Manchester United Rumours Archive October 20 2010

 

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20 Oct 2010 23:39:00
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Just seen Rooneys statement on sky sports news. Contradicting everything Sir Alex the lair said. Rooney knows we can't compete anymore. We are gone under this ragime. sir Alex the lair & the Glaziers must go now. dublin red.
DO NOT ACCUSE ALEX OF BEING A LIAR! you call yourself a Manchester United fan? its people like you that give us a bad name alex is the greatest thing that ever happenf to Manchester United we can't go accusin alex of anything he wud neva ruin us why would he? he built this club from a bottom half team into 1 of the best teams in the world remember all the trophies hes won? remember 99? we goota stick by alex gill and the glazors have 2 go and when rooney leaves and we don't buy a replacement 4 him there will b riots the glazers will have 2 sell up soon ed wud like to hear your comments on the situation at old trafford
THE HEMMINATOR

WELL SAID HEMMINATOR. NO TRUE MAN U FAN WOULD DESCRIBE THE MAN UTD LEGEND SIR ALEX FERGUSON AS A LIAR. HE MADE US INTO WHAT WE ARE AFTER WE WERE IN DECLINE FOR MANY YEARS AND BROUGHT US UNPRECEDENTED SUCCESS. WHY WOULD FERGUSON BE COLLUDING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING HE HAS SPENT 20 YEARS OF HIS LIFE BUILDING? DUBLIN RED YOU ARE A DISGRACE!
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20 Oct 2010 23:26:01
Disgusting behaviour from rooney. how would you feel if you were his teammates. he is not bigger than the team. he is playing s* t compared to the likes of nani, flectcher and berba. berba had it so tough these past 3 years but he stuck to it and even gave up playing for bulgaria to prolong and better his united career. that is dedicationa and respect for a club. he moved to united even though city offered more money.

however rooney when the going gets tough abandons the team. and good riddance i supported him throughout the world cup when he played crap. ok i understand we don't have great players atm but look at the privelage of playing with the likes of giggs scholes and van der saar. playing with the best cb in the world. vidic and also one of the best lb evra. he is playing under possibly the greates manager in history. so don't tell me there is no class at the club. don't tell me we are in no hope of challenging for trophies. we came 1 point behind chelsea last year and we played a few games with carrick and fletcher in defence. we won't sink like liverpool when rooney gets sold. we will live on and buy replacements. we may not win the league but i am damn sure we are gunna finish ahead of the scum next door. we arent finished remember that.

i think these will be the offers:
man s* * y=adebayor+johnson+20m
real madrid=benzema+diarra+15m or kaka+25m
chelsea=40m
bayern munich=robben+kroos+10m or gomez+kroos+20m
barcelona(doubtful don't need him)=pedro+20m or chrgnisky+bojan+20m
spurs=modric+huddlestone+15m
liverpool(doubtful)=torres for rooney

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20 Oct 2010 22:28:56
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Man u after jan Neuer. Evra vidic Ferdinand bale. Nani rodwell fletcher sanchez. Berbatov suarez

Dont bank on Jack Rodwell now. . .
Not because of the price but he will be put off by Rooneys decision and comments. The only way he will come is if Moyes is going to step into Fergies shoes. and as for Bale, No chance. .
SMF

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20 Oct 2010 22:12:33
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Man u after jan Neuer. Evra vidic Ferdinand bale. Nani rodwell fletcher sanchez. Berbatov suarez

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20 Oct 2010 22:01:21
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Sometimes theres only one way to get rid of bent manipulating american family clans. .
If you want me i'll be in the book depository with my rifle. .

20 Oct 2010 21:54:59
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TO SMF,
Well said, everthing you say is true, i would go as far as to say that Sir Alex the Liar is already planning to jump ship just before we hit the rocks. We will not get top four this season, we will not re-invest in squad and our club will implode coming on the horizon administration unless red knights or other group buy us without LBO. SMF has hit the nail on the head with his views and unless people who love MAN UNITED. Forget green and gold scarfs and actually take action against Sir Alex the liar and Glazers we are finished as an elite football club. Just as the scousers are getting there house in order. Dublin Red (speaking the truth)

20 Oct 2010 21:52:30
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Does Rooney know something that we don't know?? He would stay if he knew there would be big investment but he was given no assurances of this. The Glazers are bleeding us quicker than the scousers were bled and now we are to lose our most valuable asset ( after Ronaldo ) from which we are still waiting for the money from that sale! We willnot see a penny from Rooney sale as it will be spent on interest payments! and he will move to one of our biggest rivals for pittance. We are on the decline, predicted by a scouser last year and i hate to say it but he is right!

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20 Oct 2010 20:51:03
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People like you have their heads in the clouds, Sir Alex the liar is colluding with the Glaziers in the greatest money racket in the Premiership

Totally agree. Look at the facts.Fergie is money mad .Magnier had private eyes watchin him and his lad who was involved in agent fees for transfers to united. .no agents were allowed in Carrington. Jason Ferguson was.Sniffin up youngsters. Deal or no deal?
If Fergie doesn't buy big in January , then hes waiting for the yanks to top up his pension fund. .Moaning about Rooneys agents?Double standards. .
The two greatest clubs in English football have been Raped. Liverpool and Utd. The only difference Liverpools rapists have been caught and put away, now Liverpool are being counselled. .Utd are still being shafted. . .
SMF

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20 Oct 2010 20:13:11
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To the heminator,
People like you have their heads in the clouds, Sir Alex the liar is colluding with the Glaziers in the greatest money racket in the Premiership. All our money and your money heminator is going to the bank and the PIK's, unless people like you cop on and stand up like the liverpool fans did, we are gone as a force in the premiership and Europe, wayne rooney is leaving cause we are in decline on the pitch and off the pitch. We made 100m last year and posted losses of 83m with the ronaldo cash included, wake up before our club is destroyed. And Sir Alex the liar is oneof the main players in this scam. Ed please tell me what you think? Dublin Red. (Telling the truth, even if we don't want to hear it). {ed's note - the thing that worries me, as a football fan, is that the Glazers have run every business the same way. Buy it, make an initial investment to get it running well and worth a lot of money, then they load it with debt (like a bonds issue for instance) and run it into the ground.}

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20 Oct 2010 19:21:17
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During the world cup a certain Mr Cook scribbled out on a napkin and showed a Mr Noel Gallagher a Man City line up that Noel said was unbelievable. if these players were to sign. .Mr Rooney was one. I wonder if he was tapped up before or after the world cup. nevertheless it was before August 14th. Wayne then not 100% sure asked for reassurances that Mr Gill and Mr Ferguson couldn't assure. . .
Worrying times ahead.
SMF

20 Oct 2010 19:20:38
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Rooney to spurs with Modric and Bale coming plus 10 mil

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20 Oct 2010 19:11:18
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If rooney is leaving Manchester United because of no big star signing then why don't Manchester United just buy someone!? we have money to do it eg making losses of 80something mil but still spending around 25mil on players why not just buy someone for 20mil simples

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20 Oct 2010 18:56:42
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Rooney to go. So what you'll still win the League.

