Manchester United Rumours Archive September 19 2011
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19 Sep 2011 22:33:28
If united win the league and do well
In champions league this is what iv been tild will happen in the summer
Out
Carrick 10m
Berbatov 15m (anzhi)
Park 5m
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Modric or Mountiniho
Gago 10m
A young striker in the mould of berba 12m {Ed007's Note - So what happens if they don't do well in the CL? Not buy anyone??}
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Who told you that - your mate down the pub?
Marky Mark
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Nah, that guy who swears he safs great Grandad who lives in the bushes next to the duck pond in Glasgow who gives you united tips if you feed him Hovis Best of Both...also goes by the name Ed007 ;)
JWalk {Ed007's Note - That's just uncalled for!! It's 002's bush I live in ;-)
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Well this is bullsheizer.
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Berbas is out of contract next year
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A striker in mould of berb!
We have the real Tussard wax model sat on the bench don't need to replace it just need rid
KingE
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If you had just said this is what I would like United to do next summer then people wouldn't jump on your back like they have. Saying you have a source/have been told by someone is just stupid as that info isn't widely available.
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Carrick out for £10 million? I'd say more like £4 million!
Berbatov out for £15 million? I'd snatch their hand off for that price for him!
Park won't go nowhere. He hasn't long been signed a new deal at United.
Modric won't come. He has his heart set on a move to Chelsea. Spurs also turned a last minute £40 million bid from Chelsea on deadline day. So, if SAF does want him... he'll have to cough up!
Gago... why? we don't need him.
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Berba for £15m? His contract runs out in the summer so he's a free agent. That basically screws up that theory then
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19 Sep 2011 22:24:08
Who does everybody think our defence will be tomorrow, with Smalling, Vida and Ferdy (whats going on with him, is he out?) i can see some of the youth being tried! but whom? I think Pogba will be on the bench ready to come on at some point, i would have him start but i dont have Sir at the start of my name.......yet.
(sir)JWalk
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Rio has calf injury was close to being in squad sunday
Pardoe
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Cheers pardoe, goes without saying that well have a young defence, will be interesting to see how our young lads will be able to cope with very bitter rival fans hurling abuse ;0
JWalk
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What about Carrick & Fletcher at CB as they both need games?
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I dont think fletch will start after playing on sunday as well.
JWalk
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Tom Thorpe is to make his debut at centre back and Valencia will again play at right back,where he will be used untill Smalling and Raffael are fit again,Evra is to be rested and will be replaced by Fabio.
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19 Sep 2011 19:38:26
I thought the Mirror said we were being bought by Qatari's today. Is this a quarterly thing. I thought they were buying us on June 30th. I suppose the Mirror will run the story again in December.
So what is it to be Flotation or the Qatari's
Mike the Moston Red
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Glazers decided not to float yet as market is volatile even though they have been approved to float club.
Also you said Mirror they tend to print alot of bull!!
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19 Sep 2011 18:03:54
ed do you think we will sign snijder in januray {Ed004's Note - No}
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We wont buy big in january unless we are desperate. by next summer sneijder will be 28 so unless his fee has fallen then we wont spend that kind of money on him. someone like goetze who will be 20 next summer and after this season will have experience in the champions league
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He would be a great buy gotze would do well and sir Alex Ferguson would get the best out of him
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No.
SAF has the squad to win the Premier League again without Sneijder.
SAF wanted Sneijder to help us topple Barcelona in the champions league. But, Sneijder has featured in the champions league for Inter Milan now so if we did buy him in January he would only play in Premier League. He wouldn't be allowed to play European games because he would be cup-tied.
I can't see SAF spending £35 million on a player he doesn't really need just to help United win the league again which they're capable of doing so with the squad they already have.
Welbeck, Vidic, Hernandez and Cleverley I believe will all be back for the Liverpool game which is in 3 league games time.
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19 Sep 2011 16:17:49
I think Evra has lost his touch,he is no-where near where he was 2 seasons ago.
Rafael is very good right back no doubt about that,..but Fabio can also be a good right back,he has played as a right back last season and did very well...
My question is,..can Fabio take over from Evra and be a regular left back in the year`s time or do we have to look for someone for that spot..some names will be thrown one of them is Izaguirre.!
Anyone.?
