Manchester United Rumours Archive August 21 2013

21 Aug 2013 14:00:26
Couple of sites saying interest has
turned to Luke Shaw.
Younger than Baines.
Baines not too far behind Evra age wise
so money Everton are looking for is
a bit high.
Still at this stage I expect we will be
linked to everyone and anyone.

Hasn't Shaw just signed a new deal?

Is there only me who wants to give fabio a crack at it. He was considered the better of the twins when they arrived so if he managed to reach the heights of rafeal we'd be sorted for a long time for full backs

19JackC94

Fabio looks almost as good, or at least not far behind Rafael when he plays on the right but never looks as comfortable and composed on the left. Would love to have Fabio as good on the left as Rafa is on the right that would be immense.

Ozwald

Yes, just signed 4 year deal which finally shut up the Chelsea fans. Don't know how many times both the player and our Chairman have to say he's not leaving before the penny drops with some people. I'm as certain that Shaw will not be sold as I am that United will not be relegated!
SaintGazza

Southampton fan here, Shaw signed a 5 year deal on his 18th bday 2 weeks ago

Take it from me we wnt sign anyone and be lucky to finish in top 4 we need 2 midfielders that's a must

Fireman10, how can you say we will struggle to finish in the top 4!
I know a lot of teams have bought players and improved their squads but how many have really improved their 1st 11. Other than spurs I would say nobody in the top 4, and spurs will be without Bales production this season (26 goals, numerous assists) which any team would miss.
Quit being so negative and get behind your team. We have a ton of good young players coming through and a new quality coach.
Utd will challenge for the title

Agree with fireman10 on this one, I ave said before we won't sign anyone, it's almost like the board don't want to trust DM spending aload of £££££££s and are waiting to get a season out the way.obviously that's extremely unlikely but does seem strange

Alman

Alman would that be the same board who elected to recruit DM to replace SAF we are only interested in signing players that will improve the squad

Did say it was unlikely. Just that's how it appears, and yeah the did elect him but they had to elect someone. And under what terms do we know?

Ozwalds got it spot on that Fabio plays best as right back. I think he is right footed and if i'm right it would make sense as then playing on the right means it is more natural when tackling/crossing etc. I know that most players should be able to use both feet but their is sometimes a marked difference in quality (I.e Ashley young/beckham/valencia etc are so much better using their right foot instead of left)

21 Aug 2013 12:54:21
Ronaldo and Eto'o to fill the 7 and 9 shirts respectively? Seems possible to me if Rooney leaves
I see strikers in a similar mould to each other in Welbeck and Eto'o and I think Welbeck could learn a hell of a lot about his end product from Eto'o what do you think?

There is no way we would pay Eto'o wage demands

What would Eto'o teach Welbeck that RVP, Rooney and Owen cannot?

If he lowers his wage demands. He is still quality, quick and would score plenty at Utd

Owen?! C'mon Mumbai_boy! Is Mumbai really that far behind in the news?! ;)

Eto is class and would do a great job like Larrson did in the twilight of his years and he is the perfect fit won't get in the way of young players like Keane and Wilson for to long as he prob only has two seasons at this level left and he could teach Danny a trick or two Katef

21 Aug 2013 11:49:31
So United have pinched a youngster from City. Gabriel Fernando is a highly regarded 16 year old CAM originally from Sporting Lisbon. Was offered scholarship from City, but has been training with us all week and snubbed them. Youngsters can clearly see that they are never going to get senior game time at City. That's why their highly rated Denis Suarez wants out too.

Buttner looks set to move to Besiktas. Not sure if it's a loan to buy or just a loan. Benfica were also interested.

Scott Wootton has joined Leeds which is a good move for him. Deal apparently worth £1m. Good luck to him.

Plenty of clubs trying to get Larnell Cole and Nick Powell on loan. Wigan would be a good move for Powell.

Adnan is about to sign a new five year deal according to the media. That is something I am desperate to see happen after missing out on Pogba.

Seems PSG are back in for Nani. Injured at the moment, but I am sure the club would consider a bid in the region of £12m-£15m. I think £8.5m is ridiculous and would rather let him leave for free next summer.

Sydney!

If buttner is leaving does that mean evra is staying even if we do sign a lb
Jred

But how many youngsters really break through at our club?

Melwing28

Around one or two a season?

That would be as rediculous as Utd offering £28 million for Fellaini and Baines?

The Irish Rover

I said some time ago that I can see Evra and Buttner/Fabio being sold with Baines coming in. I think it will be very difficult to accommodate both Evra & Baines, but not impossible. I think the club will want to sell Evra if Baines is bought, but it would be difficult if no one wanted Evra. He will be cheap, but his salary is high. Not sure what will happen, but it's clear Moyes wants Baines after bidding for him twice already.

Sydney!

