Manchester United Rumours Archive February 21 2012

 

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21 Feb 2012 22:27:09
{Ed022's note - for those of you who don't know, myself and fellow Ed's have recently created a Player Profile site, giving you fans information on players your club is linked with. A brand new one has just been uploaded on Javi Martinez who has been heavily linked with Manchester United. www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.

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Had a look, is really useful - thank you very much
Mike

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Happy that its got Matt Phillips on it :) He comes from my home town.

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21 Feb 2012 16:38:47
Becoming more and more frustrated with the people that think Gotze is a CM. He plays in the hole behind the striker, or on either flank. I have never seen Gotze play as a CM, whether it be deep or box to box.

Why are you guys calling for him, when its clear to see we have Nani, Valencia, Young and Giggs for the flanks. Rooney, Young, Giggs and possibly Clevs who can play in the hole. What is the sense in spending 35million+ on this guy when in reality the positions he plays in are what we have the most depth in?

Dont get me wrong he is going to be a World Class player - but we simply do not need the guy.

We need a decent, experienced CM (Defensive or Box to Box) not another attacking midfielder.

MUFC_Devil

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There is a place in our squad for any world class player, that is the one thing we are lacking. If he is going to be world class in 2 years time, do you still see Giggs playing that role?

If you repeat the same player for 2 different positions that doesn't mean we have 4 in each, especially when Clevs doesn't play in the hole, Young has only played wide for us and Giggs is on his last legs.

In reality we have one player that plays in the hole, Rooney, and would he not be class with another top class player with him. We didn't appear to struggle too much when Ronaldo was here did we?

Maybe these are a few of the reasons people want him, no need to be frustrated that we are linked to world class talent.

GDS

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It's tough to work out what we need we have Cleverley Anderson Pogba Tunnicliffe and Jones who can all play in midfield and we have Nani Valencia Rooney Young Giggs Park Brady Lingard Petrucci and Cole who can all play either wide or in the hole so it depends on who's leaving who's ready to step up and what tactic's we are gonna play which is a lot of second guessing of the hardest man in football to second guess.

Shappy

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GDS
i agree we only have rooney who can play the SS role and to be honest i would like to rooney up top with with a worldclass player just behind him.
shappy
i made the same point a week or so ago if we were to bring in a top CM i think one of the first choice players would maybe be moved on
jred

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You answered your own question. He is going to be world class. How many of them do we have?
Dingle

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How long is Giggs going to be around for?

How good is Nani really?

How good is Young really?

How many injuries does Valencia pick up?

How much does Rooney's form dip?

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Yeah that solves the problem 'jred' play Rooney up top. Then what happens with Hernandez and Welbeck?

Gonna be frustrated not getting games. Rooney will always be playing the SS role when fit (barring CM if we have another bad injury crisis there).

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MUFC_Devil, you're an absolute person mate, we need as many world class players as we can and he can play a role in midfield for us, Nani has not made much progress, he frustrates more than he performs well so i think a play like Goetz is just what we need

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Don't care where he plays, he would be a quality signing and would strengthen our team so it doesn't really matter who we got. You said it yourself hes going to be world class and looking at our team we seem to lack a lot of these type players, yes we got rooney but who else at the minute? So a bit of logic please, do you want a world class player or a good/above average player playing in any position?

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I think we need a quality creative midfielder , scholes has shown how much we missed him, talk about young , Anderson whoever you want but they're not good enough to be the creative midfielder we need, cleverly hopefully will be but another world quality midfielder is a must for me.

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look at the bigger picture , in europe we play with 1 up front rooney but then lack a bit of creativity in the middle .
also its a squad game so everyone will get games.
And why will rooney always be a ss it could be argued that his best season was playing as an out an out striker.
And one last thing what happens to this team if rooney gets injured, tell me who steps in to his boots.
jred

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MUFC you are talking bs. Gotze has the potential to become the best in the world in a few years time. Why you becoming more frustrated? He might not play cm but he can adapt to the way united play or saf will accommodate him in the side he is that good. Are you happy with the cm we have at the moment? Out of the champions league, fa cup, carling cup etc. I along with so many supporters would be very happy to see gotze wear the red shirt. The midfield potential of gotze, pogba and cleverly is breathtaking.

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Thats why i'd sign Kagawa as he'd be perfect playing in midfield if Cleverley was unavailable can play out wide or in the hole allowing Rooney to play further up the pitch in tough games or replacing Wayne altogether if he's injured or suspended. And he's got the ability to be world class.

Shappy

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Y u frustrated,idiotic post really,stop playing champ manager with your cm,hes a potentially world class football player end of,now put your toys back in your pram.
Ste73

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How can you moan about being linked with goetze, he is absolute quality and will be one of the best players in the world within the next 2 years. Giggs will be gone by then, Young is an average player and Nani is inconsistent so me personally would love to have him at united

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You must be the only guy on the planet that doesn't think we need an CAM - modric, scneijder & goetze all play this role, but hey maybe SAF doesn't see the bigger pic like you. Lol. Apologies for being dry but you only have to watch Uniteds lack of creativity in the final 3rd to see why this signing is key. Personally scholes & Giggs, berbs & nani will probably go.
Would live to see Modric & benezema as replacements but money will dictate.

