Manchester United Rumours Archive August 20 2013
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20 Aug 2013 23:31:50
Eto to united 5 million
Rooney then to Chelsea 32 million
Eva then to olympiacos 8 million
Bains to united 16 million
Nani to psg 18 million
Followed by RONALDO TO UNITED 64 million
CAST IRON close reliable and il give you my word! It's a promise not a rumour
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Love the confidence and optimism by can't see it!
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So we are to have loads of goalscorers and defenders, but no midfielders to win and pass the ball - I think not hopeful poster
Mik
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Not even Ed Woodward knows the price we'll get/pay yet for players. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Dan
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This 'rumor' is like going to the dentist and finding out that he is out of novocain!
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It's not possible to predict a chain like that!
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Love the dedication but with all this transfer activity we still don't get a badly needed central midfielder
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Given the choice between Ronaldo & any CM on the planet I'd take Ronaldo. He's cover the CM deficiency easily. Hope this true confident one! I think there's legs in the Ronaldo rumors, or maybe it's just my heart!
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Nice to see David Moyes or Ed Woodward is a fan of this site!
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So all that money and still no central midfielder. Mmmmmmm
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Id love this to be true but i'm not so sure bringing in 50m then spending approx 85m? Not totally unbelievable.
This transfer window has been the craziest yet
If you're so sure about this . when will it happen?
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Utter rubbish, those fees are not even close
Eto is definitely not coming, and if Evra left it'd be to France. Or if you meant Evans, he's in our squad, signed a long term deal. If was to leave it'd be to an English club
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No centre midfielders? Sorry, very unlikely.
OT7
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As Etoo has confirmed he's staying with Anzi (agreement with the owner) i'd suggest your first point is dead in the water.
Also Rooney stays.
Ronny is coming home, but it won't be until next year as Utd will not pay £60mil to RM, when the agreement is for free in 2015. No price means Ronny gets his wage promise from Uts via Nike and GM
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Utter bell end, how can you cast iron guarantee six tranfers interlinked to each other to happen, give me a break!
Invisible STuey
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4 minutes earlier he has posted saying this "could" mean rooney is away. then seconds later puts a chain of events together in his head and writes it up as a cast iron agreement.
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No name above, how did you confirm Ronaldo be coming home after next year? Can you let us know who we will get until then and how we'd do in PL and CL?
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Sorry meant to post my details (not sure how this works)
The Ronny deal is complex. As everyone will know, Ronaldo was approached during summer by EW. Agent confirmed Ronny not happy and willing to leave RM if wages can be met. Utd have worked on sponsorships behind the scene to enable wages can be met (GM, Nike deals etc etc). Its complex because of FFP rules.
However RM are seemingly struggling financially (no payment for Modric still) and so need cash to buy Bale. With bales wages and new player wages (Isco, and others) RM can not give Ronaldo exceptional terms. Therefore the hope is Utd will pay £60M+ to bring him home. Option is now do we buy now or wait and get him for cheaper next year?
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Cast iron? Who is your source scooby-doo
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20 Aug 2013 23:26:21
Manchester United have launched a 5 million bid for eto, close reliable source, we could see Rooney leaving if this eto bid comes off
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Thought Eto'o was on a free but still rather keep Rooney tbh
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Why for the love of god and united we don't need him roo going nowhere we need midfield strength davieboy pay what clubs want and get fab and bubble head
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20 Aug 2013 22:37:08
Fee now agreed with Leeds for Scott Wooton.
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20 Aug 2013 20:31:08
United and Leeds have agreed a deal for Scott Wootton.
RDG
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One million bones.
Was always going to be sold this summer.
Sydney!
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Now we just have to find clubs for Bebe and Macheda. I'm not holding out much hope though. Always thought Petrucci could make it here but I think that boat's sailed unfortunately.
Dan
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Why do people click Unbelievable on a deal that's been confirmed?
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I never thought he was good enough. But maybe with regular football at leeds he may be a good player. goodluck to him
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Shame about Wootton. Always hoped he would have made it.
