Manchester United Rumours Archive May 28 2012

28 May 2012 23:50:27
Been reading the site for the past two years, and like many was hoping that United would indeed sign for United. When there were rumours we had signed him, most people seemed to be happy we'd signed a quality player, when the rumours shifted toward city or chelsea, he became a money grabber or there was no room for him in the team, how would he play inside of nani, young or Valencia and he would be played behind the stiker if we did get him. Now with his signing to Chelsea, he's a money grabber, he's not proven, he's going to flop, people can't wait to see him fail to be proved right. Some fans on here seem to have an overwhelming sense of entitlement to whatever players we're linked with, Sneijder should be honoured that Fergie was looking to sign him, he should be lowering his wages, and doing whatever he can to play for Utd. I'm sorry but this is their livelihood and in some cases a short one, players are entitled to sign for whatever club they like for whatever reason and not be lambasted simply because they didn't join Manchester United just because we were interested. As always great job on the site Eds {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate and welcome.}

Because my friend football is tribal. If a player plays for your team he's a God, if he plays for another team, he's a devil, simple as....

Should be Hazard and not united in the first sentence

Well written, but you never signed

lorcan

Personally my dissapointment isnt at th eplayers directly (though Hazards whoring about has doen him no favours). It is about the changing face of football. You talk about there "livelihoods", that sums it up perfectly. Footballers in this era are generally more interested in money than prestige.
The fact Man Utd is losing out on players regularly to some clubs that are obviously good clubs with a lot o fmoney but none of the glamour and history of ours, and lets not forgtet we are still being very successful, they arent turning down a club that isnt competing, is quite sickening, not just to Man Utd fan but to a football purist as a lot of the glamour is bein gtaken away for players greed and instant desire to play champions league football every season etc
Invisible STuey

Not a True Fan

Pedantic!.... you must be a teacher.

What an honest update. I have tried to put up posts like yours but seem never to appear, I wonder why Ed. Man utd still have a chance in the next few years to win the league again but let's be honest at one time we had the financial power to get any player. But sometimes everything comes to an end. The most important thing we have the history, the Glazers will milk united untill it's last drop. They don't know anything about football. Just sad to be witnessing the decline of man utd. I'm even surprised pple think Mourinho or Pep will come to united just like the signings the will go to Chelsea and City. {Ed004's Note - Maybe because the posts are being updated and posts now. It would help if you left a name so I would know who I am talking to or if it is just someone complaining for the sake of it...}

Whenever i leave a name on things it never seems to come up and to the fellow no name posters no i am not a teacher and yes i am a fan of United {Ed004's Note - So what is this name you tend to 'say' you leave behind then?}

I always sign as J - Stand but it never appears either.... {Ed004's Note - Have never seen that sign off name before...}

Tried "Barca Devil" a few times but it never came up so assumed I had to pick a different one so picked "Irish United Fan" again didn't come up after a few tries so not sure whats happening, i've left an email address

28 May 2012 23:27:04
First time poster but a regular reader with interest. I've heard that Hazard was trying to demand the No. 10 shirt which means he not only wanted pay parity with Rooney but his shirt as well and there was a rumour doing the rounds in Manchester earlier today that one of united or city were going to denounce interest in Hazard imminently and this is why Hazard brought the announcement forward from after the England / Belgium game so it looked like he was still in control of where his destination was.

Fitzy

So is Mata being stripped of his number?
Can't see it happening

28 May 2012 23:09:02
Seeings that chelski got hazard is there any chance of signing Lucas from brazil?

No chance mate.too expensive for us.

ferdcoast

28 May 2012 22:58:19
i think the kevin prince boateng rumours will become stronger sooon with hazard going to chelsea, i think we should go for strootman, boateng, modric, seedorf for free and hunterlaar for free

Boateng would be a disaster buy. And that's before you calculate in the attitude and delusion of grandeur the lad clearly has.

SC

28 May 2012 22:39:04
Ed Do you think that wages had a big part to this Hazard decision ? as united would never of matched chelseas wages for a 21 year old which is silly money would you pay a 21 year old the money higuains etc are on? {Ed002's Note - No. You keep forgetting LOSC.}

Champions league football, big wages, a pad in London and last ,but not least, a club that allows petulant players to get what they want. How could he not sign?

SC

Ed. Surely if he'd agreed terms with us we'd had an offer accepted by the club? It may or may not be an issue with wages we offered him - but I can't see it being an issue with the amount we bid.
T0MB0Z

Ed, why would lille have a problem with hazard going to chelsea? surely chelsea will pay whatever lille want so its pretty much a done deal, or is this not the case?

MG {Ed002's Note - Lille don't have a problem, but agreement needs to be reached with them as they are the selling club.}

28 May 2012 21:30:45
Ed002, how was your flight? Can I ask is the Hazard to Chelsea a done deal pretty much or is there still a chance of City or United upping their offers? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Flight was alittle late otherwise fine thanks. It is a pretty much done deal - a few fluffy bits to sort out. I don't know what ofers they have made, but Real MAdrid were looking keen over the past few days. There is a chance someone could still persuade Lille to look again at the issue.}

To be honest, if he didn't want to join MUFC even with lower wages, i dont want him to join anyway. If we have to make an improved offer, money wise then what does that tell us about the type of footballer he is? Berbatov joined us despite the amount of money City were offering! Thats the attitude SAF would like to see..

