a week are they?

Think before you type, De Gea would cost around 15m and why would Atletico want Kuszczak when they have Asenjo? As for Benzema replacing Rooney, think again, he is not half the player Rooney is.

Come on guys if you are guna lie at least make it believable!

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18 Nov 2010 20:43:20
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Ed, Aalesund president has said he expects the deal to be done within 48hrs while Guillem Balague has said on Twitter that De Gea for next summer is a done deal as well. Apparently his 20m euro buyout clause has been met and Atletico have no say in the deal. Surely this means we will be signing 2 keepers?
{Editor's note - Looks that way atm}

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18 Nov 2010 20:36:44
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I can c a 4-5-1 formation for v long term future
rooney will leave 4 real with a 40 million bid and benzema
henderson will be bought 4 13 million plus diouf
de gea 12 million plus kusazack
v rest to pay off dephts

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18 Nov 2010 18:31:58
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It has been confirmed that Lindegaard will sign for Manchester United within the next 48 hours, a fee has been agreed and its in the region of £3.5m. He is 26, 6ft 4" tall. His wages although are still to be agreed will be in the region of 20k a week.

He is likely to replace Kuszczak who is apparently being lined up by a Russian side for around £3m. This is good business by United.

EDITOR - Have you seen him play? This has to be a good deal, an unhappy Kuszczak out and a new keeper in for a similar price?

{Editor's Note: I have not seen him play - and to be honest it is easy not to notice how keepers play unless they have a great game or a poor game. He comes with a decent reputation but it is a big step up.}

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18 Nov 2010 18:28:33
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Lindegaard to fill Kuszczak's gloves?
Rumour has it that Lindegaard is not good enough to become number 1 straight away. Suppose he is not proven in English football as he has come from Norway, not the strongest league in the world.

So is De Gea being lined up as no.1?
Kuszczak will leave at the end of the season in search of first team football - fact.

Ed, what do you think? Is he being brought in as no.2?

{Editor's Note: I don't think he is being bought as a number two keeper. If the move goes through I do not expect De Gea to arrive.}

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18 Nov 2010 16:49:12
Surely with the Alleged arrivals of Linegaard and De Gea Ou young keeper Ben Amos must be thinking his OT career is over?


So if the rumours are correct our Kepping situation has been resolved. Next up is the Midfield.

I feel Defour is a Must - he's proven he can play and that his previous form wasn't a one off. He's just come back a mjor injury and he's practically playing like he was before he got injured.

He has steele and a good eye for a pass. He's good defensively and i always looking to move the ball forward rather than back.

Henderson? Yeah ok he has great potential but i personally would rather have Defour now and take another look at henderson next year. price may rise but then again we will have a few surplus to requirement midfielders that can be offered up as makeways.

We need a left winger - Nani plays Sh*te on the left compared to the right so a full time left winger is whats needed. Valencia and nani can fight it out for supremacy over the right wing.

Any ideas as to who we could have on the left?

as for strikers: I'm personally happy with what we have. let's see how they progress over the next year and then decide who we need and don't need.

Oh as for Berba? I feel if the likes of Tw/tface Nani would only spot berba when he creates space instead of trying a ronaldo then he may well get more goals or atleast assist a goal or two.

during the Villa game i counted atleast 4 different occassions were nani alone was responsible for not spotting(or refusing to pass to) Berba.

I'm a converted berba fan - I feel this year he is actually proving himself to be a lot less languid.

As for Nani? well lets just say never been convinced. He is absoluetly pants at corners. He rarely clears the first defender! (surely i cannot be the only one to have noticed this? )

Nani is just so infuriating with his fluctuating form - One game he plays amazing and spurs the team on and then the next game he'll think he's the world best and that no one but him should have a shot on goal. Ego check is what he bloody needs. Ronaldo he will never be! Arrgggh

Ed whats your view on Nani?

MONK
{Editor's note - He is getting better and better as the season goes on.}

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18 Nov 2010 16:18:01
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MANCHESTER UNITED CLOSE IN ON DENMARK KEEPER!

Manchester United are closing in on the signing of Denmark goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard, according to reports on Thursday.

With current No 1 Edwin van der Sar set to retire at the end of the season Alex Ferguson has been searching for a man to take the Dutchman's gloves.

