Manchester United Rumours Archive June 27 2013

27 Jun 2013 18:20:20
tv confirming that United have had a bid for Leighton Baines rejected, Firstly what does everyone think of him as a potential signing? and also does this mean that the Thiago signing can be sped up as David Moyes must be back from holiday?

Personally I think there are better options available at left back than Baines just because of the fact that he is approaching his 29th birthday. I think a deal for some one like Luke Shaw or Lucas Digne at around £8-10 million would make much more sense?

Thoughts?

TomP

Great signing. People are too obsessed with age. Players nowadays are top atheletes and can play into their early to mid thirties at the very top level. Baines could give us 4 years and only be 33, not that old especially for a full back. Best of all though is that Evra will probably go.

I don't think age is an issue for Baines in terms of the fee. I'd be happy if we signed him for £15m max. and moved Evra on. We could still get 4-5 great seasons out of Baines. But I think Luke Shaw is a better option. He could go on to be England's left-back for many years. He is top class for his age.

Digne has signed for PSG btw.

Luke Shaw isn't available. Unlucky

Sincerely not trying for a wind up here.
I've never considered Baines even close to good enough for United. I'm dreading this signing.

I'd prefer Shaw over Digne, at least Shaw has prem experience and Digne has been linked to both Roma and Monaco so don't think we're interested.

Oh my bad I wasn't aware of Digne's move.

TomP

Totally agree with fee of 12/15 mil. but no more don't want Everton going daft and asking for 20 mil plus, knowing full well how much Moyes rates Baines. How ever having another England international in the team, would not be a bad thing. One last thing Edds any news on players going out of the club?.
Rock The Red

Don't need him, waste of time and money when have enough players there and money can be spent in areas that are truly needed

Melwing28

Luke Shaw and Lucas Digne are not available. Shaw will stay at Southampton until Chelsea come knocking next summer. Digne will sign for PSG. I think Baines is a good signing if the price is right.

Sydney!

Different player but Thiago has just posted a holiday pic with the caption in English. Maybe a sly clue for his new public?

I would prefer someone younger than Baines, Luke Shaw would also be my first choice. I still think there is a season or two left in Evra, so Shaw over Baines on that account.

He'd be a marked improvement on Evra. We need a left back who can go straight into the first team - Shaw is a good two years from that yet.

While evra needs replacing, we need to replace Nani, Anderson and probably Fletcher much more than we need to replace Evra. Spending 12-15m on Baines is less money to spend on more urgent deals.

Thorne

You all watching a different player to me? Just becasue he's English and from Everton, he is a very good LB, much better than Evra is now. You only need to look at his stats. He doesn't get in the prem team of the year for being average. Bains is solid defensively, and great going forward! Especially if we're going to play a 4-2-3-1 formation, we need our fullbacks to get forward! He also has a great end product, good cross, shot, and great set piece! He could play for another 5-6 years at the top level and I personally would be very happy with him at united!

Alex Fergusons Condom

Melwing do u watch football left back is our weakest position Evra has been terrible for the last 2 season just because he scored a couple of goals from corners let's not carried away. Most of the goals we conceded came down his flank, he is now slow and lazy our biggest problem by far and we have no cover fabio went on loan and had a poor season at the worst team in the league and buttner is way off our standard at the moment.

Your right about Thiago's tweet, In full english, Maybe a good sign indeed.

TomP

Are these people who do not rate Baines the same ones who did not rate RVP and thought he was to old and to expensive. Agree with the last post BInes as been very consistent for Everton with great returns in goals and assists. And does everyone think we will just give Evra away?
Acker

Sometimes you need to add experience with potential. Baines isn't as experienced as other 28 year old's in Europe, but in the EPL he is very experienced. For the right price he's a good signing.

Sydney!

I'm hearing all these negative comments about evra, personally I think he's got couple more years left to give. I also think the money could be spent elsewhere and evra definitely stil has plenty of pace in his locker! Wish this thiago deal would hurry up and be completed. Damon

I enjoy watching baines and young play together down the left for England, they seem to understand each other well. Would be nice to see that at utd

I agree that Baines would be a good signing because he has far better stamina and willingness to get back and defend compared to Pat! Like the other poster said his crosses and set pieces are super and Moyes knows him well so I would welcome him with open arms!

I love the fact Thiago's tweet about his holiday is in English, none of his other tweets are at all! Find that very interesting!

Ozwald

Baines is a waste of money, I would stick Fabio into the team and give him a proper run in the team, Rafael only became a good right back because Neville unexpectedly retired and he was plunged into the deep end, if Fabio turned out to be as good as rafael I would be more than happy and we could then spend this money where it is really needed.

