Manchester United Rumours Archive July 26 2011

26 Jul 2011 23:45:31
Does anyone know what our current debt is? I mean the actual figure? Daler-t

26 Jul 2011 22:43:32
after watching bastien schweinsteiger against AC MILAN in the audi cup tnyt i believe that he is the right man to fill the boots of paul scholes ...... HE'S WORLD CLASS

He for me is the best all round center mid player in the world, pls pls pls fergie spend whatever it takes to bring SCHWEINSTEIGER to united. class act

I completely agree that he is world class and would love if he joined us but like Neuer I just don't think that German players want to leave Germany

Schweinsteiger play a more defensive role, he's the type of player who breaks up play and recycles possession. He isn't a creative playmaker City wouldn't ask De Jong to play David Silva's role would they?

26 Jul 2011 21:53:04
" we have identified one position " ( david gill ). Everyone knows this is midfield ... SAF stated as much a couple of weeks back when he said we're overloaded upfront but not as much cover in midfield I think this rules out Vucinic .... just a thought could this be a smoke screen as if Roma's directors are seen in M/CR people will automatically think its Vucinic ........ but isn't there a certain midfielder who plays for the same club that we have been linked to???????

CRAIGY

But the odd part is Vucinic's agent actually stated he held talks, it's not just some generic Roma officials. To be honest I just think this is Vucinic's agenttrying to up the interest in his player to get a higher price.

So it is a smokescreen to some extent but with no actual links to Man Utd officials. In fact I imagine they are baffled at this link right now.

Vucinic & De Rossi have completely different agents, it was Mirko's agent that said United have met with him. You are miles off buddy.

There will be more than one more signing bud.

Sydney!

Neither of them players will be coming to united. I'd bet alot of money on it

I understand what you're saying but if the media or whoever did see roma's directors in manchester then surely they'd think it's someone we've previously been linked to aka de rossi. i think this is a load of pangs lodge, whateva that is

Fair point Sydney I wasn't aware of who de rossi's agent was it was just a thought putting 2+2 together coming up with 5 and hence " another smokescreen " in this transfer window Who would be your ideal signing this summer sydney ? Think mine would be Schweinsteiger

CRAIGY

26 Jul 2011 21:08:50
Extract from D Gill interview:
Did you always know this summer would be a busy one?
Yeah, we knew that. Edwin [van der Sar] made it known that last season would be his last so we had planned for a new goalkeeper well in advance. With the others [new arrivals Phil Jones and Ashley Young], the opportunities came along and we were comfortable with that. So we ve made three signings. We're looking at one more player to bring in. Nothing s happening nothing imminent on that at the moment, but we ll see what happens when we get home. There ll still be 31 days of the transfer window left to see if anything develops. But I m not working on anything at the moment, in that respect.

If you do end up signing somebody could it go right up to the deadline?
Possibly. We ve been looking at a particular position and two or three players in that position, but nothing s imminent at the moment. The important point to understand, and Sir Alex has made it clear, is that we need someone who s going to improve the quality of the squad. We ve got a great squad and to get into that squad you need to be a world-class player. There s no point, if you can t get the players you want, in buying someone for the sake of buying someone. But you never know there s often movement in August. I m not working on anything specific but that situation could change quickly when we get home.

26 Jul 2011 20:49:26
what about iniesta?
I know barca wouldn't wnat to sell him but we've still got quite a bit of money left?
he's still quite young, scores goals and does well under pressure.

They wouldn't sell him and he wouldn't want to come anyway.

Players with his level of technique are very rare and I can't see him swapping Barca for Manchester any time soon.

nice thought but there is really no chance.

Who the hell would want that dirty spanish cheating biaatch, he dives so well even the dolphins get jealous

26 Jul 2011 20:06:33
can anyone tell me if petrucci (spelling) has been playing pre season? read that saf rated him highly? thanks tom17

He played for the reserves recently , against fleetwood djl

Yes. He has been starting for the Reserves in the pre-season games.

