Manchester United Rumours Archive March 28 2012

28 Mar 2012 21:06:25
Edd and you guys are see you are all convinced that Ferdinand will stay on,may ask (1)Do you think SAF will reject that good offer from the Chinese club for Ferdy,a gud and rare offer? (2) Do you think Ferdy will take a massive £50000 pay cut to stay at United and turn down a £250k tax free per week from China?

It would be very hard to turn an offer like that down when you are at the end of your career.very big money.i think he might take it to be honest.

Its not all about money - he is a millionaire several times over already. Think outside of football - is he willing to uproot his children, take then out of their schools, bring them to a country where they dont speak the language, leave behind his family network, leave his other business interests to someone else etc. I cant see him leaving for China....USA maybe at the end of 2013.

IrishRed

Rio's always been known to wear his heart on his sleeve, he's the kind of player that cares more about the badge than the money. One of our most important players, on and off the pitch! Doubt he's going anywhere.

Ozwald

It's called loyalty fergie showed him loyalty during his drug ban and countless injury spells and i feel ferdinand could repay that loyalty by staying on

28 Mar 2012 19:20:29
after some find outs and talks around staffs.. here are the final transfer targets.. which SAF is hoping to lure in june only..except 1. but he is prepared this time to go extra mile for it..
so lets see
GK : none.. whatever names u hear r made up story. DDG is nd will stay as No 1.

RB: clyne is nearly done( free- 3m). wil get regular spot if rafael cant stay fit for any long now. but rafa is 1st choice in SAF eyes.he rates him high.
CB: none.. all story . ferdinand wil be kept for another season atleast. SAF is surprised with Evans raise to the occasion. so he thinks we r ok there. vida,evans,jones,smallings.
LB: surprise here, evra wants to go back to france. nd wil be allowed to also.SAF has watched aly sissokho( 9m-12m). wil go for him. with fabio nd zeki as back up.
WINGS : NONE.. SAF thinks we r ok there.
CM : higly talked from last 2 seasons. martinez ( 25m) and axel witsel( 12m) are sort listed.one will join.( price war is deciding factor here) javi garcia are fake stories.
ST/AM/CAM : eden hazard( 22m) has been persueded to join. berba is making the way. SAF feels rooney alone is not enough in every game.spcly europe.

future signings:lucas has already signed and kovakic is most likely to join as well, only reason why SAF has let morrison leave. as he is getting trouble free lad with same potential.

RODIO17

Rubbish, we will not sign Witsel and Martinez. Evra in all likelihood will probably not be sold unfortunatly.

I think the best summer we can hope for is:

Clyne
Cissokho (think Evra's going to stay)
Martinez
Hazard

That would be the dream, but players like Witsel, Gaitan, Izaguirre etc are SAF's back up options which hopefully he won't need.

RedDevil19

He said one of Witsel or Martinez.

I'd expect Clyne, Cissoko, Witsel, Hazard, Young striker.

I just got goose bump after reading it. I think Welbeck will get that sharpness soon. And Hernandez would be perfec Super sub. With Martinez(fingers cross) fletcher, Carrick, Cleverly, Ando and Pogba in midfield(Tunnicliffe needs little bit of boost!). United looks goods. With future midfield maestro growing up nicely! I am finally looking forward to Man utd Midfield option. Personaly i would opt Goetze rather then hazard.

So whos the one player who wont be joining on june who SAF is prepared to go the extra mile for? ...gotze next summer?

When did Lucas sign? And which Lucas? (I know it's not the scouse one)

Best we can hope for is clyne? Reddevil19 are you his agent ?

Clyne
cissokho
martinez
hazard

if this is true this would be a fantastic summer... you say Lucas has already signed, which lucas would this be ???

Oxred

Not sure the credentials of ur sources RODIO17, but regardless, I would go for all of that - sign me up!

DodgyBanter

I'd imagin he means Lucas Evangelista the 17yo brazilain who signed tye other day.

Shappy {Ed007's Note - Aw FFS!!!! Not again? Who?}

Too many Lucas's for your liking Bond? ;)

G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - The thread the other day pickled my mind GAGUS lol.}

The other day bond mate we had three young brazilian lads from deportivo come over for a trial of sorts it resulted in us signing this Lucas who's a midfielder who can play as either an AM or DM. The other two(Agiular and another name that escapes me atm) went back to brazil but we are supposedly keeping an eye on them. Hope that clears things up abit mate. Lol

Shappy {Ed007's Note - Are you sure that's where he plays??? ;-)

Desportivo. Lol. I missed the s, in fairness it is late. Lol. The other lad is Bruno Gomes. But thats it from me, i'm off for some shut eye. Night guys.

Shappy

Arrr so its the lucas that plays in either dm/am. rb/lb, cb/cm or up front..

got it now...

thanks

oxred

Ya my ideal summer signings would be clyne,cissokho,martinez and hazard.i think we could go a long way with those players.

28 Mar 2012 13:10:36
Nathaniel Clyne is pretty much a United player. Great potential may take a season to settle in but the lads going to be the future England RB if he keeps progressing the way he has been. No longer will we have to rely on the twins being fit or Jones and Smalling playing out of position not to mention our best winger having to play RB (Valencia is case 'our best winger' wasn't clear enough) :-)

United Till I Die 1987

Im quite keen on Rafa being our first choice RB. I think he can only get better and better with more involvement. The two of them are very driven players, who want to represent Brazil. I suppose a bit of competition will be good. Have you any idea what price is being touted for Clyne?

Gar

Fingers crossed!

