Manchester United Rumours Archive September 01 2013

01 Sep 2013 23:48:52
balague confirmed that real and arsenal have reachd agreement for ozil pending personal terms.Another one gone.

Since we are struggling to find a place for Kawaga, i''m not sure how Ozil would have helped us. We need steel and drive in midfield. let's stick with Fellaini.

I can't believe we wasted time on a player like fabregas who in all honesty was very unlikely to leave when we could try and sign oezil he would vastly improve our first 11

A web site have just reported that Manchester United are also in talks with Ozil's reps. So he isn't gone just yet.

Scolms, it isn't a case of Oezil or Fellaini. MU will want both my friend.

Confirmation that Utd are definitely not in for Ozil. Of course not. Why would we want to sign such a talent? Much better not to sign anyone at all.

01 Sep 2013 22:30:13
Heard from a strong source that 3 midfielders will join united by tomorrow, 2 central and one attacking forward/winger who can play from the left

Woodward was also in Germany to sort out the transfer of Gundogan (hence why he wasnt in the Dortmund team today) along with Herrera from Bilbao who was also left out of the first 11.

The other forward player I am not sure but it depends if kagawa goes to either dortmund or PSG tomorrow

He's injured isn't he?

Gundogan has been injured and hence why sahin is starting for dortmund at the moment.

I don't believe it we have been lied to all summer about being in the market for the best it's aloud of rubbish its all just to sell season tickets and reap the profits our midfield is embarrassing we come up against teams in champ league this year we will get over run out played out classed and knocked out early stages and everyone knows deep down I'm right and sooner moyes gets this into his head and realises he's not manger of Everton any more where standards are slack he's manger of Manchester United greatest club on earth if only we had the midfield to match the name .

Gundogan is injured and out for at least 4 weeks.

Think you might need to find yourself a new 'source'.

Strong source being yourself I assume.

01 Sep 2013 22:12:51
Manchester United are in talks for sneijder, this has been confirmed by a tv journalist on twitter. We did have a bid turned down for him two weeks ago.

A rumour which wouldn't be surprising considering the sneijder news, is that PSG are in talks for Kagawa. Anyone heard anything makes concrete on this?

I think it is bs and the journos are going to write up all kind of things in the next 24 hours.

Does this mean my time machine has worked then is it really 2011,,,, im, off to next may to see who wins league cup and cl so I can come back and screw william hill

This is a false twitter rumour I think you'll find

01 Sep 2013 21:59:16
Amazing what bidding a realistic price does in terms of getting a chance to sign a good player as even Arsenal have just found out!

If United are not in for Ozil an he ends up at Arsenal there must be a reason. I hope its that Rooney is going and that we are in for Mata.

If not and all we get is the Clown from Everton serious questions have to be asked.

I really can't believe we've bid for fabregas but let a player like ozil join arsenal with out fighting to get him, if we end up not signing anyone when a world class midfielder is up for grabs ill question where we're heading

01 Sep 2013 20:22:11
Manchester United could look towards Brazilian Playmaker Kaka if their last attempt bid for Fellaini fails. Kaka has publically voiced his desire to leave Madrid, and he has refused to turn down a move to the Premier league. {Ed007's Note - Kaka has signed for AC Milan.}

Its amazing that a lot of people don't follow soccer news and just post without knowledge. United would not sign Kaka for obvious reasons. And as the Editor points out, Kaka signed for Milan earlier today.

Apologies for the last rumour. I wasn't aware of kakas signature for milan

Gone to Milan for free! Why oh why we haven't taken him I don't know

Hw wouldn have wanted to come anyway!

Kaka is yet to agree terms with Milan

Kaka cost Real in total 149m euro's supposedly at a cost of 4.5m euros per goal that is exactly how good he's been at real

01 Sep 2013 19:18:43
Bale to Madrid confirmed. Let's see if there is a domino effect.

01 Sep 2013 12:26:42
some spanish Journo reporting he has spoken to herrera this morning and the deal is not going to happen as united have made it clear that economically it is too expensive.

He goes on to mention the taxes as reason for the deal not being viable and refers to the Martinez deal where Bayern used a tx consultant to work out a deal with the IRS but in this case they believe there is no time to find a solution with the Tax authorities.

