Manchester United Rumours Archive August 21 2011
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21 Aug 2011 23:10:57
If Adebayor is going for free then he is definitely a striker Fergie should be looking at He'd give us something a but different up top in those tough games when it's hard to break a team down I think if Adebayor knew Manchester United were interested he would force a move there We do need a quality midfielder or two though. Personally I'd like Nasri or Modric and M'Vila or Sissoko That would be a brilliant squad and one I think could battle it out on all fronts
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I agree that he may be worth having for nothing but I think Fergie doesn't like the player.
We prob could have got him from Arsenal when we needed a striker but he's certainly not interested in him.
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Pretty sure Fergie enquirer to Wenger a few seasons a go mate? I could be wrong though?
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Damn sure city wont give him to us on a free durrgghh
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Couldn't agree more, Adebayor is one of the best around in my books, like you said he's different to the options we've currently got, he's strong, quick great in the air, two good feet, I think his only problem would be his attitude although he has seemed to of grown up the past year.
I wouldn't say no but I wouldn't hold my breathe either.
The Moon.
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Adebayor would be a good shout for free no doubt.... I like the sound of Nasri and Sissoko, that would make a brilliant squad then.... HERBIE
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On his day he's different class and unplayable, but didn't his agent contact SAF and beg him to move for him just before he went to Citeh, but we were not interested?
ajk
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Ajk - I think his agent got in contact with United and Chelsea before he moved to City.
Matthew...
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Get a grip lads, he is a pain in the @rse and his wages are ridiculous. Keep him.
Sydney!
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To be fair Sydney Tottenham are managing to offer him wages he is accepting and we can offer more than them so can't be that bad?
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Man s**tty are never gonna allow a player worth millions to join us on a free, that's just nonsense
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The man was born offside.... if we could get him on a free and with wages of < 100k then maybe.... maybe.
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On his day he can be very good, but what about the other 364 days of the year, where he is generally a bag of fertilizer (cant believe the amount of people agreeing he would be a good signing?)
Invisible Stuey
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Spurs can't afford their wages, City are paying a certain amount of them until his current contract would end at City if he stayed there. e.g he is a three year contract (I don't actually know how long his contract is) then City pay some of his wages for three years
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21 Aug 2011 21:37:54
Let's face facts guys,
Players who sign for city just want money
Players who sign for us want success ,
United usually scout players for at least a season before signing them
Be patient signings WILL happen before the end of aug
Red jimmy
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If you think City players will not acheive success you are deluded. They have unlimited funds, this has never been seen in any professional club sports in the world before. They will buy success, that is inevitable.
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Yeah I can't get my head around this money/success City/United mentality either.
City are duty-bound to be successful because of all the money spent.
They will win one of the big 2 trophies in the next 3 seasons as they can buy it.
I'm actually surprised that it's taken them so long to get it together and that they haven't already won more.
How much have they spent? £300 million?
Pritpal
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I really think Chelsea are still more bigger competition than city... Citys biggest flaw is there manager is way to defensive even against small teams they are not a team that are still trying to score 2 goals they just try protect there lead... It's great having all these great players but none are hungry enough to many want to be superstars how many times have we seen arguments on the touchline or read about them in their training ground... Until they can get a manager to cope with thiese problems they won't win league or champions league I don't even think they will make it to quarter finals this year
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So i guess you didnt see the BOLTON V CITY game.
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Red Jimmy, players sign for us for success and money. There are very few actual players who are born and bred united in this world. Every other player will go to the best paying team - same as in any job. If you were a neutral player, would you go to united for 100,000 or go to city for 150,000? I'd go to city... City are the new Chelsea - they will win things.
J Bones.
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Red Jimmy, you are a typical deluded United fan. I have supported United all my life but I (like many others) accept that players have joined us for money (quite recently Ashley Young and Phil Jones). If you were offered a contract from a different company doing the same job but for twice your current pay, you wouldn't say no. So stop saying that City = money because it doesn't anymore. They are going to win things, accept it as a challenge
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21 Aug 2011 21:05:06
Alarm bells
"We looked at Aguero but didnt even get close to signing him"
Sir Alex in effect admitting we can no longer compete with City.
Red Man
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Can anybody compete with city in terms of money? i dont think any1 can. {Ed007's Note - Ed002 can, I've seen her bank statements.}
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'Red Man'
No one can compete with City in the transfer market, debt or no debt. But they can only buy so many players.