DC_9
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I think that Rafael is a good right back. I also think that Fabio is a good right back. But who's a better right back?
There's only one way to find out ...
FIGHT!!!!
Danny Pughnited
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Evra was back to his best against Chelsea let's hope he keeps it up!
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Evra was okay apart from the two occasions Ramires slipped him and had two good chances against De Gea with Evra in no mans land. Can't wait for Vidic to return. I hope it's this Saturday.
Sydney!
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Okay i can understand people's frustration at Carrick 'loosing his touch' but Evra?!
No no, i still believe many teams fear old Patrice.. He's so experienced and he's got such a fighting spirit on or off the ball! Fans should be happy we still have him.
Ozwald {Ed004's Note - But he is loosing his legs every season now and that will cost us. I think a replacement needs to be bought this summer. Bale would be the expensive one or Izaguirre}
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Obviously you did not watch yesterdays game, as Evra was superb, his best game this season.
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No way we could sign bale. Definitely Barca will get him.
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How about evans as a left back? he wouldnt have as much defensive responsibility and he is able to pick a pass
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Evra's qualities are his pace and attacking support. Watch how many times he takes the ball down the left hand side. If you can think of many better than Evra then feel free to list. He's as good as any other in the Prem and up their with the best in Europe.
As for the person saying Evans as left back, some Utd fans baffle me. Also, why do we need to buy a left back? Fabio looks a great prospect.
Rant over.
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Evra is getting older. Sure, i've seen him make some bad defensive mistakes. But, Evra is easily one of the best leaders on the team. Just look at his relationship with Young, Park, and others. He has a bright and welcoming attitudes. Saying that, it might be his last year as a starter but still play.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every time you yo-yos mumble nonsense about Evra being past it, I laugh. I laugh because of how remarkably obvious it is that none of you knows a thing about football.
Next time you feel like mimicking some popular tripe you've heard or *gasp* read, instead of echoing the thought with a vacuous look on your faces, do a little research yourself on Evra's statistics.
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I think whenever we play fabio we struggle defensively. He's to lightweight
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I thought Evra had a good game against Chelsea but on the whole I do agree that he isn't up there as much as he was 2 seasons ago.
Fabio is not a bad player. But he's only young still and I don't think he could yet read the game as well as Evra. Evra has a few years more experience over Fabio.
If Evra left in January, I would look for another Left Back that would be our number one Left Back. There isn't many of them around these days although Aly Cissokho and Fabio Coentrao do stick out for me. Coentrao just recently moved to Real Madrid though so we couldn't even bid for him.
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19 Sep 2011 15:16:00
If RM continue to play like this, days are not far when they will be the most hated club in Europe, maybe then players wont go there and we might have chance to bring in talented players.
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19 Sep 2011 15:04:23
SSN reporting that real have agreed a E55 mill deal for neymar , that a lot of cash for a 19 year old
jred
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19 Sep 2011 14:05:19
anyone think evans might be better in midfield?
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You pal are a jackass Evans has no huge spark same as carrick in the long run these players will let us down I can see it miles away in fact I can see it from ireland ...... Caino
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NO!
MDJ
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Are you off your head!! enough said.
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It's not too mad an idea, his long range passing has been pretty great this season. But the pace of the PL would kill him. He's slow enough on his feet for a defender, but in midfield he'd be slaughtered.
If any Serie A clubs are watching though, he'd make a pretty decent deeplying playmaker for you. We'll take £20 million in cash or a large bag of cashew nuts, your choice.
Danny Pughnited
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Daftest thing ive ever heard! hahahhhaa
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Yes, in somebody elses midfield.
Sydney ;)
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Evans is average at best, and that's in any position...hopefully by playing him regularly now we can at least get a decent cash sum for him next summer...
we have a great squad but I hate it when the likes of carrick and evans get drafted in as they immediately pull down the overall quality of our play, would rather gamble on youngsters (e.g. pogba for carrick) at least then they get the chance to develop and we could get the likes of carrick off the wage bill {Ed004's Note - You need some experience in the dressing room, and Carrick does a good job when he plays}
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Ed004, OK so I agree experience is important, and we have lost a lot recently, so if carrick goes next summer we will definitely need to bring in some experience
(preferrably Modric + one other!)