26 Jul 2011 19:33:47
SAF says no more transfers.......My thoughts are , he is waiting until after the barcelona game , to see how the midfield combinations he has on offer stand up to barca (personaly i think it will be as bad as CL final , where we were totally outclassed in the middle) and fingers crossed he goes out and buys that star CM we need DJL

Well messi, dani alves, sanchez and mascherano will all miss the game because of the copa america (allowed to rest) so it's not really going to mean much

26 Jul 2011 19:01:43
look at the Scott Parker tackle video and you'll see he definitely has 1 aspect of scholes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_tdBdoCA5s

Listen mate..i would rather us get Parker from thunderbirds....

scott parker not class....

Are Scott Parker's agents on this site trying to help drum up a move for him FFS.
He signed a 5 year deal last year with West Ham, he would be mad to leave with that contract & his injury record.
He would require a transfer fee and would probably want a 3 year deal at least, no chairman in his right mind would do this.
The only board mad enough to sign him already have him.
Championship player.
ajk

26 Jul 2011 18:42:54
gill just said no signing imminent but definately not ruled out? sneijder will arrive im sure THE GUVNOR

26 Jul 2011 18:37:49
hey guys i understand the concerns of everyone following saf comments that no more players in.sneijder already 27 for 35mil.no resale value.
nasri groomed under wenger and after city money.hate that wenger so rule him out.
if we want another mid to replace scholesy who is young quick premier league experience already at the top compared to xavi n iniesta and has the joy of beating barca.hes even british if that helps
a name rings a bell
a certain mr.WISHERE
has all qualities we need.how about a 35mil check on wengers table for him.
does he fit the bill now ed?????
UNITEDABHISHEK {Ed007's Note - He fits the bill but I would be astounded if Arsenal would even consider selling him.}

He is arsenal through and through a bit like G Nevile was united.

I think wenger would rather stick pins in his eyes.
Remember when we tried to sign Viera, SAF even stated the player wanted the move but Arsenal dug in.
Selling to us confirms Wenger's lack of ambition and makes a statement Arsenal are nothing more than an grooming (pun intended) academy happy to qualify for champs league but they have to leave to achieve honors.
If players move to City or Chelsea they can accuse them of being greedy.
ajk

26 Jul 2011 18:16:07
douglas costa to replace paul schloes. he is going to become a world class midfielder and would last about 10 years, people call him the new ronaldinho , he'd only cost 20 million

20 million? A bargain considering we could have signed him for E6M last year...
T0MB0Z

Actually we couldn't have. We enquired and were told a price of around 15 million and upwards.

Shaktar enquired and got him for less than half that, simply because they are not a big european club.

rincewind

20 mil is not a bargain nor is it too pricey, he's very young and skilled but is unproven at a higher level so there is a slight risk.

IMO if we did sign him i would be very happy because i think he will be a huge talent IF he joined the right club, to learn from the best for example the red devils ;)

26 Jul 2011 17:44:34
Skysport 24 in Italy claim Mirko Vucinic's agent has held talks with man utd in the past couple of hours.

Isn't David Gill on tour tho ?

26 Jul 2011 17:18:46
With all this Glazer discussion, I would suggest reading Andersredblog. Interesting observations regarding the latest Fergie comments re: the 5 retired players allowing the financing of the new arrivals.

Why? He staked his reputation on the Glazers taking money out of the club to pay off the PIK loans, he assured everyone on redcafe it would happen, guaranteed. Guess what? It didn't. Why listen to anything he says now?

The Neviller

The Neviller

Very quick response to undermine a Glazer critical blogger. Interesting

I've seen him on redcafe, I've read his blog. He's a stereotypical MUST doom merchant. Everything they have stated as definitely going to happen has been shown to be nonsense. They tried to stoke up normal United fans into a revolt based on propaganda and lies. Why continue to buy into it? Indent want the Glazers involved in my club, but rather than scare people with lies why not just show the facts? There are many valid reasons as to why we as United fans would want the Glazers out, but rather than focus on them the MUST brigade and andersred placed all their eggs in one basket with tue PIK's, and it backfired. They've lost any credibility they had.