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20 Oct 2010 18:49:06
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"Ed i think that the glazers will reinvest if he leaves due to them loseing more season ticket sales tv revenue and champion league money if we don't finish in the top 4 so they will reinvest i think do you?? and btw darren bent to come in as px for 18 mil plus owen permanent and welbeck loan again then marek hamsik for 18 mil or swap carrick and 8 mil or if rooney goes for px hopefully we get benzema diarra and 10 mil or swap adebayor lescott and 25 mil what do you think ed maybe we cud snatch torres?? {ed's note - why would they lose money from Rooney leaving? It cost them nothing in terms of season tickets and TV revenue when Ronaldo went and he is a much much bigger star.}"

Ed, it's the same at Liverpool. If it came down to it, you would prefer losing Torres over Gerrard. That is because, as with Rooney and Utd, Gerrard is Liverpool. Torres and Ronaldo may be the bigger stars, but the other are the heart and soul of the 2 clubs. With Utd, if Rooney were to go, Utd would not have a prayer of competing for any trophy in the ear future. Hence, the loss in revenue. {ed's note - I would keep Torres every time mate. Gerrard is a walking ego and has too much power behind the scenes, plus he has not played well for 2 seasons now. Oh and Torres brings in more revenue than any other player at the club, lots more.}

20 Oct 2010 18:48:13
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Just seen Rooneys statement on sky sports news. Contradicting everything Sir Alex the lair said. Rooney knows we can't compete anymore. We are gone under this ragime. sir Alex the lair & the Glaziers must go now. dublin red.
DO NOT ACCUSE ALEX OF BEING A LIAR! you call yourself a Manchester United fan? its people like you that give us a bad name alex is the greatest thing that ever happenf to Manchester United we can't go accusin alex of anything he wud neva ruin us why would he? he built this club from a bottom half team into 1 of the best teams in the world remember all the trophies hes won? remember 99? we goota stick by alex gill and the glazors have 2 go and when rooney leaves and we don't buy a replacement 4 him there will b riots the glazers will have 2 sell up soon ed wud like to hear your comments on the situation at old trafford
THE HEMMINATOR

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20 Oct 2010 18:36:53
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Even if torres wanted to go to united you's couldnt afford him, the Rooney money will do exactly what the Ronaldo money did go straight to the books, you know what im saying is true.I would never write utd off with or without rooney.Yous will have to do something quick regarding the glazers, that green and gold scarf thing is pathetic.At least Liverpool fans done it with enormous pressure, you should take a leaf out of there book.
A football fan

@Liverpool fans done jack sh!t to get rid of the Americans, it was RBS who employed Broughton and Broughton that got rid of the Americans, like i said the Liverpool fans had nothing to do with the demise of Hick & Gillett.

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20 Oct 2010 18:31:37
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Rooney is going, there is no way back now. He will get dogs abuse at tonights game. His statement is interesting in that plays to all utd fans' fears: that we're skint and can't compete with the big boys anymore. Whilst we all probably know this deep down, he is still going to get accused of acting out of greed. With Colleen having an ill family member (sister i think) in the north west he isn't going to move far. City is looking favourite. And we won't have pots of cash to spend from the sale either. 20M is about the max I can see and Everton get 25% of that. Not a good day for Utd fans.

@Everton are not entitled to a penny of the Rooney fee!

20 Oct 2010 18:29:45
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20 Oct 2010 18:24:08
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Ed i think that the glazers will reinvest if he leaves due to them loseing more season ticket sales tv revenue and champion league money if we don't finish in the top 4 so they will reinvest i think do you?? and btw darren bent to come in as px for 18 mil plus owen permanent and welbeck loan again then marek hamsik for 18 mil or swap carrick and 8 mil or if rooney goes for px hopefully we get benzema diarra and 10 mil or swap adebayor lescott and 25 mil what do you think ed maybe we cud snatch torres?? {ed's note - why would they lose money from Rooney leaving? It cost them nothing in terms of season tickets and TV revenue when Ronaldo went and he is a much much bigger star.}

yes we did lose season ticket sales david gill daid so in interview with ssn and tv revenue we didn't lose because we reached top 4 which is lookin distant now and when ronaldo left we still had rooney but now both have basicly gne whos our next biggest asset berbatov our future is lookin bright :D

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20 Oct 2010 18:28:27
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Even if torres wanted to go to united you's couldnt afford him, the Rooney money will do exactly what the Ronaldo money did go straight to the books, you know what im saying is true.I would never write utd off with or without rooney.Yous will have to do something quick regarding the glazers, that green and gold scarf thing is pathetic.At least Liverpool fans done it with enormous pressure, you should take a leaf out of there book.
A football fan

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20 Oct 2010 18:24:08
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Ed i think that the glazers will reinvest if he leaves due to them loseing more season ticket sales tv revenue and champion league money if we don't finish in the top 4 so they will reinvest i think do you? ? and btw darren bent to come in as px for 18 mil plus owen permanent and welbeck loan again then marek hamsik for 18 mil or swap carrick and 8 mil or if rooney goes for px hopefully we get benzema diarra and 10 mil or swap adebayor lescott and 25 mil what do you think ed maybe we cud snatch torres? ? {ed's note - why would they lose money from Rooney leaving? It cost them nothing in terms of season tickets and TV revenue when Ronaldo went and he is a much much bigger star.}

20 Oct 2010 18:23:28
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Rooney is going, there is no way back now. He will get dogs abuse at tonights game. His statement is interesting in that plays to all utd fans' fears: that we're skint and can't compete with the big boys anymore. Whilst we all probably know this deep down, he is still going to get accused of acting out of greed. With Colleen having an ill family member (sister i think) in the north west he isn't going to move far. City is looking favourite. And we won't have pots of cash to spend from the sale either. 20M is about the max I can see and Everton get 25% of that. Not a good day for Utd fans.

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20 Oct 2010 18:12:11
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Just seen Rooneys statement on sky sports news. Contradicting everything Sir Alex the lair said. Rooney knows we can't compete anymore. We are gone under this ragime. sir Alex the lair & the Glaziers must go now. dublin red.

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20 Oct 2010 17:50:22
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Rooney was filmed driving out of his agents property just now, so they are planning something, whether its a planned statement to release to the public or maybe he has had one or two offers on the table already? {ed's note - myself I think he is going, Stretford would never try and persuade him to stay, quite the opposite in fact.}

Wow, as i sent that Ed, Rooney released a statement (FREAKY) he has just clarified what all United fans wanted to hear, he has left United as they lack ambition, Gill has told him that United will not be signing top players anymore.