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Maybe PSG or Malaga, not sure how much their owners are worth though.
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Red Man - No one can compete with them. If a player is looking to move to a club solely for money then he'll go to City. It's as simple as that. And to be honest, can you really see Aguero sticking around for long? He'll be a Real Madrid player within 18 months.
Matthew...
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It's not news Red Man. We cannot compete with City financially, but for now we have SAF. That will be enough in the next 2 years, but what happens after he retires? That's what some regular posters on here, the armchair glory hunters, do not wish to highlight. We cannot continue to compete for trophies in the longer term with the current ownership. It will be impossible.
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Do you Ed's actually know each other, as in met face to face? I'd like to think there is some sort of Footballrumours.com Ed's xmas party. Does this happen, please tell me it does??
Scaramanga {Ed007's Note - We do meet up for special occasions but it is difficult for me and 002 to be in the same place with her work. We knew what we were getting into when we got married but the English Eds meet up for games etc and me and my wee honey try to catch up with them all as much as possible. We are trying to arrange an LFC end of season party on AFs birthday at New Year, but it might be difficult.}
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Sydney
Financially noone can compete with a club where money has no value. However if SAF has identified a player and admits we didnt even get close that has to be a concern.
Payments for setting up bonds and annual interest are taking important players beyond us.
You are right, City can only buy so many players, however, if SAF has only 1 target and it is bought by City he has a history of not moving on to the next best option.
In the circumstances there is a need for adaptability by SAF , going for the next best option but SAF will have to change to do it.
Red Man
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Even if we were a debt-free club we couldn't match City in the transfer market, but the FFPR will get us closer as long as FIFA stick to their guns. United along with Chelsea held talks with Kun's agent and we offered him a package. He declined it. Aguero is a very greedy little man, a talented player, but very greedy.
He will be on wages of around £250k a week plus huge bonuses. I imagine he would have received a huge signing on fee too. We could never match that, we probably offered him around £160k a week to play for us. Chelsea & Real Madrid would have offered similar deals. They are obviously more complex packages than that, but I guarantee City offered twice the amount us, Chelsea or Real Madrid offered.
Sydney!
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Why should we compete with people who will eventually lead their club into the abyss?
Just because other people walk before the green man, it doesn't mean that you should.
If you are sensible, you will get to the other side intact and pity the fools who have to be scraped off the tarmac with a shovel.
Pritpal
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I think Ageuro's wages & buy out clause at Athletico has made the move a none starter for most clubs apart from sugar daddy clubs.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over it as you just get players who are purely financially motivated which will never give you sustained success.
Look at the dressing room issues clubs that throw money at the squad have, you end up with mercenaries like Adebayor, Tevez, Bellamy, Anelka, Robben, Bogarde. There is even rumours coming out of City that important players like De Jong & Richards feel undervalued in comparison to their more superstar team mates.
Anyway Ageuro would only serve to stunt the growth of Chicharito.
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21 Aug 2011 21:01:31
A 'busy' summer isnt 3 signings. Two more to come in, we were forced into the Jones deal, we will be forced into the Rodwell deal as well as he will be off this summer and we will be going for Nasri as well.
EJ
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Why do people keep saying this year hasn't been a busy transfer window? When David Gill said it would be a "busy summer" he didn't say we would be signing 10 new players did he? He was talking about players going out as well as coming in, and i would certainly say that signing 3 first teamers, along with the players that have gone, has been United's busiest turnover of the first team squad players for quite some time. And remember there is still time for one or two more to leave and one or two to come in, if the deals are deemed to be worthwhile. I think some people confuse the transfer window with their game of Football Manager.
Andy B
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We were never really forced for Jones. SAF saw him play against us and liked his hard work so he wanted him.
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But a 'busy' summer does include the sale of nearly a dozen players
Jerv
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I wouldn't say that it's been very busy.
Players retired but how does that constitute being busy?
Three have come in but that was all done ages ago and we still don't have another flippin' midfielder
We still haven't got rid of Gibbon, perhaps no-one wants him.
Please SAF, pull your bleedin' finger out and sign a healthy, capable, ball-playing midfielder.
Pritpal
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Mate, Rodwell won't be coming to Utd. It was always going to be Jones or Rodwell.
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21 Aug 2011 20:25:10
If Fergie isn't going to start Berba when Hern is hurt why is he not trying to sell a player who only has a year left on contract and try to recoup some of that money. PSG are in for him.
