Manchester United Rumours Archive July 22 2013
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22 Jul 2013 23:11:44
Apparently utd to put in a final bid of 41 mil, if this is not accepted, they wil turn to other targets.
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I think that Barca will accept in the end.
Fabregas and his representatives have been very quiet throughout this process, usually when a player is certain they don't want to leave their agent will be out saying so.
Plus, something must have prompted a bid from United in the first place, I don't think he is as unavailable as Barca make out.
For example Chelsea were told that Rooney is not for sale, but their bid was prompted by the player being unsettled. I am sure that a second/larger bid would force United in to a sale.
Perhaps there is a similar underlying reason to the bid for Fabregas.
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We are not going to get him other than rvp we have missed out on our top targets for the last number of seasons can't see this season been any different I would say we could field a starting 11 we have missed out on since the glaziers got their hands on the club and it will only get higher with a manager like moyes in the hot seat
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It is quite amazing when you think about it. United have missed out on so many, yet they remain the top club I England and one off in Europe. Imagine we made thos signings. If we get fab we will be class. But I don't think we will in the end as we won't put the money up. But looking forward hopefully seeing some if the youngsters get a chance. Zaha, lingard and welbeck look really good together so far!
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United and Moyes must have had the go ahead to make a second bid
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We won't get any of our top targets we will end up with Baines and Fellani and possibly Gail Platts twin Modric. Another season of poor football ahead. Gone are the days of entertainment at OT. All teams now look forward to visiting us with no fear most now stand a chance of winning
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They just won another championship. and produced high entertainment while dominating the league.
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22 Jul 2013 20:01:22
Good news we bid again for fabregas. there's also news of it being rejected. I think another bid is needed, hope we get him world class player.
Singh
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22 Jul 2013 17:49:42
CSC not for sale, who is next?
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Every player is for sale at the 'right price'. The people in charge on United, know what they are doing. Have some faith.
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Fallaini is my guess
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United have been told by the chairman of barcelona that cesc is not for sale and to stop pursuing him
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Every player has a price, even Messi and Rona
ldo would be sold if the right offer came in.
We are near that price on Cesc Fabregas, another bid if we're prepared to do it, will be enough.
Flyhalfmitch.
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CSC not for sale? They may go for DFS next then.
Brendan81
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What a ludicrous bid to begin with. We now know why we failed with alexis sanchez, hazard and all the others. These transfer offers were never meant to succeed in the first place.
The gundogen bid will materialise soon.
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35m will do it
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I think we will look to Modric next. I would be happy with that and I would expect us to agree a fee with RM as they do need the cash.
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If we sign Modric for RM then we can kiss our already minimal chance of Bale goodbye, as that will give Madrid the cash they've been waiting for to fund a deal for Bale.
Dan
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Agree with Sydney. However I recon united will advance with one final bid.
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Boo-hoo, someone's giving Barcelona grief pursuing one of their players. Slightly hypocritical for them to be complaining about it really.
I have a slightly different take on the Fabregas thing. For United to continue to pursue him, they must have had encouragement from somewhere - probably the player's agent. What's happening at the moment is the usual everybody sticking their chests out bit. Cesc doesn't want to burn his bridges with the Barce fans in case he ends up back there. Barce don't want to appear to cave in and sell good players to other big clubs. We want to push the situation. I guess the only thing that would change the score now is a bigger bid from us (£35m-ish, I suppose) or Cesc asking to move. We'll see how things go over the next few days.
As for the Bale thing, it's unlikely Spurs would sell to us anyway. I suspect the Bale pursuit is more to apply pressure to RM to let us at Ronaldo, but I don't think either will happen.
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Don't really feel that we need modric personally I think he's over rated. We have kagawa in the position modric plays and I think he will go on to be better than modric. Put the money into cesc
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Ozil?.
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As long as it is not Cabaye that would be a good start.
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22 Jul 2013 21:43:28
How do modric and kagawa play in the same position?
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Would geuninely prefer Cabaye to Modric as I too think he is overrated due to inconsistent performances. modric a bit like nani in that on his day he is unstopable but unfrotunately these days are few and far between. cabaye would be a lot cheaper than modric and the money saved could be used instead to finance a move for a huge star
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Bale will not happen, please stop, its getting stupid now.
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22 Jul 2013 16:08:56
First time poster but visit the site everyday. Never had anything to post until now. My friend is working on Gary Neville's roof. Apparently Neville has said Rooney is as good as gone, didn't say who to though. United are tryin to raise as much funds as possible from the Rooney sale to get bale who nev has said is 50/50. He is almost certain we will get cesc.
Wynn
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Is he working in the eco friendly roof that Gary Neville has.