Ozwald

Exactly Ozwald i would much prefer to see Rodriguez join

Ahhh Ed 002 are you going on holiday ? {Ed004's Note - Yes he is...}

Oz, there is zero evidence that we offered less in wages than City and Chelsea. I think we can gather through what Ed002 has been saying that Chelsea convinced Lille more than Chelsea convinced Hazard. Again it looks like it was a case of his agent and current club telling him where he is going to go.

Sydney!

28 May 2012 22:28:14
All we need is some firepower up front and a solid central midfielder the rest is gravy

We should sign Yann M'Villa or Kwadwo Asamoah
We should sign Lewandowski or Higuain
Then Sell Nani and sign Rodriguez
Then sign Kagawa if we can

I dont think we will sign any striker, we will sign kagawa, maybe gaitan and some young talent but we will not sell nani

Rodwell is twice the player M,Villa is and two footed you probably don't know which foot the much hyped lad uses
Muniain,Rodwell & Baines that will do and probably finish another 25points ahead of Chelsea
In Fergie I trust {Ed004's Note - We will not sign Rodwell due to his injury record that will only get worse as his hamstrings (think it is them) get worse... He has also stopped his improvement and is the same type of player he was 2 years ago with minimal if any improvement. I assume you have never seen M'Villa play before?}

Why he is innefective in most games

Higuain or Lewandowski? Doesn't seem like a very difficult decision to me. It's like asking if you'd like to go out for steak or have a happy meal.
T0MB0Z

Did that guy just say Rodwell is twice the player of M'Villa ? your mad mate M'Villa is just about as good as it gets behind martinez theres him Moutinho Strootman Asamoah Javi Garcia

Yeh but you get a toy with a happy meal TomBOZ......

rodwell is twice the player... you an everton fan trying to get rid of him..

m'vila will be the first name on blancs team sheet and we will get to see what he is about in our first euro fixture....

just to wet the appetite though:

In the last Ligue 1 season, he averaged more passes per game (71.1) than any other player and also produced more accurate long passes per game (7.8) than any other outfield player.

Oxred {Ed004's Note - I rate him highly... It would be him or Martinez for our key midfield signing this summer}

Your not Mr comolli in disguise all this pass completion nonsense, look at Sir Alex,s latest signings young & English all the names you've mentioned would not improve us just look at Arsenal who went down the foreign road
Rodwell will become a main figure afor both Utd & England.

If we signed M'vila, Higuain, Rodriguez and Kagawa we'd have one of the strongest starting 11's in the world - let alone an improved team based on this years starting 11 (based on individual players). Whether or not they could play together or not is another matter...
T0MB0Z {Ed004's Note - I think we are badly missing a left back there...}

Carricks not leaving so why Martinez who looked just as exposed against Barca on Friday night.
As for M,villa please name me the last holding player Fergie signed?its a journalistic phrase which as become fashionable for those fantasy football managers!!

Perhaps. Is still think Evra can recover his form and play on for another few seasons until Fabio is ready to take the position(assuming that he does). If you must link us to LB's there's talk that we may have already signed Jordi Alba (who is twice the player Baines is). That said I've only just read it (although it's in a few places) and some are saying he may have been sold to Barcelona rather than us.
T0MB0Z

Rodwell was outstanding for England on his full debut ok he's got an injury soon after but he'll start this season in the red of Manchester
Remember we're you heard it

Noname- fantasy football managers or those who follow football outside the EPL and can recognise a quality young player when they see one. In answer to your question - the last decent holding mid we signed was Owen Hargreaves - who was a key player in our only Champions League win in the past ten years.
T0MB0Z

Hargreaves played wide right in that run a great player when he was fit who was comfortable in a number of positions like Rodwell.

Rodriguez has signed for Atletico Madrid I think? Ed's probably know more.....

United Till I Die 1987

The only comparison worth making between Hargreaves and Rodwell is that they are both injury prone. Let Liverpool take Rodwell and hope that rather than pay over the odds for English players we try taking a few risks with players who've shined outside of the EPL. Why take average EPL proven players for the same price as potential world beaters?
T0MB0Z

Different Rodriguez. We're talking James - Atletico signed Cristian.
T0MB0Z

Strootman/martinez should be the only targets for that midfield position

sparkyred

28 May 2012 22:21:06
Golly we only lost out on a player who obviously wasn't interested in Chelsea till they won the ecl, the ego he has must be huge to be allowed to announce where he is going on twitter. United would always be the ones to announce any transfer news. Hope his ego passes the medical. Come on we only lost the league on goal difference with an good squad compaired to city who spent millions, Fergie is wise enough to know problem players, let's try get modric now and maybe left back and hope cleverley starts like he did last season before his injury! In united we trust!

