Manchester United Rumours Archive July 01 2015

01 Jul 2015 18:28:00
Gundogan has signed a new deal at Dortmund. They said only 1 player is leaving originally, is it still possible Hummels wants out eds? Thanks in advance

{Ed004's Note - He could still leave but I reckon he will stay}

01 Jul 2015 23:45:18
2 years is a short contract. It could be to extract a larger fee from a purchasing club

02 Jul 2015 00:53:52
He's probably waiting for Barcelona to come calling next summer.

02 Jul 2015 07:37:28
Agree with sparky

02 Jul 2015 09:08:22
It's not really a two year contract rather a one year extension to the one year he had remaining.

I know people will say it doesn't make a difference but it does, his extension doesn't include a pay rise, which would indicate that Dortmund are more worried about getting a large fee and Gundogan know's he needs a good season to prove his worth and to get the move to the club he wants and the pay rise that will come with it.

From what I've heard Bayern and Barca were both interested but not at the price Dortmund wanted and were not willing to offer the wages Gundogan wanted as they felt it was a bit of a gamble to sign him.

This way he gets a chance to prove himself and win himself the move he wants, and Dortmund get to protect their asset value in the player and means that Tuchel doesn't have too much disruption with the squad. It's probably the best deal for all involved.

02 Jul 2015 09:53:18
if i wants a move to bayern or barce he will have to find some form .
he has beem average really

02 Jul 2015 09:59:52
What makes you think he didn't get a pay rise Shappy? That's pretty a absurd statment to me.

02 Jul 2015 10:09:36
I'm not saying he definitely didn't get a pay rise, but from what I've heard he didn't. It's just a extension of his current terms for an extra year.

02 Jul 2015 10:33:50
No way he had plenty of options he would have got some big fat payment mate. I'm sure of it.

02 Jul 2015 11:15:22
Apparently not, it was his wage demands that scared off the interest in him. He is a shadow of the player he was, If he want's the higher wages he desires he will have to prove he's worth it first.

02 Jul 2015 14:03:23
So heaps of major clubs are chasing him and willing to offer him a big pot of cash and he suddenly decides against earning more money?

'No I will stick to my current deal even though negotiations have went on for months and even if it is much less than what I could get elsewhere' said no 24 year old ever.

02 Jul 2015 15:33:08
Lots of big clubs were interested in him but apparently his preference was Barca. This extra year will let him stay at Dortmund for another 6 months or a year and then allow Dortmund to receive a fee for him when Barca are able to register players in January or next summer.

01 Jul 2015 10:44:38
Can any Ed00 in the house be so kind to inform me whether we are looking at Thomas Muller as an alternative to Benzema.

Much appreciated.

{Ed004's Note - Muller will not be leaving Bayern this summer IMO}

01 Jul 2015 16:46:29
Thanks

01 Jul 2015 12:09:53
According to german media we've bidded for Mueller today, can't see it being true myself. He has no reason to leave Bayern bar a spat with Pep and Pep is more dispensable than Mr Bayern himself. However if it is true then my god what a player, imo very underrated and he's up there with the best strikers in the world.

01 Jul 2015 12:28:10
Also early June didn't he come out and say how good his relationship is with LvG?
We definitely need another forward, as I believe RVP will leave and with Falcao and Chicharito both out. I think the media are desperate for anything to sell papers, so far we have been close to signing Cavani, Benzema, Lacazette, Muller. Throw enough sh*t and eventually something sticks and they can say "you heard it here first"

01 Jul 2015 12:31:05
Bayern are a really funny club to do business with, especially with their German players it would seem.

I can't see the sense in chasing players who do not want to leave, or have no real desire too.

01 Jul 2015 12:37:58
Don't think it will happen and i believe he said he was honoured to be linked with United but he has no reason to leave Bayern.

01 Jul 2015 13:13:38
I don't think we would bid for a player unless there was something from them or their agent that there would be interest in joining. As he doesn't want to leave I think we can file this under bs.

01 Jul 2015 13:17:21
Weren't we suppose to have offered a huge amount of money to him last year and he was quoted as saying no because Bayern was his club and a change was not an issue for him. I don't see that being any different this year, so a bid for him would seem nonsensical.

01 Jul 2015 14:20:54
Rather we wrapped up Scneiderlin than chasing players we have absolutely no chance of getting

01 Jul 2015 15:08:02
Totally agree RA94 this is fantasy football LVG and WOODY is playing trying to sign muller ramos schweinsteiger these players are never going to leave were they say they want the signings in for the tour get schneiderlin in the door the no 6 is by far our priority so get it done were actually covered everywhere else

01 Jul 2015 16:07:04
Nach73 - Who says we were after Schweinsteiger? Papers? Rumours? At the end of the day they mean nothing.

