Manchester United Rumours Archive August 19 2013

19 Aug 2013 15:50:58
This Fabregas rumour has come from an Arsenal
forum. Barca have sold Cesc to Man United for
38 mill it will be released to press on Friday money
already used to buy Luiz from chelsea .Maserahno
moving to Arsenal for 7mill

Love the optimism but think you need to lay off the disco biscuits Bfro.

I would love this to be true, but do u honestly think that this would not be leeked more and then someone like tv would be all over it there no way they would not know so surly if was some truth in it then they would not wait a week for it tp be released to public

Yeah and when Rm buy Bale we will get Ronaldo. Roll on contraeo next . This Fifa we playing?

Id would love to believe this to be true but I don't.

I'm sorry to say but this is total rubbish. It's from some Arsenal muppets who are trying to move attention away from their own failings in the transfer window. It's not even wishful thinking.

Mashcerano to Arsenal sounds plausable. Bit more than 7mill surely tho?

At that price we'd do a lot worse signing him for Utd

The only way this would be possible is if Roo goes to Chelx, which would be nice. Then we can see Roo stand alone there.

Absolute rubbish, none of those will happen

Melwing28

Absolute horse s#it! We will be playing this season with the same weak midfield as last and the one before etc. let's all pray Carrick doesn't get injured or have a bad season or we will be in serious trouble! The big four is now the big six and we aren't guaranteed a top four finish especially as the other clubs have invested heavily. Next Monday might be a wake-up call against Chelski. I hope I am very wrong.

Born a Red Devil

Born a Red Devil,
I completely agree with your opinion that if Carrick gets injured we will be in serious trouble. And I just can't imagine what the hell will happen if carrick and RVP get injured at the same time. No creativity without those two.

Born a Red Devil
The same midfield which form the team that won the league last season got pipped last kick of season year before, nobody is guaranteed anything but you can rest assured that our squad are up for it big time and the pundits and journalist are assisting us when they continue to right us off only makes us more determined.
Dylan

The way things are going, the only signing we're likely to make is the Vietnamese midfielder, Ngo Wan. Of course, he may get a better off from Arsenal.

With RVP we're aways guaranteeed top 4. If he can drag that shower of poo of the Arsenal 2011 team into the CL single handedly, then he can do it for us as well ;)
Besides, all we need is one more central midfielder (a top class one) and we'll be sorted.

Dan

DM has said many times that he wants to strengthen midfield. so far we have only bid for fabregas and apparently fellaini in that position, even Thiago said there was no talks or bids from us yet people seem to insist that we did. I for one take great hope in the fact that at long last we are being linked with top midfielders.both fellaini and fabregas offer different thing which we are missing and would add quality. You also think next monday night could be a wake up call? I find your lack of faith disturbing

Dylan, you've to keep improving the team every season. otherwise you just go backwards when everyone else does.

simzdav, just remember how Chelsea gave us a good seeing to in the fa cup last season and they've strengthened since then.

Do you really think that Barca would sell Fabregas to us after that performance at the weekend.
Get real, it ain't happening. The major signing is Fellaini.

Simmo

19 Aug 2013 13:11:38
The everton community is in an aproar over this as rm publicly stated that the pair was valued at 50m, 20 for Baines and 30 for felli. Whether you lot agree or not that was the price that everton set and to offer nearly half of that is just ridiculous.

If that's the case - Everton will have Fellaini and Baines in their team for the rest of their careers - thanks but no thanks

50 million?! That is the joke. If Fellaini is worth 30 what is Rooney worth? RM is smoking crack if he thinks Everton will get that. They'll hassle for a move & We'll get them for 35 max.

£50m? That is more ridiculous than £25m to be honest with you. £30m should be their value, £12m for Baines £18m for the big wig.

Ozwald

Fellaini & Baines are worth £20m-£22m and £15m-£17m respectively.

They don't want to lose two of their star performers, what do you expect? Its the same reason Andy Carrol was sold for £35 million by Newcastle. They had no intention of selling their star performer so put a ridiculous price tag on him. They just got lucky that Liverpool were desperate enough to pay the £35 million for him.

