Manchester United Rumours Archive May 22 2012

22 May 2012 23:18:37
daily fail says we want michu not a player i'm familiar with anyone know any more?

Plays in La Liga, cant remember which team, he's a centre attacking mid, who scored 17 goals this year

Michu, the highest-scoring midfielder in Spain last season, could move to the Premier League for as little as £3million this summer.
Rayo Vallecano’s financial problems mean the former Real Oviedo and Celta Vigo player, who hit 17 goals in 39 games, is available at significantly less than the club's original £8m asking price.
Manchester United scouts have been watching Michu, 26, and London-based agents DBW have also spoken with several other English clubs, including Liverpool, about him.

Bargain hunting if true

Red Man

22 May 2012 21:59:51
Apparently Dortmund have said Lewandowski is not for sale at any price and United had a £15 million bid turned down. Anyone agree about thinking we should try and sign Leandro Daimio? imo i think he's class and only 22/23.

United4Ever.

He does look relatively good, think Internacional would want a fair bit of dollar for him and playing in the Brazilian league, could be a gamble!

Ozwald

He's a great gamble!

In Brazil he's regarded as our 2014 number 9.
He's less technically gifted than Pato, but due to being forever injuried, Damião is considered our best target striker.

He's not signing a new contract and we can use Berbatov as bait + we practically have him if they get Bendter

22 May 2012 20:30:55
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fivelive/5lfd/5lfd_20120521-2229a.mp3

BBC radio link to hazard signing for us conversation.

Go to the 27 minute mark, an unamed "man in the know" said we have signed hazard for £32 million. He called the Solsjkaer (spelling) to Villa meetings a week before the tabloids got hold of the information.

Also apparently it will be 140k per week!

UNITED_LEGENDS

140k is the same as Rooney is reportedly on
Jred

Just listened to it, Sounds promising if he is right about the Aston Villa thing, time will tell for us fans! -JakeW

Hmmm... Interesting!
I still think he will go to Chelsea though!

In 10 days time everyone will know i dont think anyone will know before then, imo i still believe we have a great chance of getting him, i know we cant offer a package like man s****y or chelski but he will have the chance to play for the biggest club in the world and the best manager in the history of the game. and he knows he could become a legend at the club like (beckham, giggs, charlton, law, best, ronaldo, cantona to name a few)

UNITEDFORLIFE75

Chelsea offered him 250k per week!
and he said after champions league final that he is edging towards signing with them...
We have kagawa tho!

Lets just put this episode behind us untill he actually signs for someone cos i dont no about the rest of ya's but im gettin sleepless nights worrying about this s**t lol

clt

If you listen to the podcast (27:30) it's all based on the wink of some bloke who is in the know! Yes I'm sad and listened to it!

Chelsea have NOT offered him 250k a week.....

nobody knows what he was offered apart from the men that offered the terms and they are hardly going to release that information until the player has been signed by whoever, otherwise they leave themselves wide open for another club to be offering more........

if chelsea offered him that kind of money whats that going to do to the rest of the squad, who will feel it is noway justified considering what the rest of them are on, especially the established players!!

Robbo

22 May 2012 19:50:25
I honestly cannot see why everyone is being so critical on hazard. I believe that he never said half the stuff in the media but even if he did, he is a young lad making a life changing decision.

And to all this stuff about Spain in a couple of years, give him some credit, he's been at Lille for 7 years, if thats similar loyalty to Ronald and everybody still loves him!

Give him credit, hopefully he'll sign on and be a legend.


Ginge.

22 May 2012 19:29:44
Now that Mourinho has signed on for another 3 years, we can look forward to Real dominating La Liga and the CL for a few years. They will strenghthen big-time in the summer, with Lucas, Silva, Aguero, etc being linked with them already. He is great tactically and also as a man-manager, so he really gets the very best out of players.
I have to say I really thought SAF would retire within 2 years at the very most and Mourinho would step in, but this does not look like happening now. Does it mean Mourinho was never considered/interested for/in the job, or does SAF intend to stay for the next 3/4 years?
I believe that SAF and the Board of Management have a timescale for SAF's retirement in place, along with a list of potential managers, if not an agreement with one particular person. I thought (just a personal hunch) this person was Mourinho but I was obviously wrong.
Does anybody think SAF has already decided his retirement date? If not, do ye think he should, and I don't mean publicly like the last time, I mean privately with senior management?