But Ed if we are honest its only City & Madrid who can afford the top players so is he making a mistake? {ed's note - I think he made a mistake leaving Everton a year or two too early, now he is making another mistake by leaving United. But greed does that to you.}

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20 Oct 2010 17:39:29
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{Editor's Note: I expect that Rooney might well be persuaded to stay. I doubt that a move to Manchester City will happen and a move abroad for someone who struggles to speak English let alone a foreign language is probably not a viable option - maybe he could crash on Ronaldo's sofa for a couple on months. Chelsea is a very outside chance - Spurs as he could bring in additional advertising revenue. Maybe he could pack it all in and go in to movies (the new James Bond?}.

Rooney was filmed driving out of his agents property just now, so they are planning something, whether its a planned statement to release to the public or maybe he has had one or two offers on the table already? {ed's note - myself I think he is going, Stretford would never try and persuade him to stay, quite the opposite in fact.}

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20 Oct 2010 17:30:31
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""". .Pato is Cr@p, Suarez reminds me of Tevez and is just 23 so would be a good option, Benzema is also possible in a trade with Real"""
good day sir,
ngiak has some free time and would like to speculate.
lets look at our hand.
who is going within the next few months/end of the season
- rooney, vds, neville, scholes, giggs
- most likely hargreaves will retire
- maybe anderson, carrick, hopefully oshea and brown
wow, sounds like we are in a lot of trouble.
we will need a keeper, enough rumours on that one. but the cheap danish hopeful will be the pick, because he is the cheapest.
will the twins come good, and the brothers evans, with de laet? hope so for the defence
will we get defour and modric? please not gourcuff, lazy and acts like some superstar. no thanks.
ngiak rather have sanchez, not benzema or ibra - 2 of the laziest players he has ever seen. total opposite of rooney.
will macheda, welbeck, diouf, hernandez, cleverley, gibson (unlikely) come good please?
if things go well,
just a cheap danish keeper, defour and modric and maybe sanchez is all that's needed.
can rooney fund most of them?
gan

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20 Oct 2010 17:25:56
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R oonney going is down to glazier money swindle aided and hidden by sir alex the liar. they sent a message to wayne by leaving it so late in contract talks that we don't want you and we want a big fat transfer fee instead for the screaming bank managers. then sir alex the liar blames rooney in rehearsed bulls* t interview on our indepenant mutv channel. cheap replacement and us idiots will follow them . we are sliding down the pecking order . please ed your thoughts please.dublin red.

{Editor's Note: I expect that Rooney might well be persuaded to stay. I doubt that a move to Manchester City will happen and a move abroad for someone who struggles to speak English let alone a foreign language is probably not a viable option - maybe he could crash on Ronaldo's sofa for a couple on months. Chelsea is a very outside chance - Spurs as he could bring in additional advertising revenue. Maybe he could pack it all in and go in to movies (the new James Bond?}.

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20 Oct 2010 17:23:37
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Gross spends since 1992 - 2010

1) Chelsea - £563,340,000
2) Manchester City - £486,110,000
3) Manchester United - £419,350,000
4) Liverpool - £419,055,000
5) Tottenham - £383,550,000

Just 295k difference between what United & Liverpool have spent in 18 years, oh and 11 League Titles & one European cup more.

So would you trade an extra 295k for an extra 11 League titles & a European cup?

MUG!

Blair i think you have well and truly been put in your place! Goodnight!

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20 Oct 2010 17:21:17
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20 Oct 2010 16:55:05
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Rooney will definatly be sold, BUT beware he cannot just be sold to the highest bidder, hes in a position where he can choose where he wants to play, Barcelona have said the want him and exactly the same thing will happen that happened to liverpool with masherano, you can let a player rot on the bench for a season if hes wotrh 5 mill just to piss him off, this will not happen, he will go to barcalona for 30million and not a penny more, that will go to servicing the debt same as the ronaldo cash,
giggs and scholes will be gone next year, so its no rooney no giggs no scholes no ronaldo and that no 19 seems like a distant dream, and all you Manchester United fans are going to be doing is talking about your history, we won this we won that, and liverpool will still have the greatest history in club football,
YNWA Jaydee lolAwww is the scouser angry that his team got knocked out of the carling cup by Northhampton and are joint bottom. Atleast we'll have the 19th title before you t* ts

LUHG

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20 Oct 2010 16:59:49
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Affelay 6-9mil
Llorrente 10-15mil
defour 10-13mil
lindeguard 4mil
and maybe another striker unlikely though benzema/suarez/pato

what you think ed + i don't want aload of idiots posting in caps NO MONEY {ed's note - I think you are a bit hopeful on the price of Llorente, he will cost closer to 20m I would think, he is having a great season. Would be a great team, if you could get them, maybe the sale of Rooney could be as much of a boost to you as it was to Everton.}

Afellay is FREE in the summer as he is out of contract.
Llorente would sell for 18-20m maybe more.
Defour 10-12m
Lingaard 4m
Pato is Cr@p, Suarez reminds me of Tevez and is just 23 so would be a good option, Benzema is also possible in a trade with Real.

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20 Oct 2010 16:55:05
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Rooney will definatly be sold, BUT beware he cannot just be sold to the highest bidder, hes in a position where he can choose where he wants to play, Barcelona have said the want him and exactly the same thing will happen that happened to liverpool with masherano, you can let a player rot on the bench for a season if hes wotrh 5 mill just to piss him off, this will not happen, he will go to barcalona for 30million and not a penny more, that will go to servicing the debt same as the ronaldo cash,
giggs and scholes will be gone next year, so its no rooney no giggs no scholes no ronaldo and that no 19 seems like a distant dream, and all you Manchester United fans are going to be doing is talking about your history, we won this we won that, and liverpool will still have the greatest history in club football,
YNWA Jaydee lol

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20 Oct 2010 16:49:00
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If rooney leaves the only way i could see him joining man city is that if they gave us like 35mil + adam johnson i don't think he willl go to city unless man u got johnson off them i don't think he wants to stay in england anyway barca really don't need him unless they gave us villa for him and that would be a surprise but fergie was after villa in the summers anyway maybe madrid but i think mourinho is gonna be the next man u manager and he wants to rooney to stay that's why hes been saying he should etc one of the milans maybe? oh and i heard the reason he want to leave is because he wants 200,000 a week! ! i think that is to much even for messi!


if i was to choose players we would buy between now and next summer i would want

Llorente maybe 10-15mil very good striker

adam johnson 15mil unlikely but he is actually the only city player who i would want at man u bar given/hart when vds retires

affelay 4-6mil good cheap

defour 10-13mil fergie wants him and a very good midfielder who scores aswell as creates

holtby 6-9mil good left winger quick creative looks very good and i found out hes a schalke player on loan at mainz currently

lindeguard 4mil good and cheap and only 4mil if he doesn't do well we would be able to sell him at a profit anyway

benzema maybe part of the rooneydeal
vds_
oshea_vidic_rio_evra
nani_defour_fletcher_johnson
_ _ Benzema
_ _ _ _ _Llorente

swapping in the rest + current players ofc

more likely

affelay 6-9mil
Llorrente 10-15mil
defour 10-13mil
lindeguard 4mil
and maybe another striker unlikely though benzema/suarez/pato

what you think ed + i don't want aload of idiots posting in caps NO MONEY {ed's note - I think you are a bit hopeful on the price of Llorente, he will cost closer to 20m I would think, he is having a great season. Would be a great team, if you could get them, maybe the sale of Rooney could be as much of a boost to you as it was to Everton.}

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20 Oct 2010 16:23:30
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Posted my first post on this great site a couple of days ago and mentioned that i thought rooney should go, that he possibly wants out after contract negotiations were cut short, the club is greater than any one player- even mentioned who i would replace him with (Luis Suarez)-and would love Modric as well thinking about it- and was told to think before i post! Well, almost defo rooney will leave-Suarez scored again last night-Hernandez is not a quality replacement for rooney(yet), very surprised if Torres signs- have thought a lot about this post! !