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Yeah, i'm sure Gary told the person doing his roof information that no one else (e. g the press) have been told
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As someone who has worked on quite a few footballers pads or de foe, le seux lee Dixon ect work is carried out through a main contractor and trades will have absolutely no contact with the client of that level at at all. '. , so I would go with this being a load of s***, we will be lucky to sign anyone at this rate let alone roofers tales of world class footballers
Alman
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Guess he didn't get the memo that Barca has turned down the second offer. Can't see Man United paying 40+ million for Cesc
KB
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The offer was 40m euros. Hopefully we'll go higher and I wouldn't care if we spent £40m to try and get him, he's exactly what we need.
Dan
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Barca haven't rejected second offer get your facts rite they won't make a desicion until new manager is signed
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Actually, Alman, it depends on who you're doing the work for. Most people having work done on their homes would talk to the people doing it, "celebrity" or not. I used to send engineers out to fit mobile phones to high end cars. Some famous people would leave keys with an intermediary, others would talk with the fitter. Quite a few chatted to the guys a lot, made them lunch etc. So it's not an unbelievable rumour on that basis.
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That would be because they haven't turned down the second offer yet!
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Think your mate fell off the roof and cracked his head as all the info is bs
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My brother in law fitted blinds at Asmir Begovic's house and he spoke with him about football and things in general. I also had a friend who installed sockets at John Gregorys house when he was Villa manager and he was there and spoke with him too so this chap may be telling the truth. I expect most people will say I am talking BS too though lol
Cheekos
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Why would you come up with such lies, honestly state your opinion on what's going on, you don't have to come up with a rubbish back story
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Neville doesn't have a roof, he's got a crazy underground flower house
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22 Jul 2013 13:35:12
MARCA has now changed its page from
Cesc not moving to Utd make a bigger
improved offer to Cesc. any time now
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Fabregas will sign
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No he won't
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Hes behind you
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Oh yes he will!
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22 Jul 2013 13:17:09
Hi all,
not posted for a while, just heard a whisper, lewandowski will be the next move after the fabregas situation is sorted. Lewy will be replacement for wazza, who looks more destined for the emirates than chelski, also fellaini and baines for a combined 40mil, but this will be later in the window,
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lorcan
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I thought Lewandowski was pretty much nailed on to go to Bayern?
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Are you daft! he is gone to Bayern!
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I wish that was true put it sounds like a whisper from someone on fifa.
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He is rumoured to be Bayern bound but worth a shot. I've been saying for weeks that a loan move could nake sense.
Think about it.
RL on loan for a year saves us splashing it big and then next year a different set of players will be available I. e. Ronaldo or Bale.
Or of course after a year on loan (that I guess we'd have to pay for) RL may decide to stay at United.
Wishful thinking ;-)
Ben
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Not that this is going to happen at all, but if had the slightest chance, then Dortmund would ask for a fee, most like £10m.
They are not going to get rid of everyone as they are still trying to compete for Champs League positions.
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Melweg, the going rate for forwards of RL's ability is about £50m so £10m for a year isn't too bad. I'm sure the difference in his and WR's wages would pay about half of it anyway.
Alternatively some sort of permanent deal that has him on a fixed sell on to Bayern after a year could achieve the same thing but cheaper dor us.
It's a bit off the wall but clearly RL holds all the cards with regards his next move.
Ben
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I forgot to add.
BVB are in a similar position with RL as we are with WR. Albeit with less media coverage and manipulation - in the UK at least.
Ben
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Difference is that WR has 2 years left on his contract and RL has only one. We could wait another year. Perhaps even 2 if the club thinks its worth it.
Dan
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Lewandowski will join Munich this summer
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Dan I didn't mean the contract length. I meant the player clearly wants to be playing elsewhere. Not ideal in a team environment.
Ben
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Why on earth would u loan out your best forward for the final year of his contract? Be better selling him than taking a 10mill loan fee
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A. Because he wants to leave so what's the point of keeping him? B. If they sold him now that's all they'd get. C. They'd prefer he moved abroad than to Bayern.
A deal could be struck that suits Dortmund, United and Bayern, it won't happen but my point remains that I would be happy if it did.
Ben
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22 Jul 2013 11:54:06
i've got a feeling at this rate, Paul Scholes will be coming out of retirement in December again. ;)
Del Boy!
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Oh it is so frustrating been a utd fan, this is why I didn't want moyes to get the job everton got the better deal here a manger that has won a major honour in england, don't forget phil nevelle will come into a player coach position aswell. Once we have been told at the end of august that we tryed to bring in some world class players then after tgat there will be the no value in the tranfer market, the glaziers got what they want in woodward and moyes 2 yes men
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Coming out of Stamford Bridge.
Chelsea bid for Rooney. United said ok 10 million and Mata and he's yours.
Chelsea declined only interested in a cash deal. This is not over yet watch this space
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Del boy
What a comment!