The Evertob statement does not mention the players by name, is it possible one of the players was Barkley, and that is why the amount was so low? {Ed004's Note - Id love it to be Barkley and Baines}

That's 35 - 39 then not 28

Why should Everton value them at £30m? They'll value them at whatever they want. Or do Utd dictate that too as they do most anything else? We'll value them at their true worth, Baines £18, Fellaini £23m.

I can understand why Everton are upset tbh! When I read it on tv sport I wasn't one bit surprised they rejected it.

So we go straight in with a £35m/£39m bid and it gets rejected.

Then what?

Everton fan hear why offer that much baines is best left back in the league he created more chances than anyone at peak of his career today's market 20m and fellaini his contract is till 2016 so no problems there unlike Rooney if you don't sell this season his value drops and then walks at end of contract he ain't happy and don't blame him he is the most important player you have that's why value of fellaini is up near 25-30m why not keep hold next year probably be worth more with World Cup as well by the way keep your hands of Barkley and again in a year or 2 remember the name George Green

I agree with the comments that with them not been mentioned one of the two players could easily be Barkley. But ed if it was Barkley and baines would you not expect 28m to be enough.

I think if Barkley was one of the two it would be Barkley and fellani as it looks like DM is to take another risk keeping evra

19JackC94

I reckon the money we offered was far too much.I think desparation has sunk in for us to even think of going for Feilaini.he is not worth 25m or even near it, I wouldn't even give 8m for him, he's not world class and he's not going to set the world a light or have real or bayern quaking in there boots now is he!if he is what the future of utd is settling for, i'd be extremly worried!Baines on the other hand I'd give 15-18m for him.

They'll want to be with moyes and give them a week and both will hand in transfer requests.

villalad83

I think the fee will end up at 35m with add ons up to 42m Everton know they have two top players and we know they want United so think its going to happen next week to give Everton time to replace them. Katef

Every player, at every club, has a price at which they would sell.

Of course Everton are trying to raise the price as much as possible and why not?

But ultimately if United want the players, and they want to come to United it will happen.

If they really want to come hand in a transfer request.

I think everton fans are getting their knickers in a twist before actually stopping and thinking as to why that was our opening offer, most reasons which have been covered by syd, if we offered 35-40m as a 1st offer everton would be laughing, no matter what they say there's no way they are worth more than 40m combined, there's plenty of other options if they do want more however there's no way kenwright would reject 40m imo.

50mil are they mad, why are we even going for these players, fellaini looked totally lost playing the passing game at Norwich on Saturday. while baines is better than evra, I don't think he is that good.

It's not ridiculous mate, just business, get over it!

£50 mil for both is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen I would be surprised if we went over £35 and that would be good money for Everton.

They can jump off a bridge for all I care they are not worth what rm is saying and he is talking absolute rubbish. I would not go higher than 34/35 mill for both and if we don't get it done keep the money and spend it on draxler verrati next summer and go with what we have for this year.

To the no name post slagging Fellaini you know nothing about football, Baines is a very good left back but is nearly 29 anything over 15m is a lot even for maybe the best left back in the country. Fellaini on the other hand is 25m+ all day long Everton shelled out 15m for him and he is much better now and I bet if you asked Real or Bayern or any other teams midfield if they gave an honest answer about going up against the big fella they would say they would rather not he is big strong puts a foot in and the head and elbow this is not a game of tickling you know he is just what we need some one to rough things up and other teams will hate playing him that is for sure. Katef

Baines signed for 5m. Fellaini 15m. 28m offered. Another way to look at it is perhaps if everton had shown some ambition this summer with their signings instead of signing half of wigan then these lads might not be so easy to prise away.

Have to feel for Everton, they won't have time to replace them. I'd like us to make new signings but Baines and Fellaini aren't my first choice. I'd rather have Barkley for a start.

Dan

I didn't realise a manc pound was worth double a scouse pound? £40m minimum, £25m Fellaini £15m Baines.
1 Evertonian is worth a million manc's

Man UTD knew that Everton value the pair at 40 Mil. UTd have a choice, pay 40 mil or look else where.
I don't like paying 1.35 for a bottle of coke at my local shop, so I don't buy it. Or should I go in and offer them 65p?