If this is true is just just sums up the amateur transfer business of utd this window. Woodward is making our club look embarrassing with low offers and running out of time to complete deals. If they fail to sign anyone this window I feel sorry for DM, he's not in control of the transfer activity and has on more than 1 occasion expressed his desire to add to our curretn squad. let's hope Ed has a few tricks up his sleeve but I seriously doubt it.

Quite right, they have run out of time because of their amateurish approach. Even with more time, I seriously doubt whether they would have got it sorted. Other sides had their deals sorted weeks ago, what we were doing then? Liverpool currently 1-0 up. I won't be all that sorry if we lose this game - it might focus a few minds.

Agree 100%. Everyone knows about Bilbao and their way of dealing with things and release clauses and tx related issues. Let's wait and see what happens, he will be getting some tasty stuff from fans come tuesday morning:)

Premier League club with Amateur executives.

01 Sep 2013 15:59:50
david moyes: ''these was our best performance of the season'' this guy is a joke we need 3 4 players asap,
lets get rid of gigs, cleverly who is not so cleaver, young and ''our best midfielder'' carrick who can only pass backwords who can moyes say that he is very happy with the performance against a modest liverpool, all u united fans just be real with yourselfs and let's admit the problems we will face this season if no changes happen, thanks

We won't sign any1 as we just seen out best performance of the season according to mr david moyes

I can't believe after the defeat to Liverpool Moyes said I'm more than happy with the players I have got that is the best we've played all season I'm I the only one concerned this is a joke we need signings now

@ManUnited4Ever,
Carrick? I believe giggs only started because Nani and Kagawa are not match fit. However I agree with Cleverly. I would love to see chance given to Zaha now though. can't see any spark in the wingers.

Yes carrick he creats a chance every 5-6 matches and 70% of Man U fans think
That his the one I would rate scholes 10 times fitter and better then him so maybe we need to call scholes back

Carrick, Cleverly should not be Manchester United starters If wome people think they are then comment after meeting the big teams thy should be playing for westham or some little team Fellaini is better than all the midfielders we have

If we don't sign any1 we are going to be
In a very bad situation this season, don't even consider C league because its out of our hands, worst players today that we should get rid of. Are:
Cleverly
Young
Giggs
Carrick
Evra
Valencia. The only thing he has its speed apart from that not to much
We don't need this players let's get some box to box players we can't connect midfield with defence at all and we never to through the middle of the pich why do we always passed back or sideways we should try to be a bit more direct if moyes can't se this then I predict that he won't knish this season in charge of man utd

Carrick has been one of the best last season. Did you not watch last season? More successful forward passes from Carrick than other playmakers includeing xavi etc. not saying he's as good as xavi, but what you said is rubbish.

Problem is that we don't have anyone good to partner him. Cleverly is ok but only as a backup.

We need someone like Herrera to improve our 1st 11 alongside Carrick.

@ManUnited4Ever,
I think you are running with your preconceptions mate. You say "worst players today" I think Evra was really good and RVP would be in that list. Again based on "today's game".

Your stats are ring how can u even compare him with xavi lol I have watchd last season if you think hi is a good creative midfielder how come he don't create no chances, every creative midfielder even in there worst form or day they will create at least 1 chance in 90 when was the last time carrick created something?

I agree Manchester United 4ever apart from Carrick half of them are not Manchester United quality

He hasn't got the confidence to run past players or do any runs let's adited we don't have 1 quality midfielder that's the problem and don't forget we are man utd, it is a big problem so let's wake up from this spell that gives lots of the fans and the club the impression that we are a force in Europe, spurs look better the us and that's a problem!

I was trying not to rant throughout this entire window but Utd need to get it together. Everyone knows we need new central midfielders but woodward need to make some deals and quickly with all the funding utd has they should be able to reinvest in the squad. Herrera or ozil should be done by now the midfield is horrible. I don't agree with all the criticism of carrick he is the only constant mid that we have and does work well just doesn't have the passing creativity to take over games. Hopeful the lose to liverpool will cause woodward to get in gear and start to get deals done.

I didn't say he was a creative force, I said he had more forward passes, in direct contradiction to your accusation tHat he always passes backwards.

Carrick is a good midfielder, but no, he is not the creative force we need.