Even lot many united supporters are thinking same. In absence of quality wingers people are thinking to call cantona back. that's definatly our club board can do
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I would rather have him back than sign Cabaye.
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I like the way this is now a complaints forum not a rumours site
Moyes has said himself in a press conference " i'm only in the job 3 weeks" he had a winding down period at everton!
And why have they come back with a second bid for Fabregas?
Get out from behind your Consoles and start living in the real word
(Bagolego)
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How can u think moyes only in the job 3 weeks, he knew long before the season ended that he would be utd next manager. They spend months working on transfers do u honestly think they only approached moyes in may to take the utd hotseat u would want to get your head out of the console they back in december when quardiola said no they probs approached moyes a month later
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Everyone seems to be signing but us. If Rooney goes, we could be starting next season with a weaker midfield than the last two.
Everyone at OT talks about a money chest and how generous the Glazers are, but where's the evidence? As we are, can't see us finishing about City or Chelski. Hurts, but hope Moyes can pull his finger out.
Not interested in hearing him say we could only get Cabbaye and Fellaini - but never wanted Strootman and Thiago anyway!
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Maybe he already accepted the Bayern offer beforehand
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22 Jul 2013 08:42:18
Ok ill be the first to say it,
Ronaldo was seen in Bournemouth last night, word is he is having a medical ;-) why else would he be there?
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Well, have to say, this is getting worrying from our point of view, it now seems we've wasted too much time trying to put a package together for him and fair play to Bournmouth, they've taken advantage and begun talks with him, where will it end?!lol
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Yes, it can't be anyting else ;)
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A friendly with Bournemouth which Madrid won 6-0 perhaps?
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Real Madrid played a friendly with Bournemouth last night Ronaldo scored twice!
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He was there with madrid playing a match
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Hear he is signing for Bournemouth with 99% ownership of the club in return :)
Shahram
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Err, don't you read the papers. He was playing for Madrid in a friendly against Bournemouth.
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Seems that humour is lost on many.
MDJ
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Relax folks, just a little bit of levity/ sarcasm. Nobody really believes he is signing for Bournemouth.
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! People actually thought this was a serious post?! Christ on a bike!
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Ha
Too many Americans on here?
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This is really happening, part of the agreement was the friendly match they played as Madrid have identified Bournemouth as having great potential to market themselves. Ronaldo has a caravan down there (2005 6 birth tourer, its a beaut!)and loves playing bingo at the club house. Only sticking point is Marc Pugh won't give up his No. 7 shirt but Ronaldo's agent doesn't think it's a deal breaker.
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Madrid played Bournemouth in a friendly last night RM won 6-0
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Ha, so it's got nothing to do with the fact that Real Madrid just played Bournemouth, beating them 6-0?!
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What has it come to when some people believed this.
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Humour mustn't be some people's strong point lol.
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Wind 'em up & reel 'em in!
Blimey. :/
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This is amazing news. The way I see it, is that it gives us an 'in' to get ronaldo after all. He'll play a few months at bournemouth, realise that he is 33years to young to live there and then we can step in an rescue him in the Jan window.
I pray this all comes off. We need such great news. Thanks for the original post!
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Laughing at all the reposnses, think he was well aware why he was there!
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It's a shame to see your humour wasted on so may CTR
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Good god people. I know its hard to get sarcasm across in internet posts but it was pretty obvious.
Dan
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If brains were gunpowder, you lot couldn't blow the top of your green and gold bobble hat off.
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I love that people were actually getting a little angry at this as well haha I thought it was funny
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Thought the original post was funny, but the replies are so much better.
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Lol come on guys! Its sarcasim ;-)
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What an obvious place for a manchester club to conduct their medicals - away from their worldclass medical facilities and 250-odd miles from home.
Bournemouth is nearer Paris than Manchester, numbnuts. Wait, maybe PSG do THEIR medicals in "the medical epicentre of Europe" (or Bournemouth as it's also known). {Ed004's Note - You obviously didn't get the sarcasm from the post I'm not sure how you didn't get it from the replies}
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22 Jul 2013 07:52:37
Press reports this morning that Rooney will sign for Chelsea for about £30m but not in time for him to play against us on 26 August. Sounds a good deal to me.
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Yes that's what's coming out of the Bridge. United are also waiting to see what happens with cesc. if he turns us down. Chelsea still keen on moving Mata on, a swap deal with Rooney is still on the cards.
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I imagine any deal for Rooney to join Chelsea would be done after we have played them.
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Personally, my money is on Rooney staying in this window and leaving in January. Moyes would look pretty stupid if he sells now after insisting that Rooney is not for sale. When the window changes it will be a different story though as he will not lose face by selling.
