Manchester United Rumours Archive September 01 2012

01 Sep 2012 18:20:53
Whether or not Nani is involved tomorrow will be incredibly interesting. As far as I know he is fit, if he's not even in the squad then it points to him leaving to Russia. But on the other hand, he might have to play since Young misses the match. Fetching £30 million for Nani wouldn't be a bad idea now if we aren't going to tie him down to a new deal - however I also think that it leaves us a little bit short.

If he does go then I expect we will sell him for £20 million in January and perhaps sign one of Gaitan, Muniain or Rodriguez. But even then, they'd be cup tied for the CL so Fergie is unlikely to go for them.

In all likelihood he'll sign a new deal.

RedDevil19

Selling Nani now would be a really bad idea. We wouldn't be able to replace him and selling him. This would insinuate that we have no intention of replacing him as such. I would be very disapointed if this was the case. It would make more sense to sell him next summer for 15-20m and have him in our squad for a year. Having him contribute is worth more than 10m imo. If he can get similar stats to the last couple of years that means he'll either score or assist 20 goals during the season. Thats gotta be worth 10m. Also by selling him next summer we are more likely to see the funds rasied be reinvested in buying more players, if we sell him now the money will just disapear.

Shappy

He's in the squad tomorrow

Dustbin

Munian and Rodriguez would not be cup tied

RedKnight

But who do you think will shelve in nani or the club?

Rodriguez plays for Porto who are in the CL...You might be right about Muniain though.

RedDevil19

Nani is not United quality.
If someone is insane enough to pay £20m+ for him then its a great piece of business.

In order of preference, Rodriguez, Muniain, Gaitan would all improve the first team. Instantly.

If Nani had been sold prior to 31st August I'm convinced we would have stepped up our efforts to bid for the above players.

I think our circa £50m transfer budget was spent though hence why neither a new winger or as discussed frequently here a new centre mid was brought in.

Halesini

That's not fair he is united quality. I think we will see a different Nani now. People on this site are very fickle.

Why fickle? He has been inconsistent his whole time here and comparing him to all the other wingers we have had in Giggs, Ronaldo, Beckham then he is not up to scratch, especially for 130k + a week. We are united and we only want the best and at the very least or our players to play for the badge as well and not the money. SAF knows this and as he said, if players grow disillusioned with the club and ask for ridiculous wages then they will be given a push out of the club. The only reason I do not want Nani out is because we dont have any other pacey player who can beat people on the left wing (Ashley Young is not in the mold of Nani).

Dan

Nani is useless and should have been sold . Shahram

If you can't beat the first man wit a cornor and insist on taking them you are a disaster waiting to happen there for he should go or if he is smart take any contract the club is willin to offer cause the only thing the lad has going for him is his association wit the club as soon as he leaves he will never be heard of again ...... 20+mill and run .......

CAIN

I don't think it's being fickle if you bought into the Nani being the next Ronaldo hype when he signed. Then nothing happens, then still nothing happens and now he seems to have gone even further backwards - Valencia is twice the player. People were waiting for the maturity and decision making to emerge, but the simple fact is that he has stood still for too long (or started stepping back in by view) and plays the game like he is in the playground still. He is not good enough for UTD simple, he was a very exciting prospect, but has not developed how he should have. The old Denilson of Betis or Lentini of AC Milan springs to mind, all hype and no end product.

Sween

Oh great ! the window closes and all the nani haters are out - its like déjà a vu all over again.

Mike

If he goes I expect them money will go straight back to the Glazers!

Dan

Why is it always Nani or Evras fault? Rooney plays crap ...nobody complains. I would sell Rooney and buy Falcao. It always seems to be a witch hunt with some of you guys.

I buy into this support the team no matter what talk, but by not wanting Nani at Utd is supporting the team. When he plays he more often than not is the opponents 12th man, he is one of the primary reasons we hardly have anywhere near the chances we used to create. Players know that when he gets the ball he is either going to go on a mad run or give it away, this stops our players mvoing for him and breeds bad habits. He is rubbish and shouldn't be anywhere near Utd's first 11.

Sween

Fickle over Nani?

I'm sure the Eds can confirm my opinion of Nani and a few other players.

Nani has never been and never will be United class. Period. He can score 6 today but my opinion will not change. Over his 5 years at the club he has been and in my opinion will continue to be woeful. He is a dead weight who has 2 or 3 sparkling performances a year at best.