@And its a decent post, i too believe Rooney will leave and we will sign Suarez, United stole Van Velzen from Ajax but quickly settled a price with the club when they never needed too as the boy was not under contract, i believe the deal was sweetened because United will be trying to buy a Ajax player in the near future, Suarez, Van Der Wiel, Vertonghen & Stekelenburg are all possible targets but i think Suarez will be purchased.

Modric is a quality player and now Spurs have VDV i believe they would consider serious offers. 20m would be a decent price and Harry would use that to capture a top striker. So Suarez & Modric would be great replacements for Rooney & Scholes, Mods could also fill in on the left if Nani is injured.

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20 Oct 2010 15:59:45
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Posted my first post on this great site a couple of days ago and mentioned that i thought rooney should go, that he possibly wants out after contract negotiations were cut short, the club is greater than any one player- even mentioned who i would replace him with (Luis Suarez)-and would love Modric as well thinking about it- and was told to think before i post! Well, almost defo rooney will leave-Suarez scored again last night-Hernandez is not a quality replacement for rooney(yet), very surprised if Torres signs- have thought a lot about this post! !

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20 Oct 2010 15:58:25
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Man u = 50m and rooney at city

us 2 buy ganso, bale, dzeko, rodwell or sanchez

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20 Oct 2010 15:32:01
From southern red in exile,
I have posted critically on Wayne's 'head' not being right for his paltry sum.

But am I the only person who thinks that any employee is entitled to move to a new employer, if hhe can do better?
Employers like MUFC also dump people.

Maybe Rooney wants a very good chance of winning trophies?
He has seen the talent going out of the club.
He sees that money out exceeds money in.
He sees and hears that Old Traffford is Cold Trafford
His manager played him v Munich when he was not injured.
Every man for himself world.

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20 Oct 2010 15:29:49
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* * THE ROONEY TRANSFER SAGA * *

The ball is firmly in Rooney's, and his advisors court at the moment. Everyone can speculate as to what is 'going' to happen, but everyone is clueless until Rooney makes a statement himself. The picture should then clear itself.

Here's my opinion:

I believe Rooney wants to say - but is being advised otherwise by Paul Stretford to go and get a better contract elsewhere (Stretford wants a nice big piece of the pie, and this is potentially Rooneys last big contract!). It was only in March Wayne said that he wants to stay at Manchester United for the rest of his career - so what's changed? Lack of investment/ambition? When Cristiano was sold to Real Madrid, did Rooney kick up a fuss then?? . . No. He always wanted to be the main man up front for United, so in some ways, I believe he was actually pleased that Ronaldo left. This Summer, it is believed that we tried to capture Snejider and Villa (in fact, we logged a bid to Valencia for Villa), so we HAVE showed ambition in bringing in the right players - so that scuppers that arguement.

However, I believe he WILL be sold in January (Yes, even though I've said he wants to stay), because I also believe, SAF has a replacement already in mind!

You really think that whilst Rooney was spending quality time with seamstresses, and inviting them back to the club hotels, SAF didn't know?? ?! ! Of course he did, he tracks ALL his players, and knows what they're doing 24 hours a day!. SAF had the best seat in the house to watch the start of Rooney's demise/problems.

Yesterday SAF said "I was bemused, shocked even when Rooney stated he wanted to leave". . I believe that he wasn't in all truth and it's just a PR stunt, and he and David Gill have been looking at the market all Summer. SAF is probably the best man in the business for playing the PR game, and using the media to his advantage - this is just another example.

We must trust SAF, and that if/when Rooney does leave, it will be for cash only (no player exchanges) and it will be to Manchester City.

I also believe that the transfer fund for Rooney, will be given to SAF to re-invest, and not be used to reduce the debt - it cant. United MUST have a superstar, a forefront of the United brand in order to stay successful in terms of global marketing, sponsorships, etc, etc.

Therefore I believe that the Rooney sale (say £40m - £50m), will bring in 2 (yes TWO) players. A striker, and an attacking midfielder:

For example:

Dzeko & Sanchez
Benzema & Ninis

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to hear Ronaldinho's name being mentioned soon. Why? {I hear you say} Great marketing value, SAF's belief in himself in being able to regenerating players (he'll feel he can re-capture Ronaldinho's old form). Perhaps Neymar (who Chelsea have been chasing).

Certainly food for thought!

20 Oct 2010 15:26:07
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If he does leave then i expect it to be in January for a fairly large sum of money, City will pay 50m for him, but i expect Fergie to do a deal with Madrid for 10m less, a player part exchange will be involved and the favourites to be involved are Lass Diarra & Benzema.

I fully expect to see Benzema at United come mid January, that is if Rooney is not persuaded to stay. There are plenty of high profile people who believe he will reconsider and Rio has said on Twitter that its for Rooney and the manager to sort out so i think he believes there's a chance of reconciliation. Personally i am not convinced.
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I agree with you. Ferguson's last little bit of control in this will be to try to convince the Glazers to sell to Madrid for less than City are offering, with Benzema being the reason. But Madrid might not be in too much of a hurry to do a deal until the summer. That is where a big cash offer from City will be hard for the Glazers to refuse in January. If Ferguson manages to get Benzema plus 10-15mil it will be a great bit of business. Ryan.

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20 Oct 2010 15:18:25
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{ed's note - I have to object to the use of Lawro as pro-LFC, he is one of the worst there is for putting the club down. The man constantly digs at the club for not being like it was when he was there. He is very much not biased towards the Liverpool of today - though I wouldn't have disagreed with the rest of your points regarding the BBC. I hate biased pundits and commentators - let's face it all of us provide our own bias, the pundits and commentators should be there to give a balanced and unbiased view.}

*Agreed ed, Am I right in assuming this is the same ed whom I conversed with about fans being blinkered at times? If people want to watch biased coverage then most clubs these days have their own channel. I do take your point about Lawrenson however, maybe in his instance I see more of an anti United point of view. He is very much TV's representative ABU in my eyes.

20 Oct 2010 15:16:49
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DublinRed, are u having us on saying robbie keane to replace wayne rooney. Im an irishman myself but i wudnt let robbie keane make sandwiches at old trafford. He has been irelands worst player in their last 2 matches and that is saying something considering some of the jokers in that team. Harry redknapp has realised he's second rate so why would fergie want him?