Stew4d

Like Sydney said, we need to mix experience with potential and getting the right mix is essential. Baines is very experienced and could be ideal for when Vidic leaves and Rio retires. He will go into a back 4 being 5 years or so more experienced than Rafael, Smalling, Jones etc and I think that would be a good option. I think Shaw would be great for the future but he will chose Chelsea as he's a self confessed boyhood fan and wants to go there. Strange seeing as though they turned him away as a kid and Southampton have made him.

Baines would be a good sign IF manchester United weren't in so much (midfiled) trouble.
Excellent player, one of the best in the world, but Manchester Utd really need so strenghten the mid before getting any player for the back.

I'm not so much for replacing evra for what he brings to the dressing room in terms of the "United Spirit" and the leadership and experience of so many years, being a battle hardened united player that he is.

IF we could get baines for say 8-10 million max then it would be a great deal but when your pushing more towards the 15 million mark its a bit overpriced if u ask me. In saying that, that is the way the english market is. Jordi Alba went for 12 million and he was spains 1st choice left back and like 23 where as baines is approaching his 29th bday. Damon

Everton fan come in peace. Baines is a quality player, you guys do realise he created more chances than any other player in the prem last season and he is a left back. So more than the likes of silva, hazard etc. can't understand all the dislike at him, he will play through injury, works hard and has a quality delivery from dead ball and in open play
Cheeks

Shaw isn't available this summer, and in terms of his development I think that is a good thing. I expect when he does he will end up at Chelsea, but all the big guns will be in for him. I honestly think Baines would be a brilliant signing for you lot. It has been said to death, but his all round game makes him an exceptional full-back, regardless of age. One of, if not the, most consistent performers in the league. It is very rare to watch Everton and not see him causing problems down the left flank.

Comments like 'we need midfielders not LB' are so moronic its unreal. just because we have had a bid announced for a LB doesn't mean we aren't signing midfielders - its common knowledge we are after Strootman and Thiago and look likely to sign both at the moment but should we ignore all other areas that need strengthening until these two are paraded in front of the media?

28 Jun 2013 10:01:22
I really hope Fabio gets his chance, he had injuries & played in a very "difficult" dressing room last season, I think he'll have come back as keen & mature as Rafael. After SIGNING Thiago, we need someone who can sit in the midfield, be offensive or defensive a real "box to box" player who's as good in the air as on the deck who's got bags of PL experience who's settle nicely in the area & knows the Manager very well, oh yeah & terrified us on o d last year, there's only one player we should be looking to Everton for. Fellani plays with a bit of a mean streak! & could be a legend at Manchester United

Aaron Cresswell small fee and still get two more years out of Evra

Baines is the best left back in world football at the moment no doubt about it and the stats prove it glad a Everton man has come on here to defend him although it shows the lack of judgment by many United fans saying they would prefer Fabio or Shaw yes I do think Shaw will be class in a few years time but Baines is everything you want in a player and we will get him it spells the end for Evra though who should be of to Monaco for 8m. Katef

Yeh, I agree with no name above. The fact that we are now looking at LB and maybe Bale/Ronaldo return then that means the Thiago and Strootman deals are practically sealed and maybe need just a few kinks to iron out or the club us waiting to announce them so people should just ease up on the 'we need midfielders not defenders' comments.
In Moyes we must trust.

Special K

If we got Fellaini who personally I rate too highly, that means Carrick, Strootman and Thiago also Cleverley would get less playing time. So seems pointless to me.

Ozwald

Why are going "Shaw isn't available" so maybe Baines. Shaw may have great potential but he is 2 or 3 years away from being a top class left back? Baines is in the England team and currently miles ahead of him? I wouldn't say Baines is one of the best left backs in the world personally, and his creating the most chances in the league is slightly masked by the fact he takes all the free kicks, corners AND the style of play Everton have had.
I would say he is a solid left back, good going forward and defensively and doesn't have any major faults. IF Evra is wishing to leave, he is certainly a good soild replacement for a few years, inspiring maybe not but he could come straight in and do a reliable job. Personalyl I think Evra had a decent season last year and still has a year or two left in him and Fabio deserves a chance still, but i'm certainyl not against us signing Baines as long as it doesn't effect strengthenign in other more concerning areas
Invisible STuey

I think Ian Harte is available for free. He was slow 15 years ago so I would have doubts about his pace!