Ozwald

Gar, Clyne will actually be out of contract in the summer, but being 20 years old i believe we'd have to pay training compensation fees. Someone brought up a figure of about £2.5m which is way to much. I'd imagine about £500k to £1m ish?

Ozwald

Clyne's contract is up in summer, so will be available on a free, however United will need to compensate Palace for his training and development, prob around the 1.5 - 2.0 million mark.

Cool, I wasn't aware of that! That's a steal then! Cheers guys!

Gar

I don't see how training compensation could be £2m.. I mean in the January transfer window, the price quoted for Clyne was about £3-5m in terms of a transfer fee. But yeah fully agree 'Gar' it would be a steal! ;)

Ozwald

Chelsea were ordered to pay £3.5m upfront for Sturridge, a further £500k for every 10 senior appearance up to 40 and a further £1m if he gets a England cap. So Sturridge ended costing Chelsea £3.5m-£6.5m. City are entitled to 15% of any sell on fee too.

He was only at City's youth for three years so I am not sure were they got their valuations from? Maybe Ed002 could shed a little light on this? But I imagine Clyne would cost around £2m, perhaps less.

Sydney!

To be fair I hope this is true but just to be awkward I disagree with the future england right back,with kyle walker only being 21/22 I would say he will be the england) for many years to come.

28 Mar 2012 07:41:53
I really don't get it. Why people are this obsessed by Gaitan?

I don't think he is the right player or the world class player we're looking for. Gaitan is just an average player. And he may find really difficult to adapt in England, like Veron, Forlan,... So rather to pay more to players like Bale, Modric, Hazard, Martinez than experiment how would it be with Gaitan!

Your right but if he was bought alongside other players that are awesome like Hazard etc....I would be happy. Its clear that Gaitan has the potential to become something great with us just like valencia did. But Hazard, Modric etc are already better players than him

lewis.no.9

Every player you buy is a gamble, you want to spend 60m on Bale and Modric but how do you rate the last two players we paid alot of money for from Spurs? Buying the big name players doesn't garrentee that they'll work out. You just need to trust the scouting team have done their jobs properly.

Shappy

Average players don't top the CL assists table for the season....more accurate is Gaitan is far less exciting an acquisition to fans because we know less about him than the other options, haven't romanticised his abilities, and the whole of Europe isn't falling all over themselves to sign him to the same degree as some of the others you mention

Forilla

Agree with the first post, gaiten is a good player no more. Also at 23/24 i dont see him improving into a world class player. When u watch some of these young players u Can just tell if they Are going to be world class ie gotze, hazard. I'm gutted gotze just signed a new contract, as I really think he would've been an excellent signing.Dortmund have signed reus so where will the Dortmund coach fit kagawa, gotze. Maybe one of them is available.

'Forilla'

Then how come he is being touted accross Europe with a price tag over £25m?
Answer: Unnecessary hype

'lewis'

Hazard has a lot of potential but his attitude lets him down, Fergie could mould him into that as he did with Rooney. but Gaitan is no better than what we already have and in left sided options in Nani, Young

The only player mentioned which could easily step up into our starting line up is Martinez and maybe Modric. Martinez has that bit of extra steel and class needed that we are lacking in the center of the park. It may be unlikely that we get him, so as Shappy says, trust the scouts

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My friend, if you saw the match Benfica vs Chelsea yesterday, you would have seen that Gaitan is a fantastic player, he was penetrating the left flank all the time and he has a great stamina, defending , not afraid to beat this man.If Benfica would have been more cliniclal in front of goal, they would have easily won the match.

The more and more I think about it the more I don't want us to get Gaitan everytime I've watched him I haven't been impressed. Javi Garcia is very good and has impressed me I hope we're going for Garcia and not Gaitan, time will tell I suppose.

United Till I Die 1987 {Ed002's Note - Manchester United, Arsenal, AC Milan and Bayern Munich have certainly been looking at Javi Garcia but I suspected there may well be a push from Manchester City to take Garcia as a replacement for Nigel De Jong. However, Garcia has signed a new contract at Benfica making a move less likely and I suspect Manchester City turning their attentions to Martinez.}

Shappy, you trying to say Carrick hasn't been a success at MUFC? :|

Ozwald

No i'm not, I feel he's been a good player for us but alot of people don't rate him for some reason. All i'm saying is we've given Spurs 47m for two players do you feel like we've got value for money? Both Carrick and Berbatov looked better players at Spurs then they have done for us, so maybe Modric and Bale wouldn't look quite as good with us as they do with Spurs.

Shappy

First time poster...i feel that Carricks form and play all depends on him babysitting the older players who play that cm role. When we were at Loftus Road, he was really good. At Bilbao..really..park n giggs infront of him doesn't seem forgiving..lol

Gaitan,Witsel & Garcia all look average to me, which is fair enough if we were to pick up any of them as squad players for an average price,however this would not be the case as Benfica would demand top dollar.

Why add more average players to an average squad. The premier league as a whole is declining and united are the best of a bad bunch. This summer is Crucial that fergie gets it right. If he wants to play the high tempo like Bilbao and barca then buying gaiten and modric he must not. The way forward is hazard/gotze, Martinez, munian, cavani, lavezzi, hamsik, kagawa etc
Any two or even three if we sold either nani or young, along with a left back is. a massive step forward in the right direction. No one can come on here and say these players are not available or there is no value in the market dross. If the price is right any player is for sale. NO MORE AVERAGE players

The Chelsea match was nothing to go on... he was up against Paolo Ferreira who has had about 2 starts this season, and is way past his best. Gaitan is only slightly above average in a crap league.

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