Manchester United Rumours Archive January 25 2012

 

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25 Jan 2012 22:26:00
We don't need a player we need barca scouts ! 90% team home grown ...

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I would suggest the youth coaches deserve much of the credit.

TK-Red

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It's not so much the scouts its the contact time the coaches get with the players at youth level which fergie has spoken about before, and lets not forget how much money they spend and how big their wage bill is

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25 Jan 2012 19:09:45
What does everyone think of the rumour about us putting in a 20m bid for Rafael van de vaart?if its true and we get him.I wouldn't be unhappy about that.hes shown a lot of qualitys for spurs....

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Good player but he is almost 29 and cant finish a game for Spurs so no, not for me. Especially not at that price.

TK-Red

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First ive heard of it, have the ed's heard anything along these lines??
HERBIE {Ed007's Note - News to me as well, sorry.}

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As they bought him for 8 million I doubt we would go for him at 20. He isn't the type of player we want anyway as he can only play in that position.

Welsh Dragon

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No chance, he's a good player but not top class, and he can't last more than 70 minutes a game.

Andy B

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Can be a class act, but he does seem to pick up injuries quite regularly. He's 28 as well, really don't see it happening.

TM

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I know its not a reliable source,but it was up on caughtoffsh1te.com.its more than likely bull....

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We already have too many injury prone mid field players, Cleverly and Anderson both ridiculous with injuries and with vdv's hamstrings na pass on dat one

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I'll tell you what I think of the so called rumours of us in for VDV, completely and utterly false. I doubt we'll buy a spurs player again, Daniel Levy bends us over and shafts us for millions.

United Till I Die 1987

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Injured too often, never lasts 90mins...Hargreaves, owen, Anderson anyone?

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25 Jan 2012 15:39:07
According to Setanta - Newcastle have bid £4m for Ravel Morrison

Gino

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From £500k to £4m, highly doubtful.

rpc

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Reports are that Ravel Morrison is at NUFC training ground

Gino {Ed002's Note - This is just more Twitter trash. If people are just going to post nonsense from Twitter please be decent enough to say so. Perhaps you could caveat the messages with something like: "I saw this on Twitter and I am naive and stupid enough to believe it to be true so I am sharing it with you".}

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4 million for a lad who has played hardly any first team games with less than 6 mths left on his contract. Hmmmmm, I don't think so.... HERBIE

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Can't be right, Ravel wont be out of bed yet.

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You know its a hoax when training ground is mentioned, when ever have you seen him training ;p

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Probably ended up in Newcastle in a stolen car!

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I really don't think they, but he will be offloaded sooner rather than later.

United Till I Die 1987

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25 Jan 2012 15:27:59
I watched Iker Muniain play in the Bilbao vs Real match on the weekend, and i was very very impressed. Many have said that he has attitude problems etc, but his attitude was second to none. Bilbao went down to 10, with Munian playing through the middle/left, he never once failed to track back, work hard for the team.

Muniain is a very talented player, he had a couple of shots that looked dangerous, turned the Madrid players a couple of times and they couldn't stick to him. He has a great left foot and is a better bet to come in than Bale or some other good left footer. We need a left footed player and we need someone creative like Rooney, i think with the system we are playing then he would be good on the left side of midfield, at only 19 years of age he has great potential.

Spanish agents have linked him to us and believe that he will end up here - i hope its the case.

RedDevil19 {Ed002's Note - Muniain has been touted around the clubs on behalf of Bilbao - and two clubs (including MUFC) in England have certainly been approached all ready. The asking price is 40M euros. They won't get it. I don't think clubs would risk half of that on a player who is young and has shown himself to be pretty immature. Roma interest is still there but perhaps an eventual move to Barcelona beckons.}

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Well 40 million Euros is a redicuilous sum for someone of his age, i don't think they will get anywhere near that. Fergie would pay 20 in my mind, that seems to be more or less his limit for young talents.

Any news if United have actually refused to pay the money for Kovacic?

