Manchester United Rumours Archive July 01 2012

01 Jul 2012 20:58:51
guys..breaking news!

ManUtd are ready to pay 31 million euro for J.Muntinho

Deal to be held within this week

(arsalan)

How can u no this?

Source?

Doubt it, wheres your source

You just read that from the gossip section on the United website..

Ozwald

Would be a great addition to the squad, alot cheaper than the price quoted for modric, if we cant muntinho, rodrigues and one of m'vila or martinez to go along with the captures of kagawa & powell then that would be a great set of transfers


UNITEDFORLIFE75

SOurces ?

Hope so much prefer him to modric we need a cm do badly.

Well I will bite, If this is true then great, for me he really stood out at the euros.

One can only hope ...

Halesini

01 Jul 2012 19:10:24
man utd will sign baines and pablo armero

Who's he like?

Two left backs????????
seems a bit unrealistic

Pablo who?


Parks.

Armero is also a left back, so I highly doubt both of them. One of them seems certain.

01 Jul 2012 10:49:30
does anyone have any news on Pogba??

according to some press sources he was meant to be in Juv today to sign contracts etc as his contract with us ran out yesterday.....

is this still true given what his agent said about van persie going to italy last week....

would love him to stay and fight for his place in the team..... if he were to sign a new 4-5 year contract with us i am sure he would become a fantastic player for us...

oxred

Most people seem to think he's a dead cert to leave....me personally, I'm holding onto the very slight chance that he will stay (as nothing as been officially announced yet) as I know he will be a great loss for compensation only

Gav

Gav

I'm with you mate, kinda thought it would be first thing we heard today, I actually believe the kid doesn't know what he wants, especially after what Raiola said about Italian football and the problems Italian football have!

I'm holding on to that slight chance with you mate!

Ports

I dont think he's going i really don't......

the way i look at it is if he was a dead cert going then he would have no reason whatsoever to say that he was going to move on once his contract ended.

pogba has never officially confirmed that he's going, and if memory serves me right the last official statement he gave was bout 6 months ago stating he loved the club and wanted to fight for his place blah blah blah.....the guy seems really really happy at old trafford and i for one believe his agent has just been 'whoring' the guy about to generate interest to try and force united into offering better terms / conditions etc etc.........

Hopefully im right

Robbo

Showed the Aldershot game on mutv yesterday he looked so comfortable when he came on would be sad to lose him especially under the circumstances
Let's hope he can persuade his agent to do the deal with us
Tiger2

I've believed so many different things about Pogba's situation throughout the season that I've just stopped trying to second-guess it now. Finger's crossed then Ports/Oxred, it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings!

Of course if he does go then we will just move on

Gav

Make that 3 of us. As unlikely as it is that he will stay, he would be a terrible loss.

TK-Red

How is he gonna be a terrible loss ? Unless youre talking about the reserves and even then it's not that bad. He's done nothing but shown maybe in a few years he could be good

Dustbin

Dustbin, Pogba will be one of the best midfielders in the world within a couple seasons. He is a very special player and now we will have to spend �20m to replace him as he was earmarked to replace Carrick.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - I think Wanyama might overtake him soon Syd...

Finger's crossed Gav.... just hope the recent comments by his agent and the purchase of Asamoah have made him think that he would be better off staying put and fighting for his place.....

Dustbin, there are people talking about Barkley again this week and what a good player he could become... in the 2 games I saw pogba v barkley, pogba destroyed him...

in fact he was head and shoulders above most of the res players he played with and against....

he would be a good squad player now, and given a run maybe first choice if we do not purchase....

in a few years, i expect him to be special.... very special.

Oxred

Dustbin "How is he gonna be a terrible loss ?"

Because if we signed him on a permanent contract he could:

a) go on to become a top player - which many who have watched him believe he will achieve, OR

b) be sold in a year or two if he still wants to leave or hasn't turned out as good as expected - for say �5-25m (depending on how well he has done)

So he would be a terrible loss because we are crying out for good midfielders and even if he doesn't go on to become that at United then we could sure do with the money generated from his sale!

If he goes now we get compensation only, perhaps in the region of �300k (estimate). Football is a business and footballers are assets, we would be losing a potentially lucrative asset (either in terms of his footballing ability or the sum he could fetch in the open market) for pittance

And we are certainly not in a healthy enough financial position to just dismiss that loss, we need every penny we can generate

Does that expain it?

Gav

Sydney , are you serious ? Of all his appearances for the first team only 1 did he shine against a premier league side , he doesn't stand out that much in the reserves either , gives the ball away alot. If he went straight into the first team next year he wouldn't improve it one bit.
Don't want to hear about Barkley he's only talked about as he's young and English hasn't done anything at all in the prem to be linked to utd same as rodwell

Dustbin

Its refreshing to see people valuing Pogba instead of slating him for perhaps leaving. He will become world class, he is a better version of Yann MVila and is the perfect replacement for Carrick. IMO it is more important to retain him than purchase Martinez or MVila. It should be one of our top priorities to retain him. Anyone who says he is not that good clearly does not understand what a good midfield general does or simply hasnt watched him

Dan

Dustbin,

How many times have you seen him play? To get a player that is going to be as good as Pogba we will need to spend around 20-30 million. We already have the player there who looks like he could really make it, so he would be a massive loss if he left, not just to the reserves as you so stupidly point out.