He has been scouring Europe for a new stopper and has scouted the likes of Maarten Stekelenburg of Ajax, Schalke's Manuel Neuer and Lyon's Hugo Lloris, who played for France at Wembley last night.

But with reserve keeper Tomasz Kuszczak also likely to leave Old Trafford this summer, the club have also been looking at Danish keeper Lindegaard, who currently plays for Norwegian club Aalesunds FK, and are reportedly close to announcing a deal has been done for the stopper to join in January, for around £3.5m.

MirrorFootball understands even if the club do sign Lindegaard, they may still pursue a deal for De Gea, to ensure they have two top class keepers after Van der Sar and Kuszczak leave the club.

THIS PAPER SEEMS TO AGREE WITH WHAT 99% OF UNITED FANS BELIEVE, LINDEGAARD WILL BE BROUGHT IN THEN DE GEA, ITS THE ONLY WAY I THINK HE WOULD AGREE TO JOIN, NO ONE WANTS TO COME IN AND SIT ON THE BENCH ED. AND WE KNOW KUSZCZAK IS LEAVING SO I THINK THIS IS HIS REPLACEMENT.

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18 Nov 2010 16:12:14
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Man united to sign kaka with rooney going the other way and 10 mil and defour deal close heard from a very good source don't care if you don't belive me but he heard it first
{Editor's note - Who is getting the money Man Utd or Madrid?}

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18 Nov 2010 16:09:39
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Ed, with Kuszczak leaving in the summer or this January, its a smart move to go for Lindegaard first isn't it? There is no way he would agree to sign if David De Gea was already purchased would he?

So the buys must be wrapped up in this order.

What do you thinks happening Ed?

{Editor's Note: one or the other will likely be signed - but not both.}

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18 Nov 2010 16:01:33
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Manchester United appear to have opened talks with Aalesund over Danish international goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard.

doubt you will be signing de gea now

@United want to find replacements for both Van Der Sar and Kuszczak, United would have to make a move for Lindegaard first as he would not agree to join the club if we bought De Gea would he?

He will want guaranteed first team action therefore he will be bought first and then De Gea will come in after and they will battle it out for the number one jersey.

Sydney!

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18 Nov 2010 15:52:51
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Sydney

We will have to wait until January and the end of the season before we can say one way or the other mate

Red Mick

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18 Nov 2010 15:50:07
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Manchester United appear to have opened talks with Aalesund over Danish international goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard.

doubt you will be signing de gea now

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18 Nov 2010 15:01:41
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Sydney! {ed's note - De Gea I believe to be as close to a certainty as there is, Henderson is likely, Bruce has apparently advised him to take the move, which I find a bit strange myself, surely he should be telling the lad to wait a couple of years and learn his trade at Sunderland? Seems he is forgetting who he is employed by to me! Sanchez was close in the summer till Udinese upped their asking price, but I have heard nothing more on that nor about any talks with Santos sorry.}

@I hope you and the half a dozen papers are right about De Gea, he is world class and its not often you can pick up a world class player at 20 for just 15m. Sanchez's agent has admitted to United making contact and he predicts a deal in the future.

I think with Bruce & Henderson, i think he knows City and Chelsea will turn his head anyway so i think he wants him to go to United for obvious reasons, i also think he wants to build a very strong relationship with United for the chance to either buy Welbeck on first refusal or get other decent youth on loan in the future, i also believe Brucey has one or two targets in the summer and Henderson will fund them both?

Ed United have a huge wealth of youth coming through, i think Bruce wants first dibs on them in the future. What do you think?

Sydney! {ed's note - I just think he is trying to pave the way for himself to take over when Ferguson retires personally.}

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18 Nov 2010 14:51:33
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I see that you grew up near the Carragher's and your family still know theirs. Then you will know that Jamie's father made some rather unfortunate phone calls to local radio stations complaining about "Black" players being picked before his son for England. This did not go down well with the FA and did his England career a lot of damage. RAINFISHTROMBONE {ed's note - his dad has done a lot of damage to Jamie's career, unfortunately there seems to be a lot of this kind of thinking amongst people. I will never understood why he thought it was relevant, especially when you remember that it was mostly John Terry that kept Carragher out of the England team!}

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18 Nov 2010 14:11:27
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@Ed, i can remember you telling me you were from Leicester a couple years ago, you are 36 if i can remember correctly? Is your mate Heskey?