Good info Syd. I am a great admirer of Powell and hope the loan does him even more good than it did Cleverly.
Melwing, I think quite enough young players break through at utd. It may depend on what we mean by young and break through, but welbeck, cleverly, evans, fabio and rafael.

If Buttner's agent is telling the truth (don't see why he'd lie) then any move away from the club at the moment would be a loan so he can get playing time with a chance to play for Netherlands in the WC. Moyes told him a sale is completely not an option.

Nick Powell looks set to go on loan to Wigan IMO, championship football regularly is exactly what he needs but when is he actually fully fit?!

I hope we give Adnan a good chance to play in the first team this season.

Ozwald

Syd but you have been going on about evra leaving for a couple of years now and yet he's still here.
you would think if we sign baines ( not sure we will) evra would leave however it's looking that buttner could be the one to go .
Evra is vice captain seems to be a big voice in the dressing room not sure the club do want to sell him to be honest.
I also don't think we will get rid of both buttner and evra
Jred

People need to realise that you can't bring through a group of players such as Scholes, Beckham, Neville, Giggs etc every generation.

I think Powell going on loan will be good, and it shows that Moyes is making room for a new signing. Looks like it's Fellaini or Moric.

I have only said I believe Evra will be sold if we bought Baines. I believe if we had bought Baines last summer then Evra would have been sold. If we sign Baines this summer I think Evra will be sold. I cannot see them both being in the same squad. That is my opinion.

Sydney!

Good info frm Syd but Guys what has happened to the (gems) players on clear out at R/Madrid has it died out

All this info is from the media. Just putting in a nutshell.

Sydney!

But Nani will dig his heels in. He seems determined to stay.

Dan

Dan, he seems determined to run his contract down. Cannot believe we could have collected €27m for him this time last summer.

Sydney!

We couldn't have collected that Sydney because he didn't want to move to Russia.

I know, that's my point :(

Sydney!

Personally I think that if buttner does go it will most prob be a loan, and that we won't be going for baines again. I think who ever comes in will be young and be back up for evra for a year (when evra will most likely return to france) before fighting with buttner for the lb spot, I don't think fabio is good enough there. my picks for lb would therefore be willems or preferably shaw who could pick up for 10m

as for powell, it does seem wigan are in for him but I would not rule out him being used as part of a deal to get fellaini, although personally I think a move to newcastle could be the most benificial esp with cabaye leaving (and yes I do realise they don't play the same role)

as for nani, anyone who has read any of my previous posts will know I can't stand the guy, like rooney, he ruins a lot of good build up with either poor decision making or losing the ball, and I firmly believe we should sell both of them

dags

21 Aug 2013 10:01:28
A lot of reports that United will look at Shaw if the baines bid fails.
Personally I think it should be the other way round

I agree Jred, it should be the other way round, but it's not going to happen sadly. Shaw is destined to replace Cole at Chelsea.

Sydney!

Totally agree jred

Agree completely.Could be our left back for the next ten years.Probably cheaper than Baines and he is ready now.You could always rest him for Fabio or Buttner too due to his age.Lets get some youngsters playing again, some excitement.Don't send Januzaj on loan, ditto Powell, play them and Zaha too.

I can see why we're being linked with Shaw as he is an outstanding talent but, like Syd!, I expect him to go to Chelsea in 1/2 years time. They had a £4 million (+ add ons) deal rejected in the January transfer window and that was before he signed a long term deal at Southampton so he won't be cheap, £15-20 million IMO in a couple of years time.

Baines is a decent full back but he's not exactly young and, like Evra, is great going forward but suspect defensively.

Would he be a massive improvement? I would say not really especially when you take into consideration Evra's personality both on and off the pitch.

On the pitch he comes across as a leader, of which we don't have many and off the pitch you never hear of any trouble coming from his personal life such as wild nights out, hookers etc. that may disrupt a team.

Add to that that Baines isn't much younger (29), so I think we should be looking at alternatives.

However, if we were to bring Baines in I definitely wouldn't see it as a step backwards but I wouldn't see it as a step forwards either.

#ags

Yeah I really like look of them kids, give them game time and learn from the best than sending them out to silly teams

Apparently Shaw has a buyout- clause in his new contract for around £10 million so I think he def be worth it considering his age and he could an understudy to Evra for the next year as I couldn't see baines moving and sitting on the bench for most of the season

Moose

Buyout clause of £10M! Sorry Moose but you obviously have absolutely nil knowledge of our chairman and not much more about Luke who's been with us since age 7. He's a Chelsea fan and Sydney! and ags are much closer to the mark. If he continues to progress at the same speed you are talking Balesque monies.
SaintGazza

Dream on we are not a selling team any more we won't be a feeder team 4 anyone grow your own talent we have the best academy in the country just remember the stars that we have grown look over your shoulder the saints are coming
skatehater