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21 Feb 2012 14:47:14
Kuszczak has been loaned to Watford.

Anon

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21 Feb 2012 14:44:16
Tomasz Kuszczak has joined Watford on loan until the end of the season
With his ability to find the touchline with his clearances on a regular basis!I'm suprised he's not signed for a rugby team?

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You are very rough!! The guy isn't that bad. It's just that our level is higher.

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More I think it was he couldn't handle the pressure at UTD tbf

Pardoe

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21 Feb 2012 09:35:58
I have a little information for you people. I've said for quite a while now that there have been at least 5/6 meetings between us and Modric up to the summer, but from what I've heard today suggests there has been more. I don't know anyone within united but there is a serious push now for Modric and I'm afraid this story will gather momentum until it's complete in the summer window. Can't tell you how I know but he is the man coming in the summer.
From what I could make out this is believe it or not virtually nailed on for this coming window.
I can only presume that the player has told tottenham exactly where he wahts to go and when. We obviously have the money. When I found out more I will post about it again.
Supasub

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I am a spurs , and the money spurs have put on modric is £60 million money only, for that I would sell! but I'm afraid the information you have is way off, modric is settled and will probably sign a new contract, he ended up turning chelsea down, modric is settled in london and honestly can't see him moving to manchester? I think hes once again bought in to whats developing at white hart lane? I'm not saying he will go but if he does I think abroad looms, I understand vdv may be off, I'm told hazard will be bought! & should modric go the little pearl could be replaced by your target and spurs fan eriksen?, as for meetings, meetings did take place but only out of the unknown, modric had he moved last year would have been chelsea, regardless of how many meetings man utd and modric had, he would never have joined! btw NO meetings have since taken place!

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Modric does seem the most likely to me, perfect age and knows the PL inside out. I think Harry Redknapp will become England manager at the end of this season therefore meaning Modric is much more likely to leave too. Would be a superb addition, knows how to keep the ball and he's got great vision, what else do you need.

Ozwald

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I just can't see it, Supasub. The man is worth, now, around £40million in today's market. We simply do not have that sort of money to spend on one player.

Secondly, Spurs are a healthy draw right now - London club, Champs League, will be again next season, guaranteed at least 3rd IMO, perhaps even pushing us for second.

You could argue, that SPurs are a club on the rise, I dont see why Modric would even entertain leaving them this summer - let alone the club wanting to leave.

We'll see I suppose - if they get Hazard, I'd be willing to change my views.

RED_SKY

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Would rather get hazard as hes younger and will have a sell on value

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So people here know how much we have to spend know how much modric is an if we will buy him or not iv heard very similar rumours for player plus cash so in my mind it's 25-30mill plus berbatov or carrick but you guys who shot this rumour down when I posted it should put a cv in for SAF job when he go's you seem to know everything but really Wat you know about football you could write on the back of a stamp we have plenty of money can pursue any player we want but we need to offload a few to make room modric to united for 27.5mill plus berbatov good deal in my eyes

Young Irish

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25 or 30 plus berbatov or carrick?? I can see by that the reason for irish jokes!! Both of those players are too old for us fella, its £60 mill mate and I dont think you can afford that amount?

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'Spurs fan'

Modric did not turn Chelsea down and he would be available for half of your estimation if it was cash upfront. Modric still wants a move and he made that clear just before Christmas when he said it's not impossible that he could leave in January, but it's more likely to be in the summer. His words, not mine. I am afraid signing an improved contract means nowt anymore.

Sydney!

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Sydney; you simply can-not keep an unhappy player, levy turned down £42 million in the summer, modric did turn chelsea down insisting that he would give it one more year and IF his ambitions were not met he would insist on a move and IF they were met he would put pen to papaer on a new contract! so having turned down plus £40 mill they will take less and sell to you?? dont be so stupid! remember your dealing with levy! he made you pay over the odds for carrick and well over for berbatov! now if your insistant on talking moving i suggest to concentrate on a couple of your own player's, you seem to know more about other teams players than your own, dont you? having been on most other teams pages and yet not really knowing nothing!!

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To the guy thinking its an "Irish joke" who would pay 60 mill for modric you would have a better chance of gettin another 50 for Torres. Modric is a great player but 60mill is just to keep the wolves from the spurs if they said he is avail for 30 - 40 mill there would be bids in the low 30s but 60 is scare mongering to stop bids till the club want to sell him there on a good run an don't need another club turning his head at this stage of the season an to be honest when they secure 3rd or 4th an a CL spot I can't see him moving at all he will be made a legend at white hart lane so mate the biggest joke iv heard today is modric is worth 60 million you didn't leave a name so can only assume your hiding behind a keyboard

Young Irish "not joking" {Ed002's Note - Torres was sold by Liverpool not Manchester United.}

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Chelsea did not offer £42m, it was much less than that and it was players offered in the deal. You are talking balloons mate. Levy could never turn down £42m for Modric, he would have carried him there himself. Cesc went for £35m, Nasri went for two thirds of his valuation at £23m because he had one year left on his contract. Pastore at 22 went for £37m, Sneijder was being offered around for £30m. Modric is not valued at £42m or £60m. He will sell for between £30m-£35m or a little less with a player.

