Manchester United Rumours Archive November 26 2010

 

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26 Nov 2010 23:45:48
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~Ed i have done some digging and i have found out that Epson and United have agreed a three year deal worth? All i know is it is a seven figure number, so it could be £1,000,000 up to £9, 999, 999.

So its highly unlikely these guys funded the PIKs or lent us the money!

Do you have any further info on this Ed? {ed's note - I don't mate, all I have ever known about this is that it is a sponsorship deal, sorry.}

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26 Nov 2010 22:33:59
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ED I told you about the epsom story, its on our website that they are now our providers of printers and copiers is that where they got the 220 mill from I think so. they are good at commercial work if so just bad at pr. . thanks


Epson just pay the Glazers £220m , not to the club? Cant see it

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26 Nov 2010 20:42:24
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ED I told you about the epsom story, its on our website that they are now our providers of printers and copiers is that where they got the 220 mill from I think so. they are good at commercial work if so just bad at pr. . thanks

treble1999

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26 Nov 2010 19:15:14
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"""''we are trying for a player near the end of his contract, maybe a year to go?''

please if you don't want to say the name, please say at least position and league where he plays. Thank you"""
dear unnamed sir,
ngiak apologises but that's what he has heard. as for the position, the intelligent guess would be in central midfield where there will be the greatest losses soon. he apparently is happy with his striking and defensive departments. .
as of who and where he is from, you will have to consult with the the big 4 in the club, cos no one else knows. very vague, yes, but there is officially no other official bid for anyone at the moment.

ITS KAKUKA, I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW.

26 Nov 2010 19:12:42
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Reply to Ngiak;

"ahhh so ngiak gathers that if there is no bid or the club did not confirm it at all, means they are interested. good logic."

So by your logic, because United have not confirmed interest in anyone other than Lindegaard, then United are not interested in anyone other than Lindegaard? So all of United's scouts are not currently scouting anyone?

"as for chile, just a thought, a notion. maybe, just maybe, sir alex went there to sign a sponsorship ONLY and since he was there, to pay tribute to the miners?"

The Chilean president came to England and the ticket offers to the miners were made to them while they were still in the ground. I got it wrong, Fergie did not actually meet the miners but he has invited them to Manchester free of cost through the Chilean president, he also sent them a signed shirt each. Fergie met the president in October and the Chilean sponsorship deal was signed two weeks ago. The meeting of the Chilean president and the sponsorship deal are nothing to do with each other.

"maybe just maybe if sanchez WANTED to come, sir alex and man united do not have to make this extraodinarily expensive SPECIAL effort for him, as you have suggested?"

I think you have got the wrong end of the stick, signing a new sponsorship deal with a Chilean wine company and meeting the Chilean president is not to convince Sanchez to sign, United are putting their name around Chile through TV adverts (wine adverts), newspapers etc and making good friends (the president for example). Its a way of getting the attention of the Chileans so if United did buy Sanchez or another Chilean player, we could sell more merchandise.

"in which fable did you read that mr steele and sir alex specifically mentioned watching de gea? maybe, they went for the game and yes they do watch many others so which player are they actually looking at, sir alex told you? in the first place, do you actually know where exactly sir alex was that night? ngiak thought sir alex was ill."

First of all Fergie confirmed he was in Spain watching the Valencia game, it was no secret. He does not often do this, in fact its the first time he has ever missed a United game whilst going on a scouting mission, i actually have a photo of him at the game in Valencia and i posted it on the 'Player sightings' take a look. Of course they never said exactly who they were watching but he did take a goalkeeping coach with him (a possible clue) and De Gea said himself that he was there to watch him. Maybe he spoke to the player at full-time? Its never stopped him before.

Sydney!

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26 Nov 2010 18:23:29
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"""''we are trying for a player near the end of his contract, maybe a year to go?''

please if you don't want to say the name, please say at least position and league where he plays. Thank you"""
dear unnamed sir,
ngiak apologises but that's what he has heard. as for the position, the intelligent guess would be in central midfield where there will be the greatest losses soon. he apparently is happy with his striking and defensive departments. .
as of who and where he is from, you will have to consult with the the big 4 in the club, cos no one else knows. very vague, yes, but there is officially no other official bid for anyone at the moment.

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26 Nov 2010 18:18:23
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"""@I am afraid you are wrong ngiak, United are very much interested in both De Gea & Sanchez, just because the club have not confirmed it or even made a bid does not mean we are not interested in these players.