No one is arguing about our midfield not being good enough, but don't sling factually incorrect criticism at our only decent midfielder and expect not to get called on it.

Mark my words, if we do not make any midfield signings before the deadline passes we will have a massive struggle to even finish in the top four. With the exception of Carrick our midfield is abysmal! Look at today, Cleverly, Giggs and Young? What top sides would those three even make the squad of let alone first eleven? They are not creative, they are not goalscorers and are not a physical presence. so what are they? Giggs is a true legend but is nearly 40 the other two just aren't good enough! I will support United forever but right now I feel let down. I personally plow a lot of money into United's coffers and feel I have the right to whinge so please United let the moths out of the wallet and dig deep, whatever it costs like the other top teams have.

I've been saying all along this season. We won't buy anyone of note.?Because no o e outside of the premiership has heard of Moyes or Woodentop. Still playing Giggs at. 39. Fantastic servent for our club, but come on Moyes he his 39 for Gods sake, does he play because he picks himself being a coach now. Zaha over not so cleverly every time.
I'll give Moyes one season before he is hounded out. He, s the manager not the tea lady.

Like a lot of people on here, I thought today might be a wake-up call, but after hearing Moyes interview you have to seriously wonder if anybody at that club can see what's happening. No disrespect to Arsenal but I really hope we don't end up in a similar position where we either can't or won't spend the cash to attract the best.

At start of window people were talking about Ronaldo etc(ok, we knew that would never happen), but now I think I'd be grateful for Fellaini, not that I rate him, but compared to what we have at the min he might actually be an improvement!.

Spurs sell Bale and re-invest in improving the overall squad, you have to ask why we didn't do same when selling Ronnie, no doubt straight into Glazers pockets. Moyes and Woodward are Yes men, we'll have to get used to that until someone wakes up and has the Ba. s to do what needs doing, I.e a clear out of sub standard players and large investment in quality.

Charla

Er, Rock mate, Zaha is a winger, Clevs is a central midfielder, saying "Zaha over not so cleverly every time." is, well, not so clever.

Seriously guys, we all know the central midfield DESPERATELY needs an addition or two, but that doesn't mean none of the current midfielders belong here. Carrick is solid and Cleverly is pretty good, just not good enough to be first choice.

As for not making the top 4, that's a bit premature.

City spent 100m without actually getting better players than they already had.

Chelsea spent well, added a couple of good players to improve their squad.

Spurs have bought well, but will need time to gell.

Liverpool have strengthened but just aren't good enough over a full season.

Arsenal are in the same boat as us reinforcement wise.

Will we win the league? I doubt it without decent new signings.

Will we drop out of the top 4? Even less likely than winning the title with the current squad.

Anyone who slags Carrick off has not got a clue. 7 seasons he has been at the heart of the midfield, 5 x champs, lost 1 by a point and 1 on GD. Cleverly and Young were awful today, especially Young, he gave the ball away so many times it was a joke. We need what we have since Scholes retired the first time, a partner for Carrick. I would love Ozil but just don't see it happening, I don't blame Moyes, he is playing it with a straight bat. Woodward, whoever he is, is making us look stupid. In fact it looks like were going to pay 26 mill for Curly, we could have got him for 23 mill with his buyout clause, very poor! I am worried.

Yes I have to say right from our preseason games I haven't had any confidence in Moyes at all!And today's selection against liverpool wasn't making me feel any more enthusiastic for the season ahead!Giggs is a true legend but I'm feeling he's got too much of a voice amongst it, and picks himself!he shouldn't be starting!neither should Cleverly, welbeck or young!I don't like the way utd are playing at the moment it seams we are far too depended on our defensive duties because our passing and movement is dreadful and we are so predicable in attack its demoralising!Welbeck has potential, but let's be honest he is no goalscorer and is very limited, he is a squad player!Chico should of started, as he made a difference when he came on by stretching they're defence!yes I hear you all saying its his first game since last season, but he should be ready!Cleverly and Carrick are far too slow in midfield, they're movement and passing were extremely negative!midfield is a major issue here and I don't see use winning anything if we don't address this!i also feel Fellaini will not improve this as he is not any quicker in the brain or in the legs or any better than then what we have!is Kagawa injured?not on the bench
today!nani did look rusty but created more and looked more effective than Giggs and young did the whole game, and i'm hoping he stays fit.I don't
Know why Moyes has said we played our best football from the start of the season because I and a lot of close utd fans thought it was dreadful!we had a lot of Poseidon but looked very predictable and did very little with it!Maybe Moyes is way in over his head.I could understand this mentality of hang in there for the first 20mins and don't concede a goal!Right away that puts us on the back foot, its negative and puts the players in the wrong mindset of, oh we need to hang on here because if we don't liverpool will destroy us!this is not the utd way, maybe the everton way.we go out to attack and to have them
worrying, not the other way round!
I have absolutely no confidence in Moyes or Woodword whatsoever, in his team line up, his tactics or there transfer activity!hope I'm wrong but I don't see them bringing anyone in of real real quality!Its a tough job for Moyes and if we are still playing the way we are in mid season and are 3rd or fourth in the table, Itl be very very hard for us to get back to winning ways!Time will tell.