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I don't think Airbus Uk would want Bebe or Macheda to be fair lol
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20 Aug 2013 15:52:55
Expect CR7 as a surprise package now that Tott and RM are close to finalising Bale deal. He who laughs last laughs best. Up Manutd. for life.
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Hi pal.
Personally I don't see this as a surprise package.
I feel the reason we have had no activity is due to Ronaldo's return.
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My thoughts entirely Ronaldo home and 2 more signings too!!
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As highly as I regard Baines, I would still prefer Evra. Spend that cash on a creative midfielder or forward. LB not our priority.
Fraser
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Why not have Evra and Baines? Our being in Europe and the latter stages of domestic cups, means we can rotate.? Or are we thinking of our Dreamteams!. lol
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Dream ON
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20 Aug 2013 15:20:16
A lot of rumours saying Everton want £45m for Fellaini and Baines. With MU willing to offer £35m. So I think they will meet in the middle at around £40m. £23m for Fellaini and £17m for Baines perhaps? Seems fair.
Sydney!
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I don't think so. Fellaini had a clause of 23m so why offer this now, when we could have offered it before then. Moyes knew this?
Baines is not worth 17mil for a player with his age. £35 mil is the max we should go to.
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So £12 million more then our 1st bid? £23 million for a midfield bully with no ability to control a game, not exactly the summer we were hoping for!
£40 million would be better spent elsewhere, I know evra is on the decline but a midfielder that can set the tempo and control games is what we need to be spending money on and until we get that I wouldn't be picking up the phone to Kenwright ( and even if we did, I still wouldn't!)
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Sydney where did you hear United where willing to offer £35m? Nearly doubling Uniteds original offer seems a bit too much to me.
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Fabs, neither are my first choice, but they are Moyes' choices.
RedDub, the original offer was £28m, £35m is £7m more. That's 25% more, not 100% more my friend.
Sydney!
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Personally think £12 million for Baines is excessive. £17 million would be ridiculous. A lot of our fans get blinded by Baines crossing ability and don't realise he is as weak defending as Evra, if not weaker. Prefer Evra all day long
SC
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Syd when I said doubling our original bid I was referring to Everton suggesting the pair are worth £45m
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Interesting to read that Buttner's agent has said that Moyes told him that a transfer for Buttner is definitely not an option but perhaps a loan move away. Makes you wonder are we actually in for Baines? Seems overpriced for what it's worth. Also Evra has been playing well so far and seems happy so maybe we're after Fellaini and Barkley? No names have officially been mentioned so who knows.
Ozwald
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40million seems fair.? For those 2 players?
That's too much.
Personally 20 mill for fellaini MAX
and about 12.5 for Baines, otherwise spend elsewhere.
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All though Fellaini will improve our side and will hopefully take the place of Tom Cleverley I am really struggling with the fact that we are prepared to pay between 20-25 million pounds for him.
There are so many better players in Europe for around the same price maybe 5-10 million pounds more.
Simmo
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Sydney, I have to say I'm a little surprised at those valuations. No doubt we delayed far too long and prices rise the window goes on but I couldn't live with close to that amount.
Personally I'd value Fellaini at 20-22M and Baines at no more than 15M. So 35-37M is probably fair enough. You would surely have to add a premium for the late nature of the bids but 45M is far too much for me.
With the Bale deal seemingly all but agreed I think we'd be mad not to make a reasonable offer for either Modric or Ozil now. And by reasonable I don't mean the insulting offers that Ed Woodward seems to favour so far. :-)
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I think they are worth £37m personally, but to Everton they are probably worth £43m. So I think if Moyes wants to get a deal done he will need to pay £40m which I think is fair. Everton will probably be very helpful with the structure of payment too. I think it could be paid in installments as opposed to a lump sum.
RedDub, MU would have known the £28m would be rejected. Now they have got the ball rolling.
Oz, it has crossed my mind mate, but we badly need to replace Evra as defensively we are frail to say the least. Baines is much better at defensing than Evra ever was.