J Bones.

Probably, but I hope he stays in the game until he dies.
We are in front of "history" itself.
More than 20 years in the same club and every year being touted as favourites for any competition... that's kind of scary.
I don't think Mourinho could stay for more than 5 year at United...and even less chances of formulation 4 completely different generations of champions...

I genuinely thinkl what Ferguson says is true, as long as his health and mind is in good condition he will carry on. I expect he will know when its time to go, how many years that is would be anothe rthng, but he cant go on much longer can he? (prob said same thing 5 years ago :)
Invisible STuey

Just my personal opinion on the possibility of Mourinho taking over from SAF. I used to think he was born to manage Utd, and found him witty, antagonising, charming and infuriating, all in equal measure. But having witnessed his antics in Madrid over the last couple of seasons, I'm afraid I now just find him boorish and crass, with very little class, if any. I know he has the ego and the talent for the Utd job, but on a personal level, I now find it really hard to like the guy. Plus, apart from Real this season, can anyone say his style of football is attractive?

Why do we always assume a hidden agenda? I believe Fergie is as he says 'going to continue until his health wont allow him'
Woffsta

Silva won't go to Madrid, Lucas is going to Inter :) and if they get Aguero they will lose Higuain

22 May 2012 19:20:01
People are saying that Nani should be sold to replace Hazard, isn't this quite a large gamble,thinking that we should sell someone who has pledged their future to the club, for someone who can't make their mind up over money or playing football?

Your thoughts would be brilliant

Yellowcar

I think that we can raise enough money by selling a few of the fringe players to make sure that we keep hold of Nani. No defence in the league would want to play against a front 3 or Nani, Rooney and Hazard and thats not even mentioning Valencia, Welbeck and possibly Kagawa.


TK-Red

Totally agree

I totally agree.
Hazard is a massive gamble. Not least of all because he could suddenly decide he's had enough and pack his bags for Spain.
Leaving, potentially a huge void around which Fergie had built his team.
Nani, frustrating as he can be, is one of our best players - on his day. And also seems totally commited to United. He's not at his peak yet, and i think he will get better and more consistant.

Cheers
Bob

We don't know how Hazard will perform, although i think he will be fine. But i wouldn't get someone who is so commited to the club, works hard, wants to be here and is a game winner. I really like Nani and think wingers of him and Hazard would bring back the Ronaldo days.

RedDevil19

But say if we signed Hazard and sold Nani now, and come 3-4 years later when Hazard looks set to leave we could switch our attention to James Rodriguez or Iturbe? In a few years there will also be new up and coming talent. Noone had heard of Hazard 3 years ago right? Not saying that I'm in favour of Nani leaving I actually really like Nani as a player and would rather him stay.

A.R

He,s been here 5 years when do you expect him to be consistant ,be able to cross the ball and reach his peak.
johndenton

Since when did nani sign a new deal??

Joe.a

Correct me if I'm wrong but has hazard actually stated he wants to play in la liga, I doubt barca will need him with messi Pedro sanchez thiago fabregas busquets iniesta tello all going to be there for a while. Real will have ozil Ronaldo higuain di Maria benzema and possibly neymar or Lucas

Nani is class i'd sell young & welbeck b4 nani he might not be consistant but neither was ronaldo until the last 3 yrs at old trafford & he still young he wants to stay and that in the present climate around football is great to see with all the mercenaries in the game
redtonka

I do wish people would stop goign on about Hazard leaving for Spain in two years and leaving a huge void. He is a foreign player and not many stay at a club for there whole careers. If we signed him and he played for us for 3-5 seasons and left for a decent fee I would be more than happy
Invisible Stuey

Tbh nani is so shocking it's unbelievable he has great talent but lacks the basics.

His crosses are so poor and he doesn't look up alway head down, amazing skill with the ball but his decision making is poor.

He's what 25. 26 in November at this stage in his career he should be hitting his peak, people in here think he's class? Are you mad?

He doesn't track back, shooting is mixed, passing is poor, crossing is poor and his attitude to work for the team is poor.