The Neviller

The Neviller

One key point unless I have missed it is that we do not know how the PIK's were re-paid, so in reality the £250M debt may still be there in the background. Yes it is not directly in United's name but if it is still a debt then utimately the owners will use United funds to repay it at some point which means they will want to maximise our value even more to cover it. At this point they havent taken dividends out but this doesnt mean they are not intending too.

You seem very keen to dispell the concerns over the Glazers. We have still to see the Glazers make a real statement of intent in the transfer market. It gives many great concern at the reason for not spending significant money so far on major signings. As I have said before I will judge on 1st September, however we should remember what the Glazers are trying to do. They wish to increase the asset value of the club, which can be enhanced by reducing the outstanding loans and at the same time increasing the value of the club. Spending large amounts on players who wont increase in value will not help them. We have seen their modus opperandi in their US football operation, therefore we should logically expect more hopeful Hernandez type buys than Sneijder ones. That makes the club more attractive with the "hidden" financial assets in the value of the players. It is their plan for the club but dont expect they will have any sentiment when it comes to the right offer at the right time for them. So at the moment spending large values on older players whose value will not increase doesnt help their overall plan for improving their own profit.
It is not "scare" tactics but cold hard truth about what they are doing, it is about time people like yourself realised that and dont see them as our rich benefactors. Please let me know exactly how much of their own money is risked in the club? Nothing , so they have everything to gain.
I want to be sure the decision who to buy is based on the right player for the club and not on whether it makes more money for the Glazers. That is still to be seen.

Red Man

When have I stated they are our rich benefactors? I am not a Glazer supporter, I do not wish the Glazers be involved at our club, but you know what? They are. They bought it on the open Market. They own it. They're here, and people like you better get used to that.

As far as the PIK's are concerned, they've been paid, that's a fact. They were not however paid with money from the club. Again, a fact. No, whether the Glazers plan to take that money out in the future to cover the previously paid PIK's, I do not know. And there is the crux of the matter, I don't know. But neither do you, or andersred, or anyone else for that matter. But rather than waiting to see what happens, and then reacting, people like andersred pre-empted this action by Glazer, and scare mongered on the back of it, showing guesswork and their idea of what might happen as a certainty, and fact. There is no other way to pay the PIK's thy said, other than money from the club. Simple fact is that did not know, and that is my stand point.

I do not know what they Glazers intend, I do not know what happens behind the scenes, so i will not react to something that hasn't happened yet, rather I will reserve judgement and watch would they actually do other than what they might do. I wish others would do the same, it's not exactly a novel approach. I hope you see where I'm coming from

The Neviller

The Neviller

I am used to the idea they own us but by no means does that mean I agree with their ownership.

Do you not think our lack of clear knowledge is concerning? Is that extremely poor communication from the Glazers or is it because they have set the situation up to put them in the position to be able to undertake what many suspect? Their only real response has been to base their finances in a US state which keeps total secrecy. We could surmise from that action that there is something to hide. Yes they may wish to keep their financing secret but why? What is there to hide? They could communicate better that is for sure. They add a clause to the bond which gives them a vessel to take an increased supply of money if they want, this is a fact not scaremongering. They take personal loans out of the club and we are not supposed to worry? We had a debt free club which now has significant debt(that did not benefit the club) but we are not supposed to worry? These issues are almost certain to bring fear yet they just look to find greater secrecy.

The evidence suggests the Glazers do not generally support spending on top level players either at Old Trafford or at their US team (particularly on wages). As each season passes there seems to be a reason why the best players dont come to us, that brings fear for our team and our future.

I repeat I am waiting for 1st September to assess the situation and I suggest we will have a better idea then. In the meantime the Glazers have a lot to prove, so in a way I agree with your "novel" approach but with a more finite timeline.

