Manchester United Rumours Archive February 27 2012

 

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27 Feb 2012 23:08:35
Pogba's agent say's the player's future at United is Precarious as tensions between player and SAF grow not good at all.

RED87

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Mino Raiola is Pogba's agent same agent as Ballotelli and Zlatan the man is crazy,

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Daily Fail quote the agent as saying 'It is a precarious situation. It is difficult, United want him. It is up to the boy to make some decisions.' I'm relieved to see that the agent appears to be letting Pogba make his own decisions because, with his reputation, I don't trust the agent at all!

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He never said anything about letting Pogba make his own decisions. This is a system which still needs to be addressed. There is simply no sense in players having agents who constantly benefit from them moving to a new club.

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Does anyone know what the agent stands to make from the deal
jred

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Asked if there were uncertainties about whether his future lay at United, Raiola said: "Not from our side but that is a question to ask Mr Ferguson."
jred

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I'm sure I read in a few papers that it was around 3 million? Not 100% sure on that though! Could that be what both Pogba and the agent stand to make?

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It makes you wonder whether some of these youngsters have actually got a brain. He can either stay at United, earn £20k p/w or thereabouts, win trophies, play for one of if not the biggest club in the world, be surrounded by world class players and within a year or two get a new contract earning substantially more. Alternatively, join Juventus and earn more for a couple of seasons, but other than that I'm struggling to see any other benefits. He's been on the bench so many times this season it's clear he's in Fergie's thoughts, if only he signed and got a few games under his belt before the end of the season, he could be a regular come the end of next season.

rpc

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Pogbas agent is correct. he has spent the last year listening to promises about 1st team football and then being played for ten minutes against crawley before we roll scholes out of retirement (dont get me wrong he has played excellently but i dont think it was a sensible decision if we seriously want to hold onto Pogba). I dont want pogba to go, but if he wants to play good football, break into the france squa before the 2014 world cup, or progress much further in his career then he needs to start playing actual 1st team football at an excellent club like Juve.
So from an MUFC fans point of view: rabble rabble rabble rabble, stupid agents quick money rabble.
But from a wider footballing point of view: He should go for himself, even if Juve pay him less than us it would be the right move for his career, let alone if the gave hime £30000 pa.

Jaxer

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'Jaxer'

You are talking sh1t, he is on the verge of breaking into the Manchester United first team at the age of 18, 1-2 years before Scholes, Neville and Beckham. It has nothing to do with first team appearances as he wouldn't get into the current Juventus, Inter, PSG or Chelsea sides. It's to do with money, it is also to do with his agent angling for as much money as possible for himself as well as the other agent involved. Pogba is their cash cow.

You think he would play ahead of Vidal, Marchisio or Pirlo? Or ahead of Sneijder, Cambiasso, Guarin, Stankovic or Alvarez? Or Mata, Ramires, Essien, Lampard or Meireles? Or Pastore, Matuidi, Menez or Motta? His best chance of first team footy is at United and if he leaves for one of the named clubs then it's to do with money and only money.

Sydney!

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I think Jaxer makes a good point.
If pogba is good enough for the first team you must wonder what he was thinking when instead of giving youth a chance during an injury crisis we got scholes out of retirement.
scholes cleves giggs anderson carrick jones rafeal fleatcher park, rooney have all played before pogba and we are rumoured to be trying to sign another CM it would be no surprise if he was starting to think he might not get a chance.
jred

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Jaxer's right. The agent might be money grabbing, but the right move for Pogba is to move away from United. Other players such as Gotze are already playing international football, and being hailed as the best of their generation. If anything, we produce very good talents such as Giggs, Neville, etc. But they're never thought of as the best of all time. I feel that's because we don't take enough of a chance with them at a young age. Maybe Paul thinks similarly, and as such sees his career being more fruitful away from Old Trafford.

Percy

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'jred & Percy'

His agent has made it clear that it's down to money. Don't be so naive.

Sydney!

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The good thing about this is United can keep him if they pay what he wants which is meant to be around £30k a week. But the bigger issue is far worse, his representatives all want a piece of the pie too and they are asking for silly agent fees. Pogba is their cash cow.

