Manchester United Rumours Archive October 21 2012

 

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21 Oct 2012 20:25:39
I'm quite surprised that lots of us think welbeck isn't good technically, Ive thought for a while now that he has great ability, I think as he learns to think quicker that this will become more apparent.
@Jred, Sydney! is right about drogba at 21, he was shocking! I grew up in Guingamp and watched him every week, when he signed from le mans he couldnt get anywhere near the first team, even when he came good none of us thought he could be a world class player. Malouda came through the ranks around the same time and looked class from the beginning.

Brendan

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He does have 'ability' - however he does look very clumbsy at times. I think that is what we are getting at. He does brilliant technical things, such as his goal for England against Sweden, but then he can just fall over when doing a step over. A mixed bag.

Fresh!

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Welbeck has the ability to be as good as the likes of Higuian, Pato and maybe even Benzema. No one else thinks so but at 21 he is an unbelievable player and he just keeps improving, he just needs to gain confidence in front of goal. We all know he can finish after some of the goals he scored already.

Welbeck will be at the club for long term if he continues to improve the way he does.

-JakeW

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Welbeck will never ever be as good as Drogba the most complete forward in god knows how many years.

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Hi no name, am rvp is the complete foward and imo a good bit better than Drogba,

Caolán.

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I don't particularly rate welbeck, i think he is good, but will never be more than 3rd choice for Utd. However i have spent a while discussing Drogba and Lukaku with my friend (chelsea fan). I was saying that Lukaku is at about the same stage as drogba was at the same point in his career, but that welbeck is much further ahead than drogba was at this age. Personally i dont think danny will reach the same heights as drogba, but he is still very young for a striker, and could still be world class, people forget that strikers, and players in general peak in their late 20s/early30s, not at the age of 24

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Jaxer

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Wellbeck will be class! how nice of you all to slate homegrown talent yet winge we dont play enough homegrown stars! mayb u shud all go support city as you all so often say!

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Dont rate Welbeck at all - really dont understand how is ahead of Hernandez in the pecking order. The team is so good that he'll get goals - but I think he'd struggle anywhere else. Honestly dont udnerstand the hype around him - I'd like to be proven wrong but I cant see him making it long term.

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As has been said Welbeck is good he certainly has improved lots in the last year, lets hope he does turn into someone of Drogba's stature on the pitch

SAF certainly sees something special

Pardoe

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Danny Wellbeck is 21yrs old ,he has established himself at Manchester United, one of the biggest clubs in the world,he has also established himself for his country ,how can anyone come on here and question the lads abillity ? At 21 he is still learning the game ,he is still growing and physically he's still a boy. Wellbeck is a tremendous talent and i suguest that like with any other player, people wait till he's 24/25 before making ill informed judgements.

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Comparing Welbeck to Drogba? Its like comparing chalk and cheese. He'll never be a player in Drogba's league or of his stature. He's nowhere near strong enough.

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It is like chalk and cheese yes but where welbeck isn't as strong as drogba, he has a lot more skill. His finishing will only get better and you forget that he hasn't played that many games for us yet. He has featured quite a bit but not been a regular starter, especially up front. He had a great game on the left on Sat, more than can be said any time we have put Nani out there

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Welbeck and Drogba are completely different players in terms of their style of play. Drogba was a battering ram and pure power. Danny is a far more silky player, more like a young George Weah, or Thierry Henry in my opinion than a Drogba. The thing all these players have in common is that they took time to be seen as superstars, (Weah possible exception), but Welbeck has done very well to break into our team and whilst he isnt setting the world alight, who would really expect him to yet, he performs better than most of our players on average each week, rarely the best, but very rarely the worst. He is learning and is doing so at one of the best teams in the world. Given time he will be a key player for the team, but to think he should be doing anymore yet is very short sighted. His progress is ideal for me. Hernandez needs to go, one season wonder for me, bit like Franny Jeffers, haha!

Sween

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People also have to understand that compared to 10 or 15 years ago, the standard is a lot higher. It makes it harder for young players to break through

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Nobody will ever be a young George Weah, the man was a god

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Why dont some of you spanners rubbishing Welbeck get a grip and give your own opinions instead of trotting out other peoples rubbish ..the lad is immense and will be a legend at Old Trafford ..geeez can you not watch a game and see ?

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21 Oct 2012 20:15:22
Can we stop talking about pogba he's gone, forget him and people are saying that young players aren't getting a chance because Petrucci is good but he wasn't near the level of beckham, scholes and co now I like Petrucci and a lot of other youngster they are good but not special, will keane would have played this year if he wasn't injured, if you ask me the special youth players we have are;
Powell, tunnicliffe, daehli, pereria, Blackett, will keane and James Wilson.