Should get the most money we can for him

Nani's stats have been excellent for the past 3 seasons. Even this last season his returns were good for someone who was injured for a long spell. Rather than spend loads on Hazard, spend for our center -midfield, it's our weakest area and really needs surgery.
Mik

22 May 2012 13:59:46
ed02.. do you know if chelsea have bid for Lucas 40m euro and if so is hazard just a backup plane for them?

oxred {Ed002's Note - There have been two offers for Lucas Moura - this is not new news. It is unrelated to Hazard.}

Chelsea's offer of £32m has been rejected - come on Sir Alex, make a higher bid - he will ensure United win trophieS each and every year!

Back up plane ? Russian chairman buying new toys again .....?

22 May 2012 18:57:03
Lewadowski will not be allowed to leave dortmund at the moment. Kagawa is a possibility but not at the quoted price. deal yet to agreed for hazard.just initial meetings. A deal won't be concluded with whoever until after the England Belgium friendly! Berba will leave but won't be part of a swap deal. Forget bale and modric(too expensive) but you can expect to see a young defender incoming. The lad from crewe will sign and won't be loaned back(why would we?).it's unto you guys whether you believe this but leave it until august b4 u come back and tell me I was wrong!!
Red1

Now I feel really down....all I need now is for city to win the league!

Sorry I've made you feel down m8. Just being realistic. Cheers red1

I heard they are after Hummels and Subotic(Serbia partner for Vidic)

22 May 2012 17:21:53
Rumour has it that United are looking at putting a bid for Bale £40m, releasing Young to play in a more central position behind Rooney. Bale as a natural left sided player will give UTD a better balance with the pace of Valencia on the Right.

Also I have heard that Utd are trying to offload Nani £20 and Anderson £9M to help with finances and wages to briing Kagawa £10m and Hazard £35. along with the release of Owen and Berbatov.

and to top that off also Utd just checking out what is going on with RVP and Torres. But will definitely sign another striker with the possibility that Hernandez may also be sold if a decent offer is made to take him to spain. Llorente has been mentioned but I would like to see Jelavic (has already proved he can socre goals in England and also Cavani good in the air and hold up player.

So we spend £85 on Bale, Kagawa and Hazard...and sod it, throw in Torres too?...sell Nani and Anderson to balance books...we talking FIFA 12 or real world here?

What planet are you living on. We will bring in Kagawa and Hazard in then play Young behind Rooney.

Think these are thoe most lame set of rumours yet. Who said all this

When was the last time we spent £85 million, regardless of who we sold?

Someone has been playing too much champ!

Wow that's quite a list would love to see bale, kagawa, hazard and torres. I think RVP just too injury prone and I think fergie and the lads could really get torres firing on all cylinders again.

Whitey

Jelavic literally whored himself around United is the last Summer transfer window and we didnt sign him.

We definitely wont sign him on the back of just 5 good months.

As for RVP,Cavani,Torres all 3 look improbable to me.

MUMBAI_BOY

Sell chicharito? What planet are you living on. Wil ferguson really buy such a young promising striker then sell him after 2 years, seeing just a glimpse of his true potential? ........ Buy the way, the answer is no.

In fact it's a pretty interesting post!
Seeing the history of Man Utd in the transfer market for the past 8 or so years taught me that Ferguson is not THAT scared to spend money. United have being spending 50 million pounds a year in a pretty regular basis.
While other teams struggle to have 8 english players, in which 4 need to be "homemade", we got Rio, Carrick, Ashley Young, Phil Jones and Smalling, all of them pretty good/awesome starters.
Not only that, but we actually tried to sign for big money David Silva, Essien, Ronaldinho G., Benzema... it was only a matter of personal preference that this lads aren't in the Old Traford field.
That being said I really woudn't be THAT scared if we see not only Hazard but Bale, an english based player, using United's outfit next year.
I would not agree with a 40 million pounds move, but the deal is not impossible. As for Nani...I really doubt any team are willing to pay 20 million pounds for a, still, incomplete player.

That started off well as Young playing centrally and Bale on the left would be good. But as soon as you said Nani and Anderson to be sold as well as Hazard AND Kagwa AND Torres coming in it got a bit far fetched. Why would we sign Hazard, Kagawa and Bale?