However, I cant agree that Carrick does a good job for us on the pitch anymore. I havent seen it for a long time (apart from the Chelsea match last year). Whenever he features our play seems slower, more lethargic, less cutting-edge etc. I find it frustrating tbh when he is on the team sheet
If we could give Pogba some experience in the Carling cup and as a sub I would prefer to see the likes of him getting a chance before Carrick towards the end of the season, if he proves himself oviously - if only in terms of providing that little extra cutting-edge
anyway, as you can tell I'm no Carrick fan :
HP
(sorry forgot to sign the first time)
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Did you say midfield or Minefield I know which one I would prefer to see him in. RAINFISHTROMBONE
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What was that about backing players in the red shirt?
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I thought he played well yesterday, but still wouldn't have him anywhere near mid field!
Percy
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What the fudge evans plays well every1 slates him u knw wat I'm sick of people thinkin they know better then alex ferguson if SAF thinks evans is good enough to play I support him an wish him all the best I guess since berbatov not playing fickle fake united "fans" need someone else to criticise it makes me sick
Dick van dyke
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Where is mid field? it seems like it should be somewhere in the american mid_west. Perhaps if he is going there we could get an extra ticket and send gibson as well.
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Personally I would like to see Evans in the changing rooms where he belongs. He is the weak link.....always has been always will be.
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You'd like to see him in the changing room. That's a bit saucy isn't it. Pre or post shower?
Danny Pughnited
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You lot are clueless! Mr J Evans
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Sell him. We should have bought Simon Kjaer in stead.
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19 Sep 2011 13:55:57
Hi ed, syd any idea what is happening with ravel Morrison. He has not been involved with academy, reserves and not involved tomorrow against Leeds. Seems to of disappear off the radar.
Neil
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He's injured.
Sydney!
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Is it a bad injury ?? how long his he expected to be out
oxred
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Also isint he tagged? i heard he was tagged and if he is he has 2 be home by 7pm or his tag will go off maybe the eds or syd knows
THE HEMMINATOR {Ed001's Note - good point, I forgot that was one of the conditions of his last court case, but they normally make exceptions for work.}
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19 Sep 2011 13:55:01
Personally i would love to see Edison Cavani at united he has a lot of potential and is already one of the most wanted player's in europe another hat trick v AC yesterday looked very good against City last week has all the assets needed to become a world class striker what do you guys think of him?
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I havent seen much of him tbh but from what I have seen he seems quality, also, talksport's "european correspondent" (not the best source I know but at least he has watched him regularly) mentioned him in the same breath as rooney and messi this afternoon - suggesting that in terms of an out-and-out no. 9 (as opposed to a more creative no. 10 role like the other 2) he is among the best out there!
I for one am looking forward to seeing more of him play this year, and fingers crossed SAF or one of his spies do the same!
HP {Ed004's Note - He is a brilliant player}
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19 Sep 2011 11:47:30
Jamie Redknapp says on SSN that United want Modric. He obviously talks to daddy. So now Chelsea have signed Meireles & Mata who likes to come inside, will Chelsea still want Modric? Will Levy stop him from leaving next summer too if Modric wants out?
Sydney!
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You read into things way to much mate.
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Lampard will be out the team,They will see Modric as the ideal replacement.
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With the knowledge that Chelsea & United wanted Modric and the possibility of Chelsea no longer wanting him, you have to see that there is always a chance of him coming here, especially seems we haven't filled the position yet. Lampard could go next year, but can Chelsea go on another spending spree next summer too? Wouldn't they pushing their luck with these FFP rulings? Just a thought.
Sydney!
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Even if chelsea don't want him he doesn't want us, he made that clear in the summer and i don't want players here if were not their first choice to play for. besides we won't spend the money required to get him, i'd rather go for Mouthinho anyway now.