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20 Oct 2010 15:01:23
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Here's some info for this clueless numpty, did you know that Forbes value the Red Sox at $833m and 29% of the value of the Franchise is debt?

Only 29%, WOW that's fantastic bearing in mind you're in £750 MILLION in debt, I am having SO much fun at you demise, LOL

And you call me a numpty, how old are you, 5?

Why do you Mancs get so upset when people are laughing at you, you lot have been spewing your arrogance for years, remember soon all teams can only spend thier profits, after you lot we earn the most and yours goes to the bank, our futures looking bright yours is H*CKED. LOL

LONG LIVE THE GLAZERS

How stupid are you? You will not break even? You need Champions league football to get close to breaking even, even with Champions league football you will still make a small loss, so how can losses buy players you clown?

20 Oct 2010 15:00:51
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I have a question for RAINFISHTROMBONE as you seem to be the hardest campaigner on here against the glazers. Even with all that is going on, can you ever see the protests reaching a level that forces the Glazers out? Because I can't help but think that unless the players run out to 35,000 every week, the glazers will see any minor loss of revenue as acceptable.

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20 Oct 2010 14:16:34
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A comment that makes no sense you just sound like an Everton fan, i did'nt realise that bitterness started so early when a club is in decline, at least our troubles are over and yours are just beginning

The years ahead are going to be great fun for Liverpool and Man City fans as we sit and watch you fall, LOL

YNWA - Its beyond me why Liverpool fans think they are suddenly going to replace United in the top four, stop being so stupid, United will continue to finish higher than you in the league long after Rooney leaves.

As for Liverpool being debt free, think again, i have heard from a very good source that NESV have borrowed the money to buy Liverpool, not from a bank but they have borrowed the money from themselves which Liverpool will have to pay back, okay there is very little interest to pay a year as they loan has a 0.9% yield but Liverpool will have to payback the 300m plus 2.7m a year in interest. So Liverpool will have to pay the owners a percentage of the revenue regardless of being acquisition debt free.

Does this surprise you Ed or is this what you thought would happen anyway? {ed's note - it is standard business practice to do so mate, it was always part of the plan.}

I know you know Ed but some other Scousers on this site seem to think they are like Bayern Munich, DEBT FREE! Little do they know they are 300m in debt or the very least 237m in debt. Liverpool are still in a good position as the interest payments are so low but the owners will charge for fees & will want a percentage of the revenue to pay off the loan. and will want the 2.7m interest, so yes Liverpool will break even but they need Champions League footy first.

Ed SSN have said that the Glazers need ONE big asset at the club to be able to keep the global marketing going so this means the striker brought in has to be iconic, who do you think would be on the shortlist? {ed's note - that is if SSN are correct, they have been way off the mark on just about everything they have had to say over the last few seasons. It seems like the channel is mostly an advertising tool to create betting markets, instead of a genuine news channel. I mean what better way to stir up a frenzy of betting than to tell people a big name will be joining the club. All they have to do is sit back and watch the money roll in as United fans rush out and bet on who they think it will be. Who is it to say they won't use Nani as the fulcrum of the marketing campaigns? Though I do think someone will be brought in if/when Rooney goes, probably someone like Suarez.}

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20 Oct 2010 14:09:05
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Where does it say Blaire Main said this? And where does it say that you said the Glazers were not taking money out the club? Why do you believe that NESV want 10% back? They don't with the Red Socks, they just spent heavily and made them one of the best Base Ball teams in the USA, so stop guessing bo* ock and look at facts, your top players are either wrecks or want out, and all the money gained is servicing your HUGE debts and Man City and Liverpool fans are loving it and giving back all your bull sh*t that you arogant Mancs have been spewing out for years, get used to it because Man United are FU* ED! ! ! ! !

LONG LIVE THE GLAZERS

@Here's some info for this clueless numpty, did you know that Forbes value the Red Sox at $833m and 29% of the value of the Franchise is debt?? ??

This means the Red Sox are $241m in debt, did you know they pay the owners/investors a substantial amount and they pay the owners X amount of millions in management/admin fees? Don't be fooled into thinking you are debt free, you may not owe RBS anymore but you will owe NESV money, that is inevitable.

And before shouting your mouth off, you may need to know that you will only break even once you make the top 4 and i would say you are years away from doing that as there are 6 teams better than you in our league.

Sydney!

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20 Oct 2010 13:55:05
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A comment that makes no sense you just sound like an Everton fan, i did'nt realise that bitterness started so early when a club is in decline, at least our troubles are over and yours are just beginning

The years ahead are going to be great fun for Liverpool and Man City fans as we sit and watch you fall, LOL

YNWA - Its beyond me why Liverpool fans think they are suddenly going to replace United in the top four, stop being so stupid, United will continue to finish higher than you in the league long after Rooney leaves.

As for Liverpool being debt free, think again, i have heard from a very good source that NESV have borrowed the money to buy Liverpool, not from a bank but they have borrowed the money from themselves which Liverpool will have to pay back, okay there is very little interest to pay a year as they loan has a 0.9% yield but Liverpool will have to payback the 300m plus 2.7m a year in interest. So Liverpool will have to pay the owners a percentage of the revenue regardless of being acquisition debt free.

Does this surprise you Ed or is this what you thought would happen anyway? {ed's note - it is standard business practice to do so mate, it was always part of the plan.}

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20 Oct 2010 13:41:03
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Glaziers need to pay interest bills. Ronaldo cash last year kept the banks at bay. Rooney cash this year will do the same. What next year? Berbatov, vidic will be sold. Sir Alex the liarwill leave our great club inruins. Dublin Red

HAVE YOU GOT MENTAL PROBLEMS? IF IT WASNT FOR SAF OUR GREAT CLUB WOULDNT BE WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. YES HE MAY BE COVERING FOR THE GLAZERS. . I DONT KNOW BUT DONT START LAYING INTO SOMEONE WHO IS A LEGEND AT THIS CLUB!

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20 Oct 2010 13:25:43
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Wayne Rooney is just another Greedy git. This is what football has become though, full of greedy over-paid individuals with massive ego's.

Sadly, things won't change either. It totally bemuses me though what some of these players are really in the game for. I thought footballers played football because they loved the sport, getting paid to do it is a bonus. Now why on earth some of these players should expect to be earning £150,000 plus is beyond me, it would take the average earning person 5-6 years to earn that sort of money. Yes YEARS! Yet they want that for just one week.

It totally sickens me that I graft my balls off 7 days a week to keep a roof over our heads and feed the kids, yet these flash stars get mega bucks and demand more, they ought to go out and try and do days REAL work.

It really is about time a wage cap was introduced, and not at some ridiculous ammount, £40,000 a week is more than enough. Perhaps then we will get back to watching footballers playing football because they love the sport and not the money.

Things need to change and FAST.