RedDevil19

I can see this happening and I would get very excited....until I realised my championship manager team was STILL woefulyl short in central midfield ;) I have to say this position still worries me as Martinez seems improbable and unless Pogba stays and steps up or Anderson stays fit and stars performing again we are woefully short there still and bar possibly M'Villa too I cant really think of many players possibly available to sign in that area that really do improve our team. Personally though no tseen that much of him I dont think Strootman appears the right player for us and is gettign a bit over hyped.
Invisible STuey

Are you delusional? If young did move behind Rooney what does that leave for welbeck, Hernandez and the probable other striker we will bring in to replace berbatov (who looks set to move) and Owen departing. Too much FIFA for you

22 May 2012 16:58:13
We never get a deal wrapped up. When we were closely linked with gaitan, nothing happened. Kagawa, nothing happened, hazard, guarantee nothing will happen. Were too slow in the transfer market and that has to change

What are you talking about?! The window isn't even open yet! How do you know we haven't signed anyone?
Carl

Maybe its are done but they have to wait until the transfer market opens maybe thats we they prefer to do rather than announce it like arsenal or chelsea

You do realise the international window doesn't open until July 1st?

The hold up with Kagawa is Dortmund are asking for daft money for a player with 12 months left on their contract.

Gaitan, i'm not sure if we have even bid for him or not, all we have to go on is the Portuguese version of the Sun.

And Hazard well its well documented whats going on there. The main thing is agreeing the fee with the club which correct me if i am wrong but no-one has actually done that yet.

Totaly agree over teams identify players and sign them up asap...it took us months to get berba from spurs and lost count of the players we've lost by fannying around..

Are you for real?....Transfer window isn't open yet. Last year we signed players early in the window and had all business done.

The transfer window isn't even open yet lol it is called patience mate, try it.

CnM

I cant see any confirmation announcement being made till the window opens, as it can upset selling clubs or encourage others to bid.

The poster is being inpatient. lets be honest though when was the last transfer window that got all the fans really excited, has been a while hasnt it, Nani and Anderson probably, been a lot of under whelming ones since really. Still, this summer does feel different to me anyway, time will tell
Invisible STuey

Its not the speed in which the signings are done, the problem is we havent had a marquee signing in ages. A real statement of intent. A couple of signings like this and others would want to come and play for us rather than hang around to see who else was interested

22 May 2012 15:43:15
According to the Irish press, United are looking for 2 attacking midfielders, a backup forward and a full back.

A solid United source said that Kagawa and Baines are most likely to be signed in the summer. An offer for Hazard has been made and United hopes that he will sign for "footballing reasons" since we cannot match City or Chelsea with wages.

A 15 million bid for Lewandowski has been rejected by Dortmund.

United are also looking at Modric.

https://p.twimg.com/AtgWpfPCMAA3tu7.jpg

Attacking mids are Kagawa and Hazard, stiker is Lewandowski and full back is Baines.

22 May 2012 14:57:37
I swear we have to go all out and try and sign Lucas Moura before chelsea or inter milan he is the future of football hes better than neymar, hazard, gaitan he is pure class

Chelsea has a 40million euros bid rejected

Yeah I agree he's amazing but brazil and England don't do well together

What about Ramires and Luiz at Chelsea? They have done very well.

I am not convinced the offer reported is correct. Yes it will be a bigger offer than their last offer, but it will not be that high. By exaggerating the offer the club president will hope Anzhi, PSG or another club will come in and match the offer. I would love to know the true offer, but do not think it's has high as 40m euro.

Sydney!

He'll probably stay until the after the 2014 world cup, because brazil want them to stay in the country where they are guarenteed first team football and will probably keep up their good performances
they almost have to do well in the next world cup, they will have an awesome team though
Julio Cesar
dani alves - thiago silva - dede - Marcelo
Sandro. That other guy
Lucas Ganso. Neymar
Pato or hulk

He's crazy good, but I'm not sure is he better than Hazard. Certainly got a better work ethic and a strong build.

Percy

Watching too many youtube videos??

Lmao not youtube videos its called watching football on tv and internet full matches

and i agree hes a massive risk but arent all 40m euro buys ? look at kaka wasted

They made an offer in jan window cant remember how much could of been 30mill euro maybe edd 002 would know how much.

would chelsea go for him and hazard
jred {Ed002's Note - It was 35M euros in January.}

22 May 2012 15:17:56
Hey guys and gals


Klopp claims lewandoski is going no where. no at any price.