Sydney!
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17 million for Baines is a lot for a 28 yr old. Better younger players out there
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I personally would pay up 35 for the pair. I think Fellaini would do a sterling job in a DM role for us. He needs a foil though so I'd expect someone else to arrive too a more creative link. Baines is quality for me, much better & more consistent than Evra.
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I somehow doubt this. Why would we pay £23m for Fellaini now when we could have signed him a week ago for that amount and have had him fully integrated into the squad in time for the Chelsea squad?
Also; wasn't our initial bid for Baines £11m? If so I can't see us upping our offer by over 150% - nor can I see us paying that much for a player who is worth about £14m.
As I've said before - I'd rather we signed nobody than Baines and Fellaini - especially if it's for £40m!
redseven
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There's no way Leighton Baines is worth £12m let alone £17m. He'll be 29 in December and does pretty much what Evra does. Nothing else. As for Fellaini, he might bring a bit of physicality to our midfield so he could improve our team to some extent but he definitely isn't worth more than £20m. If Everton are asking for £45m for the pair, stuff them. We would be better off going into the new season with the players we have. People need to get realistic, we shouldn't get carried away with figures being bandied around by press reports or rumours. If we're looking at filling the leftback position, we're better off getting Luke Shaw for £12m. If we want to spend £22m on a midfielder, we can look at players such as Kondogbia (Sevilla) or Ander Herrera (Bilbao).
James.
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Just a thought - we know Evra can do an attacking job on the left as he was originally a left winger and we are lacking there so could he be switched to play in front of Baines? It would at least give us more options.
Nickel
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Baines is one of the best Lbs in Europe but he is error prone. Being at Everton he hasn't been under the spotlight as much as Evra, both are defensively naive at times. Still wouldn't argue against Baines. Not bothered about Fellaini I'd much rather have a Modric/Fabregas type of midfielder.
Dan
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Both good players but both possibly not what we need.
Baines:
Evra replacement - yes but 4yr younger be better
Fellaini:
Better Attacking Mid than he is Defensive Mid and its latter we need plus a 'creator'.
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God we do not need Evra to play on the wing we are already overloaded with underperforming wingers! If we are looking at Baines then surely Evra will be going otherwise what is the point.We already have cover and to my mind neither Evra nor Baines will fancy sharing the role with a world cup on the horizon.If we go to £35mil for the 2 and Everton say no then fine let them find another way to pay thier WONGA.COM loans.
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That sounds about right Sydney 35m is about right I don't get how people don't rate Fellaini he is maybe top three at what he does yes he is a bully yes he does not set the tempo that's Carricks job and is not the most skillfull player in the world but tell me a midfield powerhouse who can head the ball both ends like he can a midfielder with his back to goal link up play a midfielder that will make the opposition cringe every time they play him I think its long overdue a midfielder that can boss and bully the middle of the park we have plenty of creative mids and I do think Kagawa will benefit the most with the big fella and he can be as good a creative player as any he just needs a bodyguard all teams top teams need somebody to do the dirty work he can be the best at that and as for Baines he is the best full back in the country shaw may turn out better but he ain't better now or for at least two years so get the best now ala RvP style and we all know what he did for us. Katef
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Fellaini a midfield bully who can't control games?? Are you for real, he controlled us single handed in our last few outings against Everton
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Yep Feilaini cannot control a game, he's not the type of player who will set the pace or control the tempo by spreading passes and he is not even a great dm, he can't tackle for his life, he gives away a lot of free kicks, with his awkward balance and elbows!good target man good header of the ball but couldn't play technical football for his life!thats why I fear he could be used to replace Rooney, as it looks as though he's on his way!Its actualy sad that we one of the greatest clubs in the world would contemplate putting a bid in for him when we need much better quality!hes no better than what we have, squad player at most and a panic buy at that!
