Manchester United Rumours Archive August 27 2012

27 Aug 2012 17:31:09
Ed is there any intrest from united in Martinez or has the price completely written us off? I remember when we played Bilbao before the match Martinez said "every player would dream of playing here" (at OT) so he would definitely be interested.

Dan {Ed004's Note - I don't think we are interested in him}

If Martinez is not twice the player that carrick is, then I'm looking at the wrong player.......fergie suggests that carrick is the kingpin of our team but bar a twice left him with twisted blood......and they are the benchmark....I'll be very disappointed if city get him......our midfield is still not functioning

I think whether its Carrick or Martinez then we should still try and sign him for a lot of reasons:
1. Carrick is 31 and next year im sure he wont be able to play every game. Martinez is 23 and would be the perfect replacement
2. He can cover in defense (better than Carrick can)
3. He can control the play and surprisingly dribble better than Carrick.

I honestly think Martinez is perfect for us now that Modric is definitely going to Real. I'm not one of those people asking for a dm. I want a technical posession player who can keep the ball and dictate the game like Scholes. The fact that he is defensively good is an added bonus. I dont think he could replace Scholes because no one can in my eyes but he is our best option all round!

Dan

Dan

Martinez is THE player any team should be prioritising if they want to win trophies. Very rare you see a player that would strengthen ANY team and I include Barca in that.

Madness that we are not least TRYING to sign him!

Halesini

It's a damn shame that we're not in for him. He's a fine player. He's also very versatile, can play in centre of defence too but would be an absolute colossus for us in the centre of the park as a DM and being Spanish of course he's excellent on the ball. I'd carry that boy to Manchester! No doubt any team that gets him will be better as a result. ....... Ahhh such a shame!

Come on the Glazers, let's go the extra mile this year and get the team the fans deserve and get Martinez?
Red Baron

If he would strengthen even Barca, then why aren't they buying him?

J - Stand

Cos barca are skint!

I don't think we as fans need to convince the Glazers, but convince SAF. He also has to get rid of Berba, Macheda, Nani, and Anderson to fund partially or all transfer fees for Martinez.

AIJ

Although slightly different (but just ever so slightly)....schweinsteiger is the player we should be going for, he is the best midfielder in the world bar xavi (better than iniesta)

i'v actually heard he may be open to a move to OT after another year or 2 at bayern!

Robbo

27 Aug 2012 14:25:09
hi eds i was wondering if there was any new news regarding witsel? I was hoping we would act on our interest but was aware of his asking price being the problem. Is this the reason we haved moved onto dembele? Also do you believe if united were to bring in any other players it would now depend on outgoings aswel? thanks in advance tom17 {Ed002's Note - Nothing new.}

27 Aug 2012 15:19:31
man utd and spurs in negotiations with m vila

Where did you get this from?

Mad Hatter

Spurs, yes, United - doubt it. Newcastle perhaps, preparing for Tiote leaving?

DarkLard08

Can Ed002 clear up for us who is the most recent EPL club to show an interest in M'Vila is? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Spurs, Newcastle and Arsenal retain an interest. If Arsenal want him he will move there.}

According to ed002 utd has cut sort his inteest.. Nd i trust him
Rodio17

Ed002, where is Tiote going then? Arsenal? United? Ed, there is loads happening at the moment even on a bank holiday, can you give us some info on some players? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Not a good week for me Syd as I am travelling through Friday night and will be several hours behind UK time. I can say that there is interest in Tiote from two London clubs.}

Spurs definately in talks.rumours from the rennes side is that man utd are keen on talks

"Rumours from the Rennes side." Surely that's just to bump up the price

27 Aug 2012 13:01:54
Athletic Bilbao midfielder Javi Martinez hopes the club will reach an agreement with Bayern Munich over him joining the German giants in the near future.

Doh!
Well he will be a wunderbar signing for them. Why are we not looking at him!

Halesini

27 Aug 2012 11:10:14
So United have had a bid rejected for Witsel & Dembele in the past couple of weeks. Will we return to either Benfica or Fulham with a higher bid by Friday? I think we will need to offload players first and that is proving to be very difficult. Fingers crossed lads.

Sydney!

How do you know we bid for witsel syd?