Invisible STuey are you for real Baines personifies what our great club is all about he never gives an inch fights for everything is great defender great attacker sweat free kick taker amazing crosser loads of stamina not a cheat or load mouth and never has a bad game and is without doubt the best left back around at the moment backed up by stats so you can't really argue this opne mate it is an opinion but a bad one. Katef

Maybe we are all looking at this the wrong way round! What if Evra wants to finish his playing career in his native country? Who would blame him for wanting one more big pay day move while it would make sense for
it'd to cash in say 8 million. Shouldnt we now be looking for an experience LB any ideas?

Acker

Jamiej79
obviously you do not watch football that much to come out with utter rubbish that you have written.
if you honestly think that LB is the main position of the team that needs strenghthening, then you are completely wrong! Have you not seen our midfield, the wings need serious work and so does the center.
If your wanting a new LB, who are you intending to get rid of? Why not give Buttner or Fabio a run out and see what they are made up properly? Evra wasn't that great when he first arrived and nor was Vidic, but given time then worked out for us.

melwing28

Baines is by far the best left back in the prem. he will score you 5 to 8 goals a season and also create 10.

yes he is 28 but Ashley cole is still class and he's 32 so he has at least 4 to 5 year left at the top level!

"Comments like 'we need midfieldersnot LB'aresomoronic itsunreal. just because we have had a bid announced for a LB doesn't mean we aren't signing midfielders- its common knowledge we are after Strootman and Thiago and look likely to sign both at the moment but should we ignore all other areas that need strengthening until these two are paraded in front of the media?"

Ok, so do you think we have an unlimited pot of money to spend? If we sign those two cm's, at about 18m each, and a winger for around 30m (because are there any wingers good enough available for less?), and add the young rightback we already signed, that's about 70m, maybe a little more. Add in Garay and Baines and that's at least 100m.

Now we presumably then sell ando, evra and Nani. That's bringing in maybe 30m? If we're lucky.

70m net spend, I very much doubt that.

Taking evra and Baines out of the equation drops that to about 60m, which is still pretty doubtful really.

I know that football finance is not really that straight forwards, but the fact remains that we will strengthen only a few places at a time, and that at the moment, lb should not be our top priority.

Thorne

Thorne has said it all.
Baines would be a relly good sign, but, like he said, Manchester, although one of the richest clubs in the world, could not afford to spend what City or Chelsea spends.
We still need to get "value from the market".
Citiy can pay 40 mil pounds for a 28 midfilder and, Man Utd, on the other hand, can't. Or might I say that even the supporters would not allow that.
Again: we haven't heard of any definitive sign in the midfield, whereas left back is a place where we still, even after some decline, have a very reliable player.

Moyes is on some long holiday

One other thing about Baines.

I was under the impression that there was some sort of understanding that Moyes will not raid Everton (except possibly Fellaini given the well publicized clause in his contract).

Now maybe this isn't important to everyone, but even if this is merely a "gentlemans agreement", I would be very unhappy if Moyes did not honour it, as o always thought this club had class, unlike some.

Don't get me wrong Baines would be the perfect replacement for Evra, but I wouldn't want him at the cost of another player we need more, or at the cost of Moyes betraying the trust Everton placed in him. Honour and class should mean something.

Thorne

Ye - moyes knew what he was doing not signing a contract at everton so he could come back and pinch players - who will be next fellini maybe - absolute sneak!!

Baines is 27 why would want him
if we can get Shaw/ Jetro Willams from the Holland squad. that's if we not satisfired with Evra, Butner, Fabio

I wouldn't pay more than £15m for him. £15m is just right but anymore is too much for a great left back but one who hasn't won a trophy and is 28. Plus we don't need him. Evra has at least 2 years in him and Buttner looks like a great signing

27 Jun 2013 14:37:40
Well I was on the bus today and picked up the free newspaper to have a read and apparently we are linked with a holding midfielder called Kondogbia who plays for Sevilla.

Does anyone know anything about him or can shed any light on this rumour?

Playing for France in the U20 world cup, been a season I think in Spain and already linked with Madrid and other big clubs too. Looks very promising but inexperienced from the coupel of games I have seen, similar type to Pogba in fact.
Invisible STuey

Chelsea Fan here in peace Kondogbia has been linked with us and city also who see him has a long term replacement for yaya toure the guy is a tank and oen of the many exciting young talents from the french u21 side he is v good

27 Jun 2013 17:23:01
Good player, could partner Pogba in the French midfield in years to come.

He's a big lad reminds me of Wanyama, good in the tackle loves to get forward too pretty clumsy at it just now but bags of potential.

Madrid are keen on him, apparently, so looks like we're all going to miss out.

27 Jun 2013 16:37:42
Apparently United have put a bid in for Leighton Baines 12 Million pounds, can't help but think fellani's name might be mentioned next!

