Manchester United Rumours Archive January 20 2012

20 Jan 2012 17:38:28
This window it seems we are most likely to bring in Crystal Palace's duo of Nathaniel Clyne and Wilfried Zaha, and maybe Jack Rodwell/Barkley....... Edd what do you think?? {Ed007's Note - Please not Rodwell!!}

Bond i'm surprised at you, all 4 would be good signings. {Ed007's Note - I honestly don't rate Rodwell that highly.}

I Think the Crystal Palace duo would be good additions they seem to enjoy playing together, they seemed to have a pretty good understanding of each other when they played us. More importantly they both look like decent talent. Clyne would be relatively cheap as he's outta contract soon, could sell him on for more if one of the twins cements the spot. Good competition will only make them player better!

Ozwald

Personally, I think we have enough cover at these positions already. Granted they are all good prospects (bar Rodwell), but dont we have very good prospects in these positions already?

Gar

None of those are good enough! We have too many average players as things stand, why bring in even more? We need top quality players who will make a difference now!
Besides, we already have our own youth comming through. Its better to get some experienced players instead.

Millz

We will not sign anyone this window
SC

I don't think we are or will be in for Zaha! Clyne yes. I would be surprised if we weren't atleast monitoring Barkley/Rodwell!

United Till I Die 1987

I hope for Rodwells sake he never signs for us, the lad would be up against it from the start. Some fans seem to think they know better than the likes of Moyes, Ferguson, AVB, Redknapp(who all rate the lad and tip him for great things) and would be on his back and expect wonders from him. The lads still young, tallented and could do a job all over the pitch for us. Id be more than happy if he arrived. For his sake i hope he goes elsewhere.

Why do people keep going on about rodwell, he isn't better than anyone we've already got or as good as , top quality players not average players we need

20 Jan 2012 14:14:31
Just reported on sky sports that utd more than likely to accept a half million pound bid from Roma for Morrison

Fergie very abrupt when asked about it - refused to comment - looks like Ravel (or his agents moe likely) bluffs been called and if he doesn't get some wise counsel soon then a promising career could disappear into obscurity and mediocrity

If he goes he is a bottler - running away to play for a mid table club in a league in decline instead of staying and fighting for his place and possibly standing alongside the likes of Neville, Scholes and Giggs as a United legend.....he is using money as a excuse - he knows when he looks around him in the changing room that if can do the job he will have wealth beyond what most ppl dream of. I dont reckon he has the heart (or balls) to stay and fight.

IrishRed

All i say is what ever fergie decides to do, will turn out to be the right thing. Look at Tevez, imagine if he hadn't sold him, we wud have been under pressure like man city. Fergie rocks!!

@noname

we didn't sell Tevez, he left for free.

He also went on to be a crucial player in City's rise to power.....a bad move letting him go IMO (specially considering we kept Berba over him)

TomBomb

Tom Bomb

Would that be the same Berbatov who was our top scorer last season, without which we wouldn't have usurped the scousers by securing number 19?

Just asking like.....

Red Rob

Tom B0omb we still would have had thse issues with Tevez though, would you have wanted him here sulking and throwing the toys out with all this homesickness rubbish? Disrupting the dressing room?

Read his twitter people. He will not go just media making a deal of nothing. He also stated about two weeks ago that it was either utd or barca that he supports. I actually miss sneijder rumours haha this is becoming boring

Neil

When asked if he wore a City shirt he said he would never wear any other shirt than a Barca or United shirt.

Sydney!

The interest from Roma is true! Can't see us selling to a PL side so Italy is a possible move. Imagine Ravel is stab central sorry Italy, the lad will be worse of in Iraly (criminally speaking)

United Till I Die 1987

20 Jan 2012 10:51:59
Ed - just wondering if you knew of any reason that Pogba and Morrison have never been sent out on loan (I stand corrected if they have) like Cleverly, Wellbeck & Beckham amongst others were? I think in hindsight it could have been beneficial to show them that the grass is not always greener...maybe its not too late if its first team football they are both after?

IrishRed {Ed002's Note - Given their ages the only chance they wopuld have had is this past summer. I have no idea if it were considered or not.}

Fergie stated a few months ago he wanted pogba to become comfortable at manchester after moving here at such a young age. i guess he wants him to feel welcome and at home at manchester united which would affect any decision to move away in the future in uniteds favour
andy89

20 Jan 2012 03:47:22
Glad to see some of the deadwood getting cleared out. I think even Park and Berbatov will be gone come the summer. We should probably even add Anderson on the "for sale" list come the summer imo. He has had his chances and hasn't convinced, and if there are to be any squad players, they should come from the youth system rather than bought.

The issue with Pogba, Morrison and supposedly Wellbeck as well is very sensitive. I personally believe United can reach a settlement between what they are asking for and what we are currently offered, especially with Wellbeck. We have never been the biggest payers in Europe, that has always been the case. But if anybody deserves a pay rise its Wellbeck, guy works his socks off every game, links up so well with all the players and having watched him progress through the ranks at the academy, i would hate it if we lose the best striker we have produced from the academy for quite a long time, over a 10-15k difference in negotiations.

Its different with Pogba, he hasn't proved himself yet and i think what he is being offered right now is fair, possibly additional performance related bonuses could do the trick. I believe he either needs to get regular substitute appearances or a premier league or maybe even a championship loan would do him a world of good, just like it happened with Cleverley.