RedDevil19 {Ed002's Note - Arsenal, Tottenham, Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid and no doubt others have an interest in Dinamo Zagreb's Kovacic. Seen to be one for the future but I suspect that he could spend time in Germany gaining experience before a move to one of the more major players in European football. In the summer, Barcelona offered up a small financial payment for Kovacic on what I understand to be an 8 year contract with the first two years back on loan in Zagreb.}

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Thought munian had a 21 million relese fee?? well worth a punt

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25 Jan 2012 12:52:59
Eds, is there any way to upload a picture to the site? {Ed007's Note - Use the Sightings section on the right hand side of the screen. At the bottom there is an upload facility.}

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Cheers Bond, I want to upload the picture of Welbeck opposite the Emptihad {Ed007's Note - Ok mate. It's easy to do.}

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25 Jan 2012 11:54:41
Does anyone think we might go in for clyne this window now. crytal palace out and with us injury struck, maybe worth the gamble.
I thought we might buy him and loan him back for the rest of the season, if palace were in the final, but could be useful now.

aaallj5

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Waste of money IMO mate, terrible last night again. Not sure why we are apparently even looking at him. I think Fergie is pushing British talent ATM but he just isnt good enough. I'd play Toni right back personally.
Syd2

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He's 20 years old and is the captain of crystal palace. Won club player of the year last season, and generally is a consistent performer. The fee being mentioned is around about £3m which would represent good sell on value. I think he has potential for sure..

Ozwald

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Def overrated, big game for palace last night and they got owned. Age, older than he should be for that standard, captain? What's the average age of the team, 23 i think, not that bigger surprise. Again, clubs player of the year purely due to squad age/ability. Zaha is the best player in that team, Clyde is not good enough for United
Syd2

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OH right.. So united send scouts to the game last night just for fun? Obviously they could have been watching Zaha too because he was great again last night. They wouldn't make him they're captain at that age if he wasn't a strong part of their team that can also influence the other players to play better as well.. He got a yellow card last night early on from preventing someone getting passed on goal, from then on you have to be very careful not to get another card so was naturally more hesitant before making tackles. Didn't have the best of games last night you're right, but he's one of their most consistent players. Think you must be a bit blind.

Ozwald

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If we wait until the summer we could get him for 300k apparantly (compo), if we go for him now its 3million, either way its worth taking a risk on this lad as we could at least get the money back if it does'nt work out. I think he has potential, reminds me a little of Micah Richard with his build.... HERBIE

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Syd2,

So by watching them in 1 or 2 games you have decided Zaha is the best player in that team despite Clyne winning player of the season selected by people who saw every game?

How many big games has Rooney not performed well in? If we didn't sign him on one bad performance where would we be now?

If the average age of Palace is 23 and he is 21 that means there are some older players in that team, maybe 28/29 and Freedman has decided Clyne should be captain.

He's 20, how old should you be for 'that standard'?

'They got owned' is a bit of a silly thing to say when they only conceded an own goal in 180 minutes and played for 60 of those minutes with 10 men. If they had scored more penalties and won the game would you still suggest they 'got owned'?

IMO we need a steady right back and for £3 million he would be a good buy.

Smithy

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People let me clarify my point. I (as in me and only me) do not think he is good enough to be a united player. You can think whatever u like but I am certain that he will not be signed. Also, I fully appreciate that united send scouts to games for good reason, its just firstly I they did for JUST him they would have been dissapointed considering the opposition, an secondly I doubt it was JUST for him anyway. Blind you suggest? Let's try and be sensible Ozzy eh there's a good lad, grow up a bit, comments like that are daft. Plenty of youth in that palace team to observe, but your boy Nathaniel is not up to the standard we need.
There is a MILE between championship standard and premier league. How old was Walcott and Oxlaide chamberlain when Arsenal snapped em up? Trust me, he is not good enough. Thankyou
Syd2

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The best player on the pitch last night was the sub, Sean Scannell. I think United ought to be looking at him. He will be class.

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Id rather read the nonsense that we're signing sneijder than read about these place players every day , they're nowhere near as good as anything in our squad they're playing in the championship yet people think they'll be good signing for us , rubbish

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Above poster, in this case it would be a good buy. Not a lot of money involved means not to much of a risk, If it does'nt work out for whatever reason he would be sold on at a profit, to me thats good business. I don't think anybody is saying he will a class signing and most probs agree that at the moment he may not be good enough for us but he may turn out to be a great squad player for little money.... HERBIE

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Why not just play some of our reserves and sell them instead of paying any fee or any wages , cannot see any logic in buying players like that when we have better in the reserves

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25 Jan 2012 11:45:16
its quite clear that chelsea have given up on modric as they have already tried to sign three other creative midfielders this window, de bruyne, hazard and willian.

It looks like they have signed de bruyne a promising 20 year old this is what we should be doing instead of splashing 55 million on the finished product just spend 10-15 on potential such as; Ericsson, Rodwell, El Shaarawy, Lamela ect.