Ferguson & Eric Steele (GK coach) both missed the Sc* thorpe match just to watch David De Gea, Eric Steele has been to watch De Gea on several occasions on his own. Ferguson revealed a few weeks ago that he has made personal checks on Sanchez's. He also said when asked about the player said he could be the next CR7. Sanchez's agent has also confirmed that Manchester United have made contact with him but that is as far as it has got.

Ferguson has also made a massive effort in meeting with the Chilean miners and the Chilean first lady, he offered the miners luxury tickets, accommodation & travel paid to watch a top United game. United have also just signed a new sponsorship deal with Chile's top wine producer, a little sponsorship for little money. There must be more sinister reasons behind these adventures. Perhaps he is laying foundations for Chile to be marketed just like we are currently doing in Mexico.

United may not sign Sanchez or De Gea but to say they are not interested is just incorrect and pretty foolish.

Sydney!"""
dear mr sydney! sir,
ahhh so ngiak gathers that if there is no bid or the club did not confirm it at all, means they are interested. good logic. in a rumour forum, maybe yes, but ngiak was talking as of today, in the REAL world, as an OFFICIAL bid, dear sir.
as for chile, just a thought, a notion. maybe, just maybe, sir alex went there to sign a sponsorship ONLY and since he was there, to pay tribute to the miners? just a thought. again, maybe just maybe if sanchez WANTED to come, sir alex and man united do not have to make this extraodinarily expensive SPECIAL effort for him, as you have suggested?
and in which fable did you read that mr steele and sir alex specifically mentioned watching de gea? maybe, they went for the game and yes they do watch many others so which player are they actually looking at, sir alex told you? in the first place, do you actually know where exactly sir alex was that night? ngiak thought sir alex was ill. .
dear sir, with your unfounded hypothesis and strange extrapolated deductions, its surprising you actually have the presence of mind to call others foolish and incorrect. ie if we don't agree with you the rest of us are of a much lower intellect.
well, ngiak never pretended to be a smart guy and never had measured his limited IQ but he just voiced what he heard/ knew.
he sincerely apologises for intruding into your domain.
gan

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26 Nov 2010 17:21:06
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""{Editor's Note: There is certainly still interest in the player.}"""

""dear editor sir,
ngiak would have to disagree with you unfortunately. there is currently NO interest in sanchez or de gea""

@I am afraid you are wrong ngiak, United are very much interested in both De Gea & Sanchez, just because the club have not confirmed it or even made a bid does not mean we are not interested in these players.

Ferguson & Eric Steele (GK coach) both missed the Sc* thorpe match just to watch David De Gea, Eric Steele has been to watch De Gea on several occasions on his own. Ferguson revealed a few weeks ago that he has made personal checks on Sanchez's. He also said when asked about the player said he could be the next CR7. Sanchez's agent has also confirmed that Manchester United have made contact with him but that is as far as it has got.

Ferguson has also made a massive effort in meeting with the Chilean miners and the Chilean first lady, he offered the miners luxury tickets, accommodation & travel paid to watch a top United game. United have also just signed a new sponsorship deal with Chile's top wine producer, a little sponsorship for little money. There must be more sinister reasons behind these adventures. Perhaps he is laying foundations for Chile to be marketed just like we are currently doing in Mexico.

United may not sign Sanchez or De Gea but to say they are not interested is just incorrect and pretty foolish.

Sydney!

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26 Nov 2010 15:54:52
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''we are trying for a player near the end of his contract, maybe a year to go?''

please if you don't want to say the name, please say at least position and league where he plays. Thank you

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26 Nov 2010 15:12:50
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It seems like our worries about Ravel Morrison are coming to fruition and he is in big trouble again to the point that, word is at Carrington he could be out of the door. It will be a terrible waste of a genuine class talent but a bad bad attitude that United can't be seen to condone. It might work for him if he moved away and I know that Arsenal are big admirers. It will be criminal if those around him drag him down and prevent what should have been a great career. RAINFISHTROMBONE

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26 Nov 2010 14:22:54
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"WF Red Devil"

@Ferguson has never confirmed an interest in VDV, newspapers speculated on it, that is all. As for saying Spurs would sell him for 11m, are you mental? He has four years on his Spurs contract and we are buying him from a rival top four team, this guy will cost close to 20m, that is certainly the minimum Spurs would accept put it that way.

He is also no use to us for just 70 minutes of each game is he? That is if he is fit to play at all.

Editor, how much would VDV cost United if we tried to sign him in the summer, are we talking 11m or closer to 20m?