Morrison, i don't think he is any sort of position to demand a better deal than what he is being offered. After all SAF, the whole United staff and the club in general have done for him, i think he owes us one. He should be training hard and trying to change his life around. If SAF feels he can't do that and is a problem, then let go of him, because i don't think he will develop at any other club with the kind of attitude he has. Barcelona? Learning spanish? The boy can't get the hang of English properly after all these years for god sake!

I can't help but think that all this contract madness is the effect of giving into Wayne Rooney's demands, but then again we should have had his contract done and dusted behind closed doors.

With all this turmoil about the contracts, one particular youth player and my personal favourite Ryan Tunnicliffe is quietly going about his business on loan, has got his head down and working hard. Where Morrison lacks in work ethic, Tunnicliffe makes up for it. If his development is carefully done, with maybe a premier league loan next season, or even being integrated with the first team now that we have cleared out a lot of space in the squad, he could develop into a very good midfield option with the kind of steel, leadership and drive we have been crying out for.

On a final note, i am astonished by the amount of fans who think it won't be a bad idea to sell Nani! Yes he is a bit inconsistent, but the options that are being talked about to replace him, are they even as consistent as he is? I don't think so for one minute.

REDFAITH

Correct, do not sell Nani.

Great post,well said,nice intelligent,sensible post!!

I think we will agree deals with all three of the youngsters. What they want and what we have offered is not worlds apart. It will save the Glazers a fortune in future buys and SAF knows he could use the cash he does get in other areas of the squad, so I think a common ground will be met eventually. Perhaps they will announce them all together. Wouldn't be bad to read Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison & Danny Welbeck have all agreed contract extensions on the yellow infobar on SSN.

I think people who want Nani sold are mental. He is better than all of the other players we have been linked too. He can go missing on occasions, but he is also a match winner for us and has proved that on several occasions. We shouldn't have to sell our best players to bring new players in, why not keep Nani and bring in another player? Players like Park & Anderson should be the one's who are offloaded for squad space, not our best players like Nani.

Sydney!

If someone came in and offered £30-£40million for Nani we would sell him......

Great post - agree with Sydney's ! point about Nani - but think Anderson should / will stay - needs to be played in the right position (more attacking) but Cleverly and Anderson for example was pretty dam good.

Mike

I think Anderson should be given til the summer, but the point I am making is why get rid of our best players when we can keep them and bring in more good players? Makes no sense to me why anyone would want to sell our best players? Even if they wanted Hazard or Bale instead, surely having Nani in the squad as well as Bale or Hazard is better than just Bale or Hazard?

Sydney!

Best post I have ever read on here. I agree totally with the comments re: Nani. He, along with Valencia and Young, are a frightening combination.

The club should do whatever it can to keep Welbeck, Morrison and Pogba. As someone also mentioned, these should be our back up players who are getting ready to take over. We have always done this at United. We always bring in youth. If we didn't give our youth players chances, then I am sure a lot of supporters would be very disappointed.

Let other clubs spend huge amounts on, albeit good, players, but where is the fun in that. I don't mean we should not strengthen the team with quality players from outside the club as and when they become available, as that would just be stupid.

We have always bought big in the past, our history shows that, but it also shows players who have come through the ranks and players whom have come to the club as relative unknowns and become legends.

When people start to moan about who we haven't signed, I think they need to look a bit more closely at The Wizard that is SAF, and say I trust him. I do, and hopefully a couple of silly boys will stop messing around and take a look at the likes of Giggs and Scholes. Then go to the museum for an hour. Take a good look around. Then ask yourself this? Why would I want to walk away from this??

Red Pedro - Still in dreamland. 19 is the new black!!

Agreed Syd, It would have to be a massive offer to dell nani and exactly who do we replace him with? Mort

Hi all,
Btw great post dude.
Syd I'm with you here, selling Nani would be nothing short of insane IMO. £40 million someone thinks we would sell? I think not. Not when the only players you might replace with with you would pay near enough that for anyway.
Anderson I agree should be sold.
WE NEED A CM THOUGH, A DECENT ONE!
Paulio

Agree with everything and dont sell Nani. Him and Rooney are our 2 matchwinners and dont tell me Rooney has been majorly consistent. Dont sell either and buy in. Anderson had his chances but also appears to be a crock so sell him while we still can I say!
Woffsta

Afree about Nani. Frustrating at times but without doubt the best wing man in the league.
What's with all the Ando bashing? Him and Cleverly were a breath of fresh air at the start of the season. Both have suffered bad injuries, Ando himself is just coming back from serious knee injury. When him and Clevs are fit and playing, i think we'll see a massive difference in out performances. Anderson will prove to be an influential player for us, when he is playing with the right people and playing in the right postion, namely NOT a DM. The kid was born to attack but has been shackled so badly in the way he is deployed. He's an AM not a DM/CM, and should be played accordingly. In my opinion anyway.

Of course we should keep Nani who else apart from Rooney can turn a game on it's head for us? Even if he doesnt manage that every game

Im not sure about Anderson, I'll be glad to see him given (another) chance between now and the summer but if he doesnt impress he should go. I understand what ppl mean when they say he should be played in AM as he seems more comfortable there but tbh he miss passes too often and isnt exactly prolific in front of goal! So would he add enough to the team effort in that position? We shall see...

Anyways great original post!
You actually made me optomistic again about our future having felt depressed for weeks with all the negative press and all

Thanks

Gav