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The club still has an option to extend Berbatov's contract by another year if they want, so in effect he has two years left on his contact, that might be why there is no apparent urgency to sell.
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21 Aug 2011 20:10:49
I wouldn't be surprised if Fergie brings in another player.
He's very good at keeping a lid on his transfers and doesn't come and say id like to buy him etc like some other managers do.
I personally think we are that something special in midfield as at times we look briliant and other times we look average and sometimes leaderless.
It would be great to have keane back in his prime as he is exactly what we need, however we all know thats in the past.
We definately need a midfielder who can pick the midfield and team up by their collars in some ways its a shame Rooney can't play in midfield but really its a waste of his talent if he was played thier.
As always in Fergie we hope.
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21 Aug 2011 19:31:20
Nasri defo going City and Mata deal agreed in principle with Chelsea look who getting left behind in the transfer market again. what a s**t transfer window AGAIN.
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Deffo agree after the initial transfers in the summer very disappointed with our lack of inactivity in the window. Might challenge for the league but deffo nothing else.
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These are done deals. We are actually going to see a few more deals in the next 10 days as teams finalize their shapes for the next 6 months.
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Weve spent the best part of 50 mil and our squad is still the best in the PL...
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And we got young and jones. young is in his prime and savage, while jones is a superb defender with gr8 potential. give sir alex a break. think of what hes done and how hes done it. IN SIR ALEX WE TRUST
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You say left behind in the transfer market "AGAIN"???? How did we get left behind last year, we won the Prem and was in the Champs League final, hardly getting left behind mate.... HERBIE
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Agree completely with u united has not signed a world class player in years barcalona has improved their squad with fabregas and sanchez an united have cleverly and fat andy in the middle just not good enough
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Are you for real50 odd million spent already,jones looks brilliant,young has made a great start and looks very hungry 4 success,de gea has made a nervous start but people in the know sing his praises,theyve obviously tried something with sneijder as well,which may yet happen,,trust and believe,do u genuinely believe we're falling behind the other teams?
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And will continue to be left behind for the forseeable future.we are not going to be able compete for the top level players ,end of ....andog
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Stop your wineing Isn't 50 million enough for you? We've got a great team granted perhaps a CAM may help but mata wouldn't be the answer SAF knows what he's doing Believe it or not
Or do you think you should be manager? With your obvious years of experience in the transfer market
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Give me a break We won the league, were in the CL final, bought some quality players, have Cleverly playing well, what more do you want??
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Totally agree not improved the starting 11 at all got a weaker keeper lundergard much better keeper what I have seen of him should have sold evans not o Shea. We need a world class cam just buy sneijder and pay him is £200.000 aweek rooney on £250.000 aweek
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We have got weaker lost scholes and VDS got a sub jones for £18 million Young looks good but dont we already have 2 right footed wide men and we are weak up front beyond rooney and chico. oh and fool last year we got left behind as we missed out on Wes Sneijder then and silva and ozil and we will pay the price for that this year. We cant even persuade Nasri or modric to join us and we won the league last year. We will finish 1st or 2nd but with city adding Nasri to their squad how can we compete in midfield
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I come on here most days in the transfer windows and have done for a while. All I see are the realists and the sheep.
Yes we have been the best english team for almost 2 decades but this dominance will come to an end if we don't do something with the midfield. We won the league by default last season, everyone was pretty awful and we were just the least awful. We were severely embarrassed by Barca (much worse than in Rome in my opinion).
There is certainly no crisis yet but SAF cannot keep using the same old excuses for not investing in a world class player who will also help the youth to develop. The transfer market has changed dramatically and we just have to accept that. We have bought 3 good players but I'm sure many of us expected something more. I think we just need that 1 more top class man in midfield.
I don't think it's fair that some of you shout down anyone that dares to question SAF. We are all Utd fans and all want the best for our team but we should all be able to express our opinions without having sarcastic comments thrown at us.
Yes there may be some dreamers that play football management games but I see a lot of sensible posters who are accused of being L****pool fans or that they think they are better judges than SAF. Stop being sheep and have a little think about what is happening at Utd.
We have been spoilt but why shouldn't we want that to continue. We want to remain on our perch
Rant over, come on you reds
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Everyone can spend what they like, we build for the future. Utd 4 life
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21 Aug 2011 18:57:11
Looks like Nasri's head could be turned alright.
