Manchester United Rumours Archive August 24 2014

24 Aug 2014 19:33:11
Hi Everyone!
Dissapointed with today's result but with the team we were playing with, it is fair result. With an inexperience defense line as of Keane, Blackett and 2nd grade midfield of fletcher and cleverly, this is pretty fair result . If Shaw had replaced young and Similarly Herrera for cleverley, Carrick for fletcher, Evans for Keane then we would have been much much better.

Now I don't know how many of u remember me but I did tell u that Di Maria's situation will be solved within 7 days . That was couple of days ago and I was right and the person who told me about was spot on. From the day I posted about it, his condition accelerated and now we have very much signed him . Apparently there is more going on behind the scenes. We are trying to offload hell lot of players and there are buyers too but it is ridiculously low money being offered. There is not much improvement in Vidal saga. He does want to move to us but does not care about even if the transfer fails . We have submitted a bid but juventus have not fully turned it down nor have nowhere accepted it. The situation is far more confusing. Benatia has rejected us because of wages demand and Roma too were not happy with the money being discussed. There is no any bid but money is being discussed. It will all be more clear before friday . I previously stated that the person I know said that we will sign 4 more players( it was 3 weeks ago I think ) . 2 big signings and 2 shocker . Rojo was shocker, Di Maria a big signing and now 2 are left. There is good chance of Vidal being the other big signing unless Woodward mess up and shocker is well very very secret ( Man Utd is being very very locked in) . There is something more to worry. Even though the rest of player we sign agree to move to us, we are not in much healthy position to sign them with whole money at once. We are discussing it in terms of installments (big reason why negotiation is taking very much time ). After signing Di Maria we are thin in money (we do have buck load of money but all is not for transfer ) . We have maybe 45m + to spend and woodward is trying hard to use that money to sign the players. Well! Nothing can be said now but We do have good chance of signing Vidal which I can say . The person who told me all this has been pretty much spot on i.e from bale, mata, shaw to now so I believe him as much as sky sports. I know some of the people may not believe me here but it's what I have been told and felt it would be right to share it here.

Thanks for the update
Much appreciated

Anything is better than nothing after all

Fair enough if you have a source regarding transfers. But how on earth can you claim that utd have around £45mil left to spend? I'm sure we are trying to pay for players in installments (as far as i'm aware most transfers are usually done like this) but how does your source claim to know an accurate amount of money left? Does he have access to Utd's HSBC account titled 'Transfer Kitty'!?

25 Aug 2014 11:28:30
wizarldy!
I haven't gone in depth with him but according to him We were not interested in Di maria earlier . His availability change the whole scenario. The rumours about we having 180 m was pretty much much correct but club was only thinking to limit it up to maybe 100-120 range .I don't know how he got to know about 45+ but it was what he claimed

24 Aug 2014 14:13:20
Guiellme Balague now saying Di Maria will travel to Manchester tomorrow and wants to be able to play against Burnley

24 Aug 2014 17:57:11
SSN reporting an agreed fee of £63.9m for Di Maria, good player , but my that's a lot of money, only hope this doesn't effect our move for a an accomplished midfielder.

I think it is safe to say that we all want that to happen!

This needs to happen. Di maria needs to play as soon as possible.
if you watched the game today you would know we need a player of his quality. Ashley young should feel disgusted with himself after his performance. There is no pace or energy in the team and at least 7 or 8 of the players in the starting line up today looked like they were only there to get payed and not bothered about the result. Also the bench is not one of championship contenders. We had two kids at centre back for majority of the game. We need to sign two cb's and at least another 2 world class forwards/midfielders. Ashley young doesn't deserve to wear the famous red shirt!

24 Aug 2014 19:30:07
If he does sign tomorrow, no chance of his work permit being sorted in time for Tuesday, much like rojo could not play today.

Burnley game not till Saturday. We have mk dons on Tuesday.

24 Aug 2014 13:19:15
There have been smidgens of reports that MU are close to signing Martin Odegaard. He's only a kid, but many top European clubs are after him. There was talk about him going to Celtic to continue his relationship with the manager, but I think that ship may have sailed. Does anyone have any info on this?

He is a very talented midfielder only 15. He previously had short training sessions with us and Bayern in January of 2014. He began training with the senior team at the age of 13 and last season made 16 appearances for Strømsgodset IF.

Earlier this month he was called into the Norwegian senior squad for the game against the UAE. if he plays he will break a 104 year record as the youngest Norwegian international.

I seen his game against IK Start just over a week ago where Strømsgodset IF won 3-2. He made all 3 assists. A very good player who can pick a pass
and go pass a player. He is still on a youth contract so as things stand United could go for him without paying an initial transfer fee but they would have to pay a compensation package.

24 Aug 2014 13:42:56
Januzaj level talent. Will be a world beater. No idea if we want him or are in a leading position to sign him

24 Aug 2014 09:11:18
Man city apparently trying to stall di maria from making decision to join man united hope its rubbish.

{Ed002's Note - Just to be clear so people don't get too carried away. As has been explained, Manchester United has proposed a price for the player that meets the expectations of Real Madrid. The player, I understand, is keen to make the move. PSG have been rather frustrated in their efforts to sell Lavezzi to free up space in the squad and wages for Di Maria. As such they are, at this time, unable to put an offer on the table. Manchester City has asked Madrid for a little time to see if they could be in a position to make an offer as well - and do not rule that out entirely. This week will see many of the remaining transfer protagonists gathered together for a couple of days (Wednesday and Thursday) and this will provide an opportunity to complete a number of the transactions that have been agreed in principle, to provide for a few moves that have not so far attracted attention and to perhaps discuss and agree a move or two that is entirely unexpected. Manchester United should be in a position to complete the transfer of Di Maria, but do not be surprised by a twist or two just yet. All of the "major" clubs are still trying to get some business completed. PSG will not buy for the sake of it, even having already lost out on a couple of high-profile players - probably including Di Maria.}

Thanks ED,
All will be revealed on Wednesday and Thursday or perhaps Friday. Bit off topic here, but with regard an earlier comment you made, and without bringing Sydney's ass back into things, at what point would a mouse ever see a Dolphin?

