Manchester United Rumours Archive May 27 2014

 

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27 May 2014 23:28:38
Do we have any interest in Adrien Rabiot?

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{Ed002's Note - Juventus, Arsenal and Chelsea enquired about Rabiot last summer and PSG were not keen to sell. Chelsea and Arsenal both are still keen but would both likely see him as one for the future. He has been bleating about not being in the first team; a move to London would not resolve that in the short term. I am not aware of interest from Manchester United but Newcastle and Manchester City both had him watched.}

27 May 2014 18:47:21
any truth in the rumours that Van Gaal is going to bid for Strootman instead of Fabregas

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United and Liverpool took a look at Kevin Strootman before he left PSV. I understand that there is much speculation but as of this time there has been no bid made. Unless his injury clears up to where he can at least pass a medical even if he cannot prove his return to form would be high risk for the buying club unless the transfer was caveated and he perhaps stayed in Italy until next year.}

27 May 2014 18:37:13
ed 2 a quick question if you've got time m8, is there any substance to these jordie clasie and martin indi rumours flying around or are the journo's just talking nonsense as usual? thanks in advance :-)

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{Ed002's Note - Feyenoord's Clasie remains a target for Fiorentina but whilst interest from Spurs seems to have waned, Sunderland, Swansea and Manchester United are showing interest.

Feyenoord's Bruno Martins Indi is subject to interest from Manchester United, Roma, Milan and Everton.

I will also say that Fiorentina's Stefan Savic is a target for Milan and Spurs. Do not rule out interest from Manchester United.}

I think the good news is that a lot of the players that LVG has identified will be attainable and we will not fall short in the chase for them - for example, it is obvious that Clasie would come here and not Sunderland. No CL will mean that the big boys choose the bigger clubs 8/10 times. So we need to pick and choose very carefully until we are in a strong position once more.

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In what world is it good news that we're targeting players that none of the other big clubs are interested in?

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Is savic the former man city defender?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

Isn't Stefan Savić the lad who flopped at City? Just did a little read up on him and supposedly his form has been impressive in Serie A and he's grown up a little so could well be a solid buy for us.

Would prefer a slightly older, more accomplished head to go with our current crop of defenders but may prove useful for us like Garay but that ship may have sailed unfortunately

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What's good about us targeting players that swAnsea and Sunderland are targeting? It says something that these are the type of clubs in for these players

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{Ed002's Note - So you are some kind of transfer snob then?}

Thanks for the info ed2, first class as usual ;-)

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27 May 2014 18:20:42
another signing Angel Gomes (17) we are making some big waves here :)

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I thought he was 13?

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Yep he's in the U15's I think?

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He is 13 and has been called up for U17 even

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27 May 2014 15:42:58
Do any of the Ed's see the supposed move of Mauricio Pochettino to Spurs a positive step in securing Shaw or any other Southampton players?

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{Ed002's Note - Entirely unrelated - the situation with Shaw is as simple as making an offer that is acceptable to the club and then the player making a decision. If that can be negotiated down from the figure that Chelsea were quoted in January, then it might also attract a bid from elsewhere. We will see.}

Has our £27 million bid for shaw been rejected?

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If you snooze you lose. We have dragged our feet too much in regards to Shaw and if Chelsea end up with him after all of this time of negotiating, then Ed Woodward will face the axe. Woodward better start making things happen or he can kiss his MU job goodbye.

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Pochettino leaving to Spurs has only made or chase stronger Van Gaal will gaurentee him first team football and he may feel Pochettino leaving unstablises the club

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I hope we pay what they asked Chelski for in January. I have the feeling that Chelski are just waiting for us to get the price down and then will come in an match it. Being a boyhood Chelski fan I think it's obvious where Shaw would choose to go. If we offer £30m (which I believe was the figure asked of Chelski?) I think we will get him.

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Paddy, him leaving Southampton was never the issue. If Chelsea ever rivaled us then that was the issue.

redseven, I think it was closer to £35m. I think Chelsea will happily pay £30m for him and like you said Luke is a Chelsea fan.

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Call me naive but I would like to think that Shaw sees all the effort we have put in and that makes him feel wanted. We've seen players talk about similar things after signing for clubs before. No doubt Chelsea have made it know that they want him but we seem to have put in the leg work which, I hope, would make the difference.

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Shaw has recently come out lately in disgust (possibly a too strong word) and the departure of several coaches. The Manager leaving must also make him think.

I rate Shaw very highly and think MU should break the bank for him. Having Evra around for another year will do the young lad wonders settling in.

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TBH tk red out of Chelsea and Man United, Chelsea have made more effort and had a longer interest in him.

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Syd - £35m is a lot for a player of his level and with his experience; but in this instance I would pay it. Usually I would be against overpaying - but I really do think he will be that good in a year or two.

TK-Red- Assuming we've been haggling over the price (which seems like the case) - would he not think that we didn't value him enough to just pay what was required to take him. They've told us what it will take to get him. If we want him enough we would pay it.