Source

Sly Spurts

If berba is going dvb then it'll be as a sweetener in the kagwa deal.

Berba was excellent in germany.

Monk

I am not too fussed about lewandowski to be honest as we wont be able to fit him rooney and kagawa in any formation

1redarmy

Can the rumours of utd doing a swap deal stop, i can remember last year(summer) when ther was a lot of rumours of a swap deal with nani etc can we use a bit of rationale.

1. can any1 give me an example of utd previously doing this type of transfer.

2. do the eds know of any previous cases of well known clubs (table position status; for example top four clubs) using a player plus cash tactic. or even SAF doing this

i say all of this because i really dont see us using berbatov in a player swap or player + cash deal. i do however think berbatov will leave but not in the way everyone seems to think. plus i think he is valu is higher than people give him credit for plus if lewandowski is dortmonds top scorer (22) and they rate kagawa at 20 million euro then wouldnt lewandawski be in the 30-35 million euro mark, seen as he hasnt got a year left on his contract it expires in summer of 2014, and he is 23 years old (the same as kagawa), wud eat my words if we did this transfer but to my short memory of 24 years this would set precedent for SAF in his tranfer policy, im just trying to bring a sense of cognative theory(behaviour) behind the likeliness of this actualy happening

Berbatov is going to Galatasaray, so forget about the swap deal. Its not gonna happen, more so because Sir Alex has never been known to do swap deals. Unless Dortmund and Berbatov agree on a deal separately, then maybe that could knock off an amount off Kagawa's fee.

As for Lewandowski, you have to think Sir Alex is looking at adding him to the squad to make it 4 strikers. Berbatov is leaving, Owen has been released and Macheda hasn't progressed for one reason or the other. If we are going to challenge on all fronts, we need 4 strikers. If Dortmund don't manage to convince Lewandowski to sign a contract extension, there's a chance we'll get him.

James.

22 May 2012 15:11:46
According to reports in Japan,Chelsea have overtaken Manchester United as the new favourites to sign Shinji Kagawa.I knew this was gonna happen we are Sh** in transfer market fergie is not signing him coz bayern wants 20 million they say we have 100 million if we dont sign him or any other attacker then forget about trophies fergie must be bit selfish ! and sign players if he wants to win trophies

Are you really advising Fergie how to win trophies?

Bob

Shinji doesn't play for Bayern! and you will always hear stories like this... calm down

Dortmund wants 20million for Kagwa *.Sorry for that mistake

Such a bad manager is that Fergie!..can't believe how little we have won with him as our boss! Get a grip!

Dortmund will not be expecting more than around £12m IMO. Last summer he was available for 20m euros and back then that was around £17m. With one year left I think he will not go for £17m, or the £7m which the papers are reporting, I think they will meet in between at around £12m. According to Ed002 Chelsea are not interested, but it is Chelsea and they don't have shortlists, I wouldn't imagine Meireles was even in their top ten candidates before they bought him, so you never know.

Sydney!

He's not done bad in the past few years! Fact is, is that should Chelski or Monsours club want to buy someone, they can....Simple. We've just got to get used to it and hope we are more cute in our dealings. Remember, just cos a player goes for astronomical amounts of money, it doesn't mean they're going to be succesful........Just one word, Veron!

Get a grip mate, Chelsea are not interested in Kagawa at all. They don't even have a coach!

James.

Where the hell did our 100m come from , stop believing what papers are saying if I was you it'll save you a lot of disappointment .

Exactly...hence why the club isn't announcing interest in players until there signed!...signal interest, and city/Chelsea will also signal interest just to push price up!

Ferguson is undoutably the best manager in the world and has won us more than most managers would have
Get off this site if you don't know anything about football as you clearly don't !

Highly doubt it, things just being made up because there hasn't been any talk of Kagawa to United lately.. He's already met with SAF and from that point on i think the transfer is very much on with just agreeing fees with the club more than anything slowing it down. Besides he's playing in a friendly against Azerbaijan tomorrow so he's kind of busy at the moment. The window hasn't even opened yet!

