Manchester United Rumours Archive May 27 2012

27 May 2012 21:39:56
In my opinion, we should sign Strootman, Kagawa and LB.

Ive not seen much of LB play, but I hear he is a real prospect

Jaxer

27 May 2012 21:12:49
Uniteds odds of signing Hazard on the drift from odds on to 6/5. We are still favourites but only just. Seems hazards agent has advised him to re-consider his options despite the players wish to join united. Can't really see why we putup with this sh!t. If we have offered terms that are acceptable then the player should decide there and then if he wants to join. If he needs to speak to other parties (at the advice of his agent) then we should pull out! This isn't eBay!!
Red1

Who do you think sets the odds, his agent? A change like this in the odds means absolutely nothing, Sneijder was odds on all summer last year and look where he is now. It means nothing as the bookies know as much as us, trust me.

GDS {Ed007's Note - *sobs* NNNNnnnnnooooooo!!!!!!

Hazard knows where he want to go,even his agent knows that,also hazard can agree terms with 50 teams and that's is not an issue here.issue is all this club need to agree a fee for him with his club.lille say they want £32m for him and now is negotiations time that's why he doesn't want to say where he want to go.as soon as lille told him they agree fee for him for both teams so where do you want to go.he'll say.for now he can say anything,just in case we won't agree his transfer fee.so he can moved to other team who'll be able to pay lille what they want from him. as manutd my self i can't wait the day we sign him.

ferdcoast

"If we have offered terms that are acceptable then the player should decide there and then if he wants to join"

Firstly: I might get slated for saying this but; if you were a 20 year old footballer with the world at your feet, and 3 of the most prestigious clubs in the world are offering you contracts, then fair h*cking play for choosing the one who offers you the most money. This world is driven by money, and EVERYONE is constantly looking for ways to earn more. If 2 people offer you a contract, and one is offering £30,000 per year more than the other, you are going to choose that job. The same goes for footballers, if one club offers £30,000 per week more than the other (£1,560,000 more per year) then of course the player should/will take that job. I agree that Hazard had flirted far too much with the media, but who are we to judge if he goes for the money or not, because when it comes down to it, 99.9% of people will go for money, no matter what their profession is.

And secondly: There are two parties that decide whether the terms are acceptable, the club and Hazard. He is perfectly within his rights to decide what terms are acceptable for him, and try to get the best offer for himself, hence why he (99.9% of footballers) has an agent.

Jaxer

(the 0.1% of footballers is Paul Scholes) {Ed002's Note - The key point remains is that any buying club would need to agree terms with LOSC - a point that seems to have been forgotten.}

Thing is Jaxer, If he is going to go to the highest bidder why not have the b#lls to come out and say! I would respect him for it! Instead he is trying to offset his decision by claiming it will be purely footballing reason that will dictate his next move! As far as the bookmakers go, yes they are not always right! But lets just wait and see where his next destination is to be!
Red1

If we took that approach we would never sign anybody. the world has changed

The odds aren't entirely based on what knowledge the betting company has, it also relies heavily on what bet's are being placed. If for example there was a spike in the number of bets on City to sign (for whatever reason), the odds would shorten. The same if there were more bet's on Utd/Chelsea.

You can't read to much into betting odds.

TM

27 May 2012 18:58:15
Just thinking... but what about joe cole?

He said this week he'd prefer to play in the prem again so he'd be an ideal choice.

What do you think ed's

The Red Devil Forever {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}

No thanks...well past his best IMO

He flopped at Liverpool, so you really think he's capable of making the step up to United?

That is a brilliant idea!
Hard working, tough tackler, stamina, determination and skill. He would be a great signing in my opinion.

In Sir Alex We Trust {Ed007's Note - No prizes for guessing why you think it would be a great idea.............it was you that posted it *rolls eyes* Sad.}

Off to the sin bin lol.

Haha well done ed, it was quite obvious the way he signed the post but thanks for showing the muppet up.

He isn't good enough for Liverpool, so how would be good enough for us, its a different level.

GDS

Ed007, it's either Joe trying to get a chance of a lifetime deal at United or some Liverpool fan trying to offload their deadwood ;)

Sydney!