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I agree with redseven, we shouldn't miss out on a top quality young English player in a position we desperately need just for the sake of saving a few million.

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MU must only be 2-3 million sterling away from agreeing a deal. Just give it to Southampton in add-ons. There is too much to do this summer to be dragging our feet over Luke Shaw.

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{Ed002's Note - You are making up numbers again Syd.}

Ed, we cannot be too far away from agreeing a deal with Southampton. Perhaps I should have said "a few million" as opposed to "2-3 million".

Can I ask if MU would be aware of Chelsea asking to be kept in the loop? If so do you think that could give MU the kick up the arse that is needed here?

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{Ed002's Note - It rather depends on what you see to be a "Few" Syd - but I would not say that either. As for the second point, I am sure that Manchester United will be aware of the conversation and what Chelsea asked and what Chelsea have agreed with Southampton.}

Thanks Ed, can I ask what sort of figure it would take to get Alberto Moreno? Sometimes you know the figure a club will accept, Muniain is an example of this. There have been numerous others. Can you divulge such info or no? Would he cost significantly less than Shaw? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to the figures Syd but there is a different issue related to Moreno - that I am not going to go into here as it is unrelated to MU.}

Fair enough Ed, if that issue can be sorted do you think Chelsea would opt for Moreno, or is the home grown quota issue leaning them closer to Shaw? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the quota Syd, and I doubt the other issue is resolvable. We will see.}

27 May 2014 13:18:24
Apparently arsenal have been offered Di Maria, no idea if it's true, is there any interest from United and would that be followed up with a bid if he were to be made available?

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27 May 2014 06:42:50
Ed is there any interest in schweinsteiger as quoted in the papers, and also surely he isn't available for just 10m, wouldn't a lot of clubs go in for him?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know if there is interest of not. The cost is of no consequence.}

26 May 2014 23:52:51
Next season I'm not so sure LvG cares even 1 jot about big names he only worries about his system, I think we are all going to be amazed, disbelieving, angered even, how United start I think we will start slowly as the players get beaten into shape for the system.

We will have players who we thought were finished at United playing, I wonder if as a real outsider even Saidy Janko could end up in the first team squad.

Then again I'll probably be shown to be totally clueless

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I agree. I think that LVG will bring a half of Dutch squad, with no big name. Really would like to know who are LVG targets.

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I agree, he's not going to have very long to implement his style between after the WC and before the season starts, therefore it's going to run into the season. I think around Christmas time the players will start to get used to the style and tactics.

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Any player who takes 5 months to xmas to get used to a new system should not expect to keep there place in the team. These are highly paid, highly skilled footballers so if they cannot adapt to a fast pace, exciting new system there is a big problem. The only exception ill give is when they are asked to play a boring slow system like under Moyes.

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It's not just about each individual player adapting, the players must learn to work together as a unit. Things like this do take time. LvG will probably have just two weeks with all of the players together. It will take much longer to get things the way he wants it. So we may be plodding along up until around Christmas time tweaking things game by game. I still think we will be an instant improvement on last season, but for us to be challenging the best I think LvG will need a few months to get the players used to his philosophy.

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Out of all our fringe players, I expect Lingard and Powell to be the closest to the team unless they are loaned out. I would not discount Bebe though, a big, quick winger who likes to cut inside and fire bullets.

I disagree about Janko though. Van Gaal likes his wingers to stay wide, and cut inside the second they get the ball. Janko, up until now, has played as an out and out right winger, running down the byline and crossing it, something that is unlikely to stick well with a manage who likes a modern version of total football.

Janko is more likely to make it at right back in the long term.

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I am starting to agree with this. I think we all want the big name players to get excited about but from what I have read Van Gaal will not buy them for the sake of it like Moyes did. If it means younger unexpected signings then that is fine by him as long as they fit his system.
As for players there now I have a hunch that Nani may get a final chance as I think his speed and skill suits the 433 system. who knows!van gaal maybe the one to make him work.

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Van Gaal always seems to start slowly with teams until his strategy is in place he aims for intelligent players as thicko's will struggle.

As every player has to sacrifice himself for the team some players will never adapt Nani is one ~I expect to soon get short shrift from LvG Bebe wasn't bright enough to apply himself in training he admits, I wouldn't be surprised if Cleverley gets inspired to turn into the player we all thought he could have been

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Pardoe, I agree with all of that. I just said on the Banter Page that Andow, Bebe & Nani will impress in preseason, but by October they will be out of the team. They just cannot follow instructions. Cleverley albeit a player who has struggled under Moyes (one of many), is a bright player who will follow instruction. If he isn't sold he could be someone who will work well under LvG. Very similar to Clasie, although Clasie is playing with freedom and he is on top of his game. Cleverley is nervous, scared on the ball and afraid to press forward. Something he wasn't afraid to do as a youngster, even up until the age of 21. In a three man midfield Cleverley could work well. That being said I wouldn't stop looking to sign better players.

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