Ed002, have you heard any more on this situation?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I warned you about this a while back Syd. There is nothing new that I know of but I am on the road right now with no time to check.}

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Obv percy and jred are the same person coz you are both talking sh1t any team in the world would have said yes to scholes coming out of retirment and ''paul'' is simpley in it for the money if he goes because he will be better than carrick and ando plus scholes and giggs dont play every week so get on your own teams page plz the big boys are talkin

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Cotty

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Syd
im not so sure i would say its down to a number off things.
if it is down to money were does that leave us cant afford the wages of the top stars and wont pay for the top youngsters
jred

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Cotters
have a word eh
read my post i never said he is leaving because of first team chances , i said it would not be a surprise me if he was starting to think that he would not get a chance with the players in front off him , even rafeal played in midfield before him.
for the agent this is prob all down to money but could the lad himself off had his head turned by the promise off more money AND first team games , or is he ready to leave a team like united move to another country for the sake of another 10k.
i just think for the player it could be down to more than one thing
jred

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I heard that Pogba is very similar to Rooney in the way that if there's a ball he wants it, if there's a game being played, he wants to play in it. This leads me to believe that while Pogba is merely looking for first team football. His agent is more than likely turning his head towards clubs offering more money under the pretense that he will get more playing time.

Cotty. Who exactly are the big boys?

Percy

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Percy I have been following Pogba since he signed for the club, so there will be no one more p1ssed off than me if he leaves. I remember watching his debut against Crewe and knowing he would end up a world-class talent in the future, I have never seen a youth player with more talent. You are correct in saying he is addicted to football, but he is also money orientated, hence the reason he hired this latest agent, an agent his old agent knew would get him a lot of cash. Pogba isn't a fool and he would know that he has more chance of game time at United than he would get at any of the clubs he is being linked to. He will be a regular from next season onwards at the age of 19. He knows that if he moves clubs on a free he will receive a hefty signing on fee, something he will not get at this club if he signs a new deal. Pogba isn't an angel in all of this, but his agents are certainly trying their best to get him a new club simply because they will get more money that way. Percy it will have zilch to do with playing time mate, I thought it was this, but his agent has made it clear recently what their angle is.

Sydney!

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Mino raiola
“We firstly have to discuss a possible renewal with United, then we could talk to other clubs if needed.

“However, if he arrived in Italy, then it would be to play immediately and not to mature.â€
jred

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'jred'

He is obviously not going to want to go into their reserves is he? Pogba and Raiola will both know he has a better chance playing games at United than in any of the other teams. Pogba will want the best money possible/playing time, but his agents will want him to go to another club so they can get a pie of his signing on fee.

Sydney!

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Syd
I think that's pretty much what I was saying
jred

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27 Feb 2012 19:43:40
I heard that Giggs and Scholes will both stay on for another season! Also, as Rooney is not playing against Netherlands, is this so he will be back for the tottenham game?

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Giggs has already penned a deal I believe? Not sure I'm happy with that as it means were unlikely to buy a top left footed winger this summer. But still he is clearly a great squad player to have around - one look at his stats for this season shows that

Scholes I hope does stay for another yr tbh. He is still one of our best CM'ers and is ideal to bring on with 30mins left to see out the game. So long as it doesnt stop us from buying a top CM'er this year though!

Rooney - fingers crossed on this one, we'll certainly need his creativity against Spurs. 3 points would be massive and put the pressure back on City, who have the harder run in

Gav

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I'm sorry Gav but i don't think Giggs can be labelled as a squad player! Although he doesn't play every game, when he does player he is one of our most consistent and influential attacking players.. Like the goal he scored against Norwich is a perfect example, he's always had a knack for scoring important goals!

More of a special weapon than a squad player ;)

Ozwald

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Fair point Ozwald! That's what I meant really, just not a permanent fixture in the 1st XI. I agree Giggs is one of our more potent attacking options from midfield this year, but I would like to think (or hope) that isnt the case by the start of next season. I would have liked to think that wasnt the season this year tbh lol

Gav

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27 Feb 2012 17:06:20
I honestly think that the two names penciled in for summer are Mehdia Benatia and also Javi Garcia. They are made for us and are Manchester United type players.