Halesini

After his performance off the bench today im sure he proved to the fence sitters that he isnt and never will be good enough for utd.
johndenton

01 Sep 2012 11:47:13
Firstly, well done Eds another transfer window finished. You did a great job as always.

Has Henriquez signed yet, and if not is that it for us signing him until January? Cheers.

Welsh Dragon {Ed007's Note - I'm 99% sure the deal was completed.}

He was at the under 21 game against spurs with training top on plus he's on the offical team photo

vimto {Ed007's Note - Thanks for that.}

Saw pictures of him in a United tracksuit somewhere, thought he attended the reserve game the other day as well ?(watching not playing)

He's tweeted about it as well, seems strange not to have had confirmation though.

TM {Ed002's Note - He has signed.}

Waiting on permit I think. 'special talent' jobbie.

Whistler.

He got the permit already Whistler.
It's all done and sorted.

RedMist

01 Sep 2012 11:33:22
Find it such a shame that City managed to get Javi Garcia for £16m which isnt much for a player of his calibre. Feel we should have put a cheeky bid in, unless we have a certain player in mind to get maybe in January or next summer? Hmm.

Ozwald

This is make or break for Anderson I feel and if he doesn't perform then Witsel will come in to replace him. We may also try to get in a replacement for Scholes. I dont think SAF sees Powell as Scholes replacement as he has said only a few weeks ago that he is trying really hard to find someone to replace Scholes. Personally, I think Andreas Pereira from the academy should replace Scholes but he is only 16 and will have to wait 2 or 3 years before he develops enough physically for the PL. Also, keep an eye on Van Velzen who we have loaned to Antwerp, he could replace Nani next summer.

Dan

Sly spurts had him as being signed also

Pardoe

Posted that in wrong topic apologies Ed

Pardoe

01 Sep 2012 07:59:39
Well the transfer window is gone and I am curious what everyone thinks about SAF statement that if a certain player was available we would go in for him. Personally i am off the view that all the players that were moved around were not oh his list including those that supposedly were available Moutinho, Cabaye etc etc. Ed 02 seems to be in the know on a lot of this stuff but always very cagey, so cmon who is it?

BTW the russain window closes a week later does that mean we can sell nani? {Ed002's Note - Witsel was the player that Manchester United had a bid rejected for.}

I didnt know that about the Russian window! Nani could still leave then..... Now that we cant reinvest the money I am not keen to sell him though. We could bring in Larnell from the reserves as cover and it would be good or the lad, I suppose I don't care either way.

Dan

Why sell Nani when we can't replace him?

He is still a damn fine player. I know that a lot of you think we should have someone better, but he fact is we have him. stop this personic talk about selling one of our better players at a time when we can't sign a replacement.

01 Sep 2012 08:57:49
Year 4 ...................and counting where the OBVIOUS midfield weakness has not been dealt with.
Or has it ? Is Hector Herrera coming in January and just seeing his last season in Pachuca through to the end ?

My money (because I have some unlike United) is on Fergie playing Jones in the CM defensive role because he is paid for, on low wages and young enough to do as he is told.

For everyone thinking we "splashed" the cash............... balance it ALL out by taking into account the wages that have been saved on Berbatov and all the others like Ji-sung Park etc not to mention the "loans to get them experience".
More scrimping by the Glazers with Gill and Ferguson pulling the red and white wool over our eyes.

Glad RVP is here and more pleased with Kagawa but without a world class Midfielder to boss the tough games we will win little or nothing AGAIN this year.
We simply will not compete in the midfield and that will be our achilles heal YET AGAIN.

Darn it!! Pressed send before i finished.
.......United.
It could be a lot worse, we could of sold a striker on loan to west ham before we were guaranteed a suitable replacement, and then brought in no one.
Flyhalf(Mitch)

Or perhaps he'll play Jones there because he'll do a bloody good job?

AJH

Love reading grand posts from people who are full of themselves yet they can't even speak English right..,.,,, We didn't get the huge CM signing we were hoping but I do think we have made some very smart signings. Stop your whinging and get behind the team now.

Rosie

"Year 4 ...................and counting where the OBVIOUS midfield weakness has not been dealt with."

And yet for three of those years we were winning trophies galore.

Strange, eh.

RedMist

Stop whinging nothing wrong with the squad who bossed midfield when we last won the title or the year before that and dont say fletcher

Nice post mr noname, you obviously would never be happy with Utd maybe you should support city as you obviously need to spend 100m per window

Pardoe

Kagawa is on around 100K a week, RVP on over 200k a week. That's nearly 150k more a week outgoing than last season so an extra 7m or more a year in wages not to mention the additional wages of Buttner and Henriquez although there wages will be small. Stop making up false facts!