Barkley. Baines. Rooney. Scousers taking over. How about bringing through some of your own youth. oh no moyes won't do that will you dithering dave. {Ed004's Note - There are tonnes of English players in our squad. It's not as if you made Baines as you bought him from Everon. What would you call Welbeck and Cleverley how about Gibson he's currently one of your best players and he struggled to get a game here}

Cleverley and Welbeck are both rubbish. Wouldn't get near the Everton squad. Same as Carrick he's a total crab too, can only pass sideways and backwards. My dog could have a high pass completion passing 2 yards and she has arthritis. Guess that's why moyes is coveting Fellaini because he knows he's lacking real quality.

Everton say 50 million, we offer 28million. Compromise price 24 million on Fellaini and 15 million on Baines = 39 million, call it 40 million we meet them half way. They double their original outlay, we get 2 of the 3 players we need. Maybe we should offer them 32 million and Cleverley or Anderson there choice. I doubt they would want either of our cast off though as Martinez want 1 or 2 of his Wigan old boys, just like DM wants a couple of his old boys.
Mik

I'm not a massive fan but Fellani is better than what we have and would get in the starting eleven. The reason why City, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca and Bayern etc didn't bid was because they are all ok in that department. We simply aren't! If we got Fellani plus a world class centre midfielder then you'd all be happy! Have patience! It
Was interesting to see Mata not get in the first 11 yesterday. Can't see them selling him but food for thought if that's Chelsea's first 11 (atm). Chelsea are well stocked in MF but need a forward. We need a midfielder. Would
People swap accept Rooney for Mata.
Forget the price etc. I'm interested in would people be happy with us getting Mata but they get Rooney?

Adz

Wasnt Fellanis buy out £23 million? No takers at that so how is he worth more? Guys on MUTV talking a lot of sense. Baines would have no resale value also if signs 4 year deal. I think what was offered was fair is not a little high!
Mac

The reason EFC fans are annoyed is not just the value attributed for the best performing left back in Europe and Fellani, but is the way that after years of chastising others for the way they've approached Everton for players. Moyes (we all know it's not him that controls the bid, but it's hard to see the wood through the trees when there's an obvious person to blame) has just gone and done exactly the same.

In terms of Martinez raiding Wigan. he bought one Wigan player by meeting the buy out clause (Kone), Alcaraz was without a club, and Joel was from Spain. So even though EFC bought player(s) from his old club, they did it the way it's meant to be done, not by being insulting and trying to unsettle players.

Katef, I think you have a very narrow mind on Feilaini, and I feel you should question your own footballing expertise because Feilaini maybe strong, but the guy his very sloppy in possession of the ball.he is not the type of player whom is going to win the ball and play technical football!he is not a great tackler either, fouls and gives away more free kicks because of his awkwardness.he is not exactly quick either, carrick is quicker and he's slow.I realy don't think Fellaini is the type of player utd need.he is a target man whom wins headers and bundles people over with elbows.barca, real, bayern wouldn't be scared of him they would just play the ball around him.the only threat Feilaini has is in the air.hes not worth a bid in my eyes leave him where he is!Sure we might as well buy Andy Carroll and put him in midfield!i am sorry but this is my opinion and I'm afraid we are looking disparate,

And don't forget, Feilaini or baines never played or has any experience in the champions league.

Villalad, there probably the only two players that do want to come to Moyes, it's quite sad to be honest!

Is this the same fellaini that destroyed us last season we could not play against him that was a fact and if you fans think cleverly carrick or fletcher are better than fellaini your naive if fellaini was ours we would not sell for that price yes he is different but in a good way have you seen his stats how much ground he covers and how many times he wins the ball back personally think he is the toughest midfielder in the game and he can play different roles and score goals

ED 04 Baines was bought from the Everton nursery club Wigan by DM .and for your info 6 Everton under 20' s were in the latest squad . {Ed004's Note - I made a mistake I meant Wigan just typing quickly. That does not impress me at all as united could pick any 6 from their academy and throw them on the bench it does not show how good they are. 3 players who came through the united academy started the game against very strong opposition away from home in which we won 4-1 that sounds a bit better}

19 Aug 2013 11:34:24
Rumour has it on twitter, Ronaldo handed in a transfer request prior to the betis game.

FZZ

An ITK says United will pay 260k p/w for 3 years we want to pay 50m with add ons over 3 years but Real want 70m cash up front.