{Ed002's Note - Where do you think crop circles come from? It is actually the Mesonyx invading the natural habitat of the mice.

Do I have to explain everything?}

City have spent wat they can they will break fifa rules unless they sell first and can't see them selling 50million worth in 8 days unless they wait till january but can't c di maria sitting on bench or stands at madrid till then

Fireman, they don't have to sell £50m worth of players. £20m raised in sales would probably be enough. Negredo for example, there's Nastasic. If PSG sell Lavezzi or Rabiot then they will become serious contenders for his signature. Don't forget he does prefer a move to PSG and if they offer the same amount of cash for him that we have offered him, he could join them still. MU are favourites right now but clearly it's not a done deal by any stretch of the imagination. Personally I think it will happen as I cannot see the club letting this one go after all the publicity. It would be very damaging to the club.

I would like to know what these "deals in principle" are. Could be very interesting or damaging for us.

Ya I can see this been done utd wnt let this slip and I can see de jong and blind aswell coming if this hapens I can see us title contenders I ting he will wait till january or nxt summer for strootman

Glad we cleared that up then, crop circles have something to do with sydney's posterior, might post this on the conspiracy page! Thanks Ed!

Fireman, we are still in the mix for Vidal, but have we spent most of our funds on Di Maria? I think it will become apparent over the next week by the next couple of transfers we do.

@Sydney!

I think perhaps that is why we are trying to raise cash for Vidal by selling Welbeck and Chicharito? Perhaps Kagawa could go too? Fellaini out on loan as well.

Sydney. How do you know di Maria prefers psg over utd?

SouthRed, the editor confirmed Di Maria's preferred destination a while ago, but PSG have been unable to guarantee him a move. Obviously since then we have jumped to the front of the queue. It seems we are definitely where he wants to go now.

RF, I couldn't agree more. I think the likes of Hernandez, Welbeck, Fellaini & Kagawa can raise funds. I do wonder if it was Fellaini or Kagawa that we offered Juventus in the last bid. Vidal really would be an amazing summer.

24 Aug 2014 12:17:34
There's a lot of talk of RM wanting €80m for Di Maria. It's getting a bit silly now with all the media guessing on what RM want for Di Maria.

Ed002, is there a number RM want? I presume that they aren't holding an auction, so there must be a number RM have given to clubs?

Is it really as high as €80m? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I would not get too wrapped up in the money Syd. Are the papers including other costs in the figures they are saying? Are they getting confused between £, € and $? Are they including all of the additional costs over the coming years? Are they including the intermediary fees? What time was the super agent due to land in Frankfurt from Singapore? Is he going to Manchester?

I got a load of abuse last night after Balague said it was a done deal or whatever he said on Twitter last night. I have explained again the situation this morning - see above.

Manchester United have met the financial expectations of Real Madrid and the player will be able to work with his representatives to try and complete the transaction in the coming days. This is done and dusted. Cost wise I am told that the initial fee is well below the €80M you mention but depending on the success the club has over the length of his contract could potentially rise to that eventually - winning the league, winning in Europe etc. I don't know the detail, it is unimportant.

However, the club will still need to meet the expectations being put forward for the player and they will need to meet the fees associated with the transfer that will need to be payable to agents, representatives, intermediaries, a number of leeches and a super agent. Once this has happened and he has passed his medical etc. the deal can be completed.

To be clear - this week will see many of the remaining transfer protagonists gathered together for a couple of days (Wednesday and Thursday) and this will provide an opportunity to complete a number of the transactions that have been agreed in principle, to provide for a few moves that have not so far attracted attention and to perhaps discuss and agree a move or two that is entirely unexpected. It may be at this time that the dotted line can be signed on for Di Maria.

In the interim, I would expect Real Madrid to let him have his medical and get a bunch of the other logistical odds and ends sorted out.

I have said that I believe Manchester United should be in a position to complete the transfer of Di Maria, but I also said "do not be surprised by a twist or two just yet". Those fees to agents etc. are not insignificant.}

24 Aug 2014 12:17:46
Ed002, I know you don't like commenting on reports in the media, but quite a few journalists are reporting today that Real Madrid have raised their asking price for Di Maria to 75mil pounds. Any truth in this?

If true, no matter how much I want us to sign him, we should walk away. Clever negotiating from Real Madrid though. Leak the story, create a media storm, get the other team's fanbase excited and then bump up the asking price and ask for premium knowing United are desperate.

Thank you for the clarification Ed as always.

If ADM is signed, I for one will be hoping he ends up costing us €80m as that will indicate we are back where we belong challenging for trophies.

Any change with Vidal? Or am I pushing my luck :)

24 Aug 2014 16:35:02
REDFAITH,

I hope to god you posted that before Ed002 wrote the essay. Thanks ed for the info, just keep our fingers crossed now.

@GDS2

I did post it before he posted his detailed answer mate.

24 Aug 2014 00:30:05
Hi Eds

Do you know of any Utd interest in De Jong and Veltman?

Think De Jong would do a good job for relatively little money and Veltman is a promising young defender plus both used to working with Van Gaal's systems.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of an approach for Veltman. De Jong might be a short-term option for midfield but I would not think the first choice.}

We have too many defenders with potential that the problem we need to sign one with the experience to help bring them all along