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Sydnwy I think you are being a bit generous. I don't think baines is worth 17m. Maybe £15m
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Fellaini IS worth in the 20 -25 million range. I would rather we went for Coentreo if we are to spend big for a left back, 17 -20million would get him and he's younger than Baines. Fellaini and Coentreo for 40 million and Modric for 30 million would see us look stonger. 2 midfielders are the real need. There's still Fellaini and one of Eriksen, Modric, Cabaye, Gondrogen etc. I think Sydney's valuations are good by the way.
Mik
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Everton have stated that they don't need to sell and with 2 weeks left in the window the prices for players change, in a way the balls in there court so they can ask for more if we really want them
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Sydney I can assure you we will not do a deal at 40 million as they are not reotely close to being valued at that number and if that is what everton wants expect both players to stay at everton.
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Are you an accountant Sydney you do love your figures? People slating Fergie for hsi value int he market. does anybody really think £40 is well spent when it doesn't even really improve our first eleven? I will be very dissapointed if this happens.
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£38m maybe our limit. Next bid of £33m, then £38m? I think £40m could happen if you include add-ons.
Sydney!
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Sydney
If we wanted to spend that much we could have had them in a united shirt a month ago. Whilst people have their opinions on players and their value, it is very hard to see how we can spend 40 mill on these 2. I think our limit is in the lower 30s and we will move on of we already have not.
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20 Aug 2013 15:18:46
Spurs has bought Willian and Lamela. They are going be a formidable title contender this season.
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Sorry left my name off. What are we waiting for? Everyone is strengthening what about us?
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Does anyone else find it disturbing that a team like Spurs is going out and collecting top, young talent from around the world while we, and our "war chest" are pursuing players from a middle-of-the-pack team? Unless Moyes has a major surprise up his sleeve, we will be finishing fourth behind City, Chelski, and Spurs!
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Has this been confirmed by any reliable sources yet?
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Rsirch01,
No, we won't.
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The thing is if all of this ends up with Ronaldo back everything will be rosey.I'm getting more and more disappointed and anxious and I agree with the original post 100% but I will wait until the windows over until I judge.I just can't see Ronaldo back but if you look and various quotes, rumours off some prominent journos who don't normally spout crap and the fact we are crying out for a left winger, a lot of the pieces do seem to fit.Not too happy with Baines and Fellaini but those two with Ronny back and all of a sudden that's a hell of a summer with a hell of a team.
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I think both will happen then bale will go to Madrid when spurs are done, after that we will go to Madrid and buy some players hoping Ronaldo but doubtful prob get some of the players who won't get in there first 11 but would get in ours :) lot of top players at Madrid will be happy with any of them :P
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Tottenham will only challenge when their back five are strong and they have serious cover in that department, if your making more than 3 signings and have still not improved your defence options then you will end up with l, pool clinging on to 4th place.
If Arsenal keep hold of Wenger then they will finish 4th.
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Last time heard goals won matches. If spurs do improve their forward line and mid without doing any major improvements to their defense I believe they'll out score most teams. They already have a great mid and if they add those two players then they have depth, creativity and strength.
It would be hard to break down their mid to get to the defense. They also have a great goal keeper in Lloris.
If Ronaldo alone comes it still doesn't solve our mid and that's where we're struggling. My biggest disappointment is that we don't want to spend the money other teams value their best players for. If we need x player for x position and x club says they want why amount why don't we pay why as long as it's what we NEED?
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I think Lamella may be hoping for champs league footy
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Highly unlikely both will happen as they play in the same position. Sounds like they are running parallel discussions for one to happen. Can't see them spending 55-60 million for 2 wingers, it is transfer window fever as they say:)
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20 Aug 2013 12:49:47
Rumours surfacing that Spurs have accepted £93mill & Coentrao for Bale. Surly it must be around £75mill & Coentrao!
Here's hoping its true & let the transfer "merry go round" begin
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This is a joke!
He's worth 60 million pounds at best!
What a sh**** piece of business!
I would immediately go for Ronaldo and Ozil!
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Trusted Italian journalist Gianluca Di Marzio tweeted it just over an hour ago! He also said that Spurs offered Anzhi £35m for Willian and that he is in London at the moment, if true then i'm going to laugh so much at liverpool fans who thought he was theirs, saying things like he's going to be the next Zico ;) haha.