Red Man

26 Jul 2011 17:10:37
I still feel where 2 signings short 2 central midfielders Like my earlier post re, Joe Barton and Wesley/Nasri. However, Things seemed to have cooled on Ganso Trust me, he looked a quality player I feel Sir Alex will leave things till late, after the charity shield then execute two signings. 1 being Wesley and maybe even Costa or Rossi Well, all i know, we need 2 QUALITY mid players or FORGET about TRYING to catch Barca. With the signings we already have, i feel we'll just about scrape the prem title £60 mill for 2 World class central players and bring on Barca :-)

Early'b

26 Jul 2011 16:52:54
Thought it was interesting that Patrice Evra came out publicly and commented on how he had been trying to convince Samir Nasri to come to United. I mean, wouldn't you keep your mouth shut, rather than potentially telling the world you tried and failed to convince your international colleague to do the right thing, unless he knows something?

26 Jul 2011 16:49:06
Just watching Mirko Vucinic on You Tube... Ya''ll better have a look. He's a bad boy 2 footed strong attacking midfielder and knows where the goal is Could be a good buy

Early'b

Isn't he a striker? I've only seen him play a few times but I could have sworn he played right up top. More of an 'out and out'. This is right, right? I always thought he was a good player though, and perhaps more suited to the English league, more so than the italian, due to his ability to read the play quite well (have enough time to day dream in Italy and it not matter), and his physical nature. I think he probably is surplus to requirements though. On the opposing side of this I always thought Berba would be incredible in Italy, and that Serie A would be suited perfectly for him.

He is a striker , not an attacking midfielder now unless Berbatov is going this is a non starter.....

Ya better ave another look, he's a striker you fool

YouTube could make Clive mendonka look like messi {Ed007's Note - Look up Madin Mohammed on youtube, absolutely unbelievable!!!}

26 Jul 2011 15:59:20
United's U18's goalkeeper Sam Johnstone has joined Oldham Athletic on loan. Great experience for the 18 year old.

Sydney!

Only for 2 games as our other keepers are out injured and Dickov doesn't want Luke Simpson playing too much (he played for youth on saturday morning then first team in afternoon and will doing same next saturday)
Is this U18 keeper any good?

26 Jul 2011 14:20:15
im not sure about this interest in Mirko Vucinic....the last thing we need is a winger forward....so is it just that the papers need a united rumour in order to increase sales ? I wonder
DJ {Ed007's Note - It was an Italian press release that I saw it on DJ, I think it was early hours of Sunday (?) Whether there is any truth in it I don't know}

I cant see this happening as SAF has already stated we are a little over staffed up top. Expect a central mid or no one (IMO)

Why do we need a new striker as we have; rooney, owen, macheda, welbeck, hernandez and berbatov and they are all good players.

I am not in favour of it too
and ed 007 i was just saying that it din't make sense...i thought u would put it up on banter ;-)
DJ {Ed007's Note - Sorry, it was because you were commenting on a rumour I put it here.}

My view on Vucinic is it's probably someone (agent, club, whoever) using United's name to create interest. Harry Redknapp likes Vucinic, apparently...

DarkLard08

26 Jul 2011 13:22:09
Ed any more news on vucinic? Isnt his agent supposed to be in manchester today for talks? {Ed007's Note - It was reported today or tomorrow, whether it is true or not I don't know but that is what the Italians were reporting.}

26 Jul 2011 12:49:31
The player who can somewhat replace Paul Scholes is Bastian Schweinsteiger not Wesley Sneijder.

He did extended his contract at Bayer, but if United put £35M - £40M bid, ...
And hence, SAF said "The player we need is not available to us, we'll get on with what we have"...
It cannot be Sneijder, he is available. It cant be Nasri, he is available..
Who else could fill the legends boots other then Schweinsteiger.

MD_11

As much as Schweinsteiger is a great player. I don't think these comments were linked together.

Have always said De Rossi is the man for united.

RedAndy

I don't think Nasri can be considered available when AW has publicly commented several times saying he wants to keep him

Sneijder is the man not available... until Inter find a replacement.

You can say the same thing about Modric - Daniel Levy has come out numerous times saying he is'nt for sale.

RedAndy

I reckon the player in question alex is an about is lucas coz didnt his club slap a £80mil release fee on him? tho i recok miguel veloso or javi martenez would be ideal 2 replace scholes
THE HEMMINATOR

I dont understand why we didnt get Veloso when he moved from Sporting to Genoa. great utility player, Martinez would be class but cant see us gettin him

RedAndy

How about Xavi? Perfect replacement for Scholes with a good 4 years in him, and would be available once the Fabregas deal is done.. will also help develop the youngsters, help our style of play evolve etc etc.. and there was some talk of his reps meeting our reps last summer wasnt it?