He is a great player, he didnt really get much of a chance at Liverpool, and to be fair he didnt have that much quality around him.

He was class before he went to liverpool, he's hard working, strong and technically very good - that doesnt just disappear, with the way things have gone for him lately we could pick him up at bargain basement price. I'd be happy to see him in a utd shirt.

27 May 2012 17:09:09
Eds, what players have united ACTUALLY shown an interest in and whats the kagawa situation? Have any personal terms been agreed?
Cheers {Ed002's Note - You should read the posts.}

Get off your high horse ed002. It was a simple question. Not everyone has time to read through posts on the Internet hense why we use sights like this {Ed002's Note - So what makes you think I have any inclination or time to summarise anything for anonymous glifnardic CS trolls like you?}

Chill out,it was a simple question. Wouldn't take you much longer than writing your last response.

Andyred {Ed002's Note - So I have to waste my time to compensate for the cretins who cannot be bothered to read the other posts?}

Is it that time of the month?

Duggo {Ed007's Note - No, I have checked ;-)

I had to laugh at ed using the word cretin thats language from the 1980's at least

27 May 2012 16:39:21
irish newspapers saying that utd have told pep guardiola to keep them informed of his plans on when hes coming back to football, i would love to see him manage utd, but obviously only if fergie is ready to retire

This has been coming for over 2 years . Joseph (pep) told the world and his father that he will have a break and would love to manage united he even suggested working under saf at the current stage in his career would be an honour. Sit back and wait ... This one is a cert and if ya ain't done it already this is one the bookies are gonna take a massive hit on. Before anyone says mour( lucky cry baby ) inho, charlton and co would never have him, he does not represent the united way. And yes I have talked with sir bobby a few times and his biggest dislike . Arrogance . Over his stiff cold bones will he let a jumped up arrogant . Special in ?his dreams ,loud mouth represent his life
Long passion at the top
Level. Get ya money on miss the boat. Worst kept secret in football !

27 May 2012 15:48:23
Ed002, reports from France about hazard to Chelsea. Is the situation still the same?

G.A.G.U.S {Ed002's Note - Broadly, the situation remains the same.}

Broadly? So there must be some change ed? {Ed002's Note - Change from what? From what FAcebooks says? Twitter? The misunderstanding of fans who waited for Hazard to name his destination after the last game of the season?}

No need to be funny ed I was only asking! {Ed002's Note - But I have no idea what you think is the correct situation - were you one of those sat there naively thinking he would blurt out where he was going after the final game of the season? Or were you one of those who understands the issue with Chelsea. I really don't know.}

002, What is the situation, so to speak?

MPez {Ed002's Note - Now is simply the time to wait and see - I have explained the situation already.}

ED002 - "broadly" sounds like something minor had changed! If you had to bet your last Rolo on a club that Hazard signs for, who would it CURRENTLY be?

Cheers.
DodgyBanter {Ed002's Note - I am not really a gambler.}

27 May 2012 15:36:11
IMO I would be quite happy to take a chance on Essen if he is released by Chelsea, has had a bad injury but with a good Pre season and run of games I think he has a lot to offer especially in Europe, I wouldn't think he's in a position to demand high wages due to lack of games so could be a good move

I wouldn't be surprised if Anderson was sold along with park although I don't think park will be sold until kagawa is brought in for obvious reasons {Ed002's Note - Why would he be released from his contract?}

Park will probably go but Anderson is not going anywhere, mark my words. SAF has said that he will become a fine player for us and that last year Anderson was considering leaving, and SAF talked him out of it. Anderson will be here next year.

Essien may be released only because he is never fit. Chelsea may want to make room on the wage bill so getting him off it would be worth it even though he would have to be payed a release fee.

RedDevil19

27 May 2012 15:17:04
That's why we need to sign Nick Powell, this lad is a genius


Coombesy

Oh God here we go, he scores one goal that people have seen and he is a genius! Hate it when this happens. The boy has talent but lets calm down!