The most important thing for a new manager is to be seen to be strong willed. Selling now could make it seem like he will cave under the slightest pressure.
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So worst case RVP is injuried anyone got any bright ideas who will score because I havnt. Short sighted, unless there is a cunning plan. Baz
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Baz, I'm with you there mate. Although we have other strikers obviously, I don't think they have consistent league winning form.
As we all know, we need a goal-scoring midfielder who can take some of the pressure off RVP, Danny and Chicharito when they are not playing well, or dare I say it - injured.
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What about Hernandez? I got the impression he was a prolific goalscorer for MU and Mexico? Hernandez supported by a better midfield/wings will be much better. He wouldn't need to drop deep to get the ball and could concentrate on being a striker, nothing more, nothing less.
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If Rooney leaves we will need another world class striker who could it be?
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Like SAF said more than once last season, Shinji Kagawa will be a much improved player for us this season. I can see him getting quite a few goals and assists.
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Why is it that other top strikers go for 50million -Falcao and Cavani both similar ages, very good strikers go for 40 million+ - Suarez and goodish strikers like Higuin go for 30 million+ Rooney is still a far better player than this guy, yet 30 million is a good deal for Rooney? If he goes to Chelsea he must go for at least 40 million. If he goes oversea then 30 million doesn't look so bad. I like the idea of Lukuku and 15 million or Mata in a straight swop. We'd be mugs to sell Rooney, even if he isn't at his 50 million peak, to Chelsea at anything other than a high price. Could you see then selling us Oscar, or Hazard for 20 million?
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Robert L on loan for a year before he joins Bayern would work for me. Especially if we can swing it for Ronaldo to return next summer or splash out on Bale.
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Allour other rivals are doing business except us. I know its early in market but not happy everything seems slow if your not fast your last
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Got to love the fans that want us to spend spend spend!
Let other clubs spend £50m on a player, who cares! Look at how much City and Madrid have spent recently, have they got anything to show for it? Madrid £80m for Ronaldo, what has it brought them exactly? How about £50m that Chelsea paid for Torres?
Spending a lot on fees is not the answer. It's about quality simple as! We spent under £40m on RVP and Kagawa and look at the rewards!
Look at City this year, who exactly have they bought that would worry us?
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So you think it is a good deal, but you are scared of him playing against us. Which says it all, he's a superb player and the people who hate him on here, will regret slagging him all the time when he's won the league with chelski. But it will be too late then.
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Rooney will go for a lot more than £30m to an English club. Still got a sneaky feeling that Lewandowski is the replacement. No sources for I like everyone else on here do not have any. Just a feeling.
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Sorry forgot to say if Rooney leaves and RVP gets injured who can score goals. Baz
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Mata and Fabregas ohhhh
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22 Jul 2013 15:58:32
If Rooney goes to an English club we should be getting more than £30m for him! Why would we let a direct rival strengthen significantly for that price?! Also, I would insist on Mata in any deal with the chavs. Mourinho said Rooney is the only one he wants, well fine but if he wants him that much we'll have Mata thankyou very much!
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22 Jul 2013 07:11:48
Rumours going around we have made a bid for De Rossi and potentially will do a swap deal with Nani being involved.
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I would love this to be true, de Rossi is awesome and would be the hard man midfielder we've missed since keano. plus nani has had 6 years to prove himself and he just isn't getting to the standard and consistency we need him to be at.
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22 Jul 2013 02:14:15
Kurt Zouma in England tues and wed
is meeting MUFC reps one of this dates
watch this space!
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Good option to offer long term cover for rio and vidic. I know we have jones Evans smalling and the young lad keane, but this guy is good. I hope if we sign him it is not at the expense of improving other positions such as cm, winger, left back. Come on Moyes, go out there and get one of your targets in the bag.
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22 Jul 2013 02:07:28
MUFC have now got permission to speak
to Cesc Fabregas!!
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22 Jul 2013 01:04:00
My mates son has come home from Holidays in Spain. His mothers family have their own house and lived there for years and supposedly know people that know people. As they always say.
I have heard from him so that Cesc is all but done, the bid is accepted by Barca but they must contact AW to see if he wants to take first refusal.
The details of the extra stuff in the bid are Shirt sales percentage etc and of if any offers for DDG come in Barca will be notified as a gentlemans agreement in place for him.
Maybe total nonsense but I really really hope it's true
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That's a good one.
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We receive a fixed amount each year from Nike so this % shirt sales is impossible to start with. Tell your mate to at least try to come up with a better story next time.
Dan
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As much as I'd want fabregas if it had anything to do with ddg I'd pull out now
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You know this is a crap rumor. Just because you know someone who has a house in Spain, doesn't mean doodly.
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It's still a rumour. Crap or not, that's what the site is.
Didn't claim it to be true either
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