TIPRA_RED_DEVIL

SCHWEINSTEIGER IS A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER, he isn't a creative player simple as that

26 Jul 2011 12:09:04
Douglas costa may be coming to utd

26 Jul 2011 11:28:16
I think. De rossi might. Be a better option than sneidjer, he would allow carrick/anderson/young to play more advanced and release their creativity ? Also he would be a hell of a lot cheaper Thoughts?
Mac

Sadly none of them will be wearing a united shirt

PB MUFC

Carrick has no creativity hes not the player from 07/08 and wont be again

I don't rate De Rossi. He's lacking genuine star quality and isn't better than what we already have.

PB MUFC - I strongly suspect you are wrong about at least one of them.

And whoever said Carrick has no creativity... whatever his faults last season, his ability to pick a pass out of thin air remains.

DarkLard08

Would people please stop saying that Carrick can pick out a pass Let's not get confused Xavi and Iniesta can pick out a pass. Michael Carrick is not a creative midfield player. Nor is he a defensive one either

Would no names please stop saying that carrick is no good, how many prem medals/fa cup medals/euro cup medals etc has he won??? he cant be that bad then can he.... HERBIE

26 Jul 2011 10:39:27
right ... theres loads of time in transfer window left and SAF continues to use one key word "imminent".
Stop panicking and just let him works his magic. He knows what he's doing and knows we need a new midfielder.

We also need another full back. 3 is not enough.

SAF is far better qualified than any of us I think to set the team up for the season.

The task of acquiring a top player in midfield is very difficult.

The sad thing is that this generation of home based talent does not seem up to the standards of the 1993 era

I agree with the first comment the 3 FB we have are good but a 4th and possibly 5th is needed as back up or a challenge to the people in the 1st 11

We have 4 centre backs and last season you may remember jonny evans playing stints at left back where i thought he played better than he has done at centre back

26 Jul 2011 09:54:42
Ed002 - Do you still believe Nani will be sold this summer? Have you heard anything regarding Nani?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I have heard nothing new Syd. With the window less than half way through I still think there is every chance he will move on.}

Has Ferguson not recently stated he is happy with Nani? You like producing your quotes Sydney, so isn tthat enough for you?

Invisible STuey

'IS'

I don't believe everything that comes out of SAF's mouth. He said Gibson was one for the future then a week later he accepted a £5m bid from Sunderland for the player.

So no, a quote from SAF is not good enough. Just like I don't believe his latest quotes. I take everything SAF says with a pinch of salt during the transfer window.

Sydney!

26 Jul 2011 08:45:45
Well well well, what a surprise. Sudenly we are not going to be buying anyone else. Sounds very familiar doesn't it. Every single one of you reading this knew at the start of the window what we needed and we are crying out for. Remember we had all that Ronaldo money and the promised £25 mil every window. But did we go out and make that Stella signing? NO Has the first 11 improved from last year NO we have added to our squad but we have not addressed the problem of a dominant midfielder. I did as Sydney asked and kept quiet during the season and didn't mention the money grabbing leaches from across the pond. But here we are once again in a transfer window. The biggest club in the world making Millions and millions of pounds (as Sydney will tell you). Are we as the supporters seeing the benefit by the addition of World class footballers? Once again No The money is all going in one direction. I am sure that Sydeny and his new little pet Nevillesomething will come on and try and convince you that this has nothing to do with the Glazers and it's just Fergie making the choices. Be realisitic you all know the truth and know what we needed. I have no doubt that Fergie will work wonders with the squad he has and he will make us challenge in all competitions but is there anyone amongst you more confident than you were last season. Please give your reasons I will be facinated. RAINFISHTROMBONE {Ed002's Note - I see that he caveated his statement with the phrase "at the moment".}