Caolán.

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Don't forget Januzaj. He is arguably the best of the lot. I am actually even more excited by our 1st year scholars next year. Borthwick-Jackson, Mitchell, Rashford and Henderson are top top youngsters.

Dan

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I haven't seen enough of januzaj but hear he's great, what kind of players are they dan?

Caolán.

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In terms of talent Petrucci is right up there with Daehli and januzaj. He is already a better player than all of them but because of his injury he has just as much experience. now you look at petrucci at 20 he doesnt seem very young, but lets not forget he lost 2 years through injury so basically he is an 18 yo playing in an older body. ( ok that sounds riddiculous but you know what i mean ) i think he will peak a bit later in his career than the afromentioned, but im quite sure he will become just as good as any.

Mick

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But could Petrucci become a world beater? I'm not so sure obviously I hope I'm wrong!

Caolán.

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Sorry but petrucci lacks the real turn of foot to ever be a top top player. Watch him play now and he rarely beats a man for pace. In top flight football all the truly good players can run past most opponents

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How many players does xavi run past ? or Alonso ? , or sweignstiger (spelling) or pirlo ect ect if you are good enough ability wise thn u are good enough full stop

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Obviosly Pogba was never intending to sign a new contract

SAF did right and he's gone

Pardoe

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Not giving pogba a chance will be the biggest mistake, he will be better then yaya in few years

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CaolAin,

Henderson is a very highly rated keeper.

Borthwick Jackson is a cb and very reminiscent of a young Ferdinand. Reads the game well, technically great and can play at lb as well. He is our U16 captain.

Mitchell is the most heard of player due to his match in the VS. Took on 3 or 4 players and scored a great solo goal. A winger very similar to Giggs.

Rashford is the one a lot of people rave about. He has a very similar style to Ravel and technically as good as Daehli already. A school year behind the rest so he might have to wait another year to become a full scholar though i am sure he will play matches for the U18 next season.

Watch the VS shield match on November 1st if you want to see them. All are in the squad except Mitchell who was MOTM for England U16 last game. They probs want to give him a rest.

Dan

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Cheers dan, no name pogba will never be as good as yaya, he won't fulfil his potential at juventus in a league that's just as corrupt as cycling, the opposition he faces won't be as good and as dan has said there are better younger players coming through!

Caolán.

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No problem CaolAin. I was reading the other day about those players. Blackett, Welbeck, Rashford, Mitchell and Redmond (highly rated 98 player in the academy) all came from this club called "Moss Rangers". Apparently they take gifted youngsters around age 5 and teach them skills on the ball. All of those players are outstanding on the ball and they seem to be an undiscovered miracle in creating players at that age.

Dan

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So a bit like crew do with their young players then dan?

Caolán.

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Caolain,
just because there is some corruption in the Italian league doesn't mean that pogba wont fulfill his potential. The Italian league is, and always will be, one of the biggest leagues in europe, so any player, especially a young one, will improve from playing regularly in the first team. I feel that fergie will end up regretting letting Pogba go as much as he regretted letting Jaap go (didn't he also go to italy?).
Personally I feel Pogba made the right decision leaving, he could be world class but Fergie preferred to get a 36yr old out of retirement than play him. Anyone would be put out of joint by that, and whilst I wish he had stayed at Utd, i cant criticise him for leaving

Jaxer

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23 Oct 2012 15:19:13
Caolán

" but could Petrucci become a world beater "

i can only tell you what i see. petrucci isnt the fastest player ( you d expect that after 2 years out ). Talent wise, Petrucci has always been one of the most talented youngsters on the planet. If you know any roma fans they'd tell you how much his loss meant to them.

Petrucci's passing is very impressive, now considering he's been playing as a central midfielder for just one year its unbeleivable. His vision and creativity is second to none ( " the new toti " ).
And even though he doesnt beat a player for pace he is quite a dribbler, a bit like berbatov, and you d always expect a piece of magic from him.

He is the best tackler in the u21s, possibly in the whole team in central midfield ( considering we dont have a real tough tackling wise ) and i repeat for an x number is beyond impressive.

But makes me beleive this boy will make it is because of his hunger and desiree. @ years out at that age, you'd expect a player to shy away and struggle ( a la ramsey ) but he didnt. He came back more determined than ever and you could see how much hard work he had put in gaining muscle weight to improve his physique. Now we can safetly say Davide Petrucci transformed himself from a silky second striker to a complete beast in the midfield.

Imo he can reach Xabi Alonso's levels if he keeps his head on the ground and if he is given a chance.

Mick

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I guess so CaolAin yeh.

Dan

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