Shappy
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Shappy it's not that he doesn't want us, Its juat that chelsea were to only team to make an official offer. I know he said he wanted to stay in london but if United made a bid and it was accepted. do you still think modric will reject it? Also i think redknapp will prefer to sell modric to man utd bcos of the last window and with fergie respecting redknapps stance on modric. TRUMORS
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Sounds like a bit of a long shot to me this....having said that, I'll be praying this theory has some accuracy as in my opinion Modric is the one player who would elevate Utd's play over and above anyone else we have been linked with
he's averaging almost a pass per minute in the prem at the moment, just one of many stats that illustrate his dominance of creative play in the middle of the park...which just happens to be what we need!
and before anyone mentions the fact he doesnt score goals, 1 - Utd arent lacking goalscorers with Rooney, Hernandez, Young and Nani all firing, and 2 - Modric does have the ability to score golas anyway...just look at the goals he has managed for Spurs (mostly screamers) and tell me he isnt likely to score 10+ in Utd's team, with more opportunities to go forward
anyway as you can tell I'm a fan of Modric, so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed until next summer : )
HP
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Even if he scored none, the amount of goals he would create would be startling. But I do agree, he would score around 10 goals easily in this United team.
Sydney!
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19 Sep 2011 11:21:46
What is the latest on the Qatar rumours?
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Err the latest is ...... rumours!
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19 Sep 2011 10:46:25
I think United should buy a young and good defender in Jan and let Jones play in mid. I know he said he prefers defense but now he is so much confident on ball while going forward. It would be a waste of great talent IMO if he doesnt play in mid more often.
SHAITAN
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Or with Vidic ferdinand and Rafael back from injury along with Smalling Evans Fabio and Evra we could buy no one and just play Jines there.
Shappy
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*Jones* obviously. lol
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Ferdinand has a couple of years left on him, Evans is no good, Evra is OK at the moment so we should be looking at one more defender.
SHAITAN
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Jones seems to have a similar style of play to the legendary Franz Beckenbauer, both confident on the ball and can bring it out of defence.
In defence of Evans at least he has been paying attention to Paul Scholes coaching as his passing is improving(and very similarly styled!)
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19 Sep 2011 10:19:42
me and the wife Nead were at Old Trafford yday&spotted load of men with turbans on being escorted by MUFC security. Qatari delegates mayb or mayb i was wrote?lol
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Those could have been Indian Sikhs, they wear turbans and you can always spot some next to the united dugout at OT. But they wont be escorted by MUFC security for sure.
SHAITAN
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I saw 1 of the glazers at ot yesterday, how often does he go to games! so the glazers are defo in manchester at the moment
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BS-BS-more BS
JWalk
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I saw the YETI at old trafford yesterday. Maybe him & the LITTLE GREEN MEN are goiong to buy utd.
Ilove Utd LOL.
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I will know if this is a lie or not.
Mate who posted this sighting, what type of cars did they arrive in?
Adam
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He arrived in a black saloon car possibly an audi but couldnt see cos of the crowds, to all u non believers maybe u should try going to ot some time! i go every week and every week i stand at the back entrance before the game. this is 100% true, im not a liar or a wum just a match going utd fan unlike most on here
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19 Sep 2011 09:37:50
Did anyone see the mistake made by Reina for Tottenham's third goal? If that was De Gea they (media, blue noses, scousers etc) would have been all over it like a tramp on a bag of chips!!
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Totally agree with you
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Yeah but the press wants to knock the top teams and their players as it sells more papers then knocking players from teams nobody cares about.
Shappy {Ed001's Note - apart from Shappy having a point, if Liverpool were top of the table it would have been in the news. I think a lot more of it comes down to how Reina conducts himself, he is well liked by people, so there are no press desperate to jump on him. He is also not a recent huge money signing like De Gea and so has had time to prove himself.}
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Yh but lets be honest reina has proven to be one of the leagues best keepers and de gea is new so tht is why they are down on him like a sack of s*it to try and make something bad of man utd's amazing season
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19 Sep 2011 06:32:25
although we played well that midfield has to be strenghtened carrick is a no no and in defence evans just does not have the authority of a vidic this was a great result against a top team but we can do a lot better title20 on its way
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Have to agree with this, Carrick is brutal not good enough and never will be same goes for Evans, I think righ back could be a proble for us as Smalling is a centre back not a right back but is doing ok, Rafel seems injury prone not is not the bset defender inthe world. Fletcher is a shadow of himself hopefully things will get better for him as he was only back. still say we shouold have signed a scjnyder(sorry for the spelling) type player as our 2 midfielders were bad yesterday. Have to say Jones is a class player, hopefully we can keep this run going and get title no 20 in the bag
Damian M
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