What you on about Sydney's pet? Away and catch yourself on son, I'm no one's pet. You seem to act the big man on here but your tactics won't wash with me, so do one. All i've said on here so far is that United haven't sold to buy as some suggested. The facts prove that. For what it's worth, I'm no Glazerite, I've never wanted them near this club, was a share holder before they forced me to give up my shares, and I'll be as happy as anyone when they finally leave. If Fergie is being handcuffed by the Glazers then it's a disgrace, but is spending £50 million on 3 young players a club working on a shoestring? Im not so sure it is. The signing of De Gea is as sure a sign as any for me, a club on a budget doesn't spend £18 million on a 20 year old keeper when the could have picked Brad Friedel up on a free for example. Maybe i'll be proved wrong but if Fergie says the money is there I'll believe him. And if he gives the youth a chance I'll watch them develop with excitement. I think you should take a break from football for a while rustytrombone because it's pretty clear you've lost your love for it. Sad really

Ps, get to know who tour target is before you have a go. And stop acting like a spoilt child

The Neviller

Precisely, using the term "at the moment" leaves him to change his mind whenever he feels, it's nothing more than clever wording. RFT, I have no doubt in my mind that we will buy at least two more players this summer, perhaps when the season is underway. If I am wrong then I will look like a right tool, but I won't be wrong. I have never been more confident that we will sign a central midfielder. Nice to know SAF can still twist you and others around his little finger with his words RFT. The man has still got it.

Sydney!

Great post rainfish this has been coming for a few weeks now, no doubt syd etc will hit back with "we have a great team we won the league last year" but even fergy has identified we need to improve the middle, the fact we have'nt tell's you exactly what going on at the club.
Fergy done a great job last last year and god help us when his gone.
jred

RFT

You maybe right that we won't buy a top player in the midfield, but I think we should reserve judgement until the end of the transfer window. Fergie's statement sounded like posturing to me. Perhaps sending out a message that United won't be held to ransom, maybe to the player he's targeting or his club. We really won't know until the end of the window. Honestly wait mate, and if a class act CM isn't forthcoming you will be able to join the rant queue then.

'jred'

You have just described the exact reason why we WILL be buying a central midfielder this summer. Because SAF himself said we need to improve the middle. If we had a set budget don't you think we would have sidestepped Jones for £16.5m and kept faith in Lindegaard as our number one and kept Kuszczak as our number two instead of spending £18m on a 20 year old? Don't you think he would have used that £34.5m to buy a central midfielder? Don't you think he would have given Hargreaves a pay as you play deal and not tried to sell Gibson? If you cannot see there is room being made for a central midfielder then you are blind.

Sydney!

For the record RUSTYTROMBONE, what would make you happier in this transfer, United making a blockbuster signing and you being wrong, or them signing no one and you being able to say " I told you so"? As I United fan I like to see things happen that are the best for my club, be it a new signing who improves our team, one of our current players developing and filling a bigger role in the team, or a young player coming through and making their mark. I'm not sure the same can be said for you in fairness. Maybe I've misjudged you but from what I've read you appear to only have an anti-glazer agenda, and it seems to cloud the reason why all of us are here, a love for Manchester United. My apologies if I've misunderstood you

The Neviller

Syd i c/p agree all common sense would say we will buy , but the more i look at it the less likely it seems, i really thought we would off bought someone last year and was amazed when we never, I hope your right and we do but if we dont some serious questions need to asked about where the club is going.
but this is maybe a conversation we should be having next month
jred

Rainfish....as much as i hate to admit that for once i actually agree with every word you have just said lol.......

i was starting to 'believe' just like so many of our fellow fans kept saying at the end of their hopeful messages.....but alas i am completely starting to unbelieve from here on in.....

fair enough there may still be 5 weeks roughly left in the window which is loads of time to make a big signing....however enough of this no value in the market BS fergie....end of the day we need TWO midfielders brought in FACT....defensive midfielder that is ready to step up to the challenge NOW....and an attacking midfielder such as sneijder or pastore etc

we lost the BEST player in the world ffs and what have we got in return........

i have always been positive and optimistic during the past few transfer windows 'believing' that we as fans are rewarded with a marquee signing that we deserve but yet no....still waiting, still clutching straws......main signings have come from blackburn, aston villa and a goalkeeper that has only had 1 years first team experience in the primera...all great prospects yes i know, but thats not what we need NOW

jesus we have lost 5 players and with that the experience that came with them on the pitch and in the dressing room

I am starting to fear that we may end up going down the 'Arsenal' Road unless that marquee signing we need is fulfilled...

