Manchester United Rumours Archive September 25 2012

25 Sep 2012 15:22:16
If Jose Mourinho was to replace SAF this summer, how about getting Steve Clarke in as his no.2?

How about Giggs or someone associated to the club in some way? Steve Clarke has nothing to do with our club and why would he want to be a number two now he is a number one?

Sydney!

Gary Neville, seems to have a love for the tactics of the game. Doing very well under Roy at the moment he is a United legend after all. Him, Giggs and Scholes will all be involved in the coaching staff in 5 years time in one way or another i reckon.

Ozwald

I was going to say exactly the same Sydney. Also, If we were ever to have a technical director then that position is made for Scholes! It would be good to keep Ferdinand with the club if he doesn't do another season because he is great with the youth players. Perhaps give him a youth team coaching position.

Dan

2 years pep ! I'm pretty sure he's comin and the break suits him down to the ground . Don't be surprised if he takes the assistant job at the beginning of June , slate me if ya like but I'm prepared to eat my words . SHANDY

You have a point there Shandy because I remember an interview with Pep where he was asked if he would take over SAF and he said jokibgly "only if he stays there to help me". Could happen but I think its more likely that Pep would be manager and SAF would help him out in another capacity.

Dan

I think mourinho would bring his own coaching staff and his number 2 is Karanka so I'm guessing he'll be the number 2 If Jose takes over

Hammond

I think mourinho would bring karanka with him, after all he said he's family

DaInfamousNoName

Laurent Blanc for me. Has built a good rep overseas, worked wonders with the French national squad and has experience with the club.

Laurent Blanc for me. Has built a good rep overseas, worked wonders with the French national squad and has experience with the club.

Fergie didn't have man united connections when he 1st became manager and that turned out alright

I think it will be Pep, Fergie going upstairs, with Giggs as assistant. Scholesy first team coach. I think Rio will want a more senior/public role than youth coach, probably go elsewhere and Neville will probably go into management.

Whatever happens we need an overhaul in the Summer if we are to stop this downward trejectary.

Sween

Its david moyes and he will be great.
bringing fellaini and baines too.

25 Sep 2012 15:13:43
Vidic out for 2 months!
Good job smalling will be back soon!!
Q

25 Sep 2012 13:43:20
i see there's talk on the succession. Its simple. If we have ambition and want to be the best, reclaiming our place at the top of the english game and mounting a proper challenge in europe then we have to hire the best. That means jose or pep. If we don't have that ambition and are content to challenge for a european place and a good cup run or if we're cheap then get moyes. Mort

I agree with that to a point but i'm just not as bowled over with Pep as some of you are. I think he was lucky that he managed one of the greatest sides in my life time at their peak. I don't doubt he is a good manager but until he has proven his ability at another club and he has proven his ability to over come adversity(of which he had none at Barca) then i still see him as a young talented yet unproven manager. I'd say the same about Moyes as well, if he could go to a team like Spurs and show his ability then i'd be okay with him being manager, although he wouldn't be my first choice. Personally i'd like to see Laurent Blanc get the job, he knows the club but has shown his ability in taking a mid table team to the title and he turned around the French national team as well. Other names on the list should be Jose obviously, Marcelo Bielsa, Jurgen Klopp, Van Marwijk, Diego Simeone, Joachim Loew and Unai Emery.

Shappy

I would love for it to be one of them, but will they be too expensive and want a hell of a lot more transfer budget? I'll probably get some hate now
U.T.I.D (Tommy)

Would love to see pep as the new manager when sir alex finaly calls it a day but would be gutted if jose came in he is a man with little class he always says to much and always goes to far with his actions were as pep is loyal has integraty and gets his team playing in a more honest and entertaining way moyes would be good but pep would be the best option after sir alex who i would like to start taking hgh to stay at the helm as long as pos lol

Jose is not the right manager to take over from alex he plays too defensive doesnt focus on youth also he likes to spend alot of money on players which the glazers dont like, pep is a poor manager i wouldnt him in charge as he doesnt know much about football yes hes won loads of trophys but he did have the best team in the world we have only ever had one foreign manager and i dont see us employing another david moyes will take over the club when alex retires he works well on a low budget helps develop the youngsters such as rooney, rodwell, baxter etc he can spot unkown players who are great such as arteta, cahill etc has taken everton to 4 top 6 finishes even took them to 4th in the prem and take them into the champions league plus hes scottish and our best managers have been scottish sir matt busby, sir alex ferguson tommy docherty
THE HEMMINATOR {Ed007's Note - The three you mentioned are all foreigners (as is Moyes) yet you say Utd only ever had one foreign manager.....

Totally disagree, pep and jose adopted great teams or had millions to spend building a team with possibly the exception of porto, however moyes has been loyal to everton and continued to build good teams with very limited resources and with mostly consistent finishes. Moyes would be my first choice.

Carsaythered

I would love to see Jose succeed Sir Alex not sure about pep tho, He inherited a great team and yes he tweaked it a little they were untouchable for a couple of years but I'm not sure how much he had to do with that! I can't really see past Jose in my opinion!

Jamal

Jose for entertainment value, Pep to develop youth and Moyes for proven management ability.

We should bring in all three as a a coaching dreamteam.

Andrew B

Every club Jose has managed he has had massive amounts of money and he has brought top players in. We are looking to build from youth and despite his ability to get the best out of his players I think he would completely mess up the future of our youth players. Pep with Giggs as assistant would be perfect!