Sydney! {ed's note - Spurs don't need or want to sell, it would have to be enough money to force them to sell. No way it would be as little as 11m, probably talking closer to 30m than 20m I think.}

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26 Nov 2010 13:47:31
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@Come on mate, for a start Neville, Hargreaves & Kuszczak are out the door by this summer.

Yes Lindegaard is coming in, we all know that. As for your tip, how can you be so clueless? I agree that not much will happen in the way of transfers but Van Der Vaart will never be a United player, we never wanted him when he was leaving Madrid so why would we want him now? He will be 28, he is injury prone and cannot play a full 90 mins, He would also cost us at least 20m from Spurs.

That is never going to happen mate, you probably should have kept that tip to yourself, either Defour or Henderson will be brought in, especially if Hargreaves is released and i think he will be. As for our attacking midfielder, he will be young, certainly under 23.

Agree with your keeper theory, your defensive theory and your strikers theory although you missed out Welbeck. United will certainly go for two midfielders.

What do you think Ed?

Sydney!

{Editor's Note: I expect Defour to join.}


* Hi Sydney - I completely take your points on board, however I just cannot see SAF purchasing an CAM at a young age with the hope of 'moulding' him into the new Paul Scholes. . Look at Anderson!?

I really think that Paul Scholes' replacement, will be someone who is already established - hence why I went for the Van Der Vaart punt. My thinking was that we need an established CAM who represents good value in the current market, and there aren't very many unfortunately at the moment. Added to the fact that there is great hope that Petrucci will 'make the grade' in 2 years and he's the closest thing we have at the moment to a replacement. Henderson or Defour as a direct replacement for Scholes makes no sense as they're completely different players (box-to-box rather than pure creativity), and it would hamper Petrucci's development plans. Therefore I've punted on someone who's a direct instant replacement, 2-3 years of service until Petrucci comes through to try and prove himself, and someone who I believe could be obtainable at a fair price. £20m is extremely inflated, and I personally could imagine:

1. SAF declares an interest in Van Der Vaart in March/April 2011.
2. In June 2011 VDV declared he would be interested in the move to Old Trafford.
3. Unfortunately Spurs have a player who wants to leave and move on to a bigger club, and at 28 years of age, know they're not going to fetch £20m.
4. A deal is agreed for £11m and VDV heads to old Trafford on a 3 yr deal.

Personally, I could see this happening. Yes, VDV has had some injury problems, however if he remains fairly fit throughout the season, who knows what will happen?

As for not purchasing him when he was available from Real Madrid? It isn't the first time we've let a player go to another Premier League club to watch how they progress, with the intention of possibly purchasing for a bigger fee if they are successful in terms of coping with the Premier League:

1. Berbatov (Was a target at Bayer)
2. Ferdinand (Was a target at Leeds)
3. Carrick (Was a target at West Ham)
etc, etc.

WF Red Devil

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26 Nov 2010 12:43:43
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26 Nov 2010 11:12:48
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"well lets be honest no one knows a. if valencia will ever be back and b.if obertan or bebe will make it. . we all know park isn't a left winger he just does a job. Young actually plays left wing and has 2 good feet, alot of assists, we need a good free kick taker and since we definetly won't get bale anytime soon i think hes a good option. even the editor agrees.{ed's note - depends on which editor you mean. Personally I think Young is coward of a player, he always goes missing if he gets a bit of rough treatment. If it wasn't that he is such an average player, teams would be targeting him for rough treatment to put him out of the game. As it is no one bothers because he is not that much of a threat, which he is capable of excellent crosses he never seems to deliver them.}"

@Obertan & Bebe will both be far better players than Young, Young is erratic, he fluffs most shots & every free-kick he takes, he always goes missing in all of the big games, his only plus is he is fast.

Young will not end up at United simply because he is not good enough, he cannot be trained either as he is pushing 26.

Sydney!

I agree I think it is more likely Young would end up somewhere like Man City perhaps that's where this story is really coming from, like most of the players they have signed recently they oddly are linked to Utd for a while first then they sign for City.

So maybe City have agreed a deal for him and are trying to make it look like they have got a player before Utd.