20 Oct 2010 13:25:36
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Rooney to madrid in january in exchange for benzema , diarra and a dutch midfielder. If he stays great if not let him go and get some top quality replacments , also united will not let him to go to city the blue b£$%tards

20 Oct 2010 13:24:54
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This is thturdz speaking
all you mancs on here s* tting yourselves at the thought of shrek leaving so what hes past his best hes a f*cking liabilty take a good look at all his family and what they have in common the fat gene he can't keep the weight off always stuffing his face with takeaways as all his family do so what he will go for more money hes a greedy b* tard always has been him and stretford conived to do this as stretford took him from proactive sports management just like he stole him from his first agent when he was at everton its all about how much money they can make he couldnt give a f*ck about manu or the fans just like he didn't give a f*ck about everton all this s* te that fergy has looked after him bollox the only one to look after roony is himself and his agent hes just put two fingers upto to fergy and the fans once a scouser always a scouser wether your blue or red don't f*cking matter.

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20 Oct 2010 11:47:34
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SFA will not play Rooney again, so what do you do with a player who wants to leave, send him out on loan until you can sell him, it has to be done before he becomes a dressing room nihgt mare, do you play him against city, chelsea, the next CL game, he wants to leave so why should UTD (who have realy looked after him)showcase him, let him train with some one else, send him north to the SPL, let him know how much he has let the club and its fans down, show his prospective new club how loyal he is, or let him rot in the reserves, its time the clubs fight back against the greed of players.

@How can he go out on loan? You can only go out on loan during the transfer windows, but he will be on his way come January anyway. If he isn't sold in January and Fergie lets him rot in the reserves then Rooney will qualify for the Websters ruling, if Fergie continues to pick him on the bench but never play him then that is not a good enough reason to breach a contract therefore he cannot buy himself out of his contract using Websters ruling.

If he does leave then i expect it to be in January for a fairly large sum of money, City will pay 50m for him, but i expect Fergie to do a deal with Madrid for 10m less, a player part exchange will be involved and the favourites to be involved are Lass Diarra & Benzema.

I fully expect to see Benzema at United come mid January, that is if Rooney is not persuaded to stay. There are plenty of high profile people who believe he will reconsider and Rio has said on Twitter that its for Rooney and the manager to sort out so i think he believes there's a chance of reconciliation. Personally i am not convinced.

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20 Oct 2010 11:08:26
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Glaziers need to pay interest bills. Ronaldo cash last year kept the banks at bay. Rooney cash this year will do the same. What next year? Berbatov, vidic will be sold. Sir Alex the liarwill leave our great club inruins. Dublin Red

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20 Oct 2010 11:01:06
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Anybody think Van Persie can replace rooney? Dont no if wenger will sell or Wat wenger might value him at but worth a look. .any thoughts? CDS

Yes RVP would be an excellent replacement, NOT, the geezer is more injury prone than Darren Anderton.

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20 Oct 2010 10:49:02
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Anybody think Van Persie can replace rooney? Dont no if wenger will sell or Wat wenger might value him at but worth a look. .any thoughts? CDS

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20 Oct 2010 10:46:28
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Rooney is off to Citeh in a whopping 50 million deal.

Once a blue, always a manc. Once a manc always a blue manc.

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20 Oct 2010 10:37:39
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Ed - whilst I agree that clubs are going to have to tighten their belts financially in terms of wages offered to meet the UEFA Financial Fair Play guidelines, I suspect the ruling will have the opposite effect on transfer fees - wage budgets will fall so transfer budgets will increase and top players will continue to go for big fees when they have significant lengths left on their contract.

All of which is irrelevant when discussing City. Gary Cook and his cronies have no idea how to run a big club properly. If United want the best fee for Rooney, they should tell City that they won't sell him to them for less than £50m. City will pay the fee because of the kudos they feel it brings to them - to be able to tell everyone they took United's biggest asset and beat Chelsea and Madrid to a superstar.

The only other point I will make here - *if* Rooney does move to City and is paid the £500k a week that's being rumoured (and personally, I believe Cook would go for that for the reasons stated above) - then Platini and UEFA will move immediately to bring an end to this wage spiral and Europe's other major clubs will move to assist him (for once).

DarkLard08 - Darks its also inevitable that Tevez will leave on Rooney's arrival, certainly by the summer. Adebayor is also trying to leave the club so with City having Rooney they would lose Tevez & Adebayor and even Balotelli in a couple years time, Yaya will return to Barca in a couple years, Rooney has a problem ankle i think we can safely say, in every match he seems to be hobbling, and its not always the same ankle so i believe if United could get 40m for Rooney, 50m from City then i think we have done well. I believe we have had the best out of him, i was watching his goals as a youngster and he is far off that quality now.

There is still many professionals believing Rooney will have a change of heart and stay at United, i am not so sure but stranger things have happened. If United bought one marquee player i believe Rooney would stay, but the only way we would sign a marquee player is with Rooney's transfer fee.

Sydney!

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20 Oct 2010 10:29:12
Rooney will not be guns blazing, but shop windowing himself, the next three weeks in his life will be spent negotiating himself away from sfa, his advisers are already testing the water for his sale, manure have set the ball rolling with sfas interview.

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20 Oct 2010 10:03:55
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Ed - whilst I agree that clubs are going to have to tighten their belts financially in terms of wages offered to meet the UEFA Financial Fair Play guidelines, I suspect the ruling will have the opposite effect on transfer fees - wage budgets will fall so transfer budgets will increase and top players will continue to go for big fees when they have significant lengths left on their contract.

All of which is irrelevant when discussing City. Gary Cook and his cronies have no idea how to run a big club properly. If United want the best fee for Rooney, they should tell City that they won't sell him to them for less than £50m. City will pay the fee because of the kudos they feel it brings to them - to be able to tell everyone they took United's biggest asset and beat Chelsea and Madrid to a superstar.

The only other point I will make here - *if* Rooney does move to City and is paid the £500k a week that's being rumoured (and personally, I believe Cook would go for that for the reasons stated above) - then Platini and UEFA will move immediately to bring an end to this wage spiral and Europe's other major clubs will move to assist him (for once).

DarkLard08

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20 Oct 2010 06:14:16
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City are lining up a whopping 140m bid for rooney!

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20 Oct 2010 01:33:16
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So then why will Rooney only sell for 30m or less because of this new ruling? {ed's note - well no one knows for sure what will happen mate, but I believe that most clubs, as is already happening, will tighten their belts and curb spending. So prices will lower considerably as most teams won't pay the money, but one or two will gamble on being able to find ways round them or hoping that a big signing like Rooney will pay for itself in merchandise. That is why I expect Honda to be hot property in January, his shirt sales in Japan would cover most of the transfer fee and wages alone.}

Ed its only City who would have to find loopholes, everyone else is looking to play it fair and square. Ed as a Liverpool fan and knowing how good United are at their marketing strategies, are you a little worried United will swap Park for Honda? Parks hit 30 and looks a shadow of his former self, do you believe United will already be looking at him seems we need an attacking midfielder anyway? {ed's note - why would that worry me? It is not like it will be a swap, Honda would cost a lot more than Park will raise, if you spend money on him it will have to come from somewhere. If you are spending it on him, then you are not spending it on your other weak link - the defence. Fergie is firefighting at the moment, shoring up one area at the expense of another, all the while hoping that a youngster will come through and save him some money. How much longer can he keep it up? It is not like we are going to be fighting against you in the table either lol, you are not going to win it, but you won't be down where we are this season.}

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20 Oct 2010 01:19:34
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Ed he would never walk out on a free as 18 months is a very long time to play for a club that you do not want to be at, a club which fans will let him know how they feel. {ed's note - I agree mate, which is why I said the summer, meaning 2011 and not 2012.}

I knew what you meant Ed, i just though United would not need to panic as they know if a club really wants Wayne and Wayne is desperate to leave then the buying club will have to buy him asap or risk falling out with Wayne.