No!! not modric again please stop mentioning him

28 May 2012 22:17:25
Christian Rodriguez has signed for Atletico Madrid from Porto, NOT James Rodriguez.

Supasub

Thank God

Breeno

I thought I had the two mixed up in a reply to a previous post higher up, I now know I have lol

United Till I Die 1987

28 May 2012 22:01:44
As far as I can see United have a transfer and wages policy which cannot be broken.manutd we'll never compete with chelsea/mancity/barcelona/madrid and milan's team on transfers .when the last time we sign a player who both of this teams want him? we can just sign unwanted players.lets forget about winning back the league and champions league for our own benefit other wise this glazer's family they'll kill us.i can't just waiting to hear our normal excuses as usual, modric is too expensive,same to martinez,cavani, so i guess we can go back to bebe type of player and hope they'll become world class player in 5 years time.on kagawa we just waiting for other team to come and get him so we can say we have try to sign hazard and kagawa.damn before i wanted the season to be finish so we can have peace of mind and trying to rebuild our team now i can't wait this transfer window to be over.gutted teams used to be scared to come to old trafford never mind to face us now even stoke believe they can even beat us.omg Ed we got a lot of stick from ignorant rival mancity last season. we can't take this any more.

ferdcoast

We have the funds otherwise we wouldn't have been one of the 3 clubs whose bids were accepted.If money was the sole issue he'd be at the Emptihad next season for some reaon he's done an Obi Mikel and gone for the team that finished 6th in the prem last season.Maybe you need to take some anti depressants and move on mate

Why don't you go and support another team if you can't handle 2 out of 3 titles!...fans like you make me sick! You forgetting England's biggest star plays for us?...you forgetting we have the best manager of all time?...young, jones, de gea not goo enough last year I guess?...let's all wish united would spend £200m on players, but then complain that season ticket price doubles as its a business..but them I guess u don't even know how to get to old Trafford

I agree all the players we have been linked with over the last few years and yet we haven't brought one big name since Berbertov it's players like bebe obertans etc the gaps about to get even bigger

You obviously weren't there during the early seventies when we bought players like Alan Foggan! Get a grip and get off your play station type football. The reality is, is that some teams literally have a bottomless pit of money, and if they want to dig deep then there is little we can do about it. Yes we do need a couple of very good players, but we also have some excellent young players coming through who in the next couple of years will be bursting on the scene. Keep smiling and be proud of what who we are!

BS lads! The Glazers are sucking the transfer money out of the club, Ronaldo wasnt replaced because we are a selling club and its all business. I would love to see the fans boycotting matches until the Glazers either pump money into the club like th City and Chelsea owners do or else sell to someone who will

Flimbo

Give us your season ticket then and I'll get rid of it for you!

The wage structure at United has nothing to do with the Glazers.
It's always been the club policy to have realistic, managable wage bill.
The Glazers are indeed sucking money out of the club but the wage structure is not their doing.
I have to say, our wage policy is not the problem. It's sensible.

We ain't good enough last season,we struggle a lot on champions league even on europa last season,or we forget so soon, what bilbao did to us.that was shame,we got football lessons from young and small team?knockout by basel? come on guys,other teams going to get better the strong team going to be even stronger.
pls guys try to put ya name down,when you make your point.

ferdcoast

Throwing money around isn't the answer.

We do need to spend, but throwing tons of money at players just because they're really good will get us nowhere. As Arsenal showed before they lost most of thir top players, you can have all the attacking and playmaking talent in the world, but if you fail to address obvious deficiencies in your squad you will get nowhere.

We did incredibly well last season considering our injuries and the weakness of our midfield.

We have great attacking options and a surprisingly solid defence (most of the time). Where we failed is controlling games in midfield, and attacking from midfield. Give us Kagawa for the attack and a combative midfielder, plus fletcher back to control midfield against big teams and we'll be back on top.

As for the Glazers, they are stopping us spending as much as we would like now, but as the debt clears we'll have more and more to spend, and unlike City or Chelsea it'll be money generated by the club and therefore not affected by FFP rules. I don't like them either, but in the long run they will make us a stronger club financially, even if they do take money out.

After all, they know that there will be no money for them to take unless we stay at the top, so they will spend what they need to to keep Utd at the top where they can keep milking it commercially.

28 May 2012 21:51:38
RODRIGUEZ on verge of signng for athletico Madrid !Keep ticking off those names boys !

NAMELESS CHILD

No he isn't

Its cristian Rodrigues not james rodrigues they have signed

Wrong 1 mate

Wish everyone would just calm down!

28 May 2012 21:40:14
Obi mikel, Essien, Robben,Benzema, oezil, villa, nasri, silva, sneider. The evidence is compelling that United have been seriously ineffective in the transfer market the reasons are mainly financial but also related to the strategy and approach. If you cannot sell the idea of playing for man united you are an idiot. The current financial position and complete incompetence of the individual's sent to negotiate transfer will ensure that united will not be signing the hottest talents on the market. They will botch the Kagawa deal and we will end up with someone else's cast offs. Very very disappointed. Every football fan from the age of 10 upwards knows that united's midfield has needed serious world class enforcement for a number of years and yet nothing has been done. The excuse of no value in the market is a thinly veiled disguise for incompetence and lack of cash. This will not change whilst the current regime is in place. Fact.

Go and support City or Chelsea then

According to talk sh*t you can add Hazzard to that list as well

Im bored
mikel didnt we sign him then chelsea signed him or something strange
essien idk what happend
robben terrible offer for him or something
benzema almost joined us then goes to madrid last minute
ozil never wanted to move to england real was 1st choice
villa never wanted to leave spain and who wouldnt join the wolrds best team
nasri city offered insane amounts
silva never heard about any massive interest in him
sneijder wanted stupid wages

Well said. I am sick of that.

Strong Zimbabwean Manc.