GDS

I scored an amazing goal earlier against my 9yr old son maybe Im ready for the premiership now, get real

The lad is obviously blessed with a lot of talent and ability but its league 2 a year on loan in the championship and then the premiership to judge his long term prospects

A very talented young talent who didnt look where the goal was when he hit it,look on youtube for the one he scored that was voted goal of the season.people were talking about him long before todays game so dont base your views on today and the goal.
johndenton

Great potnetial, maybe sign him, have him with us till Christmas then loan him out

I don't , I base it on the fact he plays in league 2 , look on you tube at goals bebe scored for the reserves some amazing goals he's still not good enough for man utd though

27 May 2012 14:47:53
The papers are going to milk this Eden Hazard saga until the very end, so expect all sorts of rumours this week.

G.A.G.U.S

27 May 2012 13:13:43
a quick question ed: why our name is so far not related to yaan m'villa? or u have any other info? does any1 else know anything.. this is a guy we need..i guess he is going to be batter even than a few well reputed players for this position. and a bid of around 20m mark is not bad when we sort out a big question for years to come further. need ur views ed!!
rodio17 {Ed002's Note - Manchester United were interested in the player.}

I hope we at least approach Rennes for him ... imo he is the perfect fit in our midfield he has power he can pass and is still young hes the best second option to javi martinez who i think is out of our reach

27 May 2012 11:53:10
Just a thought.... it is great being linked to Kagawa & Hazard but I think we are still not addressing our biggest weakness last year... a ball winner and enforcer in the centre of the park. Before everyone jumps down my throat about Carrick.. I ( and England!) don't rate him. If the likes of Henderson are rated higher than me I would retire..!!!!

Back to the point....what about M'villa? 17.5m for a french international midfielder seems good value and always seems to be good reports about him.

Bullseye50

Well said bro..completly agreed with u.. i came here to post this only.. and here u r first.
rodio 17

Henderson aint thought of higher hodgson wanted him to be back up and he said no so he made henderson back up. but carrick is a much better player than barry i hope he is injured cause he is rubbish. carrick is a very good player he is very subtle in his approach to his position and doesnt tackle hard a lot but that is because he tries to read the game so he doesnt need to slide around he is a lot more elegant and cultured footballer should of been one of the first picks for are midfield i think alongside parker with gerrard in front with one striker and two wide men i think we would be very good with that team

Carrick has retired you muppet!

Being saying this for a while we get bullied in midfield too easy mvilla would b perfect. We need somebody who is not afraid to put the boot in when required and we have not had that since keano left, also agree about carrick not good enough for utd now or ever good pro but that's it.

Damian M

Carrick has NOT retired you muppet!

He has retired from international football

Carrick has had to play second fiddle to Dumb and Dumber at England for a long time now. Why should he keep going and wasting his time and energy, just to watch Lampard and Gerrard given opportunity after opportunity after opportunity while they fail to deliver anything tangible in an England shirt?
Carrick would be great for England, but if the FA want glory hunting, ego centric show offs in midfield, then let them have if.
Christ, even Gerrard admitted that England have been too arrogant and suffered with delusions of gradure in previous tournaments....so what do England do this time? They pick all the same players that have failed so poorly at every other major tournament. Terry? really? Even after his mutinity attempt last time?
England and The FA are so far off the mark as far as football goes that i applaud Carrick for giving them the finger.

Bob

He hasn't retired, he just stated he didn't want a 'bit part role' which is fully understandable. He's a good player, made the most amount of interceptions of any United player last season and when he sees useless, boring, unimaginative muppets such as Jordan Henderson being considered instead of him I too would probably say f*** off! It's disrespectful. Even Scholes mentioned how good Carrick is without people knowing because he doesn't 'wow' people he's just super consistent and hardly every caught out of position. Fantastic passer as well!

Ozwald

I think Carrick is our only decent midfielder not drawing a pension. Also I don't rate England one bit. If we have Rooney and England Young and played each other -United to win at a canter. H**k England, so boring and yes I am English
Mik

27 May 2012 11:16:21
I think we should stay well away from Hazard. I feel his ego is already too big. He has admitted he will be using the premier league as a stepping stone to Madrid/Barca a few years down the line. He has been playing mind-games with us, City and Chelski, I think it is disgusting that Lille and his agent are allowing him to just say what he wants to the papers/tv stations. He clearly he has little respect for discretion and for his current club Lille.