I think he is worth that if anyone is worth that ludicrous sum of money

Dan Walker (followed by Rio) who hosts Football Focus said two days ago:

"4 different trusted individuals have all mentioned Ronaldo to #MUFC in the last 24 hrs. Interesting. very interesting!"

He also went on to say that his followers would know that he hardly ever tweets 'rumour guff' but did with this because it's a 'biggy' and 'sourced and interest to many'.

Just thought i'd share this with you guys.

Ozwald

19 Aug 2013 14:48:55
If there is a genuine opportunity to sign Ronaldo just pay

He didn look happy or bothered if they lost that game a bit like the season before he left utd in the league he seem a unhappy for some reason I got a weird feeling that a deal maybe struck like 20 to 30 mil plus rooney or 60 mil quid I think pepe off as well because real want a kiddie from real sociedad. so I think the portuguese player are all going to leave this season. I completely understand why he is unhappy he has not won much he is a player who needs to be in a club winning cups and leagues

19 Aug 2013 08:39:17
Everton have confirmed that they have rejected a £28million bid from Manchester United for Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines.
Elmo,

If this is true we may be having a very quiet window!

When they say ' Everton have confirmed. '

Where's the proof of this confirmation statement?

Im 50/50 on this bid report. We can't be THAT dumb to bid in such a way for 2 players.

Eduardo

IMO that bid is a bit low for two of Everton's key players.
It's still early in the day, so I fully expect there to be more movement on this today, probably in the shape of an improved bid.
Personally I think getting some mid-field muscle (Fellaini) in before the Chelsea game could be key to the season, even this early on (yes I know it's still August).

'Midfield muscle'.We are so boring to watch now.Get some quick, skillfull and quality players in first.After talk of Cesc and Thiago etc if all we get is Fellaini I will not be a happy chappie.

So as predicted by many on here our extensive transfer activity comes down to bidding on these 2. Things must be bad!

I will get shot down but hey-ho, other top European clubs have improved their squads extensively, we haven't and have need to for the last 2 years.

Like many I watched the Swansea game, you can say Swansea are a good footballing side and make excuses but we weren't that brilliant with basically a first XI playing. I don't think we are going to be frightening Barca, RM, Munich etc in the CL.

If everyone is happy with 3rd in the league & champions league 1/4 finals fine I will say no more. I just thought we professed to being the best in the world!

Dave

Well said dave, moyes said he was only.looking at world class players if he think that they world class then he wrong big time!!

I think we are being very shrewd here, Everton want James McCarthy, but can't buy until they sell.

So, everyone dances round until someone blinks.

Think us lucky that Daniel Levy isn't involved.YET!

Dave, I for one would take 3rd in Moyes' first season. I think that would be a great achievement, along with CL 1/4 finals.

You need to get realistic, we've just had the best manager ever, Moyes can't attract the Cesc's of this world, rather than moan about it just accept that we are going to be weaker for a couple of seasons while the new manager builds up his reputation, soimething he can't do without the help of the fans.

Get realistic.

Wazza

Nowhere does it actually mention the names of the two players. Sly spurts are just guessing to who they were. For all we now one of the players could e Barkley.
Jase

Well Wazza, perhaps we should have selected a different manager who could attract the "big names". If you believe such achievements are acceptable then perhaps you support the wrong club.

Dave

Wazza have a look mate fergie got a lot of players yes but do.u think he never missed a player if u do your wrong, and who ever is in charge they are in charge of one of the biggest clubs ever moyes might not have the pull on players but everytime a player has signed in past they go on to say how when they see the club how it run the set up that what makes them want to come the club , man u are not a 3rd place side man u is about winning even at the lowest times the club has been built on winning, yes fergieis the biggest name in fpotball.but in hos own words no one is bigger than the club fact the side moyes has with one or 2 world class siging will take on anyone

Arsenal had a 10m bid rejected for cabate why don't we put a bid in he's class?

I think 23 million for Fellaini and 18 million for Cabaye would make us less like a polo mint - hole in the centre etc and more like an all round powerful team.
Mik