Save this for august 31st mate. we could sign modric, kagawa and baines in that time. Sort ur attitude out.

Gpot7

I agree with u 100% infact I posted up something similar here a few days ago. Kagawa won't be utds next signing, it will be left to late and again ur right it will be the case of "theres no value in the market at the moment" tbh we herd that last year! all were buy is a couple of unnowns, "of the future" and giggs and scholes will be hugely relied on battling against yaya, kompany, now hazard.

I have to agree with the original poster. Everyone can see and agree to the statement made there. Whether your utd to the core or not the evidence is there for all to see. We don't get these players and then we get the "we tried for x player but...", and "there is no value in the market". Fergie started the mental transfer market by selling Ronaldo for a massive amount. We are tending to sit and be linked with world class players but not doing enough to get them. I appreciate its tough times, but its only gonna get tougher if we sit back while those around us sign the world's talent

Sambo

I'm sorry. Are you suggesting that signing Leighton Baines is something we're supposed to be hoping for?
T0MB0Z

U say we've needed players for a number of years......check our last 4 seasons mate i'll take more of that thanks very much!

It was more the point that we could make several signings during the transfer window so stop whining and wait and see, but yes i do think leighton baines would be a gd buy, few better left backs available.

Gpot7

Having to bring scoales out of retirement and losing pogba adds to the fact that we can't seem bring in any top European talent ! Either the yanks are to blame or david gill is useless ! Either way it smacks of gross mismanagement at board level !

I take it you would include Fergie in that 'current regime'?

Are we talking about one of the most decorated club teams in world football since the glazers,gill& sir Alex got together what more do you want!Real Madrid have spent millions more than us and just won la liga
Wake up And stop panicking we will challenge on all fronts next season!

Essien, Robben and Mikel were pirated to Chelsea by Peter Kenyon when he left United.
Benzema, Oezil and Villa all said they didn't want to play in Enlgand.
And we clearly dodged a bullet with Sneijder given how little he has played this season.

Stop being so bloody dramatic.
Moan by all means but at least moan acurately.

Bob

28 May 2012 21:36:45
With Hazard joining Chelsea, does this mean Chelsea have lost interest in Hulk. Quality player i would not mind him at United.

Hulk is a lazy sulk grabs more than ronnie with little end product. Would not take him on a free his wages would prevent us bringing through 3 players with real talent

The odds suggest otherwise. Last I heard there was a slight disagreement over the transfer fee (£2m or so in it) - so I wouldn't be surprised to see him there as well. After all - what's £2m to a billionaire?
T0MB0Z

You can f*** him right off. How much do you think he will demand, fee, wages, agent fees. The whole deal would be mega and for me he's not world class

Chelsea will still be after Hulk, you can guarentee it. Chelsea will be the big spenders this summer.

United Till I Die 1987

28 May 2012 21:29:09
Missing out on Hazard is disappointing but United really need to step up their efforts to get James Rodriguez! This lad is seriously good and will be cheaper! Under Fergie he will develop into a better player than Hazard! He also wants to play for us and is not a massive primadona like Hazard who has to announce he's signing for Chelsea on twitter just to gain more followers!

28 May 2012 21:06:42
So now that Hazard has chosen Chelsea (The team that were nearly 30 points behind us) do you think he'll try and sign a backup? Personally I think he only tried to sign Hazard because of the high quality that he is.

Hoppy

No I think he tried to sign him because he's really bad...

To me Hazard was a luxury - we need another AM (Scholes legs need a rest) and a replacement for Keane / Hargreaves. and a left back.

A left wing would be nice as well - but not with all this fuss.

Mike

We concentrated on other things and we won, wat did u nd up with? 10 cups in 8 years for us only 8 for you

Your 100% right Hoppy. United only 'interested' to please the fans. United were never going to offer 160 odd grand a week for him.

United Till I Die 1987

28 May 2012 21:01:56
So now the United fans who wanted Chelsea to beat Bayern now realise the downside of them winning the competition. Chelsea as runners up in 6th place in the EPL had zero chance of signing Hazard. He wanted London, but his only options would have been United or City. Oh well I guess we can blame the Glazers for him choosing London over Manchester ;)

Sydney!

Everybody will blame the glaziers! Personally I don't think we have grounds to complain as we haven't stopped winning titles under them

Lol exactly Syd! I'd much rather us buy players who actually want to play for us, namely Kagawa and Rodriguez, who I as well as I'm sure many other United fans would be more than happy with. Both players have stated that they would like to play for us and posess the kind of quality which we are lacking, so to hell with Hazard! Add to that a solid Midfielder and hopefully competition for the hapless Patrice Evra, and we have ourselves a hugely improved side to the one that came within 60 seconds or so of winning the League. The Southern Red

Syd when it looked like hazard was available your first shout was he will go to city for money he only wants money then when chelsea sign him its he wants London you always have an excuses.
could it be that chelsea have just sold the club to him and he see's it as a better career move than united or are you going to say hazard based his move on which city he would like to live in.


Can united get the top players ive been asking you this for a while pal and its starting to look like no
jred

Of course we can, United were never in for Hazard. Should of been as he's the closest thing (I've seen) to Ronaldo but weren't as we don't have that kind of money.

United Till I Die 1987

Glazers fault that Chelsea beat Bayern?
Hmmm, stretching it a bit.
This is one of the first years we haven't won anyting under the Glazers.
Im not a fan of theirs at all, but blaming them for that is daft.