Sydney! {ed's note - you are right on my age, but I am not from Leicester mate, I am from Bootle, but, though he is from the next street to me Carragher is an acquaintance rather than a friend. Drank with him a few times in Sullies before he broke through but never really kept in touch once I moved away, though my uncle is very good friends with the family anyway - same local!}

18 Nov 2010 13:57:08
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Sydney! {ed's note - they give me stories on a number of clubs, players talk to players at other clubs after all. Not all still play for Liverpool anyway, hence why I was able to find out that O'Neill was on his way when all the other sites were talking about who he was going to sign for Villa. I have to admit though, I am becoming more and more reluctant to give out rumours, as Rainfish will no doubt be able to testify, the amount of stick you take is unreal. Worse is that people start thinking you are just making stuff up to get people on to the site. It is impossible to get everything right, but any story you get wrong becomes a stick to beat you with forever!}

@I know what you are saying but anyone with a brain knows that not all deals go ahead for some reason or another, players have a change of heart at the last minute or the club will have a change of heart. One thing you can clarify for people is that clubs are linked to a certain player, by this i mean a bit more concrete than the papers?

Of course the deal may not end up going through but its nice to know that your club is at least looking closely at a target. Can you tell me anyone that Liverpool or United were very close to signing or still are close to signing? Th closest three so far that i have heard of is De Gea, Henderson & Sanchez, i have also heard United are talking to Santos.

Is there anything you have heard that you would not mind sharing?

Sydney! {ed's note - De Gea I believe to be as close to a certainty as there is, Henderson is likely, Bruce has apparently advised him to take the move, which I find a bit strange myself, surely he should be telling the lad to wait a couple of years and learn his trade at Sunderland? Seems he is forgetting who he is employed by to me! Sanchez was close in the summer till Udinese upped their asking price, but I have heard nothing more on that nor about any talks with Santos sorry.}

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18 Nov 2010 13:02:00
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"Sydney! {ed's note - the simple answer is yes, and yes, best I don't say any more than that though!}"

@One last question, does this player/players give you info on just Liverpool? Do you ever get any United rumours?

Sydney! {ed's note - they give me stories on a number of clubs, players talk to players at other clubs after all. Not all still play for Liverpool anyway, hence why I was able to find out that O'Neill was on his way when all the other sites were talking about who he was going to sign for Villa. I have to admit though, I am becoming more and more reluctant to give out rumours, as Rainfish will no doubt be able to testify, the amount of stick you take is unreal. Worse is that people start thinking you are just making stuff up to get people on to the site. It is impossible to get everything right, but any story you get wrong becomes a stick to beat you with forever!}

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18 Nov 2010 12:38:12
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Sydney! {ed's note - the only thing better is seeing some kid you used to kick a ball around with as kids come through.}

@A good friend of mine used to play against Leon Osman regularly as a kid, he always gives it: "He wasn't that good, i was better than him" etc, of course you were mate i would say LOL.

Ed do you know any players personally from your childhood? Have they ever given you some inside knowledge?

Sydney! {ed's note - the simple answer is yes, and yes, best I don't say any more than that though!}

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18 Nov 2010 12:29:31
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*Under normal circumstances I would agree but maybe the best thing would be to leave it until his hype has slowed down? Look at Rodwell. In the summer people were quoting almost £30million for the lad yet I don't see any price being anywhere close right now. Would there be any harm in leaving it another year? Maybe til 2012? If he wants to join us he will wait and with Bruce in charge at Sunderland he has the best of advisors.

StatoTK {ed's note - to be fair people were quoting what they thought Everton would want to let Rodwell go, not his actual transfer value. Everton would probably still want ludicrous money to sell him.}

@I see your point but if you snooze you lose in this game, Henderson has made it crystal clear that he will join United, Bruce has made it clear that he would sell to United by saying we will need to pay up to 25m for him, well you can knock 10m off of that for starters, just like you could knock 7-10m off of Rodwell's 30m valuation.

United need only one of these two players, i would say Everton need the money more but i would say Henderson would move to United today if he could. If we leave it a year then we may miss out, also the Glazers may close the cheque book by then. It seems they will let Fergie spend this year but i expect them to shut the cheque book after that and then we will have to rely on youth for a few years, which i am looking forward to personally.