Anon

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If you mean Eriksen from Ajax (apologies if you dont) I think he would cost substantially more than 10-15

TM

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i would value him around 18-22m

Anon

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I'm sorry for being a bit slow but i've heard Rodwell's name over and over for the past two years. A) ive never heard of any united interest in the news. B) why we want to spend big money on a young english player when there is alot better out there - don't get the whole rodwell thing at all, never been impressed by him.

We have young talent in Pogba for the midfield and have been liked the look of him but at the min we need a proven midfield playmaker and stopper IMO

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Yes Anon but that is potential, Giovani dos santos had potential, rabiu ibrahim had potential where are they now(giovani isnt wanted by anyone and ibrahim is at celtic) I think we would be better paying 50 mil for modric (the finished product) than potential

Aronaldo7 {Ed007's Note - What's wrong with being at CFC???? Less of that talk :-)

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I think it was last summer, united had 'confirmed' a deal for rodwell and it was '100%' done according to the sun he shows a lot of potential and promise he is definitely one for the future impressed a lot of people in his international performances.

Anon

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I find it ironic that your name is 'aronaldo7' a player that we payed 12m for, he showed potential and we gambled yet your against the idea.

Anon

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Eriksen wouldnt be a huge gamble in my opinion. He's a very gifted player, a lot of youngsters have talent and potential but a few have that something else, which I believe he does.

I would of expected a higher valuation than 18m but that's probably me being pessimistic.

TM

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25 Jan 2012 11:27:07
Does anyone think hernandez will start against liverpool instead of welbeck?
have not seen much of him lately.

SteUTD

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Hope not seen as he is still struggling to control the ball, his team mates probably prefer to kick the ball against the church railings than pass it to him.

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Play him right up top chasing through balls against the likes of carragher......yes please!

Robbo

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Welbeck has showed good form recently, I personally would prefer him to start because he's more physical, has got pace (as has hernandez) and I think could possibly cause some problems for them at the back.

Unless he picks up a knock, I'd expect him to start. Never know what fergie is going to do though.

TM

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Wouldnt surprise me if chicha & berba started tbh

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25 Jan 2012 11:09:12
'Strider98'

yes as syd said when he joined he was 15k we then tripled this which gets your 45k a week not 60k

Anon

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25 Jan 2012 09:19:36
Morning all, just reading all this stuff regarding Modric.

I think we are interested but we all know Spurs are not easy to deal with and will want alot of money for him, forget 55mil there is no way he is worth that sort of money. Plus Modric said he would prefer to stay in London and Chelsea are always going to be interested plus have the cash to splash considering there position atm.

Personally i dont think we should even try to buy him, if we went for Sneijder 25mil (IMO we will not after his antics last summer) and that would still leave us money for another 1 or 2 players....

Or you could go for the most outrageous move for Ronaldo to return, he did always say he would love to come back to england and utd is his club.....

what are your thoughts edds/syd?

Charlie

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Note to all future posters. If you want people to take your post seriously, do not mention Ronaldo returning even if you truly believe it possible in your deluded little head.

There are far more pressing matters to talk about.

Sneijdar is never coming.

Modric is more likely but we don't have £55m to spend especially on one player.

Nobody coming this January, possibly 1-2 cheapish midfielders in the summer.

RED_SKY

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Modric is not worth anywhere near 55mil - no matter how much money we had to spend. At 15 -20 he might be worth a punt on.

More of this sort of thinking and you would buy Carroll for 35mil !! :)

Mike

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its a rumour site!! ppl should be able to post wot they want. if u dont like it then DONT READ

matt...

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Oh red sky is upset wit ronaldo talk boo hoo no one cares Wat you think serious iv been tellin syd to come down off the high horse but I wasn't payin attention to who was on it next my mistake every one wit rumours for this site please don't post them in case you upset our lil princesses these are not fact mearly rumours so back the f&@ off

Young Irish

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Get lost Red_Sky, anyone can say what they want on here. If someone said i'd love Messi here you have to respect their opinions. If you don't like it then leave mate.

RedDevil19

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25 Jan 2012 09:17:19
Has anyone heard confirmation that SAF was refused the funding to try to tempt Kovacic to United? If this is true then it sets a dangerous precedent. It was reported on a respectable footy site so i have no reason to believe it is totally fabricated. To me it could mean one of two things, we're as strapped for cash as most of us suspected or the Glaziers are keeping their fists clenched until an adequate bid from Qatar is accepted in the near future?

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LOL, 'respectable footy site', ? It's an atrocious site, 90% of the stories they publish are fabricated purely to get hits. Do not believe a word the site posts.

rpc

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What ever happened to the Qatari/Kuwaiti royal somesh!t taking over in the summer of 2012? I remember quite a lot of people talking about this last summer but haven't heard anything of it since!