Ozwald

22 May 2012 14:47:33
Just heard from a reliable source hazard will more than likely sign for us utd, he's just stalled cos of interest from chelsea which made him think again and wants to make sure utd is where he wants to go. I believe a fee with utd and lille have been agreed when Alex and David went to watch the games. It's now up to hazard, hence the thinking time needed by him..

You've basically took what @footbal_source put on twitter and made out you've been told it , lies on twitter and lies from you. {Ed007's Note - This guy on Twatter is a clown, I have tried to question him but he isn't for answering me. Please do not take things on Twatter as truth, we are not going to spend our summer answering questions about what is on there. Any posts with anything to do with Twatter will just be deleted.}

Just heard chelsea have bid £32m for moura which has surely ended any interest they had in hazard??

Whitey

Ed007, couldn't agree more, annoys me people are on here as if they've got contacts but simply copying some mug from twitter.

22 May 2012 14:42:50
Jurgen Klopp has said that he will not sell Lewandowski for any price, it appears like some were saying it may have been to hike up his wages in a new contract.

Source: Sky Sports News

I've said it here before, this one will grow legs. The only way Lewandowski and his agent will shut up is if Dortmund give the player what Man Utd has offered him. Very difficult to see that happening.

James.

22 May 2012 13:53:20
Ed do United have any genuine interest in Leighton Baines?

Cheers. Rudderpost {Ed004's Note - I don't know and I hope not}

Hey ed why do u hope not? He's been one the best left backs for the past few years.

He an all round better player than evra

Mint at set pieces, and can shoot.

Tbh ild rather have him

LUHG {Ed004's Note - Because if he is up against anyone fast or strong he has no chance. If he wasn't english he wouldn't be rated as highly as he is}

Thank Christ at last someone with the same view as me Baines blows

Pardoe

Yeah but when evra comes across anybody this year he's been smoked, most of our goals are down his side.

His positioning is poor and when going forward his crossing is as equally poor, if he can't attack and get back he should stay back.

That's just my opinion

LUHG

22 May 2012 12:49:05
berbatov was amazing what happened to owen hernandez

22 May 2012 12:35:30
united are after kagawa and in the news hazard said he wanted to go to united we dont need hazard, we have got valencia .nani ,young and mabey kagawa

We can play in the middle and as a striker just like ronaldo

Hazard is better than nani and young thats why u would sogn him

Hazard used to play on the wing but now plays more of a central role. He could play in the middle with Kagawa and Nani and Valencia on the wings. {Ed004's Note - Would prefer Kagawa through the centre and Hazard on the wings}

We could do with him,great new number 7 for united

Andyred

I feel that with Nani, Valencia, Young out and out wingers, alongside Kagawa, Rooney and Wellbeck who can play out wide, we're OK set for wide players. Though Hazard can play through the Middle, he looks at his best out wide. We should use the majority of our cash where we are weakest - Midfield. With M'Vila going for 17 Million and try to get Eriksson for 20 million along with 12 million for Kagawa (15 million Euros) that's a total of 49 million spent on three top young players. Hazard and Dortmund's Polish striker would cost 55 - 60 million with wages at least equal to the 3 players I've mentioned and we have an extra player and plug our weakest gaps. Up front Rooney, Wellbeck, Hernandez and Kagawa would suffice
Mik

22 May 2012 11:57:16
Is this site down or what? Hasn't been any rumours here all day.

Well, here's one. Berbatov could be used as a makeweight in a deal to bring Lewandowski to Old Trafford. Would love to see the Polish international scoring goals for fun at Old Trafford.

Moen#7

Or he may just be used for our real target....Kagawa

Would prefer to use him in the Kagawa deal....

Oxred

Only the fact remains hes not for sale and if they think kagawa is 20 million euro then how much do you think they wud sell lewandowski for he was their top scorer, facts people try to know whet s**t you are trying to tell people at least try and make it believable
ky87

22 May 2012 01:58:04
Lads, ladies,

Would of thought, considering that Spurs lost their golden ticket, am surprised I haven't heard any rumblings regarding Modric, Bale, VDV. Would think Bale would be a massive addition, even better than the acquisition of Hazard or Kagawa. His physicality on the left is something we are lacking.

Lorcan

Bale? Physicality?
Does he have any?
Goes down easier than Ashley Young.

Please, please, please, no Bale or Modric.

Bob