Manchester United Rumours Archive May 01 2011

01 May 2011 20:56:00
{Ed002's Note - It is not so much strainge as, perhaps like a child's painting, naive.}

@What's naive Ed? It's a serious question.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - It is naive to think it is as simple as just going out and buying the players listed. It simply doesn't work that way.}

@Ed, I did say that in my last post, I said "Obviously not the exact same players".

But do you think the idea is likely? One last big spend? Isn't that what Chelsea are also doing?

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - The clubs only need to spend what it takes to refresh the squad. The big plan is to buy young Brazilians and eventually have the entire Brazilian national team as home grown players.}

01 May 2011 20:27:01
Sod it, lets buy Neuer, Modric, Rodwell, Varane, Izaguirre & Sanchez and sell Berbatov, Evra, Gibson, Obertan, Macheda, Diouf, Drinkwater, Kuszczak, Corry Evans, Brown, De Laet & Dudgeon.

Lets spend £50m net on these guys. Wages won't be a problem seems VDS, Scholes, Giggs, Owen, Hargreaves & the the above outgoing players wages will be gone. (Giggs in 2012) Rodwell, Varane & Izaguirre will be on low wages anyway. Offer Sanchez, Neuer & Modric wages of 100k plus a week each to sign for us.

Cannot see the Glazers spending £50m net, but they won't have to spend much again for many years. We could just rely on the youth coming through and buying in cheapish 16 year old south Americans to send to Twente and of course finding little gems like Hernandez.

Ed, do you think this is a strange view or do you think this is a possible plan? Not the exact players of course.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - It is not so much strainge as, perhaps like a child's painting, naive.}

01 May 2011 16:54:26
Positive note - app meeting with Sanchez's people on Friday went very well and deal expected to be announced very early on in the Transfer window.

01 May 2011 15:03:39
In

midfield sniejder/ modric ( to replace scholes)
goal neuer/ ge gea/ akinfeev ( to replace vds)
attack hulk/ benzenma

out

scholes - retire
vds - retire
owen - villa
welbeck - sunderland
brown
berbatov

01 May 2011 13:27:14
{Ed002's Note - Without dropping in to any bizarre "what if" scenarios you need to remember that Giampaolo Pozzo can easily change his mind about selling the player at all. Also keep in mind that Udinese are both ambitious and wealthy and will not sell players cheap. As for holding players to ransom, I see no reason why not. They could even send him out on loan with many of the enormous squad of folks they have done so with - many are part ownership deals as well. Whilst it will be interesting to see what happens, I fear that there will be nothing concluded in the short term. Very significant lessons can be gleaned from January where Chelsea had already agreed a fee with Udinese.}

@I see what you mean, if that scenario was to happen then Udinese could just pull the plug and take him off the transfer list. Ed can I ask what the Chelsea agreed fee was?

Oh I also agree with what you think about Morata, he is bound to go out on loan like Negredo did, but could he be sold on with a buy-back clause? Or could he be used as a makeweight to sign a player that Real wants?

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - In my experiuence "buy back" clauses are very rare indeed. A loan is much more likely. I do not know the exact fee agreed in January but it was supposedly in the region of 30M euro. I would not use that as a guide as Pozzo also suggested he was worth 70M euro at one time.}

01 May 2011 13:03:10
{Ed002's Note - You seem to be forgetting that none of the discussions with the player's representatives are anything to do with a transfer fee at all. That would need to be subsequently agreed with Udinese. I think you may be seeing this as an all to easy deal to conclude.}

@Not at all mate, I don't think this deal will be easy for anyone to complete. What I was asking you was, say Sanchez tells Udinese he wants to go to say Inter Milan and that he is not interested in going anywhere else, would that mean that Inter hold all of the cards and may not have to pay as much as say, City?

It's a question Ed, just say he wants Inter and only Inter, but City offer £10m more than Inter, could he still end-up at Inter because that is where HE wants to go. Surely Udinese cannot force him to join City because they have offered Udinese the most? That's what I mean mate, I am confused.

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - Without dropping in to any bizarre "what if" scenarios you need to remember that Giampaolo Pozzo can easily change his mind about selling the player at all. Also keep in mind that Udinese are both ambitious and wealthy and will not sell players cheap. As for holding players to ransom, I see no reason why not. They could even send him out on loan with many of the enormous squad of folks they have done so with - many are part ownership deals as well. Whilst it will be interesting to see what happens, I fear that there will be nothing concluded in the short term. Very significant lessons can be gleaned from January where Chelsea had already agreed a fee with Udinese.}

01 May 2011 12:30:53
This Sanchez rumour reminds me of the Balotelli rumours last season. It's probably just a way for Udinese to get more money from City.

01 May 2011 10:08:30
"{Ed002's Note - Manchester United is certainly trying to put a case for Sanchez as permission is there to talk to his agents - as Chelsea did in January and as Juventus, Inter and Manchester City has done recently. Roma wait in the wings to do teh same. I would suggest that this story has some way to run, but the player will be interested in moving to Old Trafford above manchester City.}"

@Ed, but do you believe he would pick United over everybody else as well as City? I wouldn't want to go any higher than £25m, I think his size could still be a concern for the EPL. I think we would try and get him smitten to join us and then use that as a way of getting him a bit cheaper.

If he is dead keen on joining us, but City offer £10m more, would we still be in the driving seat Ed? How does it work?

Sydney!

{Ed002's Note - I think there is a long way to go. I think his fee will get higher and either Manchester City or perhaps Inter may be best placed. Udinese are not going to sell him cheap because ghe wants to go to Manchester United. You may recall the major difficulties Chelsea had negotiationg with Udinese in Monaco during January.}

01 May 2011 03:29:40
30 Apr 2011 23:22:29
Apparently we are trying to sign Sanchez away from City. Not sure if this is a lazy journo story, but in the telegraph, you are usually fairly reliable. Does this mean Nani might be leaving? Both Nani and Berbatov have 12 month left on thier contract, do will they be moved on?

Syd/ ed/ gan, what do you know? I get the feeling SAF has seen how well we play with pace, and wants more creativity. I could see us signing modric, rodwell, and Sanchez if the stories are true and I'd be very happy with that and of course de gea. I don't see Young at United. Not good enough.

Maybe this line up?

De gea
rafael vidic Ferdinand evra
Valencia fletcher/ carrick modric sanchez
Rooney
hernandez

Doyley {Ed004's Note - I doubt Nani will leave but both Ed001 and myself rate Sanchez highly and would love to see him in the Premiership next year.}

@Nani signed a 4 year contract in march 2010

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United is certainly trying to put a case for Sanchez as permission is there to talk to his agents - as Chelsea did in January and as Juventus, Inter and Manchester City has done recently. Roma wait in the wings to do teh same. I would suggest that this story has some way to run, but the player will be interested in moving to Old Trafford above manchester City.}