Ozwald

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Qatar won't take us over as they already have the majority share in PSG. It's against fifa rules to own 2 clubs. I can't see them selling PSG after they pumped all their money into it.

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Above poster you do realise there is more than 1 person in Qatar do you not? There is more than one oil rich family who could choose to launch a takeover if they wish. As it happens, I dont see it happening any time soon but PSG really have no relevance in the matter.

TK-Red

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So Malaga are also owned by a Qatari. So there is no reason why either an Al-Thani or Misned would buy United. However, I spoke to one of the guys involved in the 2022 bid, a yonk who knew as much about football (the playing side - he was extremely clued up on the business side of things) as Victor Anichebe does about social stratifications in the GCC. Anyhow, the shady yonk mentioned that the Heir apparent is a United fan but the royal family has little intention of buying United. Though he did mention that if it were floated on the Singapore stock exchange, they would be interested in buying up a fair amount. His reason for them not going in for the full monty was the difficulty and sheer size of the deal - that struck me like a bulls**t reason... He got really defensive when I kept pressing him on the issue.

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25 Jan 2012 04:50:42
had a pal from work taking the pishe saying he knew for a fact rooney will be sold come summer and even showed me the slip from the bookies when said was load o rubbish and if was a 'lock
' he would bet on it
(was pretty embarrassing tbh)
i am hoping he is wrong but he was very confident and am pretty sure he cant afford to waste £80 on such a bet
i think we would really struggle without him so am a bit worried if true so has anyone heard anything regarding rooney leaving?

dags

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Maybe your "pal" is just stupid?

Mike

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Really hope that this is not true but would surprise me. Rooneys attitude and work rate has dropped since he signed his big contract and he does not seem interested, I think maybe the promise of big siginings and his relationship with Fergie might be the reason he seems to have no interest also us going out of the champions league did not help. He is 26 now and should be showing leadership on the pitch but all he seems to be doing is moaning.

Damian M

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Yeah its b****cks mate

Woffsta

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24 Jan 2012 23:55:12
The S*n are reporting that Welbeck turned down a £27k a week contract with a further £5k in potential bonus add ons a few weeks ago. But he is about to sign a deal worth £37k a week with a further £5k in potential bonus add ons. So potential £42k a week with appearances/goals etc. I know it's the S*n and it must be taken with a pinch of salt, but it's so detailed and £42k a week does sound about right. It's on par with Cleverley, Jones, Smalling & Hernandez. Now we need Pogba & Morrison to agree terms.

Sydney!

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At least welbeck has earned this wage and has the right to demand the same as his co workers unlike Morrison, pogba ect. I think they should earn there right to demand extortionate wages we have a structure to keep.

Anon

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Idd but give them a game to earn it

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Fairly sure Chicharito earns more than £40k a week?

Ozwald

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Last I saw was that he was a "middle tier earner", earning up to 90,000 pw including bonuses.

That's not confirmed though.

TM

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Pogba & Morrison aren't asking for what Welbeck is getting thankfully, so a deal should be reached with both of them if they want to stay.

Sydney!

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'Oz'

I wouldn't take any notice of the £75k a week rumours, Hernandez was only on £15k a week when he joined, the club would never have upped it to £75k a week after one year. I would bet he is on similar wages to that of Jones, Cleverley & Smalling.

Sydney!

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I'm fairly sure Chicarito is on 60K a week. We tripled his wages to keep Madrid and the sorts away.

Strider98

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Syd you know I respect you as a fellow supporter, but this is why people on here doubt your credibility.

You slag off every newspaper under the 'sun', including The Sun, but now they're reporting something that tickles your fancy or falls in line with your own opinions, it's worth sharing?

Come on man.

RED_SKY {Ed002's Note - I hope Syd has not been "slagging off" the IHT.}

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He will be slagging of the FT next -
Mike

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What i personally think about the pogba and morrison's saga is that it's just a smoke screen to take away all the pressure from Man utd players as everyone including the media is concentrating about these 2 brilliant talents being allowed out of Man Utd.

I doubt if Sir Alex will ever let these two leave.it has gone as far as man city,chelsea and even arsenal circling around and being distructed by these rumours to even start checking on these two.

it's time for the mind games remember,and you all know who's the master of all that..

Mr.Fox (Zambia)

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24 Jan 2012 23:35:21
Just wondering, did anybody see the poster of Danny Welbeck that Nike put up on the side of a shop opposite the Emptihad? Brilliant!

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