Jred
looks like u dont like utd tht much... sounds tht way in this comment... and city said directly they are letting Hazard deal go as his wage demands are too high so yeah he is going to Chelsea for money
sorry if my English was bad im not from England

28 May 2012 20:45:48
Hazard has just announced on twitter he is joining chelsea. Breaking news on sky sports

This has to be about money i am rearly starting to worry CAN we compete for the big players or is it a smoke screen and our real targets havnt surfaced yet i hope the latter cause the way it looks we have been blown out the water again

28 May 2012 20:06:23
If i am right to think that Anderson wants to go back to portugal, surely its worth a shot at trying to sign Javi Garcia who i believe is class at holding the midfield and can play in defence im not sure what is valuation would be maybe 15m + Anderson? or maybe Anderson wants to go back to his former club Porto to try and regain the talent he once had if thats so why not try for Moutinho?

28 May 2012 19:16:14
Sly spurts news reported Eden hazard would announce who he was signing for . They then said apparently his club was not willing to do a press conference but Eden would state on twitter. Does anyone think he could be coming to utd and they don't want to announce anything as they would like to introduce all there signings at once as with previous windows business. And also do you really think he would go to Chelsea as they have yet to decide on a manager yet {Ed007's Note - Do you think Sly were maybe wanting you to phone up and cover the bet you made last week when their 'sources understood' he favoured United....surely they wouldn't direct you to Twatter knowing that it was full of talk of him going to Chelsea........Why does Sly give you the odds on every story they run with? Don't you think it is a bit strange that a sports news channel is sponsored by the company's betting division.... just a thought.}

Hail ed-002 and all his wisdom. {Ed007's Note - *ahem*....... :-)

Totally agree ed

clt

More than a thought ed !!!!!!! Sly are cleaning up ! Look at the Sly odds now . . .Chelsea odds drifting, United's shortening!
Lump on the "fourth " team boys !
Steve

Sorry for what may be obvious to all but do Sly have a gambling operation?

Mike

Haven't Southampton made a bid or did i dream that?

He has stated on his twitter that he is signing for the champions of Europe, gutted to be fair.

28 May 2012 19:06:07
This Hazard saga is like what we had with Wesley last season. I say to hell with these players, if you don't want to play for Man Utd go & ply your trade elsewhere, we are the biggest club side in the world & if that does not float your boat, well your not fit to wear our shirt, rant over, end off:)

Well said

28 May 2012 18:27:34
if Chelsea really do get Hazard then what does it mean for their young Brazilian talent lucas piazon he started to make the bench recently and at 18 his development could be marred by the Belgians arrival. Just a thought, I am not suggesting we make a bid just interested to see if he becomes available in the near future.

Piazon is a talent. Shame to see it wither in the Chelski academy.

Cban

Piazon is vastly overrated. This is a player who cost them £5m and he was playing in their academy. Mats Daehli, Andreas Perreira, Adnan Januzaj all cost less than 10% of what Piazon cost combined. I have seen a few bits of Piazon and he has only played well once and that was playing against 1st/2nd year United scholars.

Sydney!

To be fair it takes a young fella time to get used to playing a different style of football. Imagine a few Chelsea youth team players going to play in Brazil. They would get torn to bits.

To be fair it takes a young fella time to get used to playing a different style of football. Imagine a few Chelsea youth team players going to play in Brazil. They would get torn to bits.

Well I saw Piazon against our boys in the FAYC and he was head and shoulders above the rest.

Further still, he has a good all-round game and likes creative link-up play.

If we could get him I'd love it, absolutely love it!
Possibly a better talent than Neymar..

Pritpal

28 May 2012 18:07:37
Hazard chose United over City. But when Chelsea won the champions league and entered the race he then chose them. He's making a mistake though, only united can progress him to his full potential like Ronaldo. Plus Chelsea have Mata an City have Silva and he won't be guaranteed first team football. So he is going back on everything he said and doing th opposite. DantheDevil

Has hazard said he is joining chelsea? No he hasn't...... until he confirms it he could be at either 3 clubs!!

UNITED_LEGENDS

I don't think he sign to chelsea anyway lets wait coz no club say anything yet,but since we lose our big names players,manutd we turn to be unactractive club for big players.what we gain more since glazer's family took our team its one excuses after another,they don't love our club,they wan't to make more money without spending.mancity owner knows the status of their team,so they used their money to change that and its working for them by offer big money to players.look at nasri issue,only 20k we miss him,while we all know how much we need him .we spend 7m for bebe wtf,also i'm still wonder why we sell the club anyway,we was doing fine without glazer's.we all know if you have big names player every body want to play with them.to be honest i don't expect any thing big other wise i'll be disappointed.we need modric,hazard,cavani,martinez types of players in our club and that means we need to spend money,which i can't see where its going to come from.then we can put 1/2 of those young players every year,we can't win anything with the kids,i'm so scared when this feelings come to my head,we are turning to be like liverpool.and mancity keeping spending for big players.the pain in our heart its going to be huge.

ferdcoast

So he's off to Chelsea. If it's playing time he wants he'll surely get it there but he's not going to win anything with them. How do you have the option to sign for 3 clubs and decide to join a team that currently has no manager? Hope it works out for him and it's probably best for ManU because they don't need another winger but lots of reinforcements in CM. Fergie go out and get a defensive minded CM pls, get Kagawa, a striker and a LB.