He will be desperate to leave and if City for example have offered him 250k a week to leave United and they keep him hanging then surely that will hamper his deal? Also if a team buys in January won't they miss the 2012 financial rulings? Isn't January the last chance for clubs to splash the cash? {ed's note - the thing is that the rules won't actually be enforced straight away, teams might gamble on finding loopholes or even abolishing the rule by the time they are due to take effect.}

So then why will Rooney only sell for 30m or less because of this new ruling? {ed's note - well no one knows for sure what will happen mate, but I believe that most clubs, as is already happening, will tighten their belts and curb spending. So prices will lower considerably as most teams won't pay the money, but one or two will gamble on being able to find ways round them or hoping that a big signing like Rooney will pay for itself in merchandise. That is why I expect Honda to be hot property in January, his shirt sales in Japan would cover most of the transfer fee and wages alone.}

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20 Oct 2010 01:13:16
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Ed he would never walk out on a free as 18 months is a very long time to play for a club that you do not want to be at, a club which fans will let him know how they feel. {ed's note - I agree mate, which is why I said the summer, meaning 2011 and not 2012.}

I knew what you meant Ed, i just though United would not need to panic as they know if a club really wants Wayne and Wayne is desperate to leave then the buying club will have to buy him asap or risk falling out with Wayne.

He will be desperate to leave and if City for example have offered him 250k a week to leave United and they keep him hanging then surely that will hamper his deal? Also if a team buys in January won't they miss the 2012 financial rulings? Isn't January the last chance for clubs to splash the cash? {ed's note - the thing is that the rules won't actually be enforced straight away, teams might gamble on finding loopholes or even abolishing the rule by the time they are due to take effect.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:58:50
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I have to disagree, i think he will sell for between 35-45m. City would have to pay a minimum of 50m. Real Madrid will offer Benzema plus 20m. {ed's note - we will soon see, but I have a feeling he won't leave until the summer, he certainly won't fetch anything like 50m then.}

Ed he would never walk out on a free as 18 months is a very long time to play for a club that you do not want to be at, a club which fans will let him know how they feel. {ed's note - I agree mate, which is why I said the summer, meaning 2011 and not 2012.}

20 Oct 2010 00:53:47
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Or less purely because of the money issues at his club. They might well be forced to sell for what they can get and January is not a time for big money to be spent.}

Ed how much do you think Rooney will sell for? {ed's note - £30m, maybe even less, prices have dropped due to the new financial rules, teams are trying to get prepared for them.}

Ed how much do you think Torres will sell for? {ed's note - probably around the same amount. Depends on when he goes, things are so unsettled at Liverpool it could be January or it could be in 5 years time.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:49:01
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At least benitez told the truth re the two texans at liverpool sir alex the liar helping the glaziers pillage our great club we are going into decline just as scousers are about to take off dublin red. 650 mil in debt

20 Oct 2010 00:48:45
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How much do you think Aguero would realistically sell for Ed? {ed's note - I think he might end up going for £20m or less purely because of the money issues at his club. They might well be forced to sell for what they can get and January is not a time for big money to be spent.}

Ed how much do you think Rooney will sell for? {ed's note - £30m, maybe even less, prices have dropped due to the new financial rules, teams are trying to get prepared for them.}

I have to disagree, i think he will sell for between 35-45m. City would have to pay a minimum of 50m. Real Madrid will offer Benzema plus 20m. {ed's note - we will soon see, but I have a feeling he won't leave until the summer, he certainly won't fetch anything like 50m then.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:42:50
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{ed's note - Podolski is a great shout too, a lot of people are talking about him coming to the EPL, I think he would be almost perfect for the league.} well i wouldn't mind either bents top finishing or podolskis pace power and left foot ability which most teams don't have i think hamsik or defour will join aswell tho as fergie did aproach for both in the summer personaly i would prefer to see hamsik he looks good what you think ed? {ed's note - I haven't seen enough of either Hamsik or Defour to be entirely sure. Both have impressed me when I have seen them though.} ed iv thought of another possible striker not many people would bring up lopez from lyon or muller from bayern as strikers or arteta or danny as central midfielders what do you think ed?? {ed's note - is that Lisandro Lopez? I can't remember who he plays for off the top of my head, but if so I agree he is possible. I thought Muller was a midfielder myself, I seem to remember him playing there for Germany, but he looked excellent for his country if we are talking about the same player. I really don't think Arteta is quite good enough for a title challenging team, good ability, but not quite that good in my opinion. Is Danny the Brazilian that did play for CSKA? I can't seem to remember what he was like, so I can't give an opinion on him.

@Suarez, Aguero, Benzema & Neymar are the four players i would welcome with open arms. They all tick my age/potential/sell shirts boxes.

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20 Oct 2010 00:32:18
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How much do you think Aguero would realistically sell for Ed? {ed's note - I think he might end up going for £20m or less purely because of the money issues at his club. They might well be forced to sell for what they can get and January is not a time for big money to be spent.}

Ed how much do you think Rooney will sell for? {ed's note - £30m, maybe even less, prices have dropped due to the new financial rules, teams are trying to get prepared for them.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:24:25
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Were heading for mid table, no money to spend, Alex is gonna retire after helping Gill and Glaziers destroy our club we are finished as a top 4 club & free transfers is all will be doing. Alex must go now or else his legacy will be tainted by collusion with the Glaziers policy of swindling our money. dublin red . ed what u reckon? {ed's note - I think Fergie is in the perfect situation for him. He can't lose, if he keeps the club challenging for titles he will be seen as a miracle worked, if he doesn't everyone will blame the Glazers and his legacy will stay untainted in the main. I do wonder if he still has what it takes to do the job.}

20 Oct 2010 00:23:38
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Manchester united transfers

marko marin is fergies top target and a great replacment for giggs 15mil is his buy out clause

ninis is a great passer of the ball and united have been linked with him on numerous occasions he has a 10mil buy out clause and would be the ideal replacement for scholes

now when rooney leaves who will replace him?

1. forlan- too expensive and too old big wage demand also

2. dzeko- could be a good player for united 25mil great aerial precense great great header

3. luis suarez great player good goal scoring record good replacement for rooney

4. dark horse fernando toress better than rooney but he seems to loyal to liverpool. but also i thought rooney was loyal

5. aguero great player hard working and scores plenty of goals

6. well knowing sir alex and united financial situation i won't be suprised if know one is bought in. chicarito and berbatov could be leading the line! !