Dan

Anyone saying we don't have a world class midfielder is being incredibly direspectful!

Sick to death of this moaning!!!!

MDJ

Could not agree more, We have had the wool pulled over our eyes for too long now.... I just wish that the Glazers were a little more open with the supporters... lets face it we never hear jack s**t from them.

Boring now! Let's just see where we are at the end of the season. Fergie knows what he's doing he's a far better manager than anyone who posts on here so let's leave the midfield to him

GD

Get a grip man ffs, sending players out on loan is done by super rich clubs like City, Chelsea and PSG or well stocked clubs like Real Madrid.All teams loan out players for a variety of reasons.
Ok I'll admit i was a bit disappointed we didn't get Witsel, but i didn't want any old midfielder to come in just to satisfy some of the fans, it had to be the right one and obviously the one he (Sir Alex) wanted wasn't available for one reason or another.
The window is now shut...... time to get behind who ee have in the squad, win, lose or draw, we are

And which teams, bought WORLD CLASS MIDFIELDERS?......NONE.

I usually agree "to an extent" with this kind of post but dude, we have made our first 11 stronger which in return makes our 2nd 11 stronger, so we have added strengh in depth to the team.
RVP is world class,
Kagawa is gonna be world class,
Powell has so much potential,
Henriquez i don't know enough about to comment.
Buttner, a much needed back up for LB.
If we can keep our players off the treatment table and fit we will have even more strengh in depth.
We all know we need an Midfield Enforcer type player but I'm reserving judgement till January at least on that one.
Overall I'm a lot happier right now then I was exactly 12 months ago, lets see how things go before we pass judgement....
HERBIE

Original poster chatting bull!

You worry about our midfield, which is understandable to an extent but then you have to think back to the beginning of last season. Cleverly and Anderson were literally bossing the midfield before they both got injured. A lot of movement, rarely gave the ball away and both have the passion to get back and make a good tackle.

Have faith, stop moaning or support another club.

Ozwald

We don't need a world class midfielder, we just needed a midfielder that can do a good job and be relied upon.

I'm a fan of Cleverley and I hope he stays fit but all other CM options are weak.
Anderson has more junk in his trunk than I do (and I don't exercise), Carrick has been ruined by MUFC coaching and Fletcher may never work properly again (I pray to God that he does).

I think that SAF is suffering from a mild type of mental illness. He's gone through these blind patches before and can't consider more than 1 or 2 players for a vacancy when it's plainly obvious than there are probably at least ten CM's that could have done a job for us.
Oh, and by the way, I mean mental illness in the sense that we all suffer from it in one way or another at some point. Not trying to make out he's mental.

Pritpal

Tbh, dan i think you are wrong there mate, i could be wrong but i dont think theres any way shinji is on 100k wages and rvp defo is not on 200k+ rooney is on 200k so rvp definately wouldnt be on it.

Some can both speak and type English CORRECTLY this post is a joy to behold."Love reading grand posts from people who are full of themselves yet they can't even speak English CORRECTLY We didn't get the huge CM signing we were hoping but I do think we have made some very smart signings. Stop your whinging and get behind the team now."

Rosie

01 Sep 2012 01:35:19
Moutinho not signing for Spurs is a great result.
Maybe we could move for him in the Jan window if our midfield is not working out as planned ?

Halesini

Well we now know what fee it will take to get him so this could happen.

i think it will also give fergie time to assess flethcer and the youth prospects in the squad.

Quality player but what we need is a physical presence in the heart of midfield. Would actually say cleverley is a similar player, albeit not quite as polished or experienced

31 Aug 2012 23:21:51
Have it on VERY good authority that the paperwork has gone through before 11pm, for........CABAYE!!


Sorry Eds, I'm bored.


StevieK

Haha aren't we all bored. Today started with Fabergas and ended with cabaye. You are joking aren't you

I'm in canada at the moment n have been checking this site every 20 minutes or so,really hope this is true!! come on united!! i love you..

Andyred

'fraid so mate.

StevieK

Sorry but gutted. hope so much that i'm wrong but i really think we needed another centre mid. as i say i hope i'm wrong, come on united, lets show the others we're united n they should fear us. i love my football club as we all do n bring the season on, we have some fantastic players n if anyone can fergie can

Andyred

Stevie you need to get a hobby mate. leave the trolling to outsiders. how to not make friends and disappoint people....


..constantine..

Constantine - when you get to my age, this is how Friday nights roll mate :)


StevieK