JK92

Syd, best option for me would be let Anderson go to spurs and buy dembele , surely watching the game fergie would of seen he was the better option if we can get him

Dustbin

I hope we do go back even without trimming the squad, as the squad is no different now as when we first bid. I do agree though that we do need to off-load a number of players, players with no future at OT, for me they are; Berba, Mecheda and Bebe not too sure about Nani though. Syd who do you see as surplus?
JR-Red

There will be no more signings

Surplus players are surely: Anderson, Berbatov, Bebe, Macheda, Nani and I hate to say it but .... Fletcher. I appreciate Fletcher will be given at least 6 months to prove his fitness because IF he could get back to full fitness it would be such a boost for the squad. However, for the others its surely time to go?

Halesini

JR, Nani, Anderson, Bebe, Kiko & Berbatov. But we will be very lucky to offload all within four days. Outgoings is dependent on a number of things. A club must want them, a fee must be agreed and the player must want the move. A couple of weeks ago when the club bid for Dembele and Witsel we still had these players here, but we also had longer to get them out. I think buying a midfielder is heavily dependent on our outgoings now. Anderson will only leave if we bought a midfielder first, cannot see us risking being left short.

Four days isn't a long time and we must see some movement fast IMO.

Sydney!

Have a feeling Spurs may buy Dembele before us. They will be flush with cash.....and if you were them...who would you buy? Dembele or Anderson.

The player has to want to move. Even if Spurs moved for Dembele, it's unlikely he'd agree to the transfer with us and RM waiting for him.

DarkLard08

Syd,

How do we know these bids were made and how does it rest with the 'no more signings' statement from SAF ?

Pip

Dembele looks quality

Reports are that Benfica need to balance their books. Witsel could be a go-er? I think we will have to wait until January now, but things will be pushed at. I just think they may fall flat on the deadline and maybe revisit them later in the year if needed.

Sanshine

Pip, I think the manager was being coy, I think he wants one more signing, perhaps two if you include a youth signing and I think the manager needs to move players on before the club will sanction more cash. It would be irresponsible to keep buying players without selling some.

Sydney!

Sanshine, it's highly unlikely we will sign Witsel in January. I think it will be this window or nothing.

Sydney!

Anderson is going nowhere! He started the last game and big part of the Squad. SAF has stated clearly we won't be signing anybody else and personally I don't think we need this holding midfielder everybody talks about! It's not the way we play and we haven't had that kind of player since Keano!

Keane wasn't a holding midfielder in the modern mould. He was box-to-box. Not that these Football Manager classifications really mean that much, anyway. Good players who fit into one team one way might fit into another in another way.

DarkLard08

Ed002 has confirmed we have made a bid for Witsel.

Sydney!

Made a bid for Witsel before SAF stated no more business. I guess the bid wasn't enough to get to the negotiating table. Normally when SAF says no more signings he means it

M'vila quoted at circa £12-£15M with a similar figure required for Dembele (embarrassed our m/f on Sat!). Surely one of these would be a sound acquisition.

We haven't had that kind of player since Kean it is true, but SAF has been trying to turn Ando into a box-to-box type since he arrived. When he has his good days you can see exactly why SAF wants this, but this will probably be his last season with us unless he starts delivering consistently.

As for why we need that type, well simply put we are unable to dominate in midfield. When Fletch was fit he was all over the place hassling the opposition, winning the ball and putting thier midfield under pressure so they'd make mistakes. Without him all our midfield know how to do is pass the ball, we need someone who can win it back and dominate the centre. As Fellaini and Dembele have done to us in the last two games, and players like Toure did last season.

We aren't talking about a defensive or holding midfielder, but a ball winner or powerfull box-to-box midfielder.

Thorne
Thorne

27 Aug 2012 07:33:58
Just heard a rumour that United may be willing to loan Fletcher out for this season to Sunderland, in order for him to regain fitness. I would love if he regained his previous quality and skills so this may be an ideal solution.

I think u maybe on to something. If it was true I think Fergie would want to keep him closer to Mancsville though. Wigan or a lower league club to raise his game.

Thinking about it though, him sting in the under 20's maybe good for the likes of Tunners, Petrucci & Powell to learn off.