I will try to stay as hopeful as I can, and hope, just hope that I am proved wrong by fergie and hope that it is all mind games in the end.........

Robbo

I am sad to say I agree with RFT. I don't see any improvement on last season and clearly the likes of ##ity and Chelski will spend big and close the gap. De Gea is an excellent signing but does he improve on VDS, no Is Ashley Young better than Nani or Velncia, no Will Jones be a first teamer when Sir Alex put's out his first choice 11, no I think I speak for most United fans when I say I was desperate for a big exciting signing....Sneijder, Pastore, Modric, Sanchez, Aguero and I could go on. I know full well the wealth of talent in the youth teams but hey are not ready to play week in week out yet. So in conclusion, please Sir Alex prove me wrong and bring in that superstar to raise the excitement at Old Trafford

'jred'

If come September 1st we haven't brought in a central midfielder, I will be the first one to say that we deserve better, but I think a central midfielder is inevitable. Whether it's a box2box, defensive or attacking midfielder I really don't know, but I am sure someone will come in. There are good midfielders out there, don't necessarily need to be Nasri, Sneijder or Modric, but as long as it's a player that makes our first XI better than last season's first XI.

At worst our team will look like this next season:

__________De Gea

Twin____Ferd____Vida____Evra

_Fletch/Carrick___Giggs/Ando

Tony.V______Rooney______Young

__________Hernandez


Sydney!

From my point of view a cm signing would be great, but I'd rather wait until we can find a player with ability and a reasonable price rather than sign a name on a shirt for stupid money as a hush up to so called fans. The last thing I want is for our club to become C*ty, and buy our way up the table.

As far as this season goes, I see Giggs playing most of his game time in the centre of Midfield, players like Anderson and Cleverly can develop around him, given time they may reach their potential. If it doesnt work out, there's January, a great team isn't built in a day.

M

Well, let's wait till September 1st. There are definitely things (and big things) happening in the background - I'll expect all the negative posters to come and admit they were wrong when the window closes if something happens (as I will if nothing happens).

As for City and Chelsea improving - well, I would say Clichy for Kolarov and Aguero for Tevez means that, at best, City are treading expensive water so far. If they get Nasri, that will force Yaya Toure deeper which will also weaken them. Chelsea need to bring in quality to keep on an even keel as Lampard, Drogba, Anelka and Terry fade. For me, Arsenal are likely to be the big winners this transfer window, contrary to popular belief, if Arsene can get a couple of quality defenders in.

DarkLard08

I don't understand this sense of entitlement that some fans have when it comes to United and in particular to new signings. I always see It being said how we deserve a big signing, or how the club owes us a big name player. It always sounds like appeasement, as in buy us a big name player or we won't love the club anymore. It's like we revert to being children come the transfer window " buy us a shiny new toy or I'll sulk" We're like the rich kid at Christmas, who has everything but can't be pleased with anything, because nothing is good enough or shiny enough any more.

Can we not just be happy with our lot, happy that we have players at our club with a wealth of experience of winning major honours. Happy that we are currently experiencing the most successful era our great football club has ever seen. And happy that we have the greatest manager in the world at the helm steering us, I'm sure, to even more success? I dunno, maybe im just too easily pleased, but I genuinely don't care whether our cheque book gets opened again this transfer window, I have faith in Sir Alex and the squad he has to challenge for the major honours again.

The Neviller

Personally, I said a good two month ago that I did not believe United would sign any of the major midfielders being mentioned. I got slated for it at the time, but still believe it to be true.
Frankly, I believe there are United fans nowadays who would find fault if we wont the lot. Last year we won the league and got to the final of the CL. We lost, but we lost to one of the greatest teams of all time, no shame in that.
This team does not need overhauling, it is in fine condition to do just as well next season, with or without a major midfielder.