It isn't surprising we are looking to Baines again. The left back issue is still not fixed. One thing I expect of Moyes is that he will sort out the obvious. By obvious I mean the LB area and the midfield area. You have to say that Strootman, Thiago & Baines would go a long way to strengthening our first XI.

Sydney!

Yes, it's in The Times.
Mike B.

The problem is Sydney, if we play Strootman, Carrick, Thiago and Kagawa in midfield with RVP and Rooney up front then the FB's really need to be able to overlap, beat their man and get a cross in. For all his faults Evra can still do this, not sure Baines can. Great with a dead ball but no great pace.

Bid rejected, Everton have no interest in selling Baines at any price according to Kenwright.

Stew4d

Paulo, did you even bother to watch Baines at all last year, he is as good as Evra going forward with a better delivery generally, this said I would still rather spend the money elsewhere.

Stew4d

And evra is still better at his position than Nani is in his. So replacing evra should probably be less of a priority than replacing Nani.

Baines is a better attacking full back than Evra. Plus he gets assists and goals. Evra rarely assists and only scored a few from corners last year because he wasn't trusted to defend.

Baines is the best up and down left back in the game every body is always slagging Evra for not getting back it will be Baines and Felliani like I have said for months also Bale and Will hughes and maybe Strootman to I hope, but the first four are our main targets been saying for a while and shot down at every turn hope ya like humble pie boys. Katef

Katef, it is still just a rumour that we are after Baines and no one has even mentioned Fellaini anywhere so far. Wait a little more before asking people to 'eat their words. '

Katef

Leighton baines was quite obvious to most people your speaking like it was only you who mentioned his name. 90 % of Manchester United fans new we go in for baines. Gareth bale however will not be moving to old Trafford there is no way utd will pay silly money on one player. if we do sign him then I will eat humble pie but I think it will be you who will be proven wrong

I never said you need to eat your words just said I hope you like humble pie and it was a little to early at every suggestion I have made in then past never stopped people saying I was being stupid ie Moyes and Rvp and its not rumours on us bidding for Baines its fact I also expect us to sign Fellaini only other team in England that may try for him is Chelsea and then it makes thing hard for us as they already have lots of his compats and it is London but we have Moyes and I would hope this can lure him to us he is the powerhouse we need in the middle. Katef

And another thing who would rather have thiago strootman and Baines over Felliani Bale and Baines we would much much stronger with Bale and Felliani and that's a fact ok we would be even stronger if we could have all five but that is stretching it just a little but we do have more cash for transfers than ever. Katef

Katef

Where did I say that bains was rumours I said we all new we would be bidding for bains. I very much doubt we will go in for fellaini although I do think he would be a good buy. fingers crossed we get thiago and strootman

We will see no name post and it prob was not aimed at you I also said moyes would be the new manager on here well before he was and got lots of abuse so this is aimed for them and I think Bale is Nailed on he wants united ands we want him from my sources and they ain't been wrong yet I don't much care for the media they tell porky pies and when they do release some thing its normaly as it happens take my comments as u will but Bale will be our big signing

Why would want Fellani if we have Carrick and Clevery

27 Jun 2013 12:22:32
Real madrid have confirmed the signing of isco.

Doni

Strange one, since he is self proclaimed anti-Madrid

Nat

He is signing for Madrid along with Cavani and Saurez and they will try for Bale but he will sign for us. Katef

Who cares about isco united where never in for the player stop being obsessed with who citah are targeting and worry about man utds targets just saying man!

Not man united related, maybe city

27 Jun 2013 00:02:24
Tancredi Palmeri, the Italian journalist usually is spot on with his predictions. He claims that Florentino Perez has made it clear to Carlo Ancelotii that he will try to sign Wayne Rooney.

Shot Stopper

Rooney won't sign for real Madrid. They want cavani and isco, no place in their team for Rooney.

RedBrenno

This a REALISTA Speak, to try to stop Barcalona getting him. There are more politics in Spanish Football that the Houses of Parliament. Presidents are judged on what they spend.

Tancredi, whilst generally providing accurate info, isn't always right in the end. He reports enquiries etc. from clubs about players but the transfer market moves so quickly and clubs make so many enquiries that it's almost impossible to tell who is actually going where. So Tancredi might be right in that RM may well enquire about Rooney, but that doesn't mean he will go, nor does it mean that RM will do anything more than ask about Rooney's availability.

#ags

Barcelona spent a fortune on neymar already and they're looking to rix their weak point which is their defence. Barcelona nor real Madrid want Wayne Rooney, I'd bet my house that he won't sign for either of them, this summer at least.

RedBrenno