There is nothing better than watching a 15 year old footy player develop into a first team player at your club, its very satisfying, and we have some very good talent in the academy.

Ed is there many feeling (in football) better than that?

Sydney! {ed's note - the only thing better is seeing some kid you used to kick a ball around with as kids come through.}

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18 Nov 2010 12:14:26
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We have to move early for Henderson because his price can only inflate.

Sydney!

*Under normal circumstances I would agree but maybe the best thing would be to leave it until his hype has slowed down? Look at Rodwell. In the summer people were quoting almost £30million for the lad yet I don't see any price being anywhere close right now. Would there be any harm in leaving it another year? Maybe til 2012? If he wants to join us he will wait and with Bruce in charge at Sunderland he has the best of advisors.

StatoTK {ed's note - to be fair people were quoting what they thought Everton would want to let Rodwell go, not his actual transfer value. Everton would probably still want ludicrous money to sell him.}

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18 Nov 2010 12:04:21
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I really hope the De Gea rumour is true as having watched all of the reported targets I rate him the highest.

Hit Beleive if agree

or Disb If not

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18 Nov 2010 12:01:42
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*So you see him more as a replacement for Carrick to keep the midfield ticking over? See, I wouldn't mind that so much aslong as we have the money to get our other targets. However I wouldn't choose Henderson over say Defour if we can only have 1 of them (but then i rate defour as the man to take hold of our midfield)

StatoTK

@Oh i only see him as a midfield battler, i do not see him replacing Scholes, i see him replacing Hargreaves and Carrick long term. Pogba & Henderson can replace Hargreaves & Carrick. I would want our marquee signing to be the Scholes replacement.

I would not be disappointed if Defour come in instead, he is a great player, i just feel Henderson could be better and more loyal long term. Defour is the finished article as Henderson is still learning but while we still have Carrick Henderson will have time to learn. If we were to get rid of Carrick tomorrow then we would need Defour to fill the void because he is ready, Henderson will be ready next year and Carrick can cover in the mean time while es learning his trade.

We have to move early for Henderson because his price can only inflate.

Sydney!

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18 Nov 2010 11:45:13
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@Hes full of energy just like Fletcher, he plays like Carrick although hes more active. If we could sign him for 15m he will turn out to be a huge bargain!

Trust me mate hes just what we need, although he will not be our game changer, i expect Sanchez to fill that void.

Sydney!

*So you see him more as a replacement for Carrick to keep the midfield ticking over? See, I wouldn't mind that so much aslong as we have the money to get our other targets. However I wouldn't choose Henderson over say Defour if we can only have 1 of them (but then i rate defour as the man to take hold of our midfield)

StatoTK

18 Nov 2010 11:42:52
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"Well he has a ‚Ǩ20m buy-out clause anyway so the most United would pay is around £16.6m. But offering £15m and loaning him back til the summer is deal done in my opinion, the only thing that can hamper the deal now is if Barcelona came in for him.

Fingers crossed! Although he will be replacing a United legend here and would move straight into the number one spot, if he went to Barcelona he would have to battle it out with Valdes. He wants the United move and Chelsea, Liverpool & City do not need him, Arsenal wouldn't have him as Wenger is far to stubborn and will try to prove Flappyhandski & Almunia are the way forward until Szczęsny is ready.

What is your prediction Ed, yes or no answer only, will he be at United next season? "

I think we are the most dominant in the market when it comes for a keeper i believe. Keepers do not ask unreal wages most of the time and wages has been the problem in getting players for us since we operate on a tight wage structure.

I don't think there is risk from barcelona or any other team to be honest. They are already struggling to pay their own players and they will sign fabregas first before sanctioning money for any other big signing. Also united is the only club that can guarentee a first team place for a keeper. Also athletio will ask much more to sell to their rivals in la liga anyway.

I think we can get him at 12-15mil

Any thoughts ed? {ed's note - I agree, he will almost certainly end up at United.}

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18 Nov 2010 11:24:48
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@I said a few days ago after someone quoted Afellay would cost between 8-12m that he would infact cost between 2-3m and i was right on the money, he signed for Barcelona for 2.5m.