26 Nov 2010 12:34:41
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Conclusion:

IN:
Lindegaard
CAM (my tip! - Rafael Van Der Vaart)

OUT:
Owen
Plus others youth players back out on loan to various clubs

WF Red Devil

{Editor's Note: I think there may well be a continuing interest in Steven Defour for the CM role.}

* Hi Ed - I think the interest in Defour is/was genuine, however I believe that Defour is a different type of CM against what SAF has identified as top priority. I agreed, there is certainly a real possiblity of Defour joining especially when taking into consideration Owen Hargreaves' current situation, but in terms of creativity, I believe Defour is not the answer - Yes a wonderful box-to-box midfielder, but having the ability to slice open a oppositions defence with one magical pass?. I've seen little evidence to support that.

It's not beyond belief to consider Defour and another being brought in during the Summer. However I can't help thinking that our initial interest in Defour was when Darren Fletcher wasn't really 'hitting it off' for the 1st team and his inconsistancy was getting frustratind. Now Darren Fletcher is one of the 1st names on the team sheet, and a partnership of Defour and Fletcher still lacks geniune creativity in my mind.

The reason I tipped Van Der Vaart is because:

1. Unlikely Spurs will reach the CL next season.
2. I think United could get him for what's considered a reasonable price.
3. Luka Modric is still the Spurs golden boy, and if it mean't VDV leaving, but Modric staying, I think Spurs would take that as would the fans.
4. I personally think VDV would be interested in joining United, and has used Spurs as a stepping stone (with due respect to Spurs).

26 Nov 2010 12:32:00
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IN:
Lindegaard
CAM (my tip! - Rafael Van Der Vaart)

OUT:
Owen
Plus others youth players back out on loan to various clubs

WF Red Devil

{Editor's Note: I think there may well be a continuing interest in Steven Defour for the CM role.}

@Come on mate, for a start Neville, Hargreaves & Kuszczak are out the door by this summer.

Yes Lindegaard is coming in, we all know that. As for your tip, how can you be so clueless? I agree that not much will happen in the way of transfers but Van Der Vaart will never be a United player, we never wanted him when he was leaving Madrid so why would we want him now? He will be 28, he is injury prone and cannot play a full 90 mins, He would also cost us at least 20m from Spurs.

That is never going to happen mate, you probably should have kept that tip to yourself, either Defour or Henderson will be brought in, especially if Hargreaves is released and i think he will be. As for our attacking midfielder, he will be young, certainly under 23.

Agree with your keeper theory, your defensive theory and your strikers theory although you missed out Welbeck. United will certainly go for two midfielders.

What do you think Ed?

Sydney!

{Editor's Note: I expect Defour to join.}

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26 Nov 2010 11:39:11
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It is my understanding that Manchester United will not 'Revamp' the entire squad, as suggested by many on this website and throughout the media in general. This is my understanding of the 'plan':

1. Goalkeeper - It's well documented that Lindegaard will be joining us. He IS being brought in as a natural successor to Edwin, and will be given games during the season to 'feel' his way into the team. Next year Lindegaard will be our No.1 and hopefully he rises to the challenge. Should he not, then I expect De Gea and Atletico's resolve will be tested by United making a formal bid - but only if Lindegaard fails to make the grade.

2. Defence - No changes unless Evra or Vidic declare a solid intention to leave the club. Strength and depth is good with Smalling and Rafael in particular surpassing the expectations of the coaching team so quickly with their consistancy.

3. Midfield - In terms of wingers we're absolutely fine with Nani, Park, Valencia and Obertan. Competition is excellent and it's a healthy fight for the 1st places. Central Midfield is the key! This is where our big name Summer signing will be. SAF have recognised the need for a creative midfielder and has earmarked this as No. 1 priority.

4. Attack - Unfortunately (in my opinion), very little change will happen. The coaching staff and SAF are extremely keen to develop a partnership with Rooney and Hernandez. Berbatov will not leave and neither will Macheda. The only striker leaving will be Owen. Diouf will be brought back into the squad to fight for a place as SAF really does like this lad and has faith in his ability. It will be Macheda's turn next year to go on loan, and Diouf's turn to have a season of fighting for a 1st team place.

Conclusion:

IN:
Lindegaard
CAM (my tip! - Rafael Van Der Vaart)

OUT:
Owen
Plus others youth players back out on loan to various clubs

WF Red Devil

{Editor's Note: I think there may well be a continuing interest in Steven Defour for the CM role.}

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26 Nov 2010 11:37:10
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"1. We know Antonio Valencia will return. Don't be a pessimist to that extent. He has suffered a muscle injury which keeps recurring. He will definitely be back."

* i meant "hasn't", before starts ridiculing me.