01 Jul 2015 18:08:04
they should get schneiderlin in and stop messing about, if they wanted him why do they bid knowing his price under then leave it? Sort it out then work on other targets.

02 Jul 2015 01:01:25
Nach73 agree Schneiderlin but just as much we need a cb and otamendi looks like he is available and will be done after copa america we hope.

01 Jul 2015 11:08:14
Various papers reporting that Ashley Young has signed a 3 year contract extension worth 120k . If it is true then i would be shocked . Yes he had a good season but 120 for an average player nearing his thirties is ridiculous . May be 70k would be good for him to sign extension

01 Jul 2015 11:14:08
Think he was on £120k anyway, would be harsh to reduce his wages after his performances last two seasons

01 Jul 2015 11:27:20
RedAndy, does his performances from last season warrant 120k in the current era of finances in football?

120k a week would normally be given to players who carry teams, perform consistently and provide world class attributes to the team.

Young was a good player in a mediocre bunch last season. He seriously can't be expecting the same contract he is currently on, especially after the last few seasons (ignoring last season).

I would expect his new contract to include a wage reduction.

01 Jul 2015 11:40:21
He was one our best players and earned his wages whatever they are, which is not the case for quite a few on the current team including the so called super stars. Glad he is staying and healthy young is very good player and very useful whether as a starter or someone that comes on later in the game.

01 Jul 2015 11:59:15
I don't think he earned his waged GCU . For most part of his United career he was nothing more than squad player . 120k at that time was 3 times more than he deserved . Just because he had one good season does not guarantee he will perform at the same level for next couple of years . Further who among us have him in our starting XI next season ? Only few I guess . So 120 k for a thirty year old winger who maybe will only be a squad player is ridiculous .

01 Jul 2015 12:00:31
So Mr Weggy why do you think Young doesn't deserve his hard earned cash? Is it because he isn't a flash name? Does that mean that Di Maria (the highest paid player in PL history) should have his wages reduced after that showing last season?

It's like Felliani all over again. Some players work their nuts off and can't get a break from some people.

RAMOS RAMOS RAMOS RAMOS. I'm sure that shiney new toy will keep you amused for a while Weggy if it were to happen (which it wont!).

01 Jul 2015 12:06:26
Weggy - After this comment - "120k a week would normally be given to players who carry teams, perform consistently and provide world class attributes to the team."

I would love to know your views on ADM and in particular Rooney and RVP over the past 2 seasons as they are on more than double that!

£120k is probably average going for a Utd player now of his experience and age. No way worth it in my mind, but his last big deal and being English are key aspects, not to mention his versatility. At Stoke he wouldn't be on half that and frankly that is the level he should be at - good luck to him though, we made a rod for our own back.

Any player we sign in the future knows we are willing to pay almost double market value in wages - welcome to the mercenary club!

01 Jul 2015 12:17:46
If anything I think it's a great shame he earned less than half what di maria and falcao earned last season. So what if he's not a big name, he was one of our best most consistent performers last season so therefore he deserves one of the highest wages. And our wage bill is ridiculously high anyway, £120k is far from being one of our top earners, I'm sure Phil jones and Luke shaw earn around the same, what have they done to warrant that wage?

01 Jul 2015 13:22:46
So irrespective of other earners . does young deserve the same wage ? Most of our players are on 60-90k on wages apart from those shiny names . Young has been playing poor for most of his united career and then a season of good display (not amazing though) does not warrant him high wages . It will make just hard to offload him if he cannot continue his form on future due to his high wages

01 Jul 2015 15:52:44
Good lord JMB and Beast with unpopular opinions. Groundhog day in here.

01 Jul 2015 18:46:29
RedRosie, maybe you should read them!

01 Jul 2015 21:07:55
I have and I don't always disagree! Sometimes I feel there's a little of the bit of the old Mary Contrary with you two.

01 Jul 2015 21:53:31
Red Rosie - so we are now negative because we are saying players like Young deserve to be rewarded after a good season? Ok mate.

01 Jul 2015 23:36:28
Well that's clearly not what I said at all.

01 Jul 2015 00:59:56
I hear United are to Sign Schneiderlin in the next few days

01 Jul 2015 03:42:40
I heard Gaitan and Schneiderlin by the end of the week. Would be nice.