Also in terms of a creative player, Gaitan may be the number one target, but i expect that a move James Rodriguez is likely. He has broken into Porto's first team and has 9 goals and 5 assists in his 15 games this season.

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If that was our transfer business for the summer then I wouldn't be too disappointed. I'd much rather see Javi Martinez come in but realistically the 3 mentioned seem quite likely.

Adz

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All good players and not in the stupid money bracket like goetze, modric, bale etc

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I'd definatly support those signings, Benatian and Javi Garcia are really solid and Rodriguez or Gaitan would be great. I'd go for Rodriguez over the two purely because he is a bit more exciting.

I too would like Martinez but we won't be able to compete with either Barca or Man City as they will throw money at him.

UnitedForever

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It'd be a shame to see Javi Martinez at either Barca or Man City as I don't think he'd play that much - at Old Trafford he'd be a great fit alongside Cleverley and Pogba if he stays. I do think we could afford him but depends on the overall transfer plans for the next few seasons.

I do think that we may see a number of departures this summer.

Adz

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Javi Martinez & Iker Muniain would be ideal if we can keep pobga.... muniain is best mates with De Gea and I think that if they are together they will settle quicker.... and stay longer...

if P leaves then I would have to add eriksen to the list......

expensive yes, but this would take us to the next level......and would be worth the investment... + there are a number of players that we could sell to recoup some of the cash and wages...

oxred.....

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27 Feb 2012 12:41:19
Anybody else think Vertonghen would be a great addition to the United Squad when Ferdy Retires (33, seems to be more injury prone and lost a bit of pace), Was very good when he played agaisnt us in the europa league. I know the move is very Unlikely. What do you guys think?

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He was superb yest, scored a fantastic goal

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I thought he looked the business too. Reminded me of Jaap Stam a bit. He is on the radar of a lot a clubs though :-(

Red Pedro

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Wont happen, think about it considering we already have two young CB starting to prove themselves worthy! If we bought another youngish (24?) CB then what would that say to Phil and Chris, or even Mr.Evans for that matter? Vertonghen, knows he could play week in week out at a big club so why go to a club where he'll have to rotate with others? I reckon he'll move to Spurs or maybe Arsenal! If not them, then somewhere in spain?

Ozwald

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I doubt it will happen but when Ferdy does retire Sir Alex will be looking to bring in another and i think Jones will be used as a Utility man now (RB CB CM) Fergueson likes using him in M

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Only for the time being, and when injuries come into it. Phil and Chris will be the our CB pairing for many years i feel! Both great friends and even better players.. I have a strong feeling we could get someone like Benatia or similar status. Not too young, not too old. He knows that playing half the time at Old Trafford is better than playing all the time at a relatively small club in the fading Serie A.

Ozwald

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I think Verthongen will go to somewhere that guarantee's him first team football, i think someone like Napoli could go in for him.

In terms of a new defender for us, i think we should go for Benatia, he'd be cheaper than Verthongen and is more powerful and is also very versatile!

UnitedForever

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Swap ferdinand and 25mil for modric as rednkapp still interested. Buy vertonghen.

TRUMORS

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27 Feb 2012 12:40:41
When Lindegaard returns to full fitness who do we think will start in net. I personally think and hope it will be DDG.

Rudderpost

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DDG is our first choice. He is in fantastic form now. No reason to rest him. I think he has come good now.

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SAF wont bench him while he's on form! Lindegaard was doing well before but i felt he never had many awesome shots to save, so he never came across as spectacular just more consistent! Think we're lucky with our keepers, both seem like good guys.

Ozwald

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Would have lost last two games but for his great saves

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All you are saying he's fantastic. your only saying that because he is not playing awful. he's a very average player

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"he's a very average player" - a very average player who can make saves that 90% of the best goalkeepers in the world couldn't dream of making. He is far from average. He will still continue to make mistakes, but as Sir Alex has said, in two years time, he will be one of the best in the world on a regular basis.

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