KB

UNITED_LEGENDS. Only sharing what was confirmed to me. And oh would you look at that I'm right ........

28 May 2012 17:13:44
Wonder with this match fixing flaring up again in Italy, will Pogba have a change of heart and sign up for Utd.Would'nt be a bad thing!

28 May 2012 16:24:36
Another week, another twist in the race for one Eden Hazard. Last week we had signed Hazard, now he's apparently on his way to Chelsea. The whole situation is amazing. Hazard has continued to generate immense interest via Twitter and at long last it looks as though a line can be drawn under the situation and we will find out once and for all where he will be playing.

Personally, I think the centre of midfield should be our priority. As highly as I rate Hazard I think he would be a huge bonus but I don't think he's a player we are desperately crying out for unless we were to sell Nani. People saying Hazard will be a bench warmer, well yes, only if he goes to City. He will walk into Chelsea's team. I think we should concentrate in getting a deal done for Shinji Kagawa. When you look at everything involved in signing Kagawa it would be the perfect deal both commercially and in improving the quality in the middle of the park. On top of that I'd love to see us sign one of Yann M'Vila or Kevin Strootman. Although I think Kwado Asamoah, Nuri Sahin are viable alternatives particularly Sahin who seems well down the pecking order at Madrid could flourish at United. Also, I hope Nick Powell signs, been mightly impressed with him, a player with a big future.

On top of that a LB is a must to challenge Patrice Evra who's performances have been in decline over the last 18 months; David Alaba, Leighton Baines, Emilio Izaguirre or Jetro Williams would be ideal.

And, depending on who leaves a naturally left-footed winger would be worthwhile; James Rodriguez fits the bill!

Just a few thoughts.

BERT

Evra is responsible for both goals scored against France yesterday. He's past due date.

I'd love to sign hazard but if he goes to Chelsea when they haven't even got a manager it says everything . I want an exciting player to come in though to add some excitement to the side

28 May 2012 15:07:35
syd,ed 002 did mention in the chelsea site that there is nothing new regarding hazard,but one club spoke to LOSC recently,never said which,ed said he/she wont rule any1 out just yet!could be wrong,as ed could be a little lagging,i should say as he was in reporting marin's transfer,but again he could be corect as he is spot on for 99 times out of 100!

silv3rzz ;)

Ed002 is a she no?

1redarmy {Ed007's Note - I would hope so!!!}

28 May 2012 14:52:08
so last week it was united this week Hazard is off to chelsea, dont believe what you read in the papers they change there mind on a daily basis and most the time its BS.
jred

We were favourites before Chelsea won the UCL apparently. Ed002 said one team have spoken to Lille so I imagine whoever that team is are the one's in the driving seat. We will see I guess jred mate. Although I do not think we will find out today.

Sydney!

Syd
I've been away a few days so I may of missed something but why will we find out today.
Also has united city or Chelsea scheduled a press conference or are they just going to let the player announce it
Jred

Read your first post wrong
Jred

28 May 2012 14:12:11
All this Hazard talk. This is the situation. Hazard has been playing a game here.
He stated he had agreed terms with 3 clubs, United, City and Chelsea. The agreement with United was for far less money than the other two. Last week his people had hinted in the press, and picked up by Sky Sports for example that his preference was to move to United, but that was purely to get City to increase their wages offer. It had the opposite effect and they reacted by cooling their interest, and that left Chelsea. You see, he has used United all along to attempt to get City to improve their wages offer and then create a bidding war between Chelsea and City. He was due to announce his decision after the England game, but now City have backed off, and United have never been a serious option due to wages, he will officially announce he is moving to Chelsea today. Hazard was never going to sign for United!

There is zero evidence to suggest we offered far less money than City and Chelsea. We do know that London was preferred over Manchester and he 100% wanted UCL football next season, so when Chelsea won the final they became a serious contender. I did say Chelsea winning the UCL will affect our business this summer before they beat Bayern. I am not too disappointed as long as we sign Kagawa and Rodriguez. But will City now look at Rodriguez?

Sydney!

I havent seen much of James Rodriguez. Whats he like? playing style, type of player? position? price? chance of transfer?

Sambo

Similar to Hazard but without the attitude issues and actually wants to play for United. Can play RW, LW or central and would cost around £25m. I would say chance of transfer materialising is high if United pay what Porto want. Agent fees and wages will not be an issue. Hazard would be my first choice, but Rodriguez is a very good second choice.

Sydney!

I dont see why there is this much fuss about hazards, we already HAVE wingers, and they are world class, well, not world class maybe but they are good, and certainly we dont need such an arrogant player who cannot even keep a lid to his mouth, united should go for modric and baines!

Nice, we need that special someone, that we havent had since Ronaldo left. The player that makes things happen. Hazard has caused all sortd of excitement for weeks now with his flirting etc and now even I am thinking FFS just get on and make your move.

Agree with Sydney, this saga is getting annoying and this hazard fella is a t**t. If united come calling how can u turn them down. I don't want to lay into him as there is no proof he is going to Chelsea. But if he does Rodriguez should be the next target, as he is as much talented but not technically. Why not put in a offer for gotze an test dortmunds resolve. Gotze, kagawa and Rodriguez. There is just that little glimmer of hope hazard will choose united as saf would have pulled out long before. Or this could be another ploy from the club to fool us to think united have money to spend.