GDS

He didn't give a toss about his last club he doesn't give a toss about our club ,he's gone suck it up

Pardoe

Dustbin, you are clearly not very clued up on Pogba's ability. Obviously someone who has never followed the reserves or academy. All I can say is good for you because you will not miss him as much as the rest of us will. Sadly we have watched him and we know how much of a loss he will be. This is a player who IMO will become a better player than both Viera and Yaya by the time he is 23. The boy has everything.

Sydney!

You must of watched a different pogba play if you think hes poor this lad will be top drawer in a few years time
johndenton

Dan, if he's that good why isn't he in the first team week in week out or just played in the euro's for France? He's 19 world class players as you've called him are in teams by then, you watch him against young reserve teams and think he's a mega star

Dustbin

Gab, I haven't heard you saying the same about Oliver Norwood ? Class act done well at Coventry which is a higher level than pogba has played yet he's gone to Huddersfield without a mention , maybe if he had pogba's agent you'd have said the same about him

Dustbin

Hes to good for united there holding his progression back he should of made 15-20 first team games last season
y.n.w.a

Dustbin, I would have played him for more games than SAF did but SAF likes to keep Carrick in. Also, in the past 2 years te reserves level football is much higher and full of young immensely talented players of a much higher standard than what Huddersfield play at.

Tbh i backing dustbin here how can syd say he is going to be better than yaya or veira when they went on to great things how do u no pogba will there has been thousands of good reserve players across the world that have been tipped for great things and guess wa have not made it what says pogba will really ?,, u dont no u all judge him on reserve and u18 games its a big old step up to the first team ur all so sure he is the amazing top class player well at the moment he is not , not done onee thing in he first team but u all rate him at a 20 million lost lol u all make me laugh , he is 19 now all the other starts of the world at his age has made the first team and even international caps why hasnt he ? is there a reason for this ? you can not say he is going to be this gd and mean it as u have no idea how gd he is going to be he could have a bad injury to day an not play for a year u really dont no so stop with all your he going to be great and wait to see if he does thn come back an say aww he is great now!

Reserves at a high standard ? It's kids football , a few years ago they'd be playing against seasoned pros getting back to fitness or keeping fitness up coz they're not getting a game

Dustbin

Dustbin, Norwood? Are you having a laugh? Pogba was 100 times better than Norwood. Perhaps you are not well placed to comment giving the fact you never watched the player play. The manager didn't send him out on loan because he was ready to be blooded into the first team. Norwood was never going to make it at United. Norwood will end up a mid-table EPL player, Pogba will be in the French and Juventus first team within two seasons and will be moving onto better things by the time he is 23.

No name, come back in a couple years and we will see who was right. IMO Pogba will be a world-class player by 23, I have no doubt about that. The manager would have played him much more had he signed on the dotted line. I am not going to get bitter and start saying he wasn't that good anyway, I would be lying. He will be a very special player if he keeps his head down which he will.

Sydney!

Syd u are 100% sure tht he will be a world class player better than yaya and veria by the time he is 23 u r one bias person if he played for liverpool for example you would be he not any gd ect an it makes me laugh if he was so great then he would have signed a contract last year , an u no saf personally do u he have said if he signed he would have started an played alot more ? i highly doubt it u go round on this site thinking u cn shoot who ever u like dwn on there opinions an quite often u are wrong tbh now an agen ur right but more wrong thn right , pogba may turn to be world class but it is never a sure thing an u all need to stop saying it as he is going to be world class , messi and rooneyvwas the only players who at pogba ages showed they was going to be world class is pogba really at that level they were at his age ??? answer tht for me syd

It's an opinion. Pogba is 99.9% going to Juventus so why would I be biased towards a player who has turned his back on the club I support to join a club I dislike?

Pogba will be a marvelous player, sadly it will be for some other club.

Sydney!

Coz he is or was a youth player here of course and what is ur concerete proof tht he will being such a great player coz of youth games ?

01 Jul 2012 09:36:53
Morning all,

Noticed alot of people are slating Baines and protesting how much they don't want him at the club.
Reminds me alot of last year when there was first talk of us signing Young.
Personally I think though Young has been average at times and picked up a couple of knocks he's had a decent first season and won alot of people over.
Could this also happen with Baines?
I'm happy that we could be adding some more English backbone to our team, he's arguable been the best LB in the league for the last few years, prem experience, a solid defender, good at going forward and a real threat from set pieces!
I've always liked Evra and like the way he goes forward but unfortunately he cost us on a few occasions last year in defence and didn't add anything to the team going forward apart from a few tricks and sly passes.
Hopefully by adding Baines it will make Evra realise he has to step up his games to keep his place and we will have some healthy competition at LB.