MDJ

This "no value in the market" stuff should not apply to man utd if we have to spend 30/40/50 mil to land the player(s) we need to progress and ensure future success and with that big paycheques for the club then do it its just buisness...all markets change....city and chelsea and all the top clubs in europe will allways improve at the min we honestly are "just about" the best team in england but if we start to fall behind now and they keep splashing out we could end up like arsenal...i mean yeah there still a top side but they dont win anything and if utd didnt win anything for 6 yrs it could be very bad for our financial situation..right? ......however i think(hope) we will sign the player(s) we need and have full faith (as allways) in SAF and whatever utd decide to do :)....come on united SALFORD RED

I'm still hopeful that a big name midfielder (at least one) will be brought in. It's common knowledge that Utd has the least amount of truly class players in the center of the park. We are desperate for someone creative, whether that be Sneijder or someone else. I'm sick of being linked to a world class player every window only for Fergie to pour cold water over it and us to miss out - Ozil, Silva, Torres to name a few. I'm extremely happy with the window so far but if we don't sign at least one quality centre mid then i'll view it as a disappointment

A little quote i think alot of you may of missed

"At this moment, I can't see another addition. The type of player we might have been looking for is not available.

just becuase we need a player to fill a position doesnt mean its always possible to get them

also i think the squad we have now is more than capable of challenging on all fronts

Chris

The fact of the matter is, as Fergie says, the right player he's identified isn't available at the moment. As some have added above, this can change at any minute.

Some person out there think you can just throw millions of pounds around because they have good rating in fooball manager and they will fit perfectly in the side/system and tactics he want to play.

Im afriad it doesn't work like that. If we need or are lacking a player, Fergie will get one. In no way will he enter a season as manger of Manchester United without a side that can compete. If you disbelive that then your a fool.

I'll take the Premiership and Champions League Final/Semi Final again this year without a doubt. Just becuase you want us to sign a 30 million plus player doesnt mean we'll be as good as Barcelona. Barcelona are team built over years of the core playing together. Not achieved in one stone throw.

As for the Glaziers, there are far worse owners out there.

The redest devil

Oh so boring. Will you be the first back here to admit you were wrong if a big money signing is made? We have still outspent our rivals and there is plenty of time to go. Dont think signings will arrive while we are in the USA but I do expect additions.

If Fergie sticks with what we have then fair enough, he believes thats good enough so thats good enough for me BUT with Fletcher still struggling with this virus it is leaving us short in the middle.... What if Anderson/Carrick or any other CM players gets injured for the season.... It puts us in a position we don't want to be in, Fergie would of already thought about senario's and i don't think he wants to be put in one so lets have faith in him, whatever he chooses to do.... HERBIE

Neviller. It's not that we feel entitled, we're just worried for the team when we have seen that gaping hole in midfield for so long now. It's more of a concern that we will succumb to Barca in the same way again having not improved our first 11 to this point. I will be happy what ever SAF does and willalways support the team.

26 Jul 2011 05:13:52
Reading rumours about Vucinic's peeps talking to Man Utd peeps, also reading De Rossi won't sign a new deal, also Reading Roma intrested in Berbatov but am i reading to much into all this.... Would love a deal to be done, say Berbatov and 20 to 25 million for Vucinic and De Rossi .... HERBIE

You are overpricing them mate, De Rossi would fetch a maximum of £15m and Vucinic would cost around £10m. Age isn't on either of their sides and De Rossi has one year left on his contract.

I wouldn't want either player, but SAF is the boss, not me.

Sydney!

I know De Rossi (28) is in the final year of his contract and in todays money £15 million sounds about right, Vucinic (27 I believe) i think your maybe undervalueing by £5+ million.... I would take De Rossi he kinda reminds me of Roy Keane and If I'm honest i would'nt want Vucinic BUT if there was a swap deal involving the ageing Berbatov then i would consider it.... £20 million + Berbatov i think is about right.... HERBIE