Abs

It is both a ploy to make us think we are making huge signings and we also have an interest to bump up Hazards salary and wages as both Chelsea and Man City will struggle to fall in line with the new fair play regulations

It is both a ploy to make us think we are making huge signings and we also have an interest to bump up Hazards salary and wages as both Chelsea and Man City will struggle to fall in line with the new fair play regulations

28 May 2012 13:46:50
So many people are misinterpreting what Louis Saha has said about Eden....he said 'apparently' after reading the rumours of him going to Chelsea for a Medical...

Use some initiative for crying out loud.

MPez

Well said. All this is all based on one tweet by Saha.

This is not all based on one Tweet by Saha, Saha's Tweet was based on the strong reports that have been circulating for the past few hours that he has chosen Chelsea.

Sydney!

28 May 2012 13:34:34
hey have Zeki fryers or Davide petrucci signed new contracts? haven't heard any official news on that

G-rav

28 May 2012 12:35:49
On BBC website, Saha has just said that hazard is away to Chelsea.

I know i just read it too... but what connection does saha have to Hazard?

1redarmy

How does Saha know anyway?

LOL does Saha work as a BBC journalist now? He wrote on Twitter that it would appear he is, is that enough for BBC to report it? Twitter is a joke.

GDS

Hazard should just be honest with his descision and say who he is joining i do hope its united but if its not its not the end of the world, there are other players out there that would love to play for SAF & United, he seems to be making out he's the best player in the world but he's far from it, he is a very good player but i now realise how big headed he is,


UNITEDFORLIFE75

28 May 2012 12:57:21
talk sport - hazard to chelsea

Talksh1t? That makes me think that he most likely wont be going to chelsea haha...

UNITED_LEGENDS

28 May 2012 11:55:22
Following on from my last post. There are rumOurs spreading like wildfire that hazard is on his way to CFC for medical today. I hope not they will not improve you like utd will

Neil

God i hope not i know they won the champs league but they wont do it again, he would learn so much under SAF and gecome a great player at united

UNITEDFORLIFE75

I Work just round the corner from CFC training complex if there is any news at all there are reporters there with cameras hedging their bets that something will happen and guess what NO sign of anybody!

28 May 2012 10:14:17
If we could bring in a left sided midfielder apart from hazard and being realistic who would you take ? for me it would b James Rodriguez

Same, he is a player who can excite as well as give us even more pace.

Hazard before Rodriguez though Im afraid.

1redarmy

Yes, I agree but i think we are going to miss out on a gem in Rodriguez hes left footed and is basically the mini version of valencia pure pace and power

Why do all the fans only seem to want wingers! It's central midfield where we are desperately weak. We have Giggs and Scholes, legends and as good as they come in their prime, but they will only be good for 10 full games and 15 more sub appearances.Cleverley is always injured and in my opinion is not of United caliber.Anderson who I hope will be sold to anyone offering 7 million or more. Fletcher, whose illness may have lasting effects and isn't the most brilliant anyway. Then we have Tunnicliffe and Petrucci who probably need at least one more season. The only truly good midfielder who can put in 40 games a season is Carrick and he's 30! We need two midfielders at least, as well as the lad from Crewe.We could have two of the following, all top notch and 24 or under - M'villa 20 million, Strootman 17 million, Dembale 12 million, Martin 18 million, Fellaine 22 million. Kagawa isn't really a midfielder in the classical sense,he can play out wide or as a 2nd striker much like Hazard. Presuming we'll sell Berbatov 7 million, Anderson 8million, Park 3 million, Macheda 2 million plus the two lads who went to Leicester for 2 million that gives us 22 million and the max I can see the Glazers giving for transfers is 30 million, that gives us a kitty of 52 million. How about Kagawa 16 million, M'villa 20 million, Dembale 12 million and Powell 4 million that's 52 million. If the Glazers gave us 50 million on top of sales (can't see it, but you never know). We could go for Kagawa 16 million, M'Vila 20 million, Strootman 17 million, Powell 4 million, Izzaguarre 8 million and Ba 7 million = 72 million. I think we need a M'vila/Martinez type player more than a hazard/Rodriguez type player.
Mik

Have nt seen much of Rodriguez.not up on the portugese league.would nt mind bringing in munian.i ve seen him play quite a lot and I think he is a class act and I can see him moving more centrally as his career progresses.

28 may 2012 09:53:57
papers say our interest in strootman has cooled,has there ever been any real interest in him.looks a good aggressive player,something we are lacking in the centre,roy keane type.cant wait for the window to open.

quinner99 {Ed002's Note - Manchester United have been looking at Kevin Strootman who has previously been watched by Liverpool but I would be surprised if PSV would look to sell just yet. I would expect plenty of interest if he does become available.}

I wouldnt mind Strootman but we have to be looking at Yann M'Villa surely he is class and will be class for 10 years

28 May 2012 09:18:38
Ed, what is the news on JAVI MARTINEZ..?

I haven`t seen his name on this site these days..
Is he staying Athletic Bilbao.?

Also couple of days before people were so sure Gaitan is almost a done deal with united., he is not even mentioned anywhere.