Ed that is severely cheap, Barcelona must have some very good bargainers, they got Mash for pittance too didn't they?

Sydney! {ed's note - his contract was up in the summer mate, he was always going to be cheap.}

18 Nov 2010 11:18:50
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"Answer- I havent commented as I am waiting to see where the money is coming from and if re-borrowed what the security is. There is no point getting excited about it until we know. If it is borrowed but just at a lower interest rate the problem would not have gone away and I would still be concerned at the Glazers taking dividend from the club next year.

As to Berbaflop, sorry but we can't have a forward like that, we are playing with 10 men at the moment. He is not holding the ball up and when he does is slowing the team play down and he gives the ball away far too much and too easily for me. I said before I think he needs to go and I do think we need another striker. Yes midfield is the area of key concern but unless great kids start coming through I see us needing possibly 3 or 4 outfield players next summer.

Red Man"

Sorry if you got the tone of that post wrong. I meant to ask you what kind of money will they have got since this is a site where we "speculate". From where etc. As far as i know the markets are still very difficult to get loans against shareholding in companies and even more so difficult at united since we have the 500mil bond. So i highly doubt the glazers have got a refinancing at a better rate. I do think it is a loan but against some other asset and they have transferred that cash to RFJV via a loan which may then be converted to quity. That is what i think is likely.

Also as we have discussed for a long time there is a chance of the glazers taking dividends only in this financial year and not the next one but i think by next year you meant 2011.

I don't think anybody will ever agree on berbatov. I just meant to point out a lot of criticism he gets is unfair and other players being mentioned as a replacement or other kids which should be given a chance are every bit as lazy, lose the ball, slow the team down etc.

I see us coping well with 2 midfielders and a keeper brought in next season. I hope one of them is schweinsteiger and the other is defour/henderson. I think we can agree on this since your top target "sneijder" has just managed to use our name to get a huge contract. And schweinsteiger i think is the closest we can get to a scholes replacement. Good shot, good passer, good composure. Tall and strong which is important for the EPL. And we can realistically get him at 25mil i believe. Defour or henderson will sure us up in midfield as well and we also have the advantage of having players like macheda, welbeck, gibson to offer on loan or as a sale.

REDFAITH

18 Nov 2010 11:16:16
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Ed the David De Gea story has made the Manchester United website, i check it out at least three times a day and they never report on newspapers stories unless its during a transfer window or the stories have some foundation.

Do you believe this deal is almost completed? And how good would this deal be if finalised for 15m? {ed's note - 15m would be a steal for him mate.}

Well he has a ‚Ǩ20m buy-out clause anyway so the most United would pay is around £16.6m. But offering £15m and loaning him back til the summer is deal done in my opinion, the only thing that can hamper the deal now is if Barcelona came in for him.

Fingers crossed! Although he will be replacing a United legend here and would move straight into the number one spot, if he went to Barcelona he would have to battle it out with Valdes. He wants the United move and Chelsea, Liverpool & City do not need him, Arsenal wouldn't have him as Wenger is far to stubborn and will try to prove Flappyhandski & Almunia are the way forward until Szczęsny is ready.

What is your prediction Ed, yes or no answer only, will he be at United next season? {ed's note - he would walk straight into Barca's side, he is twice the keeper Valdes is. But I do believe he will be at United next season.}

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18 Nov 2010 11:04:47
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Ed the David De Gea story has made the Manchester United website, i check it out at least three times a day and they never report on newspapers stories unless its during a transfer window or the stories have some foundation.

Do you believe this deal is almost completed? And how good would this deal be if finalised for 15m? {ed's note - 15m would be a steal for him mate.}

18 Nov 2010 11:04:32
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@You cannot judge Henderson when he is playing with rubbish like Barry & Milner in the centre, Milner has gone from good to average in under a year, City have ruined him. In a settled United midfield he would shine just like he did against Chelsea.

I like Defour too but i would prefer an Englishman, we are at risk of going the same way Arsenal went and having NO Englishman in our squad. We have Rooney, Smalling, Cleverley, Welbeck & Hopefully Henderson for the future. I would love United to sign De Gea, Henderson & Sanchez, reports suggest United are in advanced stages and have agreed a 15m deal for De Gea, its just loose ends that need tying up now.