If we were able to get him for a reasonable fee and wages then I wouldn't have a problem. But with FFP rules coming ever more likely it will be hard to re-sell with much of a profit like we did with Cristiano.

I feel with Hazard we will make him into a prolific player and then only able to re-sell at 40-50million max. Which for what we could do for how career I feel is very little.

Kagawa, a centre mid and a fullback would suffice to put us back into a position to reclaim the title.

Foozeball

I think we should enjoy the playing time..sorting out ego and value for money and sell on value is job of a manager..why are u doing it for free??

When did he say he is using the prem as a stepping stone?

Foozeball

He sounds very similar to Ronaldo with the big ego etc. Maybe we need someone like that and with that we will get talent to go with it, something missing since Ronaldo has been gone. Who cares if he stays for 3 or 4 years and we sell him for at least double the amount. 3 to 4 years of challenging before we go on with a huge transfer fee to spend on 2 or 3 top quality players

He has previously said that he wants to play in England and Spain.
If he comes to England now, then it's fair assume that at some point he'll want to move to Spain.
I'm not aware that he used the phrase "stepping stone" himself.

Personally, i think Kagawa is the more important signing and i'll be happier for tying that one up than i would be for getting Hazard to sign.

Bob

27 may 2012 10:18:44
well according to the daily star city have offerred hazard 8m a year. i think this week were gonna hear all sorts if rumors on hazard, it's guna be swings and royndabouts this week but hopefully it seems hazard will join utd as he quoted he was more interested than playing than earning more. i mean seriously if utd say pay him 140,00 a week is that summat to moan about! i'd be lucky to earn 400 a week let alone 140k. to sum it up i'm convinced hazard has already signed a 5 year deal from what's coming out of mercato365 so i don't think he will go to chelsea or city if they offered him 300k a week.

what do u guys think? any of the eds know anymore latest

8m per year is 150k per week, not 300k, lol.

MPez

Some reports today were also saying that Citeh have pulled out of the race to sign him.

27 May 2012 10:03:58
If Hazard come to Utd do you reckon theres are possibility that Rooney will take the number 7 shirt and Hazard the number 10?

RedMUFC

No way.

UNITED_LEGENDS

It was just a thought. Do you think we will get him. I'm convinced he will choose MUFC over City & Chelsea!

RedMUFC

It's reported today city have pulled out and Chelsea are favourites , we don't know anything for certain but if he does choose Chelsea without a manager it tells you everything you need to know

Hazard could take the number 9 shirt if berba leaves

What about rooney taking the number 9 as berbatov is on his way out.

No chance.
Rooney is our number 10, he does it very well.
Clevs/Carrick/Ando/Pogba/Valencia/Nani all have the potential to benefit fron the number 7 shirt and they could all fill it imo. All more appropriate than Owen.
But, i imagine a new boy will probably get it, Hazard or Kagawa it seems.
Number 9 should be given to Chica or Welbz. They are important players and have both done well for us. Any new striker should get a squad number.

27 May 2012 09:14:48
ed, now that Spurs have said that they would be ready to listen to offers for modric, are we still interested in him. you reckon Fergie may bid for him? {Ed002's Note - It is perfectly possible an enquiry could be made.}

You think united can sign Modric ? United are not able to sign Shinji kagawa for 16/18 Million and u think buying modric will be easy?Forget about him he is not gonna come here We can only show intrest in players but cant sign {Ed002's Note - You have to be some sort of half wit if you read any of that in to the above post. If there is someone nearby have them feel your head to see if it has gone soft.}

27 May 2012 01:04:49
City have upped their hazard offer to 155k a week
So i think thats blown us out of the race for him

Behave, you haven't got a clue what has been offered unless you are one of the parties involved. If he comes then good, if not we are UTD and will carry on regardless.

RRED7

Stop reading papers they know less than you he will not join City as he will not be be picked infront of Silva and nasri
as already suggested he likes the number 10 so Rooney will be the new number 7
and quite rightly on merit
ARB

He actually said he wants to play the number 10 role, I don't think he was necessarily talking about his shirt number. In my opinion he's much more likely to take the number 7 shirt due to its commercial connotations.

His agent said they have stopped negotiating so why would a new offer have come in?