Dan

Ed 007 when i say foreign i mean non british scotland is in britain any socttish players would not need a work permit to play in england coz they are british
THE HEMMINATOR {Ed007's Note - Who mentioned players. So Alex Ferguson is known as a 'fiery British person'? if you are in a different country from where you are born then you are a foreigner.}

Moyes = hoof it up there

Pardoe

Ho ho Ed. We don't have independence yet. Kuala. {Ed007's Note - Still different countries, so they are foreigners.}

Hemminator, you know jack shat about football and geography aswell lad, Jose & pep bad managers, ha yeah oreet, did Jose have loads of money at Porto and inter??

(pep is a poor manager i wouldnt him in charge as he doesnt know much about football)

What a muppet Pep doesnt know alot about football ive heard it all now

are we talking about this Pep.

In his first season as manager, Barça won the treble of La Liga, the Copa del Rey, and the Champions League. In doing so, Guardiola became the youngest UEFA Champions League-winning manager ever. The following season, Guardiola and Barcelona won the Supercopa de España, the UEFA Super Cup, and the FIFA Club World Cup, bringing the manager's tally to the maximum of six trophies in six competitions in one year, thus completing six trophies sextuple in two seasons.

On 8 September 2011, Guardiola was awarded the Catalan parliament's Gold Medal, the highest honour.[4] On 9 January 2012, Guardiola received the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Men's Football award, with 42% of the votes, ahead of Manchester United's Alex Ferguson, who received 16%, and José Mourinho, coach of Real Madrid, who had 12%.

Pep was involved in bringing through the current team that they have. That's what we need and yes I know Jose managed Porto but they had some excellent players there already. Jose is not the man to develop youth but Pep is perfect.

Dan

Pep imo is not good enough to manage utd he has won a few trophys at barca but he was at barca they win trophies on their own without the management tbh i never said jose was a bad manager i said he wouldnt suit our club going back to the geography thing i brought up ;players because when they join a club they have to check their work permits sorted out if they are foriegn yet scottish players do not require work permits to play in england so they are classed as not foriegn i do know alot about football and geography i know history about football from 1890s dont know what your problem is ed 007 i have never insulted or bin rude to you
THE HEMMINATOR

25 Sep 2012 09:18:12
Sydney what can you tell me about the lad from Ajax I think he is called Fischer. Is he all that? I AM KLOOT

Why what have you heard?

He is the bees knees so to speak. Best player in last season's NextGen series and scored a very good hat-trick against Liverpool. Him and Henriquez would make the most deadliest 18 year old attack in the world. Ajax and Denmark are very excited by this player.

Sydney!

Also something which is very interesting is that he has the same agent as Buttner.

Sydney!

His debut was v psv in community shield equivelant. he was pretty poor tbh he hasnt featured since this season. im a big follower of Ajax and havent seen much but hes held in v v high regard as is davy Klaasen (probably the better of the 2 atm)

ms85

25 Sep 2012 11:34:39
I've watched him a couple of times and I think he could be something very special if he reaches his full potential. He likes to play slightly on the left and cut in onto his right foot abit like how Henry used to play. And the lad is clinical in front of goal and is able to score all types of goals from great team goals to thunderous thirty yarders to tap ins. Have you heard anything regarding him Kloot?

Shappy

I'll tell u we were interested in him this window just gone. I think 8m euros Ajax were saying he would cost. They rate him very highly. It's probably to late for United now. Spain & Italy plus other EPL clubs have seen the reviews on this young talent. Could now cost us 15m euros by next summer.

TJ

Viktor Fischer I think it is... From what I have seen he could be a class act but I am not sure if he would be better playing behind a striker or up top..... Are we seriously interested because if we are and manage to get him that is Rooney, RVP, Welbeck, Hernandez, Henriquez and him....... In all honesty I could see Rooney or Hernandez leaving in the summer.

Imagine if we did get Fischer we could have a future line up like this:

_________Johnstone
Vermijl_M.Keane_Blackett_?
_________Tunnicliffe
_____Powell______Lingard
_Henriquez_W.Keane_Fischer

Shappy

Syd! do you think the agent issue may have played a small part in the signing of Buttner? The scout said he was the 3-4th best LB in Holland so perhaps this was a factor? We all know how SAF and United like to affiliate themselves with the most "helpful" agents.

TK-Red

TK, perhaps, but I think Buttner was targeted due to his attacking ability. He was selected for Holland's 36-man Euros squad too. So I think the manager sees him as just about becoming an international. The agent is pretty low key, his biggest named client is Sneijder, but other than that I only recognise Toby Alderwieild. So I think we now have a very good relationship with this agent due to Sneijder talks and Buttner so Fischer may be more achievable than first thought.

Sydney!

Shappy, move Blackett to LB and slot Ioannou in there.

Sydney!

The problem with your line up Shappy is that this site would be defunct, as we wouldn't need anymore transfers, haha.

Seriously though I think that is the way we are going, a couple more years of investment in 18-22 year olds and we will then be relying on youth forever more. Part of the Glazers strategy, bring them in young flog them at 28-30 for whatever their wages have cost for 8-10 years. Free football team. Pure profit.

It's how I do it on footy manager anyway.

Sween

Don't Forget Daehli in your formation. Our most promising player IMO. Would put him in instead of Lingard.

Dan