But, to be honest. I'd be very happy with Sneijder too, as his passing and vision are second to none, and he's got ALOT of experience which is vital, especially for the CL.
But he's got to realise what it means to wear the shirt. Football reasons should over ride any financial reasons. If he wants to lift trophies there shouldn't be an issue. Simple.
Would love if we had this sorted by next week so we can crack on with lifting number 20.
MUFC.
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"Both Manchester clubs are interested," Wenger said. "I've always wanted to keep hold of him. I think deep down he is happy here. There is no departure of Nasri at the moment," Wenger told French media outlet TF1.
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It,s not gonna happen this transfer window . the manager thinks the young players coming though will be good enough for the season ahead . all we need to do is compare our central mf to the likes of barca ..... enough said
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21 Aug 2011 16:52:29
After watching s**tty can't help but to think that our team would be complete with Silva and Aguero. what a complete side we would have even enough to run Barca close. After missing those 2 we must sign Nasri would blend easily in there with our attack and midfield. Mario Goetz would be just as class come on fergie pull ur finger out
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Yep fergie needs to get the finger out and get that cmi think nasri would b a fantastic addition,but i still c him as more of a wide player,he comes in from the flanks alot,im not sure hes what we need at the momentgotze or sneijder would b my choice.
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I'd love a raid on Dortmund for Kagawa and goetze and offload nani would end up costing us maybe 10 - 15 million for that little bit of business we could still sign nasri to all in all 35 mill for those 3 players in xchange for nani too great business
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21 Aug 2011 14:56:05
Modric wants to stay in London and favours Chelsea. There is no chance of him coming to United.
Nasri, I expect to see playing at City when the transfer window shuts. He would've been a great signing for United but there was no "official" interest in him.
Sneijder... I can't see him coming either. The story has dragged on through this transfer window and I expected. When SAF offered him a contract, Sneijder wasn't prepared to take a pay cut to join us and for that reason I can't see him coming.
Looks like Cleverley and Anderson will be playing alot more this season for us.
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I love how you chose to believe certain paper stories over others, basically how do you know we even offered anything to sneijder? There was never a formal bid for him, just wait and see, has fergie ever really let us down?
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Well yes by bringing in players like,djemba djemba,veron,obertan,bebe,tiabi,bartez,kleberson,owen,tosic but to name a fewi know hes the master but He has made some mistakes along the way,and i think hel b making a huge mistake if he goes with the same squad he has nowwe aint strong enough to ourselves a chance to win league n champions league
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The offer was there. It was offered to him when Gill went over to Italy while United were in America during their pre-season tour.
The plan was to snap up Sneijder and he was going to fly over and join the team in America at the time.
Fergie had a little row with somebody from the media who started off these Sneijder rumours right from the start.
Fergie blamed the media as to why Sneijder didn't take the contract offer. There's a video on youtube of the row, I'm sure of it.
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21 Aug 2011 14:05:55
Why is Gary Cahill so over-rated?
I would take Jagielka over him any time.
MUMBAI_BOY(will the real Indian team please stand up)
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I wouldn't say he was over-rated. He's a good player in my opinion.
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21 Aug 2011 13:58:24
is it a sign that sneider will sign on monday?
www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=37212&L=en
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SAF offered him a 5 year deal worth £140,000 a week and said take it or leave it now. Sneijder wasn't prepared to take a wage cut to join us so he left it.
Now it's too late. SAF has guaranteed Cleverley alot more playing time at Old Trafford this season.
We've already spent £55 million on De Gea, Jones and Young. I don't think SAF will spend £35 million on someone he doesn't really need.
Yeah, Sneijder is a good player and it would be nice to have a player of his quality in our team but I just can't see it happening now.
He should of took the offer when it was offered to him the first time.
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Not going to happen now. Sneijder had his chance and blew it. SAF won't go back in. First impressions and all that...
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21 Aug 2011 13:50:50
Really hope we sign a CM soon . like the look of that lad Ross Barkley wo played for everton yesterday looks to have good potential. would love to see Mario Gotze at OT the Season sign him keep the young blood coming in
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21 Aug 2011 12:41:34
Hey Syd, or anyone else, please can u give me a site where i can stream the utd, spurs game please.
Thanks,
Phoenix Smith {Ed002's Note - www.soccertvlive.net/}
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Download a small programme called sop cast and use a site called Asiaplate football. Runs a lot smoother. Use a vga to connect to ur tv and your away
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21 Aug 2011 11:52:52
well nasri is not going to city coz he played against liverpool .benzema is not coming
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I expect Nasri to join City before the 31st of August.