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That price is probably in euros not pounds. If its in pounds then that's even more funny than I thought it could get, Real are a joke. Levy is laughing all the way to the bank.
Dan
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93 million and Coentrao? there must be a mistake, why would real pay for coentrao. very confusing post
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Fullback it says 93 mill and contrao for bale not 93 mill for contrao and bale!
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Di Marzio has tweet it is Bale for 93 and Spurs will buy Coentrao for 15. So it's 78+15=93 not 93+ Coentrao as he is incluided in the operation.
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Still even if it is £78 mil its f****ng insanity what is going on god forbid someone bids for Messi £12000000000,0000000000000!
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I doubt it. Will see how this pans out, more like 50-55 million pounds I say if this deal happens and the facts come out.
That would mean CR07 is worth 200 mill as bale has a long way to go to even be considered in that sort of league.
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20 Aug 2013 12:29:47
Well Bale to Madrid for 93M and Coentrao. hopefully Ronaldo gets pissed off with this and comes to us.
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20 Aug 2013 11:46:07
Rumour has it that Manutd tabled bid for Modrid a couple of days back and is expecting response within 48 hrs.
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If true that Bale is finally moving, then maybe other pieces will follow. Modric would be a good buy even though Ozil would be much better (wishful thinking). {Ed004's Note - Or Ronaldo would be the best ;)}
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Modrid wasn't he something to do with the Round Table?
As for Modric - It was widely publicised in the Press.
Spurs were looking to do a contra deal with Bale and money, but the player doesn't want to return to WHL.
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I'd be very happy with Modric, he's a lovely little player. As much as I like Ozil, I think Kagawa can play his role.
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20 Aug 2013 08:42:25
Any truth in these Eto rumours that are doing the rounds in the papers? If Sherk was to go and we brought him in on the cheap on a 2 year deal, this could be good business. Hernandez and Eto wouldn't be a bad back up brigade. Better then when we had Owen and berbatov!
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I hope not, 330grand a week I'd rather keep Rooney
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Et'o will want more money than Rooney as he's already the best paid footballer on the planet so the rumors state, so no it would not be good business.
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20 Aug 2013 08:27:16
Rumour has it that Manutd tabled bid for Modrid a couple of days back and is expecting response within 48 hrs.
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No truth in it. But perhaps they might be in for Modric?
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20 Aug 2013 07:48:48
Spoke to a friend who is involved with Everton and he told me they do not need to sell players so we can't expect that to be a factor when after fellaini/baines. He did say that they had expected bids for fellaini though and stated in his opinion fellaini may be moved on if Martinez would prefer to use the money for his targets. I'm guessing from that any fellaini bid would come down to Martinez decision if kenwright feels the amount is suitable
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Another made up story.
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Would Fellaini and Baines REALLY make that much of a difference to our first 11.
I am worried they only look good, because they are playing in an average Everton side. Would they shine at OT? I remain to be convinced.
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I would say average the ripped us to pieces at goodison last year I think there better than people give them credit for think they have just lacked match winners but that's changed now I was gob smacked when I saw they passed the ball more than anyone else at weekend that's a different approach now they have mirallas barkley baines fellaini all can win matches for them if there strikers can notch 50 goals for them then they could be top 4 don't underestimate them they are a team that look balanced and a threat and in barkley he could be stand out player this season in prem the kid is so gifted I have not seen midfielder like that for long time people say he is similar to Gerrard but I think he could be better he is better with the ball at his feet reminds me of Zidane but we are going to see a great player grace the prem
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I kinda got the impression from my friend that Baines isn't available (obviously an obscene amount of money offered could change this) however fellaini is a potentially viable sale. oh and no name who stated this is a made up story I can assure you its not but for blatantly obvious reasons I can't say who my friend is. I will say though that I have never posted any rumours on here before as haven't had the info but this time I could help out fellow readers of this site with valid info.
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