MD_11 {Ed002's Note - Manchester City are probably looking to replace Nigel De Jong in the summer and Javi Garcia and Javi Martinez were the two players they are looking at. I was told a while back that Inter Milan may make a bid for Javi if they decide not to take Juraj Kucka from co-owners Genoa. I am not convinced that Bilboa will want to sell the player any time soon, and if they do they will want 40M euro with Barcelona and Real Madrid being possible destinations. Garcia has signed a new deal at Benfica so I imagine Martinez will become a serious target for Manchester City who may also face interest from Manchester United.

Manchester United and Barcelona both showed interest in Gaitan but Inter PSG or Napoli may be the first to eventually put an offer on the table for Gaitan. My understanding is that Manchester United and PSG did speak with Benfica in January but no bid was made. I understand that it remains the case that no firm bid has been made but Benfica are aware of sustained interest and are aware that Inter Milan are now looking at the player. Asking price is and will continue to be an issue. If Manchester United can agree a price I am told that the player would welcome the move.}

Thanx for the info. Ed002

MD_11

28 May 2012 07:11:23
Rumours going around that Ben Amos to be sold to Peterborough for around 400k
has anyone else heard this rumour? any truth in this rumour?

It may well be true that Amos is available. I understand he wants first team football and Johnstone has shown he is ready to step up so why not cash in on Amos. I think he will fetch upwards of £1m mind.

Sydney!

28 May 2012 00:35:38
Hazard would be deluded to sign for Man utd over chelsea or Man city. Were talking about the current European and English champions

But more importantly the fact that Utd have Nani, Valencia, Young etc will deffo influence Hazard to choose chelsea and get first team football. Lets get real people. Hazard clearly did say first team football is crucial and if he didn't get seduced by chelsea last week im sure he would have been in manchester by now. He didn't say once that he will choose a team that has great history. After all he could come and sit on the bench and enjoy the history. I doubt he would want that.


Its funny how so many Utd fans have dismissed Nani and Young as worthless because they feel Hazard is here. Quite funny because the same fans will go onto salute the same players they have dismissed.

City won the title by goal difference when we had a season plagued by injury so I'd hardly call them worthy champions and Chelsea where second best against barca in both legs and also second best in the final so I'd call them lucky champions. We all know united don't win the title every year and we also know united always bounce back without fail. Has for hazard getting playing time, from what I've heard he wants to play just behind the strikers wich would suit us fine

What in the name of hell do Valencia, Nani, and Young have to do with it, he wants to be used as a second striker. Don't forget where Chelsea finished in the league this year, they might have won the champions league but be under no illusions, they are not the best team in Europe. They won that title by playing some of the most negative football I've ever seen. Added to the fact they don't have a manager for more than 5 minutes, I think United are by far the best option. Go back to the Citeh yeah!

Do you really think Fergie would spen 32 million on a player and play him in the odd game here and there?
Of course he's gonna get regular first team footbal at United. If we do get Hazard who's to say that Nani will even be at United next year??
Nobody knows what's going on...everyone is guessing, only Fergie knows what who wants and who he wants to get rid of next year.

Simmo

Do you think fergie would spend 32mil and lea e him on bench....ha??

Berbatov, Anderson, Valencia are all proven examples.

Anyhow i'll comment back near the end of this week and will see where he goes.

As for chelsea winning the champions league?? Well it doesnt matter how you win it unless you win it. Don't hate.

'Hazard would be deluded to sign for Man utd over chelsea or Man city'
Had to read that line a couple of times.
Who are these people?

Haha yeah right. He wants to play in the middle as the number 10, not on the wing although occasionally he could be played there if needs be. We need a number 10 besides Rooney so then we have a proven goal threat leading the attacking rather than having to drop deep, tire himself out to make up for the lack of creativity we have going through the middle.

Ozwald

Here we go city win title first time in 44 yrs Chelsea win e cup first time ever hazard deluded well let me just say Utd got more titles than anyone overall more prem titles just ask giggsy city win title in last minute of added on time Chelsea won e cup after being battered for 120 mins if the didn't win they would not be in champions league and u think hazard is deluded if he comes for football reasons and not money he would sign for utd time will tell diehard74

Ohh im sorry...was Berbatov on the bench in his first three seasons??
I think you will find he played 43 games in his first season followed by 43 games in his second season followed by 42 games in his third season. He has only been a bit part player this season so get your facts in order.
Anderson doesn't play because he's constantly injured so that blows your theory out of the window doesn't it.
Valencia, i don't even know what you mean....when he's fit he plays. You obviously haven't been watching Man United for the past four seasons have you?

Simmo

Nobody realise hazard likes to play upfront just off the striker! in that case he wud be perfect for united, we will have welbs, hernandez rooney hazard as a attacking 4 just like fergie loves

Lets be honest his prefered role is CAM which city have got handfuls of and i think Chelsea are bidding because they dont know who they want, what they want and who they are and a controlled by a popus rich feather head in the croud lol. The overall structure of man united is clearly better than the rest. hazard said he wants the number 10 role i hope its at united for his sake. deluded u said clearly doesnt have a clu

27 May 2012 22:23:20
The Nick Powell rumours seemed to have died down now , But I was just wondering Ed is there any sustained confirmed interest from United and if so when will a deal be likely to be met , Looks a class young player.

Jasper