@We know what you meant mate and you are absolutely right, Valencia will be playing again by March 1st, five months out for a 25 year old is not a big deal, he will be back to his best by the beginning of May and hopefully we will have a FA cup final & CL final to play in that time.

Sydney!

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26 Nov 2010 11:17:34
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"1. We know Antonio Valencia will return. Don't be a pessimist to that extent. He has suffered a muscle injury which keeps recurring. He will definitely be back."

* i meant "hasn't", before starts ridiculing me.

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26 Nov 2010 11:12:48
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"well lets be honest no one knows a. if valencia will ever be back and b.if obertan or bebe will make it. . we all know park isn't a left winger he just does a job. Young actually plays left wing and has 2 good feet, alot of assists, we need a good free kick taker and since we definetly won't get bale anytime soon i think hes a good option. even the editor agrees.{ed's note - depends on which editor you mean. Personally I think Young is coward of a player, he always goes missing if he gets a bit of rough treatment. If it wasn't that he is such an average player, teams would be targeting him for rough treatment to put him out of the game. As it is no one bothers because he is not that much of a threat, which he is capable of excellent crosses he never seems to deliver them.}"

@Obertan & Bebe will both be far better players than Young, Young is erratic, he fluffs most shots & every free-kick he takes, he always goes missing in all of the big games, his only plus is he is fast.

Young will not end up at United simply because he is not good enough, he cannot be trained either as he is pushing 26.

Sydney!

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26 Nov 2010 10:43:36
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Saf will compleatley revamp his sqaud with alot more english exsperiance
outs
evra 26 million - r.madrid
valencia 20 million - inter
berbatov 17.5 million -sevilla
anderson 9million - benfica
carrick 8 million - everton
total-74 million
ins
baines -11 million
lennon -13 million
carroll-15 million
huddlestone-15 million
total-54 million

the rest going towards debts
also nexts season we get a new sponsor from an asian firm wich is beleived to be worthin an access
of 275 million over 6 years

MATE STOP TALKING JUNK, WHY WOULD UNITED SWAP WORLD CLASS PLAYERS OR POTENTIAL WORLD CLASS PLAYERS FOR A BUNCH OF TOTTENHAM REJECTS AND A VERY AVERAGE BAINES?

AS FOR US GETTING 26M FOR EVRA? DREAM ON PAL, HES 30 FOR CHRIST SAKES, WE WILL GET 16-17M TOPS. ALTHOUGH I THINK HE WILL END UP STAYING PUT. WHO IS THIS SPONSOR YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? GOING BY THE REST OF YOUR RUMOURS THIS IS PROBABLY A RUMOUR/LIE AS WELL.

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26 Nov 2010 10:23:26
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The left wing void? So i think the mail is suggesting we add another right footed player on the wings, with already having nani, obertan and park. And is the mail suggesting nani(who is better than young on the left) will be playing on the right and young on the left and valencia who is streets and miles ahead of young in terms of consistency, power, defensive discipline and pin point crosses would be sitting on the bench then?


well lets be honest no one knows a. if valencia will ever be back and b.if obertan or bebe will make it. . we all know park isn't a left winger he just does a job. Young actually players left wing and has 2 good feet, alot of assists, we need a good free kick taker and since we definetly won't get bale anytime soon i think hes a good option. even the editor agrees. {ed's note - depends on which editor you mean. Personally I think Young is coward of a player, he always goes missing if he gets a bit of rough treatment. If it wasn't that he is such an average player, teams would be targeting him for rough treatment to put him out of the game. As it is no one bothers because he is not that much of a threat, which he is capable of excellent crosses he never seems to deliver them.}

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26 Nov 2010 09:26:34
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Ashley young to fill our left wing void. . . what do you think ed? hes a good player and id love to have him! cost wud be an issue. . .(the mail)

{Editor's Note: Possible more than likely I would say.}"

The left wing void? So i think the mail is suggesting we add another right footed player on the wings, with already having nani, obertan and park. And is the mail suggesting nani(who is better than young on the left) will be playing on the right and young on the left and valencia who is streets and miles ahead of young in terms of consistency, power, defensive discipline and pin point crosses would be sitting on the bench then?

I would rather love to see the name of the one who wrote this article!

Any thoughts ed?

{Editor's Note: Young would not come in without someone else leaving - as I said, it is no more than a possibility.}

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26 Nov 2010 09:01:21
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Ashley young to fill our left wing void. . . what do you think ed? hes a good player and id love to have him! cost wud be an issue. . .(the mail)

{Editor's Note: Possible more than likely I would say.}

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