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20 Oct 2010 00:21:09
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{ed's note - Podolski is a great shout too, a lot of people are talking about him coming to the EPL, I think he would be almost perfect for the league.} well i wouldn't mind either bents top finishing or podolskis pace power and left foot ability which most teams don't have i think hamsik or defour will join aswell tho as fergie did aproach for both in the summer personaly i would prefer to see hamsik he looks good what you think ed? {ed's note - I haven't seen enough of either Hamsik or Defour to be entirely sure. Both have impressed me when I have seen them though.} ed iv thought of another possible striker not many people would bring up lopez from lyon or muller from bayern as strikers or arteta or danny as central midfielders what do you think ed? ? {ed's note - is that Lisandro Lopez? I can't remember who he plays for off the top of my head, but if so I agree he is possible. I thought Muller was a midfielder myself, I seem to remember him playing there for Germany, but he looked excellent for his country if we are talking about the same player. I really don't think Arteta is quite good enough for a title challenging team, good ability, but not quite that good in my opinion. Is Danny the Brazilian that did play for CSKA? I can't seem to remember what he was like, so I can't give an opinion on him.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:14:41
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First of all i would like to say im not a Man United fan but I have been told from an agent that Fergie will let Rooney leave. He believes there are other areas where he needs players and he will need the money from his sale. He believes Hernandez will be Rooneys replacement and sees that Scholes replacement is the important position to fill within the team as Anderson has failed to do so. The player Fergie wants for this position is Sneijder. Aguero is also very high on his list but he wants to monitor his performances closely over the next few to see if he would be able to adapt to the english game.

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20 Oct 2010 00:12:07
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THE PHENOMINAL ONE {ed's note - Bent is a good shout too, though I am not sure he is quite good enough for a title challenging side. The reason I suggested Aguero is because he has the workrate, the power, the pace and the ability to be a huge success here. Plus his club are in a bit of trouble for money and have to sell someone, they are not in a position to reject offers of cold, hard cash. I don't see you having enough left over from the sale of Rooney to buy Hamsik or Defour if you buy Aguero, so yes maybe your plan is better, I was just purely thinking who would be the best like for like replacement for Rooney.}

@Bent is not title challenging material, he misses far more than he scores, and the majority of his goals are tap ins and penalties. Aguero would cost around 25-30m as he is out of contract the same time as Rooney 2012.

How much do you think Aguero would realistically sell for Ed? {ed's note - I think he might end up going for £20m or less purely because of the money issues at his club. They might well be forced to sell for what they can get and January is not a time for big money to be spent.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:09:25
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"Everything every one of you reds say or do needs to be focussed to change things. Accept things as they are and say hello to 1970 again.

Redman"

Absolutely spot on, Redman. Watching Fergie today, he looked defeated. To me, it was the face of a man who had banked on Rooney getting him through the next 2 or 3 years in the hope that finances would then improve, the purse strings loosen and the club could move forward again. I've been critical of Fergie's recent decisions here but it upset me to see him like that after everything he's done for us. The game is up and he knows it.

I do feel Fergie could have done more to resist the Glazers or stand up to them in public but I'm sure he chose not to because he felt it would damage United more if he did do so. And this is how he's repaid - losing the bright and brilliant young stars who rejuvenated him just when he thought it was time to call it a day. And who goes next? Vidic? Nani?

It is time to draw the line in the sand. We need owners who understand the need for long-term investment and who aren't just going to leach hundreds of millions of pounds out of the club to cover their lack of business capability elsewhere.

We need change. We need investment in the team. Most of all we need owners and a board who are going to be honest about the prospects for the business they are running - instead of just passing us off with the same old flannel and expecting us to be stupid enough to believe it (note: plenty of you are).

Eras end. Times change. But it should be because of the ambition and ability of those who are trying to emulate you, not because you've surrendered yourselves.

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20 Oct 2010 00:06:43
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{ed's note - Podolski is a great shout too, a lot of people are talking about him coming to the EPL, I think he would be almost perfect for the league.} well i wouldn't mind either bents top finishing or podolskis pace power and left foot ability which most teams don't have i think hamsik or defour will join aswell tho as fergie did aproach for both in the summer personaly i would prefer to see hamsik he looks good what you think ed ? {ed's note - I haven't seen enough of either Hamsik or Defour to be entirely sure. Both have impressed me when I have seen them though.}

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20 Oct 2010 00:01:56
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Next few days will be very interesting though.

YOU ARE JOKING AREN'T YOU MATE? THIS MESS IS GOING TO DRAG ON TIL JANUARY 31ST. EVEN IF ROONEY SIGNS A NEW DEAL TOMORROW THE PAPERS WILL STILL SAY HES GOING TO CITY IN JANUARY.
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I wasn't joking. Nor am I looking for bragging rights with another United fan. And I do take your point about the papers speculating.

Having said that, I think Ferguson's interview earlier confirms that this is all coming to a head this week, not in 15 weeks time. He clearly is unsettled by the prospect that City might offer really silly money for Rooney in January, and the Glazers might be tempted to take it. That would undermine his authority to a point where it may accelerate his departure from Old Trafford.

20 Oct 2010 00:01:27
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19 Oct 2010 23:49:21
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ED DO SERIOUSLY THINK AGUERO IS THE MAN TO REPLACE SHREK IF HE GOES?? I THINK DARREN BENT CUS HES A PROVEN GOAL SCORER IN THE PREM PLUS WITH MORE ASSISTANCE AT UNITED HED IMPROVE AND HED BE ABOUT HALF THE PRICE I THINK 18 MIL PLUS OWEN PERM N WELBECK LOAN I THINK THATS WHY BRUCE HAS SIGNED GYAN CUS HE KNOWS BENT IS TOO GOOOOOOOD FOR THEM AND THEN SIGN HAMSIK OR DEFOUR WITH REMAINDER OF CASH?? WHAT DO YOU THINK ED?

THE PHENOMINAL ONE {ed's note - Bent is a good shout too, though I am not sure he is quite good enough for a title challenging side. The reason I suggested Aguero is because he has the workrate, the power, the pace and the ability to be a huge success here. Plus his club are in a bit of trouble for money and have to sell someone, they are not in a position to reject offers of cold, hard cash. I don't see you having enough left over from the sale of Rooney to buy Hamsik or Defour if you buy Aguero, so yes maybe your plan is better, I was just purely thinking who would be the best like for like replacement for Rooney.}

i agree he would be the best like foir like replacement but i was thinking bout proven goalscorers in the epl which is wht we lack i agree bent might not be at that standard but he scores goals and causes trouble in the box or maybe podolski he might be cheaper aswell? what you think ed? {ed's note - Podolski is a great shout too, a lot of people are talking about him coming to the EPL, I think he would be almost perfect for the league.}

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