I've said all along that we do have a great squad but based on today's performance we just don't seem to have that cutting edge. Possibly mixed with poor tactics. Why the hell kagawa doesn't get a sniff is beyond belief as he would really open up teams with our away counter attacking play. I really want moyes to do well but today I've had my first doubts on his style. playing too safe and still getting nothing from the game. If we were to go 1 nil up then bring giggs on fair enough but please. I for one will be relieved come 11 o clock Monday to put an end to all the false reports. At least then we can get on with what will be a very tough season and still get behind our team!

Thorne,
Mate, I think Cleverly has got enough chance to prove himself. If Playing alongside carrick (who spreads the ball around so well) he cannot get into space and create chances, I think he will never improve. Regarding Zaha I was not referring to play zaha at cleverly's role but at our wingers, who to be honest can't run at defenders and neither could cross the ball

Don't get me wrong, i'm not Cleverly's biggest fan either, but he's ok as a backup option.

Having said that, we looked great a couple of years ago when Ando was briefly fit and the two of them really clicked, so maybe Cleverley would be better alongside a partner who doesn't like to sit deep so much, but gets forward and moves around more. Just a thought.

01 Sep 2013 10:51:04
Reports saying Kagawa swop for gundagon as Dortmund fans what him back.

Not even on bench so possible

Why isn't Kagawa even on the subs bench. Moyes is making some big mistakes already.

Giggs and Young on the wingers.! absolute joke!

Plus loadsa cash! Kags is worth a lot more than Gundogen, I'd much rather keep him as I expect him to be awesome this season

Kagawa has stated on at least two occasions that he will not go back this summer.

It would seem to me moyes doesn't rate kagawa, [shame as I do] kagawa stating twice he wants to stay only tells me he's been told he can go

I think everyone in the world rates Kagawa more than Moyes! I can't see that happening to be honest even though I rate gundogen (spelling sorry) I think we got what we deserved today! Transfer windows been a joke!

Did no one see what Kagawa's agent said? He's basically being rested because he hardly had a summer break. Moyes does rate him as he's a very good player anyone can see that. Give it a few more games then start to worry.

01 Sep 2013 10:07:56
We have put a bid in for Miranda CB
from Ath Madrid 12m!!
BUSY BUSY

31 Aug 2013 23:56:02
Few reports in Spain that Herrera wants the move! Hopefully we activate the buy out and bring him in!

01 Sep 2013 01:42:28
hope so mate herrera will do a good job 4 us zee :)

If we get him it would make the window for me, him and Fellaini would bolster our midfield with just what we need.

Little short of top class left winger, but that is where Kags, Zaha, Januzej etc have a chance of game time. So better to leave that spot open.

Fingers crossed they get it done :)

Good player but not the answer to our problems.

Tomr, just out of interest, why don't you think Herrera is the answer?

We hardly ever land our top targets bet RvP and Berbs.

We didn't get Gazza, we all know how that turned out.
We didn't get Shearer, we all know how that turned out.
We didn't get Ronaldinho, we all know how that turned out.

So now we've not got Fabregas, I fully expect someone like Herrera to come in, or a youth player to step up, and be an OT legend in 10 years time.

Looking good he hasn't started against Real Madrid

Tomr

He has 10 times the composure and technical ability of a cleverly and will distribute for us and can tackle and pass and has a good engine on him. All in all a major improvement on what we have.