Sydney!

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I wouldn't pay more than 20 mil for Modric - if we are looking at 30 - 35+ (for one player) there are better targets in Europe - EPL proved or not.

Mike

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Modric is a great player at what he does, he is not a superstar in the sense that he gets 20 goals a season or 20 assists, but he does his particular job well. Because he isn't a superstar he will not be sold for a superstar's fee. He will sell for a maximum of £35m and I would bet slightly less simply because he doesn't score the goals Cesc or Nasri does.

Sydney!

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'Spurs Fan'

You say that you cant keep an unhappy player but who is to say Modric is unhappy? Yes he wanted a move but the guy is professional and who is to say that Spurs/Modric arent in a similar situation to United/Ronaldo in 2008 where the player was told 1 more year and then the situation will be looked at again. As for £60million....I dont even need to comment.

TK-Red

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Agreeing with syd on that last note, he is a realistic target for us, because he wont command a 'superstar's fee but he is one of the best around at the job he does. He is exactly the type of player we need, he's fantastic at linking play between the defence and the front line as well as controlling the game.

Ozwald

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Sydney, chelsea did offer that amount (£42m), they have said we have said, but you app know more than both of the club's, sorry im wrong! chelsea say they offerd £4om...sorry, as for modric being a good honest pro, yes he is, but he struggled when his head was all over the place regarding a move, as it would be now if that were the case? he did say you never know (re jan, like sydney said) but he also said that he was not looking for a move nor did he want one, but you never know what the club would do, if a great offer came in in and they accepted then yes a jan move could happen!!, he has stated a few times he is settled in london, i cant see him moving to manchester at all, the only player i think that will leave of note is vdv?, bale wont be going, and esp to manchester, esp after their (bale+lennon) alleged you tube abuse of liverpool esp and manchester, back to modric, i know the fee would be as close to what i said, and i know for a fact that if its what your saying im afraid your fooling yourselves, btw good luck in the fight against man city, im no way a united hater esp after the good work you have done in the past in keeping arsenal and chelsea away from the title!! but i am being honest, i know what im talking about and modric will not be joining you

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I would look at someone of 22 or 23. Spending 40 million (the least amount spurs would take), on a 26, nearly 27, by next season, year old seems wasteful.He's good but over-rated.If we could get him for 25-30 million it would be a good deal. I'd rather Gotze if we are going to spend above 30 million.Eriksson for 22-25 million looks good too.
Mik

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I think modric would prob be valued at about 30/35 in today's market .
Give spurs there due they normally manage to get every penny in a deal like this so it wouldn't be that much of a surprise if they got 35+.
I would be amazed if they got anywhere near 60 thou
jred

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Chelsea have never said that they offered £40m for Modric, you are talking balloons. Harry said

"I think £40million was apparently offered yesterday [Tuesday]. Whether that is true or not, it is what I heard"

Harry knows damn well it isn't true. His blubbering quote says it all doesn't it?

Sydney!

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This is what Ed002 said in August regarding Harry's fabricated £40m rejection scam.

"Perhaps it is not what you think. Perhaps not a firm offer, perhaps players, perhaps delusion"

Sydney!

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I think that deep down Modric is unsettled, he is of course happy to be playing at Spurs but would be glad to a move to somewhere as huge as Old Trafford.

Levy probably did what we did with Cristiano, ask them for another year and then promise to let them go. Modric signing a new contract doesn't really mean anything, he is still more than probable to leave the club. I don't think he'd necessarily be the best use of £30 million though i don't think.

RedDevil19

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I agree with RED_SKY. We would have to pay silly money for Modric, and Spurs are very much a club on the rise. I also don't see Hazard going to Spurs, or us for that matter, but who knows. Modric is quality, and I'd love to see him at the club, but I really doubt Spurs would let him go, or if he even wants to leave.

Ruudinthemood

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Modric has some good qualities and I've been watching him a lot lately and to be honest he doesn't do enough work in games in my opinion.he doesn't have the strength to take a game by the scruff off the neck an control it to make a difference,he doesnt score goals and apart from one good pass in a game,he's mediocre!and over rated!i think there's better players out there that utd could buy!for me modric is only worth 15-20m!

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Chelsea put in a few bids for Modric last summer, the highest one was £32 million, Spurs obviously turned it down straight away and said 'not for sale' Chelsea didn't bid again. I can't see Modric to United happening, as much as I'd like it to. He's a perfect fit for what United need in midfield.

United Till I Die 1987

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