Chris!

Evra won't play second fiddle to Baines - and vice versa. If Baines joins, Evra leaves.
Steve O

I think he'll be a decent signing, he's been unlucky in the fact that Ashley Cole is probably Englands greatest ever left back, and if he wasn't around he'd be an England regular. I don't see him as competition for Evra though because at 27 and costing �12 million+ that doesn't make sense to me, i think he'll be a direct replacment for Evra who i think may be going back to France (PSG perhaps), otherwise i think its a hell of a lot to pay for competition for a left back.

Andy B

My only concern is, he's only a few years younger than patrice. i know he would still have a few good years in him and he's been excellent for his team, but would prefer if we went for someone younger

I'm happy if we get baines , I think evra has shocking in defence for the last 2 years this technique of arms behind his back stand 10ft away and watch the opposition cross the ball is costing so many goals not to mention his ball watching, but what do I know he gets picked every week

Dustbin

I can see Fergie doing something similar to what he did with Henzie when Evra came in, Phaze Baines in slowly over the season and then Evra will be sold next summer with Fabio coming back from loan.

Agree with Andy in saying he will return to France, probably with PSG as they would pay a decent sum for him and match his wages.

Chris!

I think our team would improve from day one with Baines in over Evra, both defensively and in terms of his assists record/free kick ability. Perhaps phase Evra out over the season then sell him next summer? Fabio is reportedly going out on loan this seson and Blackett is a talent but still young, so this plan would give those a year to develop then be ready to compete with Baines for the LB spot when Evra is gone

Gav

I really like Patrice, he's been a great player & leader for United, however since the whole France world cup debacle he hasn't been the same player. This could also be because he hasn't really got anyone pushing him for a starting place in the side! With Baines coming in we'll have 2 of the best left backs in europe in our squad. This can only be a good thing, when you think of the amount of games we play, they could both get a lot of playing time too.

I like mad Pat as a squad member and influence within the squad, but we cannot carrying him any longer. Two years is enough and he is costing us valuable points. I have said so many times that there isn't a better player in the world that can get from our box to the opposition box. His link-up play with the winger is very very good, but when he is in either box defending or attacking he is tragic. If by a rare chance he has got himself back into position he will not attempted to block a cross or wingers or fullbacks will leave him for dust. Tony Hibbert left him for dust. His only two assists last season was against United/Evra. When Evra is in the opposition box his final ball never finds a United player and I have lost count how many times he has been tackled on the edge of the area as he is too slow at finding a pass and then we are left defending. It's time for a change, in fact we are two years overdue so even though I am not a massive fan of Baines, I would take him ahead of Evra. Evra has been a good servant to the club, but we are not a charity and we cannot prolong player's careers out of kindness or pity. When you are no longer good enough, it's time to go. Evra may stay next season depending on who we bring in, but if Baines is brought in I expect Baines to play as the number one LB. If we bring in Baines and say Willems, then it's goodnight Vienna for Patrice.

Sydney!

Why do you United fans think that we would sell one of the best left backs in the world for a measly �12M-�15M?
We do not need to sell Baines, we will only sell him if an obscene amount of money is thrown our way.
Everton Fan. {Ed007's Note - How obscene? Would you accept �2.50 and Welbeck? I will throw in an autographed Roy Keane print.....}

Agree with your assessment of Evra, Syd. I like you have come round to the idea of Baines as I think 1) he is better and younger than Evra right now 2) there aren't many available LB's that excite me and 3) he has bags of PL experience

I don't think we need Willems though as either Fabio or Blackett (if not both) could go on to become top LB's over the next few years

That's why I'd keep Evra for 1 more year as backup/rotation then sell him next summer leaving us with Baines, Fabio, Blackett. That would enable Fabio to go on loan to aid his development and Blackett to learn from Evra/Baines in training for a year

Gav

Gav, Evra is out of contract next summer mate. If the club want to cash in on Evra they must sell this summer.

Sydney!

Sh!te didnt know that Syd! now with Fabio gone on loan the LB situation is guna be really interesting to see how it pan's out

Gav

30 Jun 2012 23:00:19
First time posting ed i was wondering if asamoah (spelling) from udinessie (spelling) had sighned for juventus or is there still a chance of us getting him ... i think we should look to get him done quickly if available exactly what we need in our midfieldthanks great site ...MANUTD4ME {Ed002's Note - He has gone to Juventus.}

Ghana midfielder Kwadwo Asamoah will complete his move to Italian champions Juventus on Friday after passing his medical.

MTNFootball.com exclusively revealed on Monday that Asamoah will complete a move to the Italian champions this week.

He arrived in Turin on Thursday to undergo his medical ahead of sealing the big-move to the Old Lady. sorry for copy and paste