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21 Aug 2011 11:55:03
hi we might close the deal with snider on dead line day
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Hi might close the deal with van nistelrooy on dead line day
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Hi think I might have a curry and watch
Sky sports on deadline day, oh and some
Tins.
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21 Aug 2011 10:14:49
Nasty deal OFF Expect a bid from united very soon
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That rubbish its not of it delayed that what wenger likes to do
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God your grammar is almost as bad as your interpretation of AW Anything can happen in football and don't be surprised if he ends up at OT Also it's not AW holding things up it's the agents Get it right
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It is delayed not off.
For some reason Wenger has decided to sell him to City and nobody but City, guess money talks.
All will become clear by the Udinese game, if he is not in the squad then he will be at City by the weekend.
Sadly I believe our cheque book is shelved for the year.
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21 Aug 2011 08:34:03
Reading the rumours / discussions on here it seems we can take our pick from Nasri / Modric or Sneidjer. Why do people just assume they all want to come to Utd, Modric has clearly stated Chelski is his choice, no mention of us should the Chelski transfer not materialise. Nasri is supposedly close friends with Evra, so if he really wanted to join Utd don't you think the deal would be done by now if Fergie wanted him, he is still in talks with Citeh. And now for poor old Wesley, stuck in Milan on around £250k a week, he has allegedly agreed to take a pay cut of around £40k a week to join us, bless him, not sure how he will keep the bailiffs away. He can't play this week for personal reasons, is it another Berba saga coming up, who knows, but Inter say they won't sell. So, far from taking our pick it seems as if nothing has changed as if Fergie really wanted either Nasri or Modric he would have made a move already.
Some will point to our usual last minute deals, but normally the transfer target is well known to everyone, so it seems Sneidjer out of the three is the only one likely to happen. Personally I think at 27 he is not worth the investment and would rather see Fergie continue with his building for the future and look at Ganso / Goetze or the like.
If people think that spending big money guarantees success look at Real Madrid and Citeh, both have spent 100s of millions in the past couple of years and they have both only won their domestic cup competition.
Will we sign anyone, time will tell and we should just trust Fergie, after all his recent record of 4 EPLs in 5 years and 3 CL finals in 4 years ain't bad.
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Actually modric never ruled out man utd, we just didn't make an offer because he was "not for sale" where as chelsea just made an offer no matter what. There has also been reports in france that nasri said he would prefer a move to the red side of manchester but we never followed up our interest. Lastly, we all knows sneijder would like to be playing football at old trafford.
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I think your wrong in saying sneijder aint worth the investment,this guy is a manificent footballer at 27 he is at the top of his game and could give at least 4 years of quality to our team not to mention the lift and presence tuition he would give to the younger lads coming throughyes there is a fine line between having to much experience and putting to many premadonnas on the one team,but theirs also a weakness in having too many youth players in the on one team,with little experience,especially when are unproven youngsters such as cleverly,welbeck and pogbai wouldnt say real madrid,barca, are not unsuccessful teams and dey all have quality players right the way througheven if they dont win the finals or come 2nd in the league,theyre always up their competing,their always threat,because of the players theyve gotlook at city,they won the cup and came 2nd in the league because of the players theyve got.i dnt believe in the massive amounts of money paid for players,but dats football,nowadays,with the right mix of quality youth and experience,you can b sucessfull,just as saf has should over the yrs,but i realy dnt think we have that in the middle this yr
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Good post, Fergie is the difference between United winning the last few leagues and not anyway. His presence lifts everyone and it's down to him that United are where they are. If Arsenal had got him back in the day it'd be them where United are now. United will win the league this year, with or without that dutch mercenary. They'll not win the champs league even with him. Long live Fergie.
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We would have a much better chance of winning it with sneijder,then we would without him
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21 Aug 2011 00:10:58
What is happening with the Nasri deal Ed? I thought it was all but done.
REDMOZ {Ed007's Note - It is Moz, just the payment structure, Arsenal have forced it on with playing him.}
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20 Aug 2011 23:06:50
according to daily mail SAF will make 1 final attempt to sign WS next week. Inter Milans official website says "WS has pulled out of training due to personal reasons" and that he will nt be "available" for sundays game against Olympiakos.Its lookin more and more likely that WS will end up playing his football at OT. keep fingers crossed. i hope he joins.
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