*Well im glad you're not the manager of UTD coz if you think someone like Henderson is the way forward for English football and Man Utd, we would all be in trouble. The guy is and DECENT player at best at the moment. May improve with time, but hardly a key signing for a top 4 team! Fed up of this hoohaa surrounding him. Typical english fans bigging up their own average players. Plus you say you're in fear of going the way of Arsenal yet you would love De Gea and Sanchez?!?! Make up your mind mate! De Gea and Sanchez are CLASS, Henderson is. . . . . . . well. . . . . . English.*

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18 Nov 2010 10:56:22
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EDITOR - Adebayor wants a loan move to Juventus because no one will agree to equal his current wages, Balotelli was seen having supper with AC Milan vice president Galliani in a Milan restaurant and has said this morning that he is not leaving in January and that he will be here up til June!

Santa Cruz wants out asap, Tevez wants to go home to Argentina & Yaya vows to one day return to Barcelona.

Milner & Barry are clearly not happy as there performances have been very mediocre, Ed no way City can keep up with the likes of United, Arsenal & Chelsea in the next couple of years. I can see Mancini getting sacked and them rebuilding from scratch again. What do you think is going on at City Ed?

{Editor's Note: There will always be issues with large squads - particularly where the entire squad is made up of players expecting first team football. I think Mancini's days may well be numbered.}

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18 Nov 2010 10:14:22
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If Henderson is not good enough to control the midfield as part of a midfield 2, how is he good enough to be at Utd? Utd play the same way with 2 in the middle.

Speaking of controlling a game, Defour was outstanding agaisnt Russia. Ed, did you get to watch his performance?

{Editor's Note: The difference is that Defour has had time to mature. However, I would take Defour id the chance arises.}

@You cannot judge Henderson when he is playing with rubbish like Barry & Milner in the centre, Milner has gone from good to average in under a year, City have ruined him. In a settled United midfield he would shine just like he did against Chelsea.

I like Defour too but i would prefer an Englishman, we are at risk of going the same way Arsenal went and having NO Englishman in our squad. We have Rooney, Smalling, Cleverley, Welbeck & Hopefully Henderson for the future. I would love United to sign De Gea, Henderson & Sanchez, reports suggest United are in advanced stages and have agreed a 15m deal for De Gea, its just loose ends that need tying up now.

I expect us to loan him back to Atletico til the summer too. Ed i hear United are going to replace Kuszczak with Lindegaard or McGregor too. Have you heard anything on these stories?

Sydney!

{Editor's Note: Nothing in particular - just speculation.}

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18 Nov 2010 03:01:17
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"Trust me mate Henderson would have played better in a better side, lets be honest Sunderland would have beat England tonight.

This maybe a blessing in disguise, put it this way, his price has not gone up 10m tonight like it could have done if he was a stand out player.

One year at United and this boy will be a quality player, if Brucey is quoting 25m then we can get him for 15-17m.

Sydney!"

If Henderson is not good enough to control the midfield as part of a midfield 2, how is he good enough to be at Utd? Utd play the same way with 2 in the middle.

Speaking of controlling a game, Defour was outstanding agaisnt Russia. Ed, did you get to watch his performance?

{Editor's Note: The difference is that Defour has had time to mature. However, I would take Defour id the chance arises.}

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18 Nov 2010 01:47:12
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@Trust me mate Henderson would have played better in a better side, lets be honest Sunderland would have beat England tonight.

This maybe a blessing in disguise, put it this way, his price has not gone up 10m tonight like it could have done if he was a stand out player.

One year at United and this boy will be a quality player, if Brucey is quoting 25m then we can get him for 15-17m.

Sydney!


*So where would you play him Sydney? What sort of player do you see him being for us. I think my concern is that from what Ive seen of him so far, I don't see him being a match winner or a game changer. .which is more or less what we need.

StatoTK

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18 Nov 2010 00:17:24
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Ed i have heard from somebody who was close to Gerrard before he was sent for a scan and overheard Gerrard's mini tantrum, apparently Gerrard's exact words were "This is a f* king bad one" he is no doctor but he knows his hammy better than anyone.

By his expression is this a three week layoff or worse? {ed's note - won't know for sure until